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This one will be interesting for the future.


Unnamed
last service date 08/10/2014  
Typhon (AUS)
Brown 2007
God's Own
Bay 2002
Redoute's Choice
Bay 1996
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Razyana
1977
1981
7-a
2-d
Shantha's Choice
Bay 1992
Canny Lad
Dancing Show
1987
1983
14>
8-f
Angel in Disguise
Brown 1994
Sky Chase
Brown 1984
Star Way
Vice Reine
1977
1977
6-e
3-e
Ziegfield Lass
Bay or brown 1980
Showdown
Salote
1961
1971
6-b
5-d
Scandinavia
Chestnut 1994
Snippets
Bay 1984
Lunchtime
Chestnut 1970
Silly Season
Great Occasion
1962
1965
1-g
7-f
Easy Date
Bay 1977
Grand Chaudiere
Scampering
1968
1970
19-b
20-a
Song of Norway
Grey 1982
Vain
Chestnut 1966
Wilkes
Elated
1952
1957
13-c
A10
Love Song
Grey 1976
Warpath
Folk Song
1969
1968
21-a
1-p
Myshinycash (AUS)
Brown 2004
Dash for Cash
Grey 1998
Secret Savings
Bay 1991
Seeking the Gold
Bay 1985
Mr Prospector
Con Game
1970
1974
13-c
5-c
Jurisdictional
Chestnut 1986
Damascus
Resolver
1964
1974
8-h
5-f
Gulistan
Grey 1991
Rubiton
Brown 1983
Century
Ruby
1969
1977
20>
4-l
Gulet
Grey 1985
Kalaglow
Packet
1978
1972
2-i
11-d
Shiny Mai
Brown 1998
Keltrice
Bay 1990
Kenmare
Grey 1975
Kalamoun
Belle of Ireland
1970
1964
9-c
1-m
Vain Display
Chestnut 1981
Vain
Toltrice
1966
1969
A10
43>
Ellymai
Brown 1992
Rancho Ruler
Brown 1984
Rancher
No No Nanette
1979
1972
18>
2-g
Song of Kingston
Grey 1983
Bletchingly
Love Song
1970
1976
7-a
1-p
 Ancestor duplications:Vain4f x 5f Love Song4f x 5f


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I have a small share in this Love Conquers All yearling from the BC family.

LOVE CONQUERS ALL (AUS)
B. 2006
GW 8 wins
f:46 r:15 w:4
Mossman
B. 1995
GW 4 wins
f:654 r:560 w:396 SW:33
Success Express
B. 1985
GW 4 wins
f:708 r:629 w:460 SW:32
Hold Your PeaceSpeak JohnPrince John14
Nuit de Folies1
Blue MoonEight Thirty11
Blue Grail12
Au PrintempsDancing ChampNijinsky8
Mrs. Peterkin4
LorgnetteHigh Hat2
Mlle. Lorette17
Lichen Lady
Ch. 1982
Wnr 2 wins
f:6 r:6 w:4 SW:2
Twig MossLuthierKlairon1
Flute Enchantee14
Top TwigHigh Perch10
Kimpton Wood1
Off ShoreGrundyGreat Nephew14
Word From Lundy8
No RelationKlairon1
Margaret Ann9
She's a Meanie
Br. 1995
GW 7 wins
f:7 r:6 w:5 SW:2
Prince Salieri
Ch. 1986
GW 10 wins
f:105 r:87 w:46 SW:3
SalieriAccipiterDamascus8
Kingsland9
Hogan's SisterSpeak John1
Liz. Piet2
Caitie's KingdomPlanet KingdomStar Kingdom1
Lilting2
Kiss Me CaitShowdown6
Arctic Belle13
Shekanwyn
Br. 1987
Wnr 2 wins
f:11 r:10 w:8 SW:1
Musical PhantasyShamPretense3
Sequoia9
Allie's SerenadeRoyal Serenade10
Allie's Pal8
Brauner FlightBraunerNever Bend19
Beesandbirds2
HeirshipBally Royal14
Romantic CrownC4
BERGMAN (AUS)
Gr. 2002
Pld
f:3 r:1 w:1
Anabaa
B. 1992
GW 8 wins
f:1345 r:1153 w:827 SW:88
Danzig
B. 1977
Wnr 3 wins
f:1075 r:837 w:658 SW:198
Northern DancerNearcticNearco4
Lady Angela14
NatalmaNative Dancer5
Almahmoud2
Pas de NomAdmiral's VoyageCrafty Admiral8
Olympia Lou4
PetitionerPetition16
Steady Aim7
Balbonella
B. or Br. 1984
GW 9 wins
f:5 r:4 w:4 SW:4
Gay MeceneVaguely NobleVienna14
Noble Lassie1
Gay MissileSir Gaylord2
Missy Baba3
BamieresRivermanNever Bend19
River Lady10
BergamasqueKashmir9
Bergame1
Midnight Sun
Gr. 1995
SW 4 wins
f:10 r:8 w:5
Western Symphony
B. 1981
GW 3 wins
f:772 r:640 w:391 SW:27
NijinskyNorthern DancerNearctic14
Natalma2
Flaming PageBull Page4
Flaring Top8
MillicentCornish PrinceBold Ruler8
Teleran1
Milan MillPrincequillo1
Virginia Water22
Song Of Norway
Gr. 1982
NR
f:12 r:11 w:11 SW:4
VainWilkesCourt Martial1
Sans Tares13
ElatedOrgoglio23
RarcambaA10
Love SongWarpathSovereign Path4
Ardneasken21
Folk SongTudor Melody1
Lynsted1
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Good luck.

Is is going to be called Smuffering ?


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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Good luck.

Is is going to be called Smuffering ?
Don't think so.  Smile

I've got a couple of Hopfgarten owners involved though.
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Epic Moment makes his debut at Caulfield tomorrow for Mick Price. 

EPIC MOMENT (AUS)Bay colt 2013 
Snitzel
Bay 2002
Redoute's Choice
Bay 1996
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Shantha's Choice
Bay 1992
Canny Lad
Brown 1987
Bletchingly
Jesmond Lass
1970
1975
7-a
14>
Dancing Show
Bay 1983
Nijinsky
Show Lady
1967
1976
8-f
8-f
Snippets' Lass
Bay 1993
Snippets
Bay 1984
Lunchtime
Chestnut 1970
Silly Season
Great Occasion
1962
1965
1-g
7-f
Easy Date
Bay 1977
Grand Chaudiere
Scampering
1968
1970
19-b
20-a
Snow Finch
Bay 1984
Storm Bird
Bay 1978
Northern Dancer
South Ocean
1961
1967
2-d
4-j
A Realgirl
Bay 1976
In Reality
Secret Verdict
1964
1966
21-a
2-c
Song of the Sun
Grey 2000
Desert Sun
Bay 1988
Green Desert
Bay 1983
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Foreign Courier
Bay 1979
Sir Ivor
Courtly Dee
1965
1968
8-g
A4
Solar
Chestnut 1973
Hotfoot
Brown 1966
Firestreak
Pitter Patter
1956
1953
2-e
1-w
L'Anguissola
Bay 1967
Soderini
Posh
1961
1958
5-e
10-b
Song of Norway
Grey 1982
Vain
Chestnut 1966
Wilkes
Chestnut 1952
Court Martial
Sans Tares
1942
1939
1-p
13-c
Elated
Bay 1957
Orgoglio
Rarcamba
1949
1946
23-a
A10
Love Song
Grey 1976
Warpath
Grey 1969
Sovereign Path
Ardneasken
1956
1964
4-l
21-a
Folk Song
Bay 1968
Tudor Melody
Lynsted
1956
1960
1-n
1-p
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer5m,5m x 5m Danzig4m x 4m


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2005 - Dreamy - Maiden winner from 13 starts. [Bel Esprit]
               2012 - Unrealistic - Maiden winner from 8 starts. [Lonhro]
2006 - Belleluia - Maiden winner from 2 starts. [Bel Esprit]
               2011 - Fiscal Stimulus - Maiden from 2 starts [Bushranger]
               2012 - Scandimania - BM 64 winner from 6 starts [Magnus]
               2013 - Sweet Caviar - Placed from 2 starts [Wanted]
2007 - Unnamed God's Own
2008 - Outshine Me - Maiden winner from 11 starts. [E&E]
2011 - Unnamed Chosior


Immediate family disappointing to say the least, but for some reason Belleluia has been sent to Fastnet two years in a row, after 3 years of average to terrible stallions.


Epic moment sold for 675k to Sun Bloodstock and Eliza Park, who i thought were one and the same?

Crazy price considering the performance of the immediate family.
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Epic Moment makes his debut at Caulfield tomorrow for Mick Price. 

EPIC MOMENT (AUS)Bay colt 2013 
Snitzel
Bay 2002
Redoute's Choice
Bay 1996
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Shantha's Choice
Bay 1992
Canny Lad
Brown 1987
Bletchingly
Jesmond Lass
1970
1975
7-a
14>
Dancing Show
Bay 1983
Nijinsky
Show Lady
1967
1976
8-f
8-f
Snippets' Lass
Bay 1993
Snippets
Bay 1984
Lunchtime
Chestnut 1970
Silly Season
Great Occasion
1962
1965
1-g
7-f
Easy Date
Bay 1977
Grand Chaudiere
Scampering
1968
1970
19-b
20-a
Snow Finch
Bay 1984
Storm Bird
Bay 1978
Northern Dancer
South Ocean
1961
1967
2-d
4-j
A Realgirl
Bay 1976
In Reality
Secret Verdict
1964
1966
21-a
2-c
Song of the Sun
Grey 2000
Desert Sun
Bay 1988
Green Desert
Bay 1983
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Foreign Courier
Bay 1979
Sir Ivor
Courtly Dee
1965
1968
8-g
A4
Solar
Chestnut 1973
Hotfoot
Brown 1966
Firestreak
Pitter Patter
1956
1953
2-e
1-w
L'Anguissola
Bay 1967
Soderini
Posh
1961
1958
5-e
10-b
Song of Norway
Grey 1982
Vain
Chestnut 1966
Wilkes
Chestnut 1952
Court Martial
Sans Tares
1942
1939
1-p
13-c
Elated
Bay 1957
Orgoglio
Rarcamba
1949
1946
23-a
A10
Love Song
Grey 1976
Warpath
Grey 1969
Sovereign Path
Ardneasken
1956
1964
4-l
21-a
Folk Song
Bay 1968
Tudor Melody
Lynsted
1956
1960
1-n
1-p
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer5m,5m x 5m Danzig4m x 4m
 
Fair boom on him too. Moody loved him.
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Lionhearted [Fastnet Rock - Scandinavia] runs in races 5 at Caulfield tomorrow.

Already had 4 starts including:

0.8l 2nd in the Group 2 Skyline
1.6l 4th in the Group 2 Pago Pago

Based on those runs would have to be one of the leading chances, and if he wins tomorrow, the race being listed pretty much guarantees him staying an entire.
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

This one will be interesting for the future.


Unnamed
last service date 08/10/2014  
Typhon (AUS)
Brown 2007
God's Own
Bay 2002
Redoute's Choice
Bay 1996
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Razyana
1977
1981
7-a
2-d
Shantha's Choice
Bay 1992
Canny Lad
Dancing Show
1987
1983
14>
8-f
Angel in Disguise
Brown 1994
Sky Chase
Brown 1984
Star Way
Vice Reine
1977
1977
6-e
3-e
Ziegfield Lass
Bay or brown 1980
Showdown
Salote
1961
1971
6-b
5-d
Scandinavia
Chestnut 1994
Snippets
Bay 1984
Lunchtime
Chestnut 1970
Silly Season
Great Occasion
1962
1965
1-g
7-f
Easy Date
Bay 1977
Grand Chaudiere
Scampering
1968
1970
19-b
20-a
Song of Norway
Grey 1982
Vain
Chestnut 1966
Wilkes
Elated
1952
1957
13-c
A10
Love Song
Grey 1976
Warpath
Folk Song
1969
1968
21-a
1-p
Myshinycash (AUS)
Brown 2004
Dash for Cash
Grey 1998
Secret Savings
Bay 1991
Seeking the Gold
Bay 1985
Mr Prospector
Con Game
1970
1974
13-c
5-c
Jurisdictional
Chestnut 1986
Damascus
Resolver
1964
1974
8-h
5-f
Gulistan
Grey 1991
Rubiton
Brown 1983
Century
Ruby
1969
1977
20>
4-l
Gulet
Grey 1985
Kalaglow
Packet
1978
1972
2-i
11-d
Shiny Mai
Brown 1998
Keltrice
Bay 1990
Kenmare
Grey 1975
Kalamoun
Belle of Ireland
1970
1964
9-c
1-m
Vain Display
Chestnut 1981
Vain
Toltrice
1966
1969
A10
43>
Ellymai
Brown 1992
Rancho Ruler
Brown 1984
Rancher
No No Nanette
1979
1972
18>
2-g
Song of Kingston
Grey 1983
Bletchingly
Love Song
1970
1976
7-a
1-p
 Ancestor duplications:Vain4f x 5f Love Song4f x 5f
Will have to see how this one goes. I yearling prepped Shiny Mai.
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Missed the win of Epic Moment at Cranbourne.
 
2YO quinella taking on their elders. The oldsters must be very very poor horses.




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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Scarlet Magnolia listed as retired.

She is also listed on the Studbook as having missed to Moshe. 





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Moshe (AUS)
Bay or brown 2007
Bel Esprit
Bay 1999
Royal Academy
Bay 1987
Nijinsky
Bay 1967
Northern Dancer
Flaming Page
1961
1959
2-d
8-f
Crimson Saint
Chestnut 1969
Crimson Satan
Bolero Rose
1959
1958
26>
8-c
Bespoken
Brown 1990
Vain
Chestnut 1966
Wilkes
Elated
1952
1957
13-c
A10
Vin d'Amour
Bay 1981
Adios
Gliteren
1970
1969
6-f
34>
Helsinge
Bay 2001
Desert Sun
Bay 1988
Green Desert
Bay 1983
Danzig
Foreign Courier
1977
1979
7-a
A4
Solar
Chestnut 1973
Hotfoot
L'Anguissola
1966
1967
1-w
10-b
Scandinavia
Chestnut 1994
Snippets
Bay 1984
Lunchtime
Easy Date
1970
1977
7-f
20-a
Song of Norway
Grey 1982
Vain
Love Song
1966
1976
A10
1-p
Scarlet Magnolia (AUS)
Chestnut 2012
Magnus
Bay 2002
Flying Spur
Bay 1992
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Razyana
1977
1981
7-a
2-d
Rolls
Chestnut 1984
Mr Prospector
Grand Luxe
1970
1974
13-c
4-g
Scandinavia
Chestnut 1994
Snippets
Bay 1984
Lunchtime
Easy Date
1970
1977
7-f
20-a
Song of Norway
Grey 1982
Vain
Love Song
1966
1976
A10
1-p
Scarletta
Chestnut 2006
Distant Music
Bay 1997
Distant View
Chestnut 1991
Mr Prospector
Seven Springs
1970
1982
13-c
16-a
Musicanti
Bay 1991
Nijinsky
Populi
1967
1975
8-f
4-f
Danavia
Bay 2000
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Razyana
1977
1981
7-a
2-d
Scandinavia
Chestnut 1994
Snippets
Song of Norway
1984
1982
20-a
1-p
 Ancestor duplications:Nijinsky4m x 5f Vain4f,5f x 5f Danzig5m x 5m,5m 
  Scandinavia3f x 3m,4f Danehillx 4m,4f Mr Prospectorx 5f,5m






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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

[QUOTE=Second Chance] Scarlet Magnolia listed as retired.

She is also since listed on the Studbook as having missed to Moshe. QUOTE]
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Scandimania lit up the 955 at The Valley tonight. Ran a low 55, not good enough for the voucher, but went over the line hands & heels.
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John Zeilke has 2yo Bold Kingston entered at Eagle Farm on Saturday. 

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Originally posted by Beliskner Beliskner wrote:

55.09


Drew barrier 8 and rail out 2 metres. Carried her full 57 and not punched right out as she beat her bunny early on straightening. She could well have beaten the best time with a tad more luck. Very smart win.
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One less for the family:
Helsinge (AUS) 2001
 Life Number: AUS00782337bay mareDate of Birth: 02/09/2001 
 Microchip Number: N/A2 stakeswinners & 31 stakeswinsDNA Typed: Y 
 by Desert Sun (GB) 1987Contact: Gilgai Farm, Vic 
 from Scandinavia (AUS) 1994 
 bred by Mr LJ Fleming, Mr R Crabtree, NSW 
Australian Breeding Record
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Service Date
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201614/12/2015Not A Single Doubt (AUS) missed
Snitzel (AUS) missed
201515/10bfilly 09/11/2014Canford Cliffs (IRE) foal died after birth
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BOOM TIME (AUS)Bay colt 2011 
Flying Spur
Bay 1992
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Pas de Nom
Bay or brown 1968
Admiral's Voyage
Petitioner
1959
1952
4-n
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Bay 1968
Ribot
Flower Bowl
1952
1952
4-l
4-d
Spring Adieu
Bay 1974
Buckpasser
Natalma
1963
1957
1-s
2-d
Rolls
Chestnut 1984
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Chestnut 1961
Native Dancer
Raise You
1950
1946
5-f
8-f
Gold Digger
Bay 1962
Nashua
Sequence
1952
1946
3-m
13-c
Grand Luxe
Chestnut 1974
Sir Ivor
Bay 1965
Sir Gaylord
Attica
1959
1953
2-s
8-g
Fanfreluche
Bay 1967
Northern Dancer
Ciboulette
1961
1961
2-d
4-g
Bit of a Ride
Bay 1999
Snippets
Bay 1984
Lunchtime
Chestnut 1970
Silly Season
Bay 1962
Tom Fool
Double Deal
1949
1946
3-j
1-g
Great Occasion
Chestnut 1965
Hornbeam
Golden Wedding
1953
1959
1-p
7-f
Easy Date
Bay 1977
Grand Chaudiere
Bay 1968
Northern Dancer
Lachine
1961
1960
2-d
19-b
Scampering
Bay 1970
Misty Day
Scamper Away
1958
1966
5-f
20-a
Lover's Chariot
Grey 1987
Zephyr Zip
Bay 1976
Zephyr Bay
Brown 1970
Biscay
Heavenly Wind
1965
1958
2-o
22-b
Corso
Bay 1971
Battle-Waggon
Milk Biscuit
1962
1966
3-o
24>
Love Song
Grey 1976
Warpath
Grey 1969
Sovereign Path
Ardneasken
1956
1964
4-l
21-a
Folk Song
Bay 1968
Tudor Melody
Lynsted
1956
1960
1-n
1-p
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer4m,5f x 5m Natalma5m,5f x


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Bendigo race 2 today

BEL COMIC (AUS)Bay colt 2013 
Bel Esprit
Bay 1999
Royal Academy
Bay 1987
Nijinsky
Bay 1967
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Flaming Page
Bay 1959
Bull Page
Flaring Top
1947
1947
4-m
8-f
Crimson Saint
Chestnut 1969
Crimson Satan
Chestnut 1959
Spy Song
Papila
1943
1943
2-o
26>
Bolero Rose
Chestnut 1958
Bolero
First Rose
1946
1946
6-a
8-c
Bespoken
Brown 1990
Vain
Chestnut 1966
Wilkes
Chestnut 1952
Court Martial
Sans Tares
1942
1939
1-p
13-c
Elated
Bay 1957
Orgoglio
Rarcamba
1949
1946
23-a
A10
Vin d'Amour
Bay 1981
Adios
Bay 1970
Silly Season
Angello
1962
1962
1-g
6-f
Gliteren
Chestnut 1969
Final Orders
Sunny Gold
1963
1957
2-c
34>
McDanzy
Bay 2005
Danzero
Bay 1991
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Confidentially
Bay or brown 1978
Kaoru Star
Chestnut 1965
Star Kingdom
Kaoru
1946
1955
1-g
31>
Idesa
Brown 1972
Idomeneo
Faresa
1960
1957
2-i
13-b
McHappy
Chestnut 1998
Rory's Jester
Chestnut 1982
Crown Jester
Chestnut 1978
Baguette
Anjudy
1967
1969
6-c
13-e
Rory's Rocket
Grey 1973
Roan Rocket
Cantadora
1961
1964
13-c
1-m
Song of Norway
Grey 1982
Vain
Chestnut 1966
Wilkes
Elated
1952
1957
13-c
A10
Love Song
Grey 1976
Warpath
Folk Song
1969
1968
21-a
1-p
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer4m x 5m Vain3f x 4f


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If you have a good mare do you back your judgement and send her to the same sire every season until you know it's working or not or do you go for the scattershot approach and send her to a different sire every season? 
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Ken McLean quotes Tesio in saying "if you think enough of a mating to do it once you must repeat 4 times" (not 100% certain of that number Wink)
Secretariat was the result of about the 6th repeat.
Hopefully someone can correct any errors in the above Big smile
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Todman and Noholme were the first two of seven named foals to Star Kingdom.

Magic Symbol had three named foals to Star Kingdom 1st Star of Heaven 2nd Biscay 3rd Tattenham

Secretariat was the 10th foal for his dam Somethingroyal.  She only went to Bold Ruler three times and he was the last try the first Syrian Sea also being a multiple stakes winner. Somethingroyal had 10 different mates for her 15 named foals.

Eight Carat had three named by Zabeel 1st Octagonal, 2nd Mouawad and 3rd Colombia.  She also had three named by Sir Tristram 1st Kaapstad, 2nd La Brillante and 3rd Nine Carat.  Seems Zabeel was the better mate.

Helsinge went to Bel Esprit three times with Black Caviar first foal.

Selene went to Phalaris three times for Sickle, Pharamond and lastly Salamis.

Ribt was the first of two named foals by Tenerani from his dam.

Ada Hunter visited bletchingly six times for 1st Kingston Town, 2nd Private Thoughts her only two stakes winners.

Promising had four named foals by Kaoru Star and the 1st was Luskin Star.
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Maybe going back awhile furious but would you know how many times Eternal City went back to Delville Wood.
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Eternal City has six named foals listed on the Stud Book site
1st Fort William, 2nd Redeswood, 3rd Prince Delville, 4thRoman Holiday, 5th Caesar, 6th Valerius

Fort William - minor SW
Redeswood - Flight S
Prince Delville - AJC Derby, Doomben Cup
Roman Holiday - minor SW
Caesar - Chipping Norton S, Queen Elizabeth S, Villier S, P J O'Shea etc
Valerius - Chipping Norton S, Brisbane Cup
PRINCE DELVILLE (AUS)Brown colt 1951 
Delville Wood
Brown 1942
Bois Roussel
Brown 1935
Vatout
Bay 1926
Prince Chimay
Chestnut 1915
Chaucer
Gallorette
1900
1907
1-g
8-k
Vasthi
Bay 1921
Sans Souci
Vaya
1904
1909
3-n
3-c
Plucky Liege
Bay 1912
Spearmint
Bay 1903
Carbine
Maid of the Mint
1885
1897
2-h
1-c
Concertina
Bay 1896
St Simon
Comic Song
1881
1884
11-c
16-a
Everlasting
Brown 1931
Phalaris
Brown 1913
Polymelus
Bay 1902
Cyllene
Maid Marian
1895
1886
9-e
3-f
Bromus
Bay 1905
Sainfoin
Cheery
1887
1892
2-g
1-i
All's Blue
Brown 1924
Buchan
Bay 1916
Sunstar
Hamoaze
1908
1911
5-i
16-g
Eos
Brown 1913
Orby
Renaissance
1904
1902
26>
2-n
Eternal City
Brown 1943
Epigram
Brown 1933
Son-In-Law
Brown 1911
Dark Ronald
Brown 1905
Bay Ronald
Darkie
1893
1889
3-o
9-b
Mother-In-Law
Bay 1906
Matchmaker
Be Cannie
1892
1891
22-b
5-d
Flying Sally
Chestnut 1919
Flying Orb
Chestnut 1911
Orby
Stella
1904
1890
26>
22-a
Salamandra
Brown 1913
St Frusquin
Electra
1893
1906
22-b
19-c
Fair City
Bay 1939
Fairway
Bay 1925
Phalaris
Brown 1913
Polymelus
Bromus
1902
1905
3-f
1-i
Scapa Flow
Chestnut 1914
Chaucer
Anchora
1900
1905
1-g
13-e
Celestial City
Bay 1930
Solario
Bay 1922
Gainsborough
Sun Worship
1915
1912
2-n
26>
Pilgrim's Progress
Bay 1921
Charles O'Malley
Va Via
1907
1913
5-h
1-g
 Ancestor duplications:Chaucer5m x 5f Phalaris3f x 4m Orby5f x 5m

All three inbreeding in the first 5 generation m x f or f x m
from the 1-g family of Star Kingdom and Chaucer who Delville Wood decends from in the tail male sireline
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Thank you furious, Prince Delville was a favourite in my school days, Roman Holiday was used as a track work mate and stablemate of Rising Fast, from all accounts a genuine horse with limited ability but a perfect foil for his better known stablemate at track work.
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Found an old photo of some interest!

One of our first mares - the beautiful LOVE SONG, and her filly later named Lover's Chariot.

Love Song holds a special place in history as her great grand daughter Helsinge produced the super star Black Caviar. So Love Song is the 4th dam of Black Caviar.
Lover's Chariot, aka Zippy, holds a very special place in our hearts. We owned her on 4 separate occasions throughout her life, including the end of her life. She is buried on my friends farm. Zippy is the grand mother of the last Caulfield Cup winner Boom Time.



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Thanks

That's a lovely photo and a great bit of TB history.
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WOW Thanks VSP, Some magnificent history there and clearly wonderful memories for yourselves.


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FELINO BEL (AUS)Bay filly 2014 
Bel Esprit
Bay 1999
Royal Academy
Bay 1987
Nijinsky
Bay 1967
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Flaming Page
Bay 1959
Bull Page
Flaring Top
1947
1947
4-m
8-f
Crimson Saint
Chestnut 1969
Crimson Satan
Chestnut 1959
Spy Song
Papila
1943
1943
2-o
26>
Bolero Rose
Chestnut 1958
Bolero
First Rose
1946
1946
6-a
8-c
Bespoken
Brown 1990
Vain
Chestnut 1966
Wilkes
Chestnut 1952
Court Martial
Sans Tares
1942
1939
1-p
13-c
Elated
Bay 1957
Orgoglio
Rarcamba
1949
1946
23-a
A10
Vin d'Amour
Bay 1981
Adios
Bay 1970
Silly Season
Angello
1962
1962
1-g
6-f
Gliteren
Chestnut 1969
Final Orders
Sunny Gold
1963
1957
2-c
34>
Purringa
Grey 2009
Purrealist
Chestnut 2004
Tale of the Cat
Bay or brown 1994
Storm Cat
Bay or brown 1983
Storm Bird
Terlingua
1978
1976
4-j
8-c
Yarn
Bay or brown 1987
Mr Prospector
Narrate
1970
1980
13-c
2-f
Surrealist
Grey 1996
Kenny's Best Pal
Chestnut 1989
Bletchingly
Eau d'Etoile
1970
1982
7-a
2-c
Sunset Beach
Grey 1991
Kenmare
Hula Gold
1975
1975
1-m
1-s
Bergman
Grey 2002
Anabaa
Bay 1992
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Balbonella
Brown 1984
Gay Mecene
Bamieres
1975
1978
3-l
1-n
Midnight Sun
Grey 1995
Western Symphony
Bay 1981
Nijinsky
Millicent
1967
1969
8-f
22-d
Song of Norway
Grey 1982
Vain
Love Song
1966
1976
A10
1-p
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