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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dr E Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Aug 2018 at 2:59pm
Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

crooked gambler we did the same sort of thing after the last big fires through the mountains.  The tourists stopped coming and businesses were hurting so we'd go up for a night and do some shopping and eating in different towns.

That's very cruel furious ... by doing that, you are just creating false economies - unless you intend doing that forever ... and then what happens to your own local businesses?

It's like subsidising a dying car manufacturing industry ... giving some short term money to encourage unsustainable business models (like farming in deserts without reliable irrigation) does nothing to help those people ... you are just setting them up for more disappointment and financial devastation.

All it does is makes you feel better, even though it's not your fault ... and if you can't artificially prop up every failing business in the country, how is it even fair?

Charles Darwin had it right.
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Those in strife appear to have simply not planned for dry times, according to these farmers.
I found this extremely interesting & a refreshing change to all the doom n gloom stories.

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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Bit hard to call it fake news when the banks have admitted to it.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/amp.abc.net.au/article/9698776

<h1 id="skip-to--ing" style="margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.25em; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: ABCSans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-rendering: optimizeLegibility; line-height: 1.2em; letter-spacing: -1px; : rgb249, 249, 249;">Banking royal commission: Lax lending by banks <span style="font-weight: normal;">could</span>see our debt problem come crashing down</h1> 

MORE FAKE NEWS? Thanks judge!Clap

Hahahaha! ... are you seriously relying on the ABC for economic "opinions" (that's all this is)? ... you do recall them sacking "Emma the Pretend Economics Editor" because of her lack of basic economic knowledge? ... you seem to have obtained your own knowledge from the same Corn Flakes packet as she did!LOL

BTW, if you actually bothered to read that article, can you tell me WHO said or even implied that there was an imminent debt problem? ... you should recognise the bankers statements as simple deflection 101, straight out of CNNPT's play book.Embarrassed

You would do well to just put this "The Sky is Falling!!!" headline, alongside all of the other politically motivated crap the ABC comes up with ... opinions that are constantly disproved, or simply never eventuate, shall we ... Wink

 


So you don’t know what a “deflection” is either? We’ll add that to the list...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote furious Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Aug 2018 at 4:04pm
Dr E it wasn't false.  It was replacing a tourist from England or USA who saw fires and thought the whole of the mountains were black so went to another place.  It happens.  I've a daughter who is a tour guide.  They have had a very good winter but usually have a quiet time.  So they take their holidays etc in that period.  Likewise you would find businesses who would work around the good and bad times.  But when a fire happens tourists think a fire a lithgow for instance means their holiday in Katoomba is not worthwhile so they cancel the trip and go to Queensland or Victoria ect.  You are just helping them keep going till people come back.
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And we have often had holidays in the mountains - walking and eating and enjoying the scenery almost in our backyard.  We go up there to markets all the time also.  Daughter is up there creating money flow probably three times a week.  All good.
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Bit hard to call it fake news when the banks have admitted to it.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/amp.abc.net.au/article/9698776

<h1 id="skip-to--ing" style="margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.25em; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: ABCSans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-rendering: optimizeLegibility; line-height: 1.2em; letter-spacing: -1px; : rgb249, 249, 249;">Banking royal commission: Lax lending by banks <span style="font-weight: normal;">could</span>see our debt problem come crashing down</h1> 

MORE FAKE NEWS? Thanks judge!Clap

Hahahaha! ... are you seriously relying on the ABC for economic "opinions" (that's all this is)? ... you do recall them sacking "Emma the Pretend Economics Editor" because of her lack of basic economic knowledge? ... you seem to have obtained your own knowledge from the same Corn Flakes packet as she did!LOL

BTW, if you actually bothered to read that article, can you tell me WHO said or even implied that there was an imminent debt problem? ... you should recognise the bankers statements as simple deflection 101, straight out of CNNPT's play book.Embarrassed

You would do well to just put this "The Sky is Falling!!!" headline, alongside all of the other politically motivated crap the ABC comes up with ... opinions that are constantly disproved, or simply never eventuate, shall we ... Wink

 


So you don’t know what a “deflection” is either? We’ll add that to the list...

That's it?Embarrassed

Listen, why don't you just acknowledge that you are out of your depth on any of the serious non-virtue signalling subjects (and paddling hard with them!), and avoid further humiliation and embarrassment.Wink

I recommend that you re-read my comments ... you might retain some of the facts on the subject that way.Big smile
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

Dr E it wasn't false.  It was replacing a tourist from England or USA who saw fires and thought the whole of the mountains were black so went to another place.  It happens.  I've a daughter who is a tour guide.  They have had a very good winter but usually have a quiet time.  So they take their holidays etc in that period.  Likewise you would find businesses who would work around the good and bad times.  But when a fire happens tourists think a fire a lithgow for instance means their holiday in Katoomba is not worthwhile so they cancel the trip and go to Queensland or Victoria ect.  You are just helping them keep going till people come back.

furious, you make a very good point - if the fire was a "one off", then yes, the assistance and actions that you suggest is valid.Thumbs Up

However, if those fires are a regular event, like droughts, then we are not addressing the problem.

If the root of the problem is ignored, and we are just throwing money at it for a short term fix, and hoping that history doesn't repeat, then we are mad - The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.

Unfortunately, fires, like droughts, are regular in Australia, and have been for hundreds of thousands of years ... due to our climate, which has been consistent over that time as well!

It seems to me that as long as I can remember, we have had just as many "Bushfire Appeals" as "Drought Appeals" and similarly, the Government declaring them as "Disasters" and providing taxpayer funds to put a band aid on the devastating outcomes, that are a result of our leaders failure to plan.   

We do have the ability to manage these things, and spending the money will save money in time ... and coincidentally, it is the ALP/Greens Collusion who stand in the way of proper forest management and hazard reduction (a natural phenomenon anyway), just as they stand in the way of dams and irrigation ... the Socialist Lefties are all about big government intervention, and they are anti people, especially people who aspire to do better for themselves.

In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

Those in strife appear to have simply not planned for dry times, according to these farmers.
I found this extremely interesting & a refreshing change to all the doom n gloom stories.

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Why doesn't every business person just put their hand out when they fail to plan for adverse conditions that they know will historically affect their business ... you know, like when their tax bill comes in!

Surely it would be a good thing of we could just run appeals, and hold telethons for them all, shame people into giving them money, and provide them with far more regular opportunities to make themselves feel good about themselves!

It's almost as annoying as those people whose home burns down and they are crying in the street because they didn't have any insurance and good old ACA runs the story and they raise enough to build them a new house + a new car + a holiday for the whole family to Disneyland!!!

I hate those people!!! ... Why am I the idiot who paid my insurance every year, and never could afford to take my family to Disneyland ... because I spent so much money on insurances!!!Cry
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Bit hard to call it fake news when the banks have admitted to it.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/amp.abc.net.au/article/9698776

<h1 id="skip-to--ing" style="margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.25em; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: ABCSans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-rendering: optimizeLegibility; line-height: 1.2em; letter-spacing: -1px; : rgb249, 249, 249;">Banking royal commission: Lax lending by banks <span style="font-weight: normal;">could</span>see our debt problem come crashing down</h1> 

MORE FAKE NEWS? Thanks judge!Clap

Hahahaha! ... are you seriously relying on the ABC for economic "opinions" (that's all this is)? ... you do recall them sacking "Emma the Pretend Economics Editor" because of her lack of basic economic knowledge? ... you seem to have obtained your own knowledge from the same Corn Flakes packet as she did!LOL

BTW, if you actually bothered to read that article, can you tell me WHO said or even implied that there was an imminent debt problem? ... you should recognise the bankers statements as simple deflection 101, straight out of CNNPT's play book.Embarrassed

You would do well to just put this "The Sky is Falling!!!" headline, alongside all of the other politically motivated crap the ABC comes up with ... opinions that are constantly disproved, or simply never eventuate, shall we ... Wink

 


So you don’t know what a “deflection” is either? We’ll add that to the list...


That's it?Embarrassed

Listen, why don't you just acknowledge that you are out of your depth on any of the serious non-virtue signalling subjects (and paddling hard with them!), and avoid further humiliation and embarrassment.Wink

I recommend that you re-read my comments ... you might retain some of the facts on the subject that way.Big smile


It’s pretty straightforward, you gibbering halfwit, so allow me to summarise:

RC to banks: “Did you employ dodgy lending practices?”

Banks: “Yep”

Now I’m not sure I can make it any simpler for you than that. You could cut and paste in pink I suppose.

But I think the problem runs deeper here, CK. You seem to be having another bitcoin, volcanoes or Gary Rohan moment here. That is, in your compulsion (presumably borne out of a desperate need for attention) to comment multiple times on anything and everything, it merely serves to reinforce the obvious- that is, across pretty much any topic you care to contribute, you hammer home the simple fact that you have no idea what you’re talking about.
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Bit hard to call it fake news when the banks have admitted to it.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/amp.abc.net.au/article/9698776

<h1 id="skip-to--ing" style="margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0.25em; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; font-family: ABCSans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-rendering: optimizeLegibility; line-height: 1.2em; letter-spacing: -1px; : rgb249, 249, 249;">Banking royal commission: Lax lending by banks <span style="font-weight: normal;">could</span>see our debt problem come crashing down</h1> 

MORE FAKE NEWS? Thanks judge!Clap

Hahahaha! ... are you seriously relying on the ABC for economic "opinions" (that's all this is)? ... you do recall them sacking "Emma the Pretend Economics Editor" because of her lack of basic economic knowledge? ... you seem to have obtained your own knowledge from the same Corn Flakes packet as she did!LOL

BTW, if you actually bothered to read that article, can you tell me WHO said or even implied that there was an imminent debt problem? ... you should recognise the bankers statements as simple deflection 101, straight out of CNNPT's play book.Embarrassed

You would do well to just put this "The Sky is Falling!!!" headline, alongside all of the other politically motivated crap the ABC comes up with ... opinions that are constantly disproved, or simply never eventuate, shall we ... Wink

 


So you don’t know what a “deflection” is either? We’ll add that to the list...


That's it?Embarrassed

Listen, why don't you just acknowledge that you are out of your depth on any of the serious non-virtue signalling subjects (and paddling hard with them!), and avoid further humiliation and embarrassment.Wink

I recommend that you re-read my comments ... you might retain some of the facts on the subject that way.Big smile


It’s pretty straightforward, you gibbering halfwit, so allow me to summarise:

RC to banks: “Did you employ dodgy lending practices?”

Banks: “Yep”

Now I’m not sure I can make it any simpler for you than that. You could cut and paste in pink I suppose.

But I think the problem runs deeper here, CK. You seem to be having another bitcoin, volcanoes or Gary Rohan moment here. That is, in your compulsion (presumably borne out of a desperate need for attention) to comment multiple times on anything and everything, it merely serves to reinforce the obvious- that is, across pretty much any topic you care to contribute, you hammer home the simple fact that you have no idea what you’re talking about.

Again, I'm just trying to help you out judge, because you don't understand.

I told you that lending practices are EXACTLY THE SAME as they have been for over 30 years ... you can describe them as "dodgy" if you wish, the RC's can do likewise, after all, it's their job ... so what? ... their practices haven't changed, and as much as the hand wringing virtue signalers at the ABC would like it, THERE IS NO DEBT CRISIS ... but it COULD happen, and if it did, it wouldn't be a result of mortgage lending practices, and it would have no effect on the property market that couldn't be explained as being a part of the normal cycle. 

No need to thank me, just stop spreading FAKE NEWS ya gullible dope!Wink
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dr E Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Aug 2018 at 3:43pm
In fact, as I alerted you to the facts judge, the irony is that the artificial restrictions that ASIC and APRA have placed on lending - because they do not understand property market cycles and were wetting the bed over the Sydney property boom - will amplify the current correction we are experiencing. So anyone who owns property in Sydney, and has lost a few hundred grand in the value of their assets, can thank the bed wetters in the public service who don't know what they are doing because they are not old enough to have experienced a cycle ... none of which has anything to do with a "debt crisis", which doesn't even get a mention in that article, anywhere other than the ABC'c conflated headline. 
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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AV has been saying for weeks now that a big climatic shift is close. Apparently since the '16 Super Nino, the atmosphere & the oceans have been at loggerheads when they generally work in sync, hence forecasters the world over having trouble getting it even remotely right.
He stresses there's no El Nino on the cards & that POAMA, the BOMs' best model is the only one in agreement.
End of Aug, early Sept. is when he's been expecting the flip & apparently it's now in the process.
We can but hope for all the regions in dire straits that it comes to fruition shortly & that his Spring forecast of 'average' for the SE is on the mark.
Tonight:

"And it has good rain in the SE and the Snowy Mountains. Later next week, the system closes in from the West, and if this set up can come off, it will be a well worth it with a big rain event.

But being so far out, moisture could do anything so will see what it does over the next few days.

Nothing for QLD yet, but that's also going to change within a couple of weeks, maybe in week 3, as moisture is now getting ready to swamp us from the North and East, and hopefully start producing much more favourable systems.

So its starting to come on, just need some luck now and we will see what this looks like later in the week."

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Broken Hill plagued by emus as they head into town in search of food, water

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-16/emus-take-over-broken-hill/10122430


A new team has flocked onto Lamb Oval to show the rugby league players how it’s done. £🤗

It could make for an interesting competition if the EMUS register a team next year. 🏆👏🏻

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Never mind emus way out there in the sticks .     The Roos are moving in here, loking for a feed.  Poor things.  All animals need to eat, and the drought is driving the native wildlife to come into town, looking for a feed.     OMG,,,,,,,never hit a wombat.   Slow down,,swerve,,,just dont hit one.
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