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    Posted: 24 Jun 2018 at 11:47am
Planning a trip to the Apple Isle, can’t believe I’ve never been. Must sees, hidden gems? Any mail from locals, travellers much appreciated.
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How long you going to be there ?  You need months to see it all.  We love Cradle Mountain and the lake, if you like walking.    The old train from Queenstown down to the coast, and the Gordon River, is very pretty, and interesting.
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Thanks acacia, that’s definitely on the list...just need to convince a few on the “walking” caper.
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If you would like to invite Isaac with you Judge you might like to visit here and see exactly why the Chinese are after Australia.😀

https://bridestowelavender.com.au

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-2894663/Tasmanias-lavender-bear-smells-potential-Chinese-market.html
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I Heart Tassie!

Great produce and wines Judge, but you are already spoiled for that in your own backyard!

Beachfront Bicheno on the "Gold Coast of Tassie" is beautiful, and often overlooked - fresh, fresh seafood.

Do a whiskey tasting at one of their growing number of world class distilleries. We went to Nant - it was like the Scottish Highlands.

Salamanca Markets is an obvious one in Hobart.

Tour of either the Cascade (Hobart) or Boags (Launceston) breweries are fun.

Strahan is a lovely town and launching spot for river cruises on the West coast.

Port Arthur is a place you will never forget - it's eerie.

MONA is a must do.

... and everything aa said!Thumbs Up

Best part of Tassie for me is that no matter what you want to do, it's not far away ... and they have one of my favourite beers - try a Moo Brew Hefeweizen!
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wasnt going to spoil the party but.......

China sets its sights on Tasmania with controversial $100m development plan

CHINESE tourists are flocking to this surprising Aussie state in record numbers. But an ambitious $100 million plan has sparked a local backlash.


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Is the Australian economy too reliant on China?

CHINA has its sights set on Tasmania.

A proposed $100 million resort on the southern state’s east coast backed by Chinese investors is proving controversial, with residents concerned about the impact on their surroundings.

Tourism currently contributes around $2.3 billion — around nine per cent — to the Tasmanian economy.

The state government wants to capitalise on this, with over a billion dollars designated for hotel developments.

But locals are seriously concerned that the island’s natural beauty may be at risk.

CHINA’S GROWING FASCINATION WITH TASMANIA

In November 2014, Chinese president Xi Jinping made a historic visit to Hobart. He was the highest-profile head of state to visit the state, and his much-publicised visit inspired a massive boom of Chinese visitors.

That same year, Tasmanian Premier Will Hodgman declared the state “open for business” — which he reiterated in parliament just last week.ince then, Chinese tourists and investors alike have increasingly taken an interest in the tiny southern island.


Tasmania received 35,000 Chinese visitors last year, making up 13 per cent of the state’s international visitors and spending a total of $83 million — a whopping increase of 63 per cent on the year before.

In 2016, Australia’s biggest dairy firm Van Diemen’s Land Company was sold to a Chinese businessman for $A280 million.

Earlier this year, its five Tasmanian directors all quit. In 2017, Chinese millionaire William Wei purchased the award-winning Villa Howden wedding venue, which looks out onto North West Bay.But over the past two months, a huge China-backed eco-resort has seen locals holding different concerns.

CONTROVERSIAL CHINA-BACKED $100M DEVELOPMENT

In April this year, a proposal was announced for a $100 million eco-resort called Cambria Green, which would be developed at Dolphin Sands, a picturesque coastal region north of Swansea in Tasmania.

The project has been labelled one of the state’s biggest tourism developments, and would include a 300 villa and unit precinct, a health retreat, a 120-room “Cambria Sky hotel’ and 240 accommodation units. The resort would stretch over 3000 hectares, including a golf course.

A palliative care unit was also included in the development’s master plan.

The property would overlook the breathtaking Freycinet National Park, which is one of the state’s biggest tourism attractions.

It was proposed by the Cambria Green Agricultural Tourism Management, helmed by Hong Kong-born Melbourne developer Ronald Hu, and Liu Kejing, a Chinese businessman from Shandong.

On its Facebook page, the pair said they want to “bring the surrounding community along our long-term journey, with an aim to attract more Tasmanian and international tourists, to both enjoy the beautiful East Coast of Tasmania and bring added economic value and jobs to the region”.he majority of the landowner consent forms have been signed by Mr Kejing.

The development is hoping to attract wealthy Chinese tourists to the region. Last year, Chinese tourism in Tasmania saw a 60 per cent increase on 2016. There were a total of 279,000 international tourists in Tasmania last year, spending almost $500 million.

Tasmania currently has the highest level of foreign ownership of any Australian jurisdiction, with China its largest investor, according to the Guardian.

WHY LOCALS ARE WORRIED

The proposed development has sparked a number of concerns among Swansea locals.

Anne Held, president of the East Coast Alliance, told news.com.au people feel they’ve been left in the dark over the development.

“The main concerns are really the scale and intensification of what they say they’re going to do,” she said. “It just begs the question — does an area that’s as pristine, as stunning serene and majestic as this need something that’s as big as a new town with its own commercial centre, at the expense of people who live there?

“You’d imagine this could fit around a major city, but not around a small rural village on the east coast.The developers said it will be good for the economy, in that it will encourage tourism and create full-time jobs, but Anne said locals are “not convinced” it will raise employment figures significantly.

It didn’t help that China broke the news of the development three days before Tasmanians heard about it, holding a signing ceremony in Beijing that celebrated a partnership between Beijing Lidaohengtong Culture and Art Company and Cambria Green to create three art museums on the property.

“The signing ceremony created fear because it happened three days before where they initiated the application. It felt like Cambria Green had gone into this sign-in agreement with the Beijing Culture and Art Company and left us in the dark.

“There was no consultation before the area plan was submitted. They haven’t been clear in exactly what they want, and there’s this whole element of the unknown that creates a feeling of mistrust.”

She also said locals hold environmental concerns about how developments — if they go ahead — could affect Tasmania’s unique flora and fauna.

A CASE OF FOREIGN INVESTMENT GONE TOO FAR?

The Tasmanian Greens have slammed the proposal, saying the development is symbolic of growing concerns over foreign ownership and influence in Tasmania.

“There has been an unprecedented surge in money coming in from businesses that are closely linked to the Chinese communist government, there is no way around that,” said Tasmanian Greens Leader Cassy O’Connor.

Ms O’Connor stressed it was not about race or ethnicity, saying it’s rather about politics and the strategic objectives of the “oppressive and authoritarian” Chinese government.overnment.

“We will not be the useful idiots for the Chinese Communist Party. We will come into this place and defend Tasmania’s sovereignty, our food security, our way of life and our cultural identity every single day of the week.”

Mr Hu, the Melbourne developer, rejected the idea that influence operations were relevant.

“If my operation influence something, would I call it Chinese influence or not? Because I’m Australian, I’ve been here 30 years, alright? I definitely share Australian values. I am one of the Australians,” he told the ABC. “But I don’t know, people might think, ‘You are not that type of Australian’. I don’t know.”

Political tensions between Canberra and Beijing remain high. Over the past year, the Chinese government has been under ongoing scrutiny over its alleged interference in Australian politics. Likewise, Canberra has indicated it may be prepared to go to war with China if tensions were to escalate in the South China Sea.

Both these issues have sparked threats from the Chinese government. Just last month, the state-run Global Times issued a lengthy editorial threatening trade reductions to harm our economy, to “make Australia pay for its arrogant attitudes it has revealed toward China over the past two years”.ut for locals, this is not as significant. Anne says Tasmanians are mainly concerned with how much their pristine surroundings may potentially change.

“If this goes through, it sets a scary precedent for Tasmania,” she said. “Tasmania’s beauty is based on its national parks, its heritage, its gorgeous environment.

“For a development of this nature to take place in this prime spot on Tasmania’s east coast … that sets a precedent for the rest of the state for sureJUNE 22, 201810:43A


you might want to visit sooner rather than later.

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And Tasmania does well from GST payments, courtesy of the forgotten state of Western Australia.
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And some more


Why are the Chinese so interested in Tasmania?

What's happening in Tasmania? It's hard to say but it's happening awfully fast. In 2014, the Chinese President Xi Jinping visited Hobart. Author and political commentator George Megalogenis says the Chinese are now Hobart’s second largest immigrant group.

In 2015, Tasmanian Premier Will Hodgman declared that "In China and Tasmania, governments at all levels are collaborating actively ...". In 2016, Australia's biggest dairy farm, which is in Tasmania, was sold to a Chinese company. In April this year, the Tasmanian members of its board resigned en masse over governance issues.

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Now you’ve done it Softly.
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Thanks Doc. A few of those are on my list, I’ll add the others. The Moos are all good, will definitely try and track that down.
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Beware of Chines mini subs Judge if you dip a toe in the water. Remember what happened at Cheviot Beach? 
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love this comment
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Because it will make a great strategic location for the Southern Ocean once we become the 23rd Province or sooner if our political class can arrange it.

pt will agree whole heartedly!
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Because nobody is reading your China thread?
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nearly 80 000 views in the china thread?
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Mostly because you keep re-reading your own material.  Wink
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I look twice a day to see if Isaac has actually posted a view, opinion or comment, and to respond to his desperate plea for me to admit I am a Chinese ''plant''.  No luck on the former yet.
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Port Arthur and MONA
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I agree about Port Arthur.  Its an eerie place with lots of history and very well maintained.   And Bicheno is just beautiful. Really you need a day for P.A. not just a few hours. Take the short cruise around the Isle Of The Dead and hear the history of it. And if you are that way inclined, which I am, do the night ghost walk around the site with the guide. Smile
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Mt Wellington, Cataract Gorge.

Depends what you're interested in and how much driving you want to do. I drove through a tiny town called Derby last time I was down there, on the long and winding way to Launceston from the east coast-- drive was interesting but town nothing special-  now it is the hottest mountain-biking place in australia.
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The top corner,  north west, Stanley and The Nut.  Used to be able to go up in a chair lift thingo.  very wild and pretty country.
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Mostly because you keep re-reading your own material.  Wink

you have to work on your standards. Still lowWink
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Take the China stuff back to its own thread and leave this one for Tasmanian discussion, will ya, Isaac ??
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Yes sorry Judge. (Aren’t they bothersome lol).
A couple of other places that may be of interest,

http://thewalltasmania.com.au

Mole Creek is a scenic farming area with some great caves;

http://molecreek.info/natures-wonders/mole-creek-caves/
while Devils Gullet nearby has spectacular views, but bit of a drive.

The golf courses near Bridport if your into that sort of thing and as Dr E mentioned the entire East Cost is quite nice (Wineglass Bay, Bay Of Fires etc.)
And if you’ve backed a winner or two a stay at Saffire Freycinet might be in order.
At the moment we also have the only racecourse in the world where the field moves from side to side of the track three times before finishing.
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I thought that was so funny Gay3 ....

It was in yesterdays Telegraph with slight alteration.
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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

I agree about Port Arthur.  Its an eerie place with lots of history and very well maintained.   And Bicheno is just beautiful. Really you need a day for P.A. not just a few hours. Take the short cruise around the Isle Of The Dead and hear the history of it. And if you are that way inclined, which I am, do the night ghost walk around the site with the guide. Smile
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We didn't do that, but spoke to some people who did and they raved about it ... we will do it next time for sure!

... and yes, you can definitely spend a full day there! 
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Mt Wellington, Cataract Gorge.

Depends what you're interested in and how much driving you want to do. I drove through a tiny town called Derby last time I was down there, on the long and winding way to Launceston from the east coast-- drive was interesting but town nothing special-  now it is the hottest mountain-biking place in australia.
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I reckon the wind blows straight off Antarctica at the top of Mt Wellington Ouch ... and it wasn't even winter when we went up there ... amazing views!
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For the kids (first one in honour of the Irish Derby winner);

https://www.chocolatewinterfest.com.au (at Latrobe)

On the way to Cradle Mt

(Sheffield is a little town that has become pretty well known amongst overseas tourists, T’s Chinese is a must but does depend what mood Morher is in lol).)

http://muralfest.com.au

https://www.tasmazia.com.au



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Redmead stood just out of Sheffield in his later years.  The murals there are wonderful. 
Take a cruise on the Tamar.
We went up Mt Wellington at night , after it has snowed on top.  My OH had never seen snow so first thing I did was warn him, its compacted and will be slippery.  First thing he did was step out of the car and go guts upLOL

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