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Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

How do you know that disco?

Because of bods like you makes it hard, mentally hard to pursue  a given profession.

He may well be enjoying what he is now doing.

Still with his cattle and horses.

Look at the AFL players unable to cope mentally; social media vigilantism? Kills of the sports they allegedly love.



I bet his cattle are nervous, cattle prod and all.......fastest cattle this side of the Grampians.
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The AFP have gelati load on him, that’s why. Do you honestly think the RV gave Smerdon life and Weir will only get 4years? You are Censored delusional.

Edited by Gay3 - 04 Jul 2019 at 4:01pm
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Those who dont hold grudges will be making money.

Weirs man?LOL
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I don't know much about Smith (see below) but I don't reckon I'd be game to call him a puppet to his face

Hey Jamal,
Do you have any comments about Smith as a trainer? I'd be interested as you know WA racing and am sure others would appreciate it too... TIA. Ponies
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Come in Red, you know WA Racing better than anyone, tell us your thoughts, most interested.
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Yes, all knowledge welcome!
(Thanks for the call-out bonjour )
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Straight arrow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 11:53am
He’s just another very very good horseman . Can’t see a problem other then the rules of vic racing/ Aussie racing is they will license unlimited numbers of participants all after the one pie. Not good for keeping the industry striaight
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How is your strike rate in training Straight arrow?

heres the most informative link about WA racing. Have a look. Find out for yourselves.

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Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

How is your strike rate in training Straight arrow?

heres the most informative link about WA racing. Have a look. Find out for yourselves.



Slightly informative Isaac however it doesn’t list all trainers previous indiscretions.
What did you use arsenic for when training?
And as such, the AFL are on track to go broke.
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Actually Isaac, I reckon it may have something to do with global warming, or something.
For some reason horses all round Oz took a liking to treated posts at about the same time.
Miraculous how these things always seem to happen together isn’t it?
And as such, the AFL are on track to go broke.
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I read an article from the stewards about the arsenic cases and their opinion was that testing could only recently detect it at the levels being seen lately.
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The desperation from some of you... holy moly.
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Originally posted by Softy Softy wrote:


What did you use arsenic for when training?


I & doubtless many others use Jurocyl, top syuff Smile

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote adolphus twirk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 5:01pm
And eventually their hair drops out if they have too much arsenic built up in the body.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Softy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 5:05pm
That may be so Gay but I think he stated he didn’t use that product.
Anyway I just found it surprising the number of trainers with treated pine posts that didn’t return positives.
And as such, the AFL are on track to go broke.
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Never used those products. Didnt have to.
Trained from paddocks, bush work, didnt go to the track.
My "arsenic"? plenty of hay.
Thought fi you had to use that stuff was like chasing tails.
Feel the hooves for warmth; if cool on the right track.
Had plenty of winners, metro and provincial.
Asked a young women giving a "calming" paste to a horse before she floated it if she thought it worked and she said no......
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Jorocyl is banned now, i think.
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Issac I do not have a strike rate! What am I supposed to be looking at in that link you sent?
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It will help you sort fact from fiction.
You can line your beliefs up with the facts of an industry site.
have a read, you might learn something.
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Originally posted by Softy Softy wrote:

That may be so Gay but I think he stated he didn’t use that product.
Anyway I just found it surprising the number of trainers with treated pine posts that didn’t return positives.

Where does it say " the number of trainers with treated pine posts that didn’t return positives.[/QUOTE]"


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Most with pine posts would integrate electric fencing if they had 1/2 brain, knowing how palatable most horses find them & the expense of replacement not to mention removing the temptation to windsuck.
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And the other half with brains would avoid using pine logs altogether, especially if you train racehorses as testing machines are now VERY sensitive for arsenic, amongst other substances.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Softy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jul 2019 at 1:11pm
That is true Gay3, or at the very least painting something unpalatable on said fences, which I had to do a bit as a child.
Maybe it is just the lazy trainers who got done for arsenic
And as such, the AFL are on track to go broke.
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Paint something unpalatable?LOL

You obviously dont know horses.


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or softy you have deep pockets.
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If a horse wants to eat something, it will get eaten.
A good electric fence can control the urge though.
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An electric fence regularly testing at 6.5 - 7.5 will stop any horse from even venturing near as a pulse of 1 will show at a metre away, even further if using the newer copper wires.
Hardwood is near impossible to source these days so unless you're a millionaire, pine is the most cost effective & available timber.
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Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

Paint something unpalatable?LOL

You obviously dont know horses.




And you obviously don’t know everything.
And as such, the AFL are on track to go broke.
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LOLLOL softy.
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