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maccamax
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Well over 60 .. Bradman was near 100 in different times but assisted by circumstances of the Cricket worlds hit in WW2. Bradman wasn't popular over his " fibrositis " claims, for not serving in WW2. His miracle recovery to return to cricket after "welching" on his Active service duties. |
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Whale
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Trump deferred 4 times for "plantar fasciitis", managed to play tennis and golf though |
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max manewer
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Smith's average is very healthy indeed. I recall Shane Warne being critical of Steve Waugh being "obsessed" with keeping his average over 50, and it affecting his captaincy. Smith has pulled well away from that, and could be said to be as good as any ever, bar the obvious singular exception, who some regard as an unprecedented ( and thereafter) sporting freak.
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Whale
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Has the advent of helmets seen an increase in batting averages ?
Also not much in the way of good bowlers for most of his career, would it be so easy against the West Indies of old ? |
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maccamax
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A different game today. . No more Boycotts staying at the crease for a day for 1 run. Interesting to see what the average scoring rates that are required 80-90 years ago and now. It is like saying Phar Lap would beat WINX ... Different ball game . WINX would shxt on him. |
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max manewer
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The batting average of the top bracket of players has not shown much change over the years, though, despite all the changes in the game. 50-60 over a lot of innings, is about where they sit. Bradman in another world.
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max manewer
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What happened away from the sporting field, of course, should not influence perceptions of sporting ability.
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maccamax
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I would have scored an average of over 100 against England during the blitz of London. In the late 1940's England were still processing and de radicalising POW's. Cricket couldn't be a priority. Bradman was OK . He didn't know a war was on until Bill O'Reilly told him in 1946. |
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Whale
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Trump knew when he slithered out of draft 4 times |
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max manewer
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I'm not any kind of cricket tragic, but it is puzzling that the balance between bat and ball, has stayed so steady, over a century or more, as attested by batting and bowling averages. The modern bats have a larger "sweet spot", but the athleticism of fielders may have counter-acted that to some extent. You don't see over weight players today, that would not have been able to make the catch, or limit the runs.
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max manewer
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You'd be a brave man, macca, to make the case that Bradman's career stats are the result of a war ! His reputation was well and truly established, long before 1939.
Athlete Sport Statistic Standard deviations Bradman Cricket, Batting, average, 4.4 Pelé, Association football, Goals per game, 3.7 Ty Cobb, Baseball, Batting average, 3.6 Jack Nicklaus, Golf, Major titles, 3.5 Michael Jordan, Basketball, Points per game, 3.4 |
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maccamax
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I'm of little know how too Max. > Many things come into the differences of time . . Even Religion had a big bearing back in time. O'Reilly & Bradman weren't the best of friends .. one a Mason the other catholic. People wouldn't believe how fanatical people were in those days. But on the more recent facts . Smith is good . His Fiance was interviewed yesterday. What an impressive young Lady After 6 years they are going strong and she is so supportive & proud . They have come through his Test progress since day 1. Behind success is a good woman. Lyons demise may be from one under him. |
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Whale
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yep Shane Warne's career was adversely affected
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cabosanlucas
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he is an ok commentator on cricket. but is genuinely up himself. tubbs is the most likeable and good to learn stuff from. im surprised at the crap levelled at ian chappell. yeah, he talks about "back in my day" alot. but he is very informative and everything he says is educational and means something. zero fluff. i think he might be one of those guys who if you get to know him..,you either like him or hate him. no in between. but based on his commentary, he is great listening. |
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maccamax
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Warne is a first class grub.
His $16 million Bachelor flats may be why he attracts the pretty Ladies. We call it prostitution in the real world. |
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max manewer
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It is sad the way some modern cricketers have accumulated a fortune from the game, where those of their father's generation, with similar ability, got little more than the cheers of the crowd. How it must grate.
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Whale
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why, it is the same in many sports ? |
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Declared 7:562
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maccamax
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I had a mixed Family Business in 1964 and Reg Gasnier was the ETA Rep. That was well after his test career started. |
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Tim Paine 3 off 26, he is pathetic as O"Hara.
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reductio ad absurdum
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max manewer
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Was that your "spot-fix" tip? |
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Dr E
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Pitch is deteriorating as quickly as a discussion on SSM ... this will be over today - 3 zip!
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maccamax
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He won't declare ... I'd drop Smith for the next series . He is stuffing us us know-alls predictions. I'm all for bringing Bradman back. |
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Brudder_A
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We do get the declaration at 662/9 and Paine for all its worth is left on 49 not out!
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maccamax
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A wicket just fell but why didn't Smith declare 100 runs ago. |
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Brudder_A
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Maybe he wanted to declare after he reached a triple ton? For him stats are important.... But for Paine they are a payne in the bu.tt |
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Australia dont do well going too far into last days of Tests, better to get a total on the better 4th day pitch, that you can bowl them out under and not risk a 4th innings collapse
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max manewer
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Let's not "second guess" the new Bradman, macca. I hope no-one starts a war he can fight in ! |
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Brudder_A
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POMs didn't learn anything in the field for 2 days....
Resistance is futile. I guess they want to spend all day Monday in the Pub. |
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