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Wild Hostess has missed twice to Deep Field, going to switch as don’t want hercoming home empty. Want to add speed, plenty of stamina, good wind, good conformation there. Does anyone see any problem with Extreme Choice? I love the Hussonet and Rory’s Jester, though it’s close breeding. Has to be in Hunter Valley.
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Same service fee - or less
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I wouldn't change on the basis of two services.  Deep Field is a good match, has excellent fertility generally, and you have at least two more chances with him.

And, with respect, the mare rather than sire might be the problem.


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A few options for you.  I won't go into a lot of detail but I think that all offer something for the mare.

Al MAHER- a well priced very good proven stallion who will give you a good chance of breeding a horse that will run.  A great way to kick off the career of an unproven mare.

MIKKI ISLE - an interesting Japanese stallion who was a top racehorse.  An interesting pedigree that I think suits the mare.  It is probably not going to be highly sought after in the sales ring

RUBICK - a stallion with his first 2yo's on the track and they seem to be going OK.  Another that would seem to suit the mare and could be one who will go on with a sound career, and has been well supported with numbers

SCISSOR KICK - a unproven stallion but again a reasonable mating.  He does not look to have had the greatest support, so probably a high risk sales prospect.  His family has plenty of 2yo's but a bit more substance to the female line than a lot of prospects, so he is worth a look.


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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

I wouldn't change on the basis of two services.  Deep Field is a good match, has excellent fertility generally, and you have at least two more chances with him.

And, with respect, the mare rather than sire might be the problem.



Yes the mare has been slow also. DF is obviously our top choice. Text book pregnancy and foaling with her first foal last year to Excelebration. Just don’t want to miss out this year if for some reason they’re not clicking
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Seeing Southern Image worked so well , with the immediate female line ,and the presence of Snitzels female line in his pedigee , maybe Sizzling or Wanjina could an alternitive and if not super busy ,A dual service of one of these and DF and if a positive scan happens you get a chance of either .All at the same farm, over to the experts .
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Why not go to the full brother Shooting to Win
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We are breeding to race ourselves, Thanks for your input. I’m Having a good look at them all.
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Originally posted by ianb ianb wrote:

Why not go to the full brother Shooting to Win

That decision was made initially and was based on the mares build and the build of STW’s progeny. Not for us
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The problem with me is they all look good 😁 I see a few famous names and I get star struck! And the frustrating part is you know that somewhere you are looking at a really handy horse, or maybe even better........but which one is it? Introduce Danehill, DH free, balanced Mr P? And on and on it goes, the challenge is the drawcard?
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Doubt you will get into Nicconi as he will be busy due to not serving after an injury mid breeding season.  

Sebring a big price tag for breed to race.

Shamus Award is doing nothing

Supido an unknown.

Breed to race I would be going for something proven and in your price range.  Your Song may be an option for you at Widden.  

Outside of proven I would want to see foals on the ground.  Of the newer boys, Mikki Isle puts a nice foal on the ground.  Divine Prophet throwing a nice type and very very fertile.
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2 from 2 today for Shamus .
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Gundagai - not really getting me excited.  To be fair, he has a lot of friends from that crop of sires that aren't doing much.  
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Shamus just had one come 3rd at Doomben , was a flashing red light run .
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Shame Smart Missile was moved... there's a bit to like with that cross, particularly given Wild Hostess' second dams performance with that Rough Shod blood...
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Originally posted by StormSiren StormSiren wrote:

Shame Smart Missile was moved... there's a bit to like with that cross, particularly given Wild Hostess' second dams performance with that Rough Shod blood...

Good work, that’s the sort of stuff I don’t pick up on 👌 Waiting to hear result of 3rd cover by Deep Field.
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Mags is home and in foal to Deep Field! May have to name the foal “Third Time Lucky” 🍀
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Thank you to all who took the time to give me input on other stallion options, luckily she, or he, finally got it right 😊
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