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    Posted: 30 Nov 2019 at 3:01pm
Very surprised that Djebel hasn't highlighted this 2yo. Great international breeding, debut over 1000m Flemington was very good and wins 1st at MV today over 1000m. 

Looks likely to improve with distance and age and surprised to see it competitive over 1000m. Perhaps the pushing of him at this young age will backfire on his longevity and his ability to run a middle distance and maybe it would have been preferable to have a more patient training technique. Unfortunately we will never know.

Hopefully he can develop.

Over to Djebel and others to post pedigree and opinions.
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Cheers Kavg

I posted this earlier in the blog: "First time i can remember a Japanese-bred 2yo foaled to SH time win a race in Oz".

Conceived in Japan to SH time with Tagaloa imported in utero.

His sire Lord Kanaloa won any number of Gp 1 races over 1200m, whilst his grand-dam was a 7 furlong Gp 3 winner in GB, so his early precociousness isn't entirely surprising.

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Thumbs Up Sire's sire was a world class at a mile ... expect this bloke will be too.
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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TAGALOA (AUS)Bay colt 2017 
Lord Kanaloa
Bay 2008
King Kamehameha
Bay 2001
Kingmambo
Bay 1990
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Gold Digger
1961
1962
8-f
13-c
Miesque
Bay 1984
Nureyev
Pasadoble
1977
1979
5-h
20>
Manfath
Brown 1991
Last Tycoon
Bay or brown 1983
Try My Best
Mill Princess
1975
1977
8-f
8-c
Pilot Bird
Bay 1983
Blakeney
The Dancer
1966
1977
20-c
22-d
Lady Blossom
Bay 1996
Storm Cat
Bay or brown 1983
Storm Bird
Bay 1978
Northern Dancer
South Ocean
1961
1967
2-d
4-j
Terlingua
Chestnut 1976
Secretariat
Crimson Saint
1970
1969
2-s
8-c
Saratoga Dew
Bay 1989
Cormorant
Bay 1974
His Majesty
Song Sparrow
1968
1967
4-d
5-j
Super Luna
Bay 1982
In Reality
Alada
1964
1976
21-a
2-s
Vasilissa
Chestnut 2012
Heart's Cry
Bay 2001
Sunday Silence
Brown 1986
Halo
Bay or brown 1969
Hail to Reason
Cosmah
1958
1953
4-n
2-d
Wishing Well
Bay 1975
Understanding
Mountain Flower
1963
1964
1-g
3-e
Irish Dance
Bay 1990
Tony Bin
Bay 1983
Kampala
Severn Bridge
1976
1965
7-a
19-b
Buper Dance
Bay 1983
Lyphard
My Bupers
1969
1967
17-b
6-a
Penkenna Princess
Bay 2002
Pivotal
Chestnut 1993
Polar Falcon
Brown 1987
Nureyev
Marie d'Argonne
1977
1981
5-h
8-c
Fearless Revival
Chestnut 1987
Cozzene
Stufida
1980
1981
4-m
7>
Tiriana
Bay 1995
Common Grounds
Bay 1985
Kris
Sweetly
1976
1975
2-o
7-a
Proudfoot
Bay 1988
Shareef Dancer
Noble Dust
1980
1982
4-r
21-a
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Yes,
Lord kanaloa the sire of Almond Eye and Heart's Cry is the sire of Lys Gracieux and also the first and only Japanese horse to beat the amazing Deep impact.
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Bruce McLachlan and then Magic Millions 2yo race.
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Probably a very good 3yld miler in the making? But stable has a habit of dancing every dance with them! Eventually burnt out?
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If he was mine he'd be on the float/truck to the Gold Coast quick smart after his post-race recovery.
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Yep second chance. Go chase that money! They probably will that’s what they do! Every horse that shows a glimps of ability there in every derby or oaks in OZ. Then they blame jockeys for not winning! Heard all there excuses
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If they send their Vet up to QLD with the horse, it will be a competitive in any race.
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A trainer, any trainer, finds himself with a precocious youngster that appears to haves the ability to win the Magic Millions 2yo, a race restricted to horses offered at the MM sales.  First prize well over a million dollars.

Your average owner rarely if ever gets the opportunity to have his or her horse in a $2m race, let alone have a live chance of winning it.

The youngster appears fit, fast, sound and ready to go.

So the trainer and owners get their heads together to map out the colt's future, and decide to put him away for a couple of months because he should be far better over 1600m when more mature.  So endeth the fairy tale.  
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Looks more like 3yld to me? But have been wrong before
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Originally posted by Discohips23 Discohips23 wrote:

If they send their Vet up to QLD with the horse, it will be a competitive in any race.

The Moderator has apparently warned you about continually unsubstantiated accusations.  But here you go once again, implicitly slurring a conveniently unnamed vet.  

As far as evidence is concerned, are you going to put up or shut up?
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So are you saying Adam's a vet who has the skill to legitimately improve the colt's well-being and performance? 

A simple yes or no will suffice.  Smile




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Of course he can. He’s obviously a fantastic, credible Vet. 
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Thanks Disco.  Great to see.
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Second Chance you are boring and repetitive. I hope your husband has good ear muffs.
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Or oink oink as you're otherwise known around here.Big smile
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Back on topic.... As djebel has said many times in the past any horse that shows speed in Oz is treated as a sprinter whereas he could well be a middle distance horse with a turn of foot.
Hopefully he will be given a chance. I'm not a fan of going to MM as it can wear youngsters out.
He also may get run off his feet early in such a race and that may be to his detriment.
I'd consider going to slipper first up and then champagne over the mile if they really wanted 2yo success and some longevity.
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Would need to win another race at very east in order to qualify for a run in the Slipper.
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...at least..  Embarrassed
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Or run 2nd or perhaps 3rd in a significant lead up race.
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It's impossible to knock back the MM with a qualified runner, provided he is fit and well ... the restricted nature means that he may not have much to beat anyway ...
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Just think horse will be cooked. Not sure if they even have a final?
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Paddock for 10 days.

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I like that plan better Gee Gee. And perhaps a crack at one of the sires and/or champagne at Randwick. Would set him up nicely for a 3yo career.
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