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The Melbourne Cup thru 80s to 93 |
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djebel
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Posted: 15 Nov 2018 at 12:21pm |
There seems to be a popular thought that prior to Vintage Crop winning the Cup in 1993 the Melbourne Cup was struggling.
Was this a fact or is it popular fiction ? I mean I do not recall it ever lacking for hype and anticipation.
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djebel
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The race itself was clearly holding up. Looking at those fields they were not terrible.
So what was going wrong at the time ?
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Tontonan
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It is a question of what you mean by struggling.
In economic terms the Melbourne Cup was in recession in the 1980's. In the 1980's there were no Cup day attendances over 100,000. In fact, since the war, despite rapid economic growth and steady population growth there had only been 6 Cup days that pulled 100,000 (45 years). Prior to the war there had been 11 crowds of over 100,000 since 1910 (30 years) Remember Cup day pulled its first 100,000 crowd in 1880 ! Wars and depressions made only dings in the enthusiasm to attend the Cup but in the 'Greed is Good' 1980's the Cup appeared to be losing its crowd pulling power. It was primarily a domestic event. Admittedly the likes of Sangster and Maktoum and Lloyd Williams had begun importing stayers from the North for local trainers to prepare for the Cup with some success but the race was still largely a domestic affair that relied on interstate and trans Tasman visitors to boost the crowds. It is hard to ignore the rapid rise in the carnival crowds post Vintage Crop. Cup week attendances doubled to more than 400,000 in 13 years with an ever increasing number of international visitors among the crowd. In comparitive economic terms the Melbourne Cup was running out of puff in the 1980's and the international program was like a shot of elephant juice. |
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Jamal
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And apparently some of the winners of the Cup in the 1980s such as Black Knight and What A Nuisance for example were deemed as "weak" or "average" winners.
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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djebel
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That is exactly what I was looking for Totonan, thankyou.
Jamal, most of the 80s Cups would have good spreads of weight between top and bottom. Winners may not have been top class but they were still good fields. |
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Tontonan
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These are the (38)years that the Melbourne Cup day attendance was greater than 100,000 :
1880,1881, 1883, 1888, (1910),1919,1920, 1922, 1924, 1925, 1926, 1927, 1928, 1935, 1936, 1937, 1948, 1949, 1960, 1972, 1973, 1980, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015. Note : In 1906 the VRC stopped counting the people on the flat (approximately 40,000 +). Admittance to the flat was free. Attendance figures between 1906 and the end of WW1 were somewhat unreliable. In 1910 there were 58512 ticketed and an estimated 50,000 on the flat. There may have been other years in this period that topped 100,000.
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