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    Posted: 25 Aug 2015 at 10:47pm
Theodore winner tests positive to arsenic
Posted by: AAP+Filled in: Australian Horse Racing News | 25/8/2015 at 5:51pm



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Maiden winner Guilty As Charged has returned a positive swab sample to the banned substance arsenic.

The Stephen Theodore-trained galloper returned a positive post-race urine sample after winning at Geelong on May 29.

Racing Victoria stewards advised Theodore of the irregularity on August 1, which has since been confirmed.

Stewards are continuing their investigations into the the positive sample.

Read more: http://www.unnamedwebsite.com.au/news/australian-racing/theodore-winner-tests-positive-to-arsenic/292820#ixzz3jp42KPmL



Read more: http://www.unnamedwebsite.com.au/news/australian-racing/theodore-winner-tests-positive-to-arsenic/292820#ixzz3jp3kAXnF
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote monty Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Aug 2015 at 10:48pm
The irony is the horse in question is called "Guilty As Charged"!!
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What does arsenic do apart from kill rodents ??
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Originally posted by Nocturnal Nocturnal wrote:

What does arsenic do apart from kill rodents ??


Arsenic based products have been used in many horse sport for years , it's safe in minute amounts but the results are amazing I have used it myself, it turns finicky eaters around an improves coats an skin condition like you never seenšŸ‘I would hardly believe it would improve a horses performance šŸ˜accept in the way that they probably had never absorbed the right nutrition before to allow themselves to look & feel that good, one in particular is
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doesn't it increase appetite and have blood-thinning properties? 

wiki says that is subtoxic doses some soluble arsenic compounds have been used as stimulants 
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Phar Lap people?
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I'd have thought we moved on from Phar Lap a bit - just a few yeas back a Tassie trainer had a positive swab for arsenic  in a Vic black type race - but they couldn't get a second accredited lab for the B sample or some such and they wouldn't pay him until he got some lawyers 
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So it could of nibbled on a new treated pine fence? Doubt it of course
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stand to be corrected but i believe they took arsenic out of the treated pine posts some time ago
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Old Posts your honour!

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The apple never falls far from the tree
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Originally posted by slowdown slowdown wrote:

stand to be corrected but i believe they took arsenic out of the treated pine posts some time ago

True they did!
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ingredientsĀ being Copper oxide, Chromium trioxide, Arsenic acid and water.

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Thats from a current Australian pine manufacturer
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Alas I'm sure it's not the only horse in Australia who cribs...
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Boy I could unload some stories about this family.

I mean seriously how bad a look is it when we just keep slapping some participants on the wrist.

Either something is against the rules or not! And if it is and you are on your tenth breach, then it should be see you later and find something else to do with your life.
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If improves their appetite but builds up in their system and causes their hair to drop out. Used to be used a lot many years ago.
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What ever happened to Theodore and his arsenic positive? Dr Google found nothing.
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I can't find anything on the case either, maybe they got off?
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The horse still has a win on his record, but has had a change of stable
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In the past year this stable had 50 runners for two non metro wins (4%). Shows the difference when under scrutiny
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Were it just as simple.

In point of fact it instead demonstrates that he's lost his earlier client base, resulting in a huge decrease in number and class of runners with an entirely unsurprising downturn in results as a consequence.

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In the past year this stable had 50 runners for two non metro wins (4%). Shows the difference when under scrutiny

Shows the difference when they canā€™t tube. Shea Eden is a case in point.

Every winner they have had prior you have to wonder (were they tubed) and the answer is probably. Hopefully the drug cheats will disappear eventually.
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I believe I saw on twitter that his wife has been having health issues lately.
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