The Andrew Ramsden A New Era

Race 8 - 4:05PM The Andrew Ramsden (2800 METRES)Times displayed in local time of Race Meeting

Of $400,000.1st $240,000, 2nd $72,000, 3rd $36,000, 4th $18,000, 5th $10,000, 6th $8,000, 7th $8,000, 8th $8,000 Prize money contribution totalling 2% will be directed to jockey and equine welfare prior to distribution LISTED Standard Weight for Age, Three-Years-Old, Four-Years-Old and Five-Years-Old, Apprentices cannot claim. Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Good 4  Field Limit: 18 + 4 EM

No	Last 10	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Barrier	Weight	Penalty	Hcp Rating
1	1x21111x15	EASTENDER	Barry Campbell	Craig Newitt	9	58.5kg		102
2	21122x1111	STEEL PRINCE (IRE)	Anthony Freedman	Damien Oliver	3	58.5kg		99
3	x12120x461	ALFARRIS (FR)	David & B Hayes & T Dabernig	John Allen	19	58.5kg		93
4	52132x8830	AZURO (FR)	Ciaron Maher & David Eustace	Jye McNeil	15	58.5kg		82
5	274x236152	BARRY THE BAPTIST	Paul A Jones	Daniel Stackhouse	1	58.5kg		80
6	8150x08008	SERENADE THE STARS (IRE)	Peter Gelagotis	Jason Maskiell	14	58.5kg		74
7	723x512103	FELAAR (NZ)	Stephen Marsh	Michael Dee	6	58.5kg		88
8	0321492691	GOLDEN AUTHORITY (NZ)	Dane Smith	Harry Coffey	2	58.5kg		81
9	314247x815	SAN REMO (IRE)	Dane Smith	Luke Nolen	4	58.5kg		68
10	6466x35984	INSTIGATOR (GER)	Aaron Purcell	Declan Bates	12	58.5kg		76
11	0x34100x04	RUNAWAY	Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott	Stephen Baster	10	58kg		101
12	1151413	SURPRISE BABY (NZ)	Paul Preusker	Dean Holland	18	58kg		100
13	142x710x61	SASKO	Tony McEvoy	Andrew Mallyon	17	58kg		80
14	6x38111324	ROCKARRAL	Tony McEvoy	Jamie Mott	7	58kg		78
15	35110x5143	FAIRLIGHT (IRE)	Kris Lees	James Winks	16	58kg		72
16	3658x57352	SHEEZDASHING	Mathew Ellerton & Simon Zahra	Craig Williams	5	56kg		88
17	8488343321	BEMBOKA QUEEN	Robbie Laing	Patrick Moloney	8	56kg		65
18	116x033216	TRANSACT	Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott	Luke Currie	11	54kg		85
19e	6474907934	MENTAL TELEPATHY (NZ)	Simon Morrish	Beau Mertens	13	58.5kg

SASKO (AUS)

Bay gelding 2014

Teofilo Bay 2004	Galileo Bay 1998	Sadler's Wells Bay 1981	Northern Dancer Bay 1961	Nearctic Natalma	1954 1957	14-c 2-d
			Fairy Bridge Bay 1975	Bold Reason Special	1968 1969	19-b 5-h
		Urban Sea Chestnut 1989	Miswaki Chestnut 1978	Mr Prospector Hopespringseternal	1970 1971	13-c 16-g
			Allegretta Chestnut 1978	Lombard Anatevka	1967 1969	1-d 9-h
	Speirbhean Bay 1998	Danehill Bay 1986	Danzig Bay 1977	Northern Dancer Pas de Nom	1961 1968	2-d 7-a
			Razyana Bay 1981	His Majesty Spring Adieu	1968 1974	4-d 2-d
		Saviour Bay 1987	Majestic Light Bay 1973	Majestic Prince Irradiate	1966 1966	4-d 8-c
			Victorian Queen Bay 1971	Victoria Park Willowfield	1957 1965	10-c 1-n
Saskia Belle Chestnut 2006	Choisir Chestnut 1999	Danehill Dancer Bay 1993	Danehill Bay 1986	Danzig Razyana	1977 1981	7-a 2-d
			Mira Adonde Bay or brown 1986	Sharpen Up Lettre d'Amour	1969 1979	5-i 22-b
		Great Selection Chestnut 1990	Lunchtime Chestnut 1970	Silly Season Great Occasion	1962 1965	1-g 7-f
			Pensive Mood Chestnut 1983	Biscay Staid	1965 1968	2-o 8-f
	I'm a Thunder Chestnut 1998	Thunder Gulch Chestnut 1992	Gulch Bay 1984	Mr Prospector Jameela	1970 1976	13-c A4
			Line of Thunder Bay 1987	Storm Bird Shoot a Line	1978 1977	4-j 11-d
		I'm in Business Chestnut 1981	Jevington Chestnut 1971	Todman Magic Way	1954 1963	1-u 2-o
			Rain Check Bay 1974	Rain Lover Easter Rocket	1964 1959	1-g 16>

Ancestor duplications:

Northern Dancer

4m,5m x

Mr Prospector

5m x 5m

Danehill

3f x 4m

I'm In Business (AUS) 1981  Aust.Id.: 220858 chestnut mare Date of Birth: 14/10/1981    2 stakeswinners & 5 stakeswins DNA Typed: Y   by Jevington (AUS) 1971 Contact: Mileshan Nominees Pty Ltd, Vic   from Rain Check (AUS) 1974 Died (21/06/2007)    bred by K M Bignell & Co, Mrs M Bignell, Mr P M Bignell, WA

Stakes Winning Progeny
Winner	Year	Race Name That Year	Status
Mr. Prudent (AUS) 1994	2001	AJC Sydney Cup	1
	1999	Tatt's NSW Tattersall's Plate	L
Zamination (NZ ) 1988	1993	AJC Metropolitan Handicap	1
	1992	STC Tulloch Stakes	2
	1993	AJC Colin Stephen Quality	3

Wow! Has a strong stable a crew behind him but that is extremely short in this era of international domination.

Edited by Gay3 - 23 May 2019 at 6:06pm

Massive over to my eye. Wish it drew better but I’m on

Edited by Gay3 - 23 May 2019 at 6:05pm

breeding_above_all wrote: Just can’t see Steel bearing Surprise Baby with that weight swing and how Suprrise Baby finished

I definitely can, Steel did all the work last start, was entitled to stop. Can't see him being beat with an easier run..sure I saw $3.50 or so when markets went up so someone agrees as is under $3.00 now

Yeah well done Heavy, but you should be giving half your return to Oliver.

One of the best distance riders I have seen, hand down!

VRC already considering changes.
Prizemoney boost again next year and a ban on imports
Aus and NZ bred only

They want to increase the race from $400,000 To $700,000 and make it a Group race

Well they have Group races and restrict to age and sex class.
Don’t see how this is any different

Tlazolteotl wrote: Jamal wrote: They want to increase the race from $400,000 To $700,000 and make it a Group race Can you get a Group classification and restrict it to AU/NZ breds? I wouldn't have though so but there don't seem to any rules.

djebel wrote: Xavier wrote: VRC already considering changes. Prizemoney boost again next year and a ban on imports Aus and NZ bred only They are determined to weaken the Melbourne Cup.

I need to know djebel what you mean by weakening the field?

Some of the donkeys that get a run from overseas because they won a group 3 two years ago against five opponents, should not be given precedent over the locals.

The Ebor has been a qualifier for the last ten years at least, and it has a shocking record of providing place getters let alone winners of the cup.

The reason I asked my question is I already know punters who were died in the wool Cup punters, but they now bet around the race (so they bet up big in the 3yo fillies race before, and the 1800m listed event after) because the form lines are to hard to line up of the overseas horses who do not run here before the cup!

The race is losing its appeal among non racegoers as well, so I am not against the VRC giving another local stayer an exemption.

I think you miss the point of the race djebel.

The Melbourne Cup is not the best race quality wise every year, but it is history.

The Kentucky Derby is the most well known race in US but the field is usually made up of horses who could not win at 2000m if they had a minute head start.

There are so called better races around the world, including the richest at Meydan which is run on some in between surface, where the field is not made up of all the best horses in the world.

The Melbourne Cup is the best quality 3200m handicap in the world. No it is not a wfa event, no it does not see Winx or Arrogate or Dubai Millenium or Frankel or Black Caviar, but it is what it is.

The overseas horses such as Red Cadeaux, Yeats, Americain, Dunaden, and others have proven themselves in other big races internationally, I mean we even had a horse run in 1996 who had run third in the Arc.

Just because some more locals get a run and keep out one or two internationals who have form from two years ago and they can still make the race to me is not a popularity contest, it is good marketing and promotion.

I agree that the thought this race should not be open to imports, is ridiculous, as the only thing I care about is if the import is trained in Australia, it makes them Australian as the prizemoney stays here!
   

I agree with this 95%

Edited by Gay3 - 28 May 2019 at 3:17pm

Take your time lol, a day a week longer if you like , but I will mention this I'm leaning a little your way in regards to trainers , but imo it's the "system" it's changed so much in the last 15-20 years it's a smorgasbord for sprinter/milers and the trainers have fallen into line with what's on the "menu", there are NZ trainers that are better and more patient with stayers than ours because they have never lost sight of the "bunny", the big pay day that comes with time, they are much more hungrier ( no smorgasbord ) and they plan.