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US Vice-President Mike Pence has his work cut out for him during his first Australian visit this weekend, with a new poll showing 60 per cent of voters have a negative view of Donald Trump.

SMH APRIL 21 2017


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Well I guess those 60% will be miserable for the next 4 years

Maybe they should have voted
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

US Vice-President Mike Pence has his work cut out for him during his first Australian visit this weekend, with a new poll showing 60 per cent of voters have a negative view of Donald Trump.

SMH APRIL 21 2017


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An actual poll? What weight should I put on that compared to someone here saying someone on Q&A said something? I know- I will use the Ray Hadley scientific method to work it out.Geek
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And dont forget that the only poll that counts is the one on election day, and that polls are fake news unless they support your view
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You should know that better than most. Polling has let the side down on a regular basis of late.
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Dr E seems to be a polling neophyteLOL
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

US Vice-President Mike Pence has his work cut out for him during his first Australian visit this weekend, with a new poll showing 60 per cent of voters have a negative view of Donald Trump.

SMH APRIL 21 2017


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An actual poll? What weight should I put on that compared to someone here saying someone on Q&A said something? I know- I will use the Ray Hadley scientific method to work it out.Geek

If you bunch of bed wetters prefer to get your Fake News delivered by a left wing newspaper that is going out of business because of their own admission that they are biased in their reporting, who obtain their data from the "Trump-deranged left-leaning think-tank" the Australia Institute (and they have probably lied about the results anyway) ... rather than an actual RESEARCHER ... then it says little more about you than to confirm the sad vacuum that you live in!Wink

Research Director of Ipsos Mind and Mood Report Laura Demasi stated that "... the things that Trump stands for, are popular, and resonate with most Australians ... 60-70% of Australians ...", on your own program, Q&A - didn't watch it this week PT? ... I find that hard to believe!LOL

... must say, Tanya Plebiscite and the Socialist stooge from ANU almost had a "TDS" relapse when their lies were shut down and they had to try to deal with the facts, !EmbarrassedCry

Come on guys, escape from your cocoons, The Socialist destruction of our country will fail, Australia is with Trump, Turnbull is with Trump, and Australia is with Turnbull ... Big smileThumbs Up
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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   Puzzling ...         I live in the Moreton Bay area of Brisbane and our Mr Peter  Dutton was struggling prior to the election.       It was close and that was the general opinion of the wide range of people I communicate with .    They got it right by suggesting Dutton would fall in .
       They got Trump right overwhelmingly and many backed him at the odds.  ( I was  wrong )
       The majority Got Brexit correct .     ( not me )
 
    Surprise , surprise .      The huge majority here say Gay marriage will fail if it goes to the people .
 
  Around here Trump is really popular.    I won't have it that less than 70% support him .
      











































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$8 Le Pen maxie..... #geton

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Le Pen is no hope ... Paris will be just like Beirut in a couple of years time ... will you be visiting PT?
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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If they do a nice falafel roll with hommus and tahini there I might Big smile
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

If they do a nice falafel roll with hommus and tahini there I might Big smile


Interesting that you go straight to the only benefit of multiculturalism
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I take back everything .... BAKLAVA!!!HeartHug
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Naaaaaa.   Good ole fish and chups for me  Thumbs Up
animals before people.
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BULLgelati BILL TRYING TO WIN BACK THE BASE FROM PAULINE!!! 

WHITE AUSTRALIA RULES OK!!!Thumbs Up

"ONE NATION" ... "AUSTRALIA FIRST" ... meh, what's the difference?
 

Gotta be happy with that all you Snowflakes!!!LOL

Bill Shorten under fire over ‘white Labor’ campaign ad


ANTHONY Albanese has slammed the new Labor Party white ‘Australia First’ ad starring Bill Shorten, after it sparked social media backlash for being racist.

The Labor Party has come under fire from human rights groups for its latest “Australia First” campaign which features almost all white Australians and calls on businesses to “employ Australians first”.


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/bill-shorten-under-fire-over-white-labor-campagin-ad/news-story/9daa5445d28218a6e30107a32687e9e3

In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Why does Bill Shorten always have a couple of noddies standing behind him at news conferences? They seem to nod occasionally at random points and whisper to themselves "good one Bill ... 7/10 ... silent but deadly". Are they official fart sniffers?
Reminds me of that South Park episode about a smug cloud.
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Originally posted by ThreeBears ThreeBears wrote:


Why does Bill Shorten always have a couple of noddies standing behind him at news conferences? They seem to nod occasionally at random points and whisper to themselves "good one Bill ... 7/10 ... silent but deadly". Are they official fart sniffers?
Reminds me of that South Park episode about a smug cloud.



You only notice it with Shorten
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Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Originally posted by ThreeBears ThreeBears wrote:


Why does Bill Shorten always have a couple of noddies standing behind him at news conferences? They seem to nod occasionally at random points and whisper to themselves "good one Bill ... 7/10 ... silent but deadly". Are they official fart sniffers?
Reminds me of that South Park episode about a smug cloud.



You only notice it with Shorten


how true
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Migrant crisis: German NGO boat that 'contacted people traffickers' seizedLondon: Tensions are rising in the southern Mediterranean's migrant crisis, after Italian coastguards seized a German aid group's boat suspected of aiding illegal immigration.

But refugee advocates have in return accused Italy of being complicit in human rights abuses, by sending navy vessels into Libyan waters to turn back migrant boats.Refugee advocates deny accusations that non-government organisations have formed a "taxi service" for migrants fleeing Libya, saying instead they are providing a vital search-and-rescue service that is saving thousands of lives.

Italian coastguards confiscated the boat, named Iuventa and operated by activist collective Jugend Rettet​, on the island of Lampedusa after receiving evidence that its crew were in communication with people smugglers.

"The evidence is serious," Ambrogio Cartosio, chief prosecutor in the western Sicilian city of Trapani, said.

"We have evidence of encounters between traffickers, who escorted illegal immigrants to the Iuventa, and members of the boat's crew."He said nobody had been charged but his investigation was continuing. He also said it would be a "fantasy" to say there was a coordinated plan between the NGOs and the Libyan traffickers.Jugend Rettet did not respond to a request for an interview from Fairfax MediaOn Twitter on Thursday they said their crew were interviewed by officials "as part of the standard procedure" and they had received no information about an investigation.

"Our legal teams are working hard to examine the legal basis of the confiscation of the ship," they said. They watched their ship's forced departure from Lampedusa "with heavy hearts" because the ship was "dearly needed", they said.

Last month, Italy, with the backing of the European Union, imposed a code of conduct for NGOs in the Mediterranean.

Jugend Rettet said they had been negotiating with Rome over the code, but on Tuesday had decided not to sign it until it was rewritten.

"Our top priority is to save people in distress but this is not prioritised [in] this code of conduct [which] would legally put us in an uncertain position," they said in a statement on Facebook.

In May, Cartosio told a parliamentary committee in Rome that he had become suspicious of NGOs after noticing some rescue crews seemed to know in advance where to find migrant boats, and were making rescues without informing the Italian coastguard.

Carmelo Zuccaro the chief prosecutor of the Sicilian port of Catania, has claimed he had evidence of phone calls between people smugglers and aid groups, but in May admitted he was expressing only a "hypothesis" and had no proof that could be used in court.

A fleet of around a dozen boats crewed by humanitarian groups are working on the Mediterranean to perform rescues.

Around 85,000 migrants arrived in Italy by boat in the first six months of 2017, 21 per cent more than in the same period in 2016.

More than 2200 people have died attempting the crossing this year, according to the International Organisation for Migration.

Last year, rescues in the Mediterranean were closer to Italy, but now they were happening much closer to the border between Libyan and international waters, prompting accusations the NGOs are encouraging people smugglers.

Smugglers were "including the presence of NGO boats in their business model", a European official familiar with the situation told Fairfax Media last month.

Izza Leghtas, a senior advocate for Refugees International, said search and rescue should not be made into a political issue.

NGOs performed more than a third of the rescues in the area in the first part of 2017, Leghtas said.

"They are filling a huge gap… if they weren't doing that work then we would be talking probably about thousands more people drowning."

"They are proactive, they go to the areas where they know people are at risk in international waters," she said, while official boats were more focused on border control. "We are talking about life and death situations and that needs to be the priority."

Part of the problem was the pressure Italy was coming under because other European countries, including Italy's closest neighbours, had not stepped up to take a share of the migrants and refugees arriving from Africa.

The Italians had been traumatised by the number of deaths at sea and felt they had been left alone to handle it, Leghtas said.

She rejected the claim that NGOs were encouraging migrants to take to the sea.

"The conditions in Libya are so horrific, it's a question of a push factor not a pull factor," she said. "People get out of Libya because it's unbearable, because people are killed and tortured and sexually abused.

"To focus on the rescue operations and ignore the fact they are fleeing for their lives [is wrong]… people are going to go regardless [of the NGO boats]."

She said her group was deeply concerned by the Italian government's plan to send its vessels into Libyan territorial waters to help the Libyan coastguard intercept migrant and refugee boats.

"It is no secret that migrants and refugees who are intercepted and returned by the Libyan coast guard face horrific abuses in Libya's migrant detention centers," said Leghtas. "By engaging in these operations, the Italian government would be knowingly complicit in these abuses."

Originally published on smh.com.au as 'Migrant crisis: German NGO boat that 'contacted people traffickers' seized'.
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Intervention by Europeans in Libya has left a right old mess that people naturally want to flee from. If the public can't see the connection, they are either dumb or don't care, they should blame their own politicians for creating the problem. Ditto just about all the refugee problems from that part of the world. Outsiders interfering where and when they should not.
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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Intervention by Europeans in Libya has left a right old mess that people naturally want to flee from. If the public can't see the connection, they are either dumb or don't care, they should blame their own politicians for creating the problem. Ditto just about all the refugee problems from that part of the world. Outsiders interfering where and when they should not.

But the people yapping about refugees and chancers fleeing after the West helps to remove a brutal dicator are the same people who yap about the West not helping to remove a brutal dictator, e.g. Syria: Obama.
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Removing dictators "on the cheap" only leaves a power vacuum filled by elements less friendly to the population, typically. Unless you are prepared to occupy the country, at huge cost, keep out. Regime change is not nation building, the latter is vastly more difficult. It is no good expressing surprise and indignation that radical extremists take over, and refugees spill out. Wherever the political and social order collapses, whether from outside or inside influences, and regardless of what kind of society, the expected result is radicals filling the newly created void. It has ever been thus, unless the outside force responsible takes over, and keeps law and order, for a protracted period.
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I wonder the population as a whole will think of turnbulls phone call revelation with trump that his govt did indeed have a policy to bring in syrian christians.
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"CRISIS WHAT CRISIS!?"Confused

Clever marketing by "Michael Coates" and his advisers to release his book;

MANUS DAYS - The Untold Story of Manus Island

on 24th January 2018 ... the perfect Australia Day gift!Thumbs Up

Seems all was not as it was purported to be by the media, the Greens, Case Managers, Australian Refugee Advocates and the Human Rights Activists, and that it was actually all staged, based on the explosive new reveal all book by the former Manus Island "Safety and Security" Officer and member of the Emergency Response Team.

Excellent interview here;

http://www.connorcourtpublishing.com.au/MANUS-DAYS--The-Untold-Story-of-Manus-Island_p_134.html
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