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Originally posted by Demolay Demolay wrote:

Russia is building bases in Syria, increasing their arms supplies, providing more technical support to the Assad regime, while the US and their idiot allies(Abbott) are arming the opposition and soon bombing within Syria, both with the pretext of fighting ISIL who is filling the vacuum this civil war/proxy superpower war is creating, but it is all about religion? Confused 


Sorry but who the refugees running from..??

isn't it ISIS they are fleeing from..??
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Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

Originally posted by Demolay Demolay wrote:

Russia is building bases in Syria, increasing their arms supplies, providing more technical support to the Assad regime, while the US and their idiot allies(Abbott) are arming the opposition and soon bombing within Syria, both with the pretext of fighting ISIL who is filling the vacuum this civil war/proxy superpower war is creating, but it is all about religion? Confused 


Sorry but who the refugees running from..??

isn't it ISIS they are fleeing from..??

According to Tony Abbott, the only problem there is ISIL, but that is for his political purpose. The civil war started in 2011, ISIL only entered the conversation in 2013. They are taking advantage of the situation there, not creating it. The civil war has killed an estimated 210,000 and probably more. Read this article.....



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Abbott certainly is a scoundrel with his "they're coming to get us all" routine.
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Islam, in its present Pre- Enlightenment condition, is inherently and by definition incapable of recognising the separation of church and state and is thus incompatible with secular democracy.
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Abbott getting more embarrassing by the minute...


 and I really feel for you cafe-sitting latte-sippers, whose lifestyle is about to end...

 try eating nothing for days, walking in 37 degree heat, to escape from possible death...

 house prices through the roof in Australia...wealthy investors feathering already opulent nests...

 then begrudge a better than miserable life to others...

 inhuman...

 

 

 
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Islam, in its present Pre- Enlightenment condition, is inherently and by definition incapable of recognising the separation of church and state and is thus incompatible with secular democracy.


 I agree, but one must ask the question why would one devout Muslim want to live under a secular regime..?


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The refugees from that region we should be taking are not Muslims.
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Someone wants Syrian Real Estate
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Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Islam, in its present Pre- Enlightenment condition, is inherently and by definition incapable of recognising the separation of church and state and is thus incompatible with secular democracy.


 I agree, but one must ask the question why would one devout Muslim want to live under a secular regime..?



You'd wonder wouldn't you but many of them don't see any problem migrating to a secular democracy then complaining about most things secular and democratic.
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Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

Someone wants Syrian Real Estate


for what..??


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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Islam, in its present Pre- Enlightenment condition, is inherently and by definition incapable of recognising the separation of church and state and is thus incompatible with secular democracy.


 I agree, but one must ask the question why would one devout Muslim want to live under a secular regime..?



You'd wonder wouldn't you but many of them don't see any problem migrating to a secular democracy then complaining about most things secular and democratic.


and that right there is what s h i tz most people off, the stupid thing for me is that the religion calls for complete faith, no where does it say it's okay to mingle and party on down with the Christians, Hindi's jews and atheists, yet most will willingly break their own religious rules that so they can live under secular roof, but quietly complain that it's not right, so not are they only being unfaithful to their religion, but they are hypocrites to boot.



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I can imagine the reception I'm going to get when I move to Saudi Arabia then tell them I don't respect their laws and their religion is a crock.
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

The refugees from that region we should be taking are not Muslims.


They can go to Germany and Turkey
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Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

The refugees from that region we should be taking are not Muslims.


They can go to Germany and Turkey


funny that they don't want to settle in Turkey, and funny that when refugees were coming here via the boats why did they not stop in Indonesia, there's no war going on there either..??


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Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

Someone wants Syrian Real Estate


for what..??




land is a resource. someone is expanding their country.
I will give you a hint. Its not Palestine.
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Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

Someone wants Syrian Real Estate


for what..??




land is a resource. someone is expanding their country.
I will give you a hint. Its not Palestine.


yes well we all know they are notorious for stealing land around them that's not rightly theirs, but again that all goes back to religion and the holy land blah blah bleh bleh...


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A more global geopolitical view might offer a clearer perspective of what is going on there
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Originally posted by Demolay Demolay wrote:

A more global geopolitical view might offer a clearer perspective of what is going on there


might..??

I seriously doubt it, religious conflict has been the mainstay in that region since the imaginary son of God rose from his imaginary death bed..Confused
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

I can imagine the reception I'm going to get when I move to Saudi Arabia then tell them I don't respect their laws and their religion is a crock.


I'd imagine it would result in something to do with a large knife or axe, your head,.. and a plate..??


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Its not a refugee crisis.
Its an Invasion.

Order by Chaos.

Syria is being slaughtered by Russia.

Fiddles, if you want to talk about religion, then talk about Communism.

How many Catholics in Hungary are currently murdering Syrian refugees??

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this blew my mind..






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an extra 10,000 refugees, with a massive shortage of public housing in this country, I just wonder where on earth do they think they will house these people..?? Jobs are not a problem there's plenty of work, but where on earth are people supposed to live..??


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Where will we house the 200,000 that will arrive this year under the normal immigration program?

Perhaps cut that by 10-20,000? 
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an extra 10,000 refugees, with a massive shortage of public housing in this country, I just wonder where on earth do they think they will house these people..?? Jobs are not a problem there's plenty of work, but where on earth are people supposed to live..??


Really ? I doubt too many of these people would slot into what jobs are available.
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thousands of people holding candle light vigils for the boy who drowned off Turkey...what about the thousands of other children that have died needlessly, this is getting out of hand...the father should never had put those children in such a dangerous situation as a leaking gelatity blow up raft in rough seas, where he had no chance of looking after them all properly, did the lad even have a life jacket on..??


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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

an extra 10,000 refugees, with a massive shortage of public housing in this country, I just wonder where on earth do they think they will house these people..?? Jobs are not a problem there's plenty of work, but where on earth are people supposed to live..??


Really ? I doubt too many of these people would slot into what jobs are available.


okay then so you are happy for them to go on benefits...??
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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

an extra 10,000 refugees, with a massive shortage of public housing in this country, I just wonder where on earth do they think they will house these people..?? Jobs are not a problem there's plenty of work, but where on earth are people supposed to live..??


Really ? I doubt too many of these people would slot into what jobs are available.


okay then so you are happy for them to go on benefits...??
In the short term at least they would need full assistance, including accomodation.
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