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STYLISH CENTURY (AUS)Brown colt 1986 
Double Century
Brown 1975
Century
Brown 1969
Better Boy
Bay 1951
My Babu
Bay 1945
Djebel
Perfume
1937
1938
5-j
1-w
Better So
Bay 1944
Mieuxce
Soga
1933
1938
7-d
2-n
Royal Suite
Brown 1960
Rego
Brown 1949
Nasrullah
Missy Suntan
1940
1941
9-c
5-d
Baraganda
Brown 1948
Baroda
Propaganda
1939
1941
14-b
20>
Hello Love
Brown 1966
Adamastor
Bay 1959
Norseman
Bay 1940
Umidwar
Tara
1931
1932
3-e
13-c
Alora
Chestnut 1954
Ballyogan
Agnes
1939
1944
2-s
4-i
Princess
Chestnut 1959
Star Kingdom
Chestnut 1946
Stardust
Impromptu
1937
1939
16>
1-g
Persist
Chestnut 1945
Macarthur
Grail Girl
1940
1933
4-g
13-b
Stylish
Brown 1978
Forex
Bay 1966
Royal Palm
Bay 1952
Royal Charger
Chestnut 1942
Nearco
Sun Princess
1935
1937
4-r
9-c
Pasquinade
Bay 1940
Pasch
Fur Tor
1935
1930
3-i
10-d
Formule
Chestnut 1960
Kurun
Chestnut 1952
Whirlaway
Asmena
1938
1947
8-h
9-e
Finariel
Bay 1954
Fine Art
Feriel
1939
1940
1-k
2-u
Tudor Damsel
Bay 1972
Planet Kingdom
Chestnut 1967
Star Kingdom
Chestnut 1946
Stardust
Impromptu
1937
1939
16>
1-g
Lilting
Brown 1960
Messmate
Del Monte
1954
1954
9-h
2-r
Tudor Wench
Bay 1966
Henry the Seventh
Chestnut 1958
King of the Tudors
Vestal Girl
1950
1948
19-b
12-f
Lumina
Bay 1961
Nimbus
Crystal Palace
1946
1956
6-f
1-s
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STYLISH WORLD ATTACK IN '92

MICHAEL LYNCH
Jul 19, 1991 – 10.00am
THE five country overseas raid planned for Australia's globetrotting galloper Stylish Century has been put on hold much to the chagrin of the horse's owner Dick "I'll Do It My Way" Monaghan.
The ambitious campaign, which would have seen one of Australasia's best racehorses pitted against top class opposition in the US, Ireland, England, France and Japan in a four-month global odyssey, has been axed because of trouble arranging connecting flights.
Monaghan, however, remains undaunted and is determined to put the same programme into action next year, but this time with better organisation.
Stylish Century next year will spend his Australian winter spell in the US, in the northern hemisphere summer, where he will be properly acclimatised and contest a series of lead-up races before tackling the first of his main targets, the 2000 metre Arlington Million race in Chicago.
"I believe his performance in the races like the Million, Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe and English Champion Stakes could mean so much to the Australian racing and breeding industry that it would not be fair to anybody -particularly Stylish Century -
if we couldn't give him every opportunity to perform to the best of his ability," Monaghan said.
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Stylish Century, as well as being one of the best racehorses in the country, is probably the most controversial, thanks largely to Monaghan, a Gold Coast builder. Although he has owned horses for many years Monaghan has never had one as good as Stylish Century, winner of the 1989 Victoria Derby and $2.3 million in stakemoney.
But he has been the target of severe criticism for his insistence on doing things his way with Stylish, his habit of changing trainers the way other people change socks and for "interfering" in the training and programme-planning for the horse's races.
Monaghan defends his policy of "total involvement". As he puts it: "You only get one innings and I want to enjoy it. A horse like this comes along only once in a lifetime".
Monaghan admits, however, that Stylish has been footing a lot of the bills since he purchased the horse at the 1988 yearling sales. "In November 1988 I borrowed a lot of money to buy a development site on the Gold Coast to put up 18 units. Then interest rates went sky high. A lot of Stylish's earnings have been paying off the interest charges on those borrowings."
A legion of critics point out that while it might be fine and dandy for Monaghan to enjoy himself, Stylish Century may not necessarily concur.
The horse has had six trainers in his three year career - Noel Doyle at the Gold Coast, Bart Cummings in Sydney, Bill Mitchell in Sydney, Ron Gill at Caloundra and also in Melbourne, Jeff McCarter at the Gold Coast, and, since Tuesday of this week, Monaghan himself in Brisbane.
Stylish Century really hit the headlines in the spring of his three-year-old career (1989) after Monaghan took the horse away from Bart Cummings following a public row over the way he was running his races. Cummings, one of the most successful trainers in Australian racing history, said this week: "I think Dick's the only one who understands racing,"suggesting that if Monaghan could get his weight down enough he would probably want to ride Stylish Century himself.
Since then, horse and owner have had a high media profile through on-track exploits or off-track misadventures, like the time Stylish Century almost drowned in the equine swimming pool at Flemington last year when being prepared for the Melbourne spring carnival, or when he galloped riderless around the circuit in Tokyo before the Japan Cup last November. Stylish Century still led the field for most of the journey but was run down inside the final stages as a wall of horses swooped past. Victory went to rival Australian galloper Better Loosen Up.
Monaghan's decision to cancel the horse's overseas campaign will certainly mollify some of his biggest critics, many of whom argued Stylish Century was being asked to do too much.
Asked about the programme earlier this week, Cummings said: "The horse is one of the really few great fast stayers seen in recent years, but it (the itinerary) is the sort of thing you would plan for your mother-in-law or bank manager."
Monaghan declares that when next year rolls round, the horse's interests will be paramount "I'm doing this because I love it so much. If I was a billionaire I would do the same thing. I love being with Stylish at trackwork in the morning. I am very proud in a way that people get hostile with Stylish. For some reason this horse has captured the imagination. A lot of people seem to think they own a bit of him." *




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How would his owner go in today's social media era ? 




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I don't think social media would have made any difference at all to Dick Monaghan.  He clearly didn't give a rat's for what anybody thought back then so I doubt he would have been fazed by the opinions of twits and instagrammers.   

It was his horse and he was entitled to do as he pleased with it - and so he did. 
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He was a beautiful animal who was very talented.
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the horse not the owner I mean
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STYLISH CENTURY

1986 brown horse
(Double Century - Stylish)
Owned by Dick Monaghan
Trained by


58 starts 11 wins 8 seconds 7 thirds   $2,460,820


WON of 13 Doomben 30Nov88 1200m Firm2 2YO Maiden $5,000 ($3,300) Steven Sharman 55kg Barrier 7  5th Dan's Legend 53kg 1:10.80 3-1
WON of 12 Doomben 27Dec88 1110m Soft7 MNUGG 2YCG $45,750 ($30,750) Steven Sharman 55.5kg Barrier 7 2nd Cool Credit 53kg, 3rd Blue Paso 55kg 1:07.40, 6L 7-4
WON of 8 Doomben 21Jan89 1200m Firm2 2YO Handicap $12,000 ($7,800) Steven Sharman 57kg Barrier 2  1:10.80 1-5
Freshened 4 weeks
WON of 16 Gold Coast 18Feb89 1200m Good3 Gold Nugget Stakes Listed $211,800 ($135,400) Brian York 54kg Barrier 16 4th Cool Credit 54kg, 8th Mutual Respect 54kg 1:08.34 11-8
2nd of 5 Rosehill 04Mar89 1200m Soft7 Todman Slipper Trial Group 2 $100,750 ($20,000) Brian York 55.5kg Barrier 5
0:00.00, 0.1L 4-9
WON of 13 Kembla Grange 07Mar89 1200m Firm2 Brambles Classic Group 3 $136,250 ($98,750) Brian York 55kg Barrier 2  1:09.40 4-6
8th of 16 Rosehill 18Mar89 1200m Soft7 Golden Slipper Stakes Group 1 $1,665,050 K Russell 55.5kg Barrier 9  1st Courtza (NZ) 52.5kg 1:12.80, 7.5L 6-1
11th of 17 Randwick 27Mar89 1400m Soft7 AJC Sires Produce Group 1 $199,450 K Russell 55.5kg Barrier 15  1st Reganza 54kg, 6th Select Prince 55.5kg 1:27.60, 12.5L 15-2
Spell 19 weeks
7th of 12 Warwick Farm 05Aug89 1000m Good3 San Domenico Stakes Group 2 $76,450 Mr Jim Cassidy 55kg Barrier 9  5th Crackenback (NZ) 55kg 0:00.00, 4.7L 11-1
2nd of 9 Warwick Farm 19Aug89 1160m Soft7 Up & Coming Stakes Group 3 $75,050 ($13,500) S Edmonds 54kg Barrier 2  0:00.00, 2.5L 12-1
4th of 12 Canterbury 26Aug89 1550m Soft5 Peter Pan Stakes Group 2 $126,550 ($6,250) John Marshall 55.5kg Barrier 12  1st Party Mood 55.5kg, 3rd Crackenback (NZ) 55.5kg 1:36.29, 3.1L 5-2
3rd of 13 Rosehill 09Sep89 1900m Firm2 Gloaming Stakes Group 2 $151,350 ($15,000) John Marshall 55.5kg Barrier 2 2nd Cool Credit 55.5kg 0:00.00, 2.2L 15-4
6th of 12 Randwick 23Sep89 1600m Firm2 george Main Stakes  Group 1 $252,150 Mr Craig Carmody 49kg Barrier 3  1st Vo Rogue 58.5kg, 2nd Groucho 58.5kg 1:35.40, 2.2L 12-1
WON of 14 Randwick 30Sep89 2000m Firm2 AJC Spring Champion Stakes Group 1 $302,150 ($206,150) Mr Craig Carmody 55.5kg Barrier 2
2:02.40 13-2
10th of 16 Caulfield 14Oct89 1600m Good3 Caulfield Guineas Group 1 $500,000 Mr Craig Carmody 55.5kg Barrier 12 3rd Prince Salieri 55.5kg 0:00.00, 5.7L 8-1
2nd of 14 Moonee Valley 28Oct89 2040m Good3 WS Cox Plate Group 1 $1,706,500 ($340,000) Mr Kevin Moses 48.5kg Barrier 14 1st Almaarad (IRE) 59kg, 3rd Empire Rose (NZ) 56.5kg 2:03.20, 0.2L 33-1
WON of 13 Flemington 04Nov89 2500m Firm2 VRC Victoria Derby Group 1 $753,000 ($490,500) Mr Kevin Moses 55.5kg Barrier 11 3rd Dr. Grace (NZ) 55.5kg 2:34.20 11-4
21st of 23 Flemington 07Nov89 3200m Firm2 Melbourne Cup Group 1 $1,850,000 Mr Kevin Moses 47kg (cd 47.5kg) Barrier 10 1st Tawrrific (NZ) 54kg, 2nd Super Impose (NZ) 56kg 3:17.10R, 38.2L 11-2
Let Up 12 weeks
3rd of 11 Moonee Valley 29Jan90 1200m Good3 William Reid Stakes-WFA Group 1 $270,000 ($25,000) Mr Kevin Moses 53kg Barrier 3 1st Lightning Bend 57kg 1:09.00R, 0.9L 7-1
4th of 11 Flemington 17Feb90 1600m Good3 Australian Guineas Group 1 $352,000 ($17,500) Mr Kevin Moses 55.5kg Barrier 6 1st Zabeel (NZ) 55.5kg 1:37.30, 3.5L 11-8
WON of 8 Caulfield 03Mar90 1800m Good3 Autumn Classic Group 3 $151,000 ($98,500) Mr Kevin Moses 55.5kg Barrier 5 2nd Zabeel (NZ) 55.5kg, 5th Drumming 55.5kg 1:48.20, 6L 3-1
4th of 10 Flemington 12Mar90 2000m Good3 Australian Cup  Group 1 $655,000 ($32,500) Mr Kevin Moses 52.5kg Barrier 2 1st Vo Rogue 58kg, 2nd Better Loosen Up 57kg 2:00.90, 2.8L 2-1
2nd of 12 Moonee Valley 17Mar90 2040m Firm2 Alister Clark Group 2 $508,000 ($100,000) Mr Kevin Moses 54kg Barrier 9 1st Zabeel (NZ) 54kg, 3rd Grayden Gambler 54kg 2:01.50, 0.1L 4-5
10th of 16 Rosehill 31Mar90 2000m Heavy10 Rosehill Guineas Group 1 $403,350 Mr Kevin Moses 55.5kg Barrier 12 1st Solar Circle (NZ) 55.5kg, 3rd Zabeel (NZ) 55.5kg 2:06.33, 14.6L 9-4
2nd of 14 Randwick 14Apr90 2400m Soft5 AJC Derby Group 1 $1,308,915 ($234,000) Mr Kevin Moses 55.5kg Barrier 7 1st Dr. Grace (NZ) 55.5kg, 3rd Solar Circle (NZ) 55.5kg 2:31.70, 1.3L 6-1
Freshened 5 weeks
WON of 12 Doomben 19May90 1615m Soft5 Doomben Classic Listed $100,000 ($65,000) Mr Kevin Moses 55kg Barrier 4 2nd Rough Habit (NZ) 55kg, 11th Sioux Chief (NZ) 55kg 1:37.80, 0.2L 7-4
11th of 18 Eagle Farm 02Jun90 2400m Good3 O'Shea Stakes Group 2 $100,000 Mr Kevin Moses 53.5kg Barrier 6 3rd Dr. Grace (NZ) 53.5kg 0:00.00, 6.5L 4-1
Let Up 11 weeks
12th of 14 Moonee Valley 18Aug90 1200m Soft5 Manikato Stakes Group 1 $252,300 Mr Kevin Moses 57kg Barrier 14 1st Street Ruffian 57kg, 5th GRandwickiose 58kg 1:12.10, 9.8L 7-1
10th of 12 Caulfield 01Sep90 1400m Soft5 Memsie Stakes-WFA Group 2 $150,500 Steven Sharman 57kg Barrier 6 1st The Phantom (NZ) 58.5kg 1:25.60, 8.2L 5-1
2nd of 9 Moonee Valley 15Sep90 1600m Good3 JF Feehan Stakes-WFA Group 2 $250,000 ($50,000) Mr Kevin Moses 57kg Barrier 6 1st Better Loosen Up 58.5kg 1:35.50, 0.1L 12-1
6th of 12 Caulfield 27Sep90 2000m Soft5 Underwood Stakes Group 1 $250,000 Mr Kevin Moses 57kg Barrier 2 1st The Phantom (NZ) 59kg, 3rd Zabeel (NZ) 57kg 2:01.50, 3.3L 15-8
4th of 12 Caulfield 17Oct90 2000m Good3 Coongy Handicap Group 3 $75,000 ($3,750) Mr Kevin Moses 57kg Barrier 3 2nd Kingston Rule (USA) 53kg, 3rd Goliath (NZ) 53.5kg 0:00.00, 2.4L 5-1
5th of 11 Moonee Valley 27Oct90 2040m Firm2 WS Cox Plate Group 1 $1,706,500 Mr Kevin Moses 57kg Barrier 2 1st Better Loosen Up 59kg, 2nd Sydeston 59kg 2:01.50R, 1.9L 13-2
2nd of 11 Flemington 03Nov90 2000m Firm2 LKS Mackinnon Stakes Group 1 $301,000 ($60,000) Mr Kevin Moses 57kg Barrier 1 1st Better Loosen Up 58.5kg, 3rd Mr. Brooker (NZ) 58.5kg 2:02.90, 0.4L 9-4
10th of 15 FCHU 25Nov90 2400m Good Japan Cup Group 1 $000 Mr Kevin Moses 57kg (cd 0kg) Barrier 0 0:00.00
Let Up 14 weeks
4th of 7 Caulfield 02Mar91 1400m Firm2 Futurity Stakes  Group 1 $301,000 ($15,000) Darren Gauci 57kg Barrier 2 1st Redelva 57.5kg, 3rd Planet Ruler 57.5kg 1:22.60, 4.4L 14-1
3rd of 9 Rosehill 16Mar91 1500m Firm2 George Ryder Stakes Group 1 $353,350 ($28,000) Darren Beadman 57kg Barrier 2 5th Bassie's Pride 55.5kg, 7th Zabeel (NZ) 57kg 0:00.00, 3.1L 7-1
9th of 20 Randwick 30Mar91 1600m Soft5 Doncaster Handicap  Group 1 $1,002,170 R Quinton 56kg Barrier 4 1st Super Impose (NZ) 59.5kg, 3rd Shaftesbury Avenue 58kg 1:36.50, 5.7L 25-1
WON of 8 Randwick 01Apr91 2000m Good3 AJC Queen Elizabeth Stakes Group 1 $252,170 ($172,170) Mr Kevin Moses 57kg Barrier 6 6th Castletown (NZ) 57kg, 7th Sydeston 58kg 2:02.90 11-4
3rd of 6 Randwick 06Apr91 1600m Firm2 All Aged Stakes Group 1 $252,170 ($20,000) Mr Kevin Moses 57kg Barrier 6 1st Shaftesbury Avenue 57kg, 2nd Super Impose (NZ) 57.5kg 1:33.80, 4.4L 15-2
4th of 13 Gosford 10Apr91 2100m Firm2 Gosford Cup Group 3 $202,500 ($4,000) Mr Kevin Moses 55.5kg Barrier 12 6th Century Reign (NZ) 50.5kg, 7th Bassie's Pride 50.5kg 0:00.00, 3.4L 11-4
Spell 16 weeks
6th of 6 Rosehill 03Aug91 1100m Good3 Missle Stakes  Group 3 $76,710 Mr Wayne Harris 58kg Barrier 6 1st Joanne 55.5kg, 2nd Dr. Grace (NZ) 58kg 1:04.60, 8.4L 30-1
9th of 6 Warwick Farm 24Aug91 1400m Firm2 Warwick Stakes Group 2 $101,470 Mr Kevin Moses 58.5kg Barrier 6 1st Super Impose (NZ) 58.5kg 1:24.70, 5.7L 15-1
3rd of 13 Randwick 07Sep91 1600m Good3 Chelmsford Stakes Group 2 $101,470 ($8,000) K Russell 58.5kg Barrier 5 0:00.00, 3.1L 15-1
5th of 6 Canterbury 21Sep91 1900m Firm2 Hill Stakes Group 2 $101,778 ($2,000) Michael Johnston 59kg Barrier 5 1st Super Impose (NZ) 59kg 1:56.69, 7.6L 7-2
10th of 12 Randwick 28Sep91 1600m Good3 George Main Stakes Group 1 $252,170 Mr Kevin Moses 58.5kg Barrier 6 1st Planet Ruler 58.5kg, 2nd Kinjite (NZ) 49.5kg 1:36.50, 5.5L 16-1
10th of 20 Randwick 05Oct91 1600m Good3 Epsom Handicap Group 1 $402,170 Mr Shane Scriven 55.5kg Barrier 17 1st Super Impose (NZ) 61kg 1:34.70, 4.4L 50-1
10th of 14 Moonee Valley 26Oct91 2040m Good3 WS Cox Plate Group 1 $1,706,500 Damien Oliver 59kg Barrier 1 1st Surfers Paradise (NZ) 57kg, 2nd Super Impose (NZ) 59kg 2:03.80, 7.8L 66-1
7th of 13 Flemington 02Nov91 2000m Firm2 LKS Mackinnon Stakes Group 1 $301,000 Damien Oliver 58.5kg Barrier 11 1st Let's Elope (NZ) 54.5kg, 2nd Super Impose (NZ) 58.5kg 2:01.80, 6.1L 25-1
3rd of 12 Flemington 09Nov91 2500m Firm2 VRC Queen Elizabeth Stakes Group 2 $151,000 ($15,000) Damien Oliver 55kg Barrier 10 1st Frontier Boy (NZ) 53.5kg 2:33.40, 2.7L 5-1
WON of 11 Sandown 16Nov91 2400m Firm2 Sandown Cup Group 2 $153,000 ($100,500) Mick Dittman 56.5kg Barrier 4 6th Frontier Boy (NZ) 57kg, 7th Notwithstanding (NZ) 49.5kg 2:29.40 6-1
13th of 14 Ascot 30Nov91 1800m Firm2 Winfield Classic  Group 1 $177,000 Damien Oliver 58.5kg Barrier 4 1st Old Role 50.5kg, 2nd Vows 50.5kg 1:48.57, 17.8L 5-2
Let Up 10 weeks
6th of 7 Sandown 08Feb92 1400m Firm2 C.F.Orr Stakes Group 2 $100,000 Mr Neville Wilson 57.5kg Barrier 6 1st Let's Elope (NZ) 55.5kg, 2nd Prince Salieri 57.5kg 1:22.00R, 5.5L 25-1
4th of 5 Flemington 15Feb92 1600m Good3 Blamey Sks Group 2 $101,000 ($5,000) Darren Gauci 57.5kg Barrier 2 3rd Dr. Grace (NZ) 57.5kg, 5th Better Loosen Up 57.5kg 0:00.00, 3.7L 40-1
8th of 9 Flemington 09Mar92 2000m Firm2 Australian Cup Group 1 $655,000 Darren Gauci 58kg Barrier 1 1st Let's Elope (NZ) 55.5kg, 3rd Prince Salieri 58kg 2:00.00R, 13.5L, 20-1/25-1
2nd of 5 Canterbury 21Mar92 1900m Firm2 Canterbury Cup Group 3 $76,418 ($13,500) K Russell 57kg Barrier 5 3rd Forfun (IRE) 51.5kg 0:00.00, 1.5L 11-2
3rd of 10 Rosehill 28Mar92 2000m Good3 Ranvet Stakes Group 1 $303,360 ($24,000) Mr Kevin Moses 58kg Barrier 4 1st My Eagle Eye (NZ) 57kg, 2nd Rough Habit (NZ) 58kg 2:05.23, 0.9L 33-1
8th of 11 Rosehill 11Apr92 2400m Good3 BMW Tancred Stakes Group 1 $1,020,860 Mr Kevin Moses 58.5kg Barrier 2 1st Heroicity 52.5kg, 3rd Rough Habit (NZ) 58.5kg 2:29.16, 12.5L 11-1

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What happened to him when he retired ?  Wasnt there some drama or have I got my wires crossed ?  (Again ).
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Wiki says he died of a spider bite but nothing about him in retirement more except that he proved an unexceptional sire.
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2 stakes winners.

Stylish Century (AUS) 1986
 Aust.Id.: 263556brown stallionDate of Birth: 18/10/1986 
 2 stakeswinners & 4 stakeswinsDNA Typed: Y 
 by Double Century (AUS) 1975 
 from Stylish (AUS) 1978Died (04/06/2003) 
 bred by Mr L Foyster, NSW 
Stallion Fertility Statistics
SeasonMares
Covered
Mares
Returned
MissedSlippedDead
Foals
Live
Foals
Fertility
Percent
Service
Fee
2002201702015(1)100.0%$2000
200120162518(0)87.5%$4400
2000181420012(0)85.7%$4000
1999434173130(0)82.9%$3500
19984341121226(1)70.7%$3500
1997202004115(0)100.0%$5000
1996110001(0)100.0%FOA
1995220002(0)100.0%FOA
1994330111(0)100.0%FOA
1993110001(0)100.0%FOA
Total17115623166111(2)




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I met Mr Monaghan and his wife at the 1996 Scone Horse week we had dinner a couple of times, lets just say he did not lack self belief.
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I think he might be the last horse to run in both the Golden Slipper and the Melbourne Cup in the same calendar year  ... in fact he might be the only horse to do so.

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Served very small books and of his mares were very ordinary, so two stakes-winners from about 60-odd to race wasn't too bad at all.  
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That era was what got me hooked on racing as a teenager. Stylish Century, Better Loosen Up, Vo Rogue, Super Impose, Let's Elope, Shaftsebury Avenue, even Prince Salieri, Dr Grace etc...

For all the older folk here, was there ever a time when so many talented horses were going round at the same time against each other? For me ever since then, it's just been individual horses that keep me as interested in racing as a spectator sport. Actually that's not true - there was the Sunline/ Northerly/ Lonhro/ Makybe etc era too. I think that was the last time there were so many equally talented horses competing against each other? Feel free to laugh at me!
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Anyone who laughed at that lot mate would be hard to please , history will tell you we have had beautiful horses through each decade, like truffles just gotta dig em up.
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Originally posted by Tontonan Tontonan wrote:

I think he might be the last horse to run in both the Golden Slipper and the Melbourne Cup in the same calendar year  ... in fact he might be the only horse to do so.




Criterion????
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Originally posted by saintly96 saintly96 wrote:

Originally posted by Tontonan Tontonan wrote:

I think he might be the last horse to run in both the Golden Slipper and the Melbourne Cup in the same calendar year  ... in fact he might be the only horse to do so.




Criterion????


Sorry, same calender year, not too many would have done that, I wouldn't have thought.
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Criterion and Sky High were two that were rattling around in my head but Sky High was 4 when he run in the Melbourne Cup and Criterion was 5.  The only other horse I can think of who started in both races was Sunshine Sally. 

There may be more.  I packed up all my reference material and it would be quite a chore to dig them out to check .  It is remarkable that there are any at all.

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Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Anyone who laughed at that lot mate would be hard to please , history will tell you we have had beautiful horses through each decade, like truffles just gotta dig em up.

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Royal Sovereign?

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I can't ever recall RS running in a Slipper , seen him win the AJC Derby , by the NZ stallion Chatsworth if I remember correctly , maybe sire not nominated at the time as was the ruling., could well be wrong though.
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I have him running 4th in the Slipper behind Eskimo Prince & 13th in the Cup behind Polo Prince.

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I will believe you before me Grey Affair, now was he a triple or double Derby winner,?there's no doubt you are are right ,maybe I'm thinking about another horse ,
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Yes. Triple Derby winner!

He defeated Strauss & Park Lane in the AJC Derby, Strauss & Captain Blue in the VRC Derby & Park Lane & Rocky Court (10 lengths x 6 lengths) in the QTC Derby.

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Thanks Grey Affair , great work.
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Well done Grey Affair. That means Royal Sovereign was the first horse to run in both the Slipper and the Melbourne Cup in the same calendar year - and Stylish Century was the last to do so.  


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Possibly. I was just working from one of Peter Pring's books. Maybe there was a handy horse who wasn't quite good enough to feature in that book but still ran in both events.

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Does anyone have a list of three year olds who have competed in the Melbourne Cup since 1957?

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