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It is a hell of alot of rambling but this is a brother trying to comprehend what his brother has done.




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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

It is a hell of alot of rambling but this is a brother trying to comprehend what his brother has done.




Yes Dj.    Presents as genuine in his shock.
The Lady friend and her connections will be of interest , given ISIS is active in areas of the Philippines.
We can only guess at this time .
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Sorry ,  but Bro seems to me to be all about ME ME ME.  He feels sorry for himself and his mother but,
He barely touches on the dead and injured. 
And when he says about      we are wealthy people blah blah blah     we dont work at Taco Bell.
How arrogant is that !!Disapprove     At a time like this when his brother has just murdered dozens of ordinary every day people. Sick  
I will bet dollars the girlfriend has given him the flick.    Apparently he talked to her like she was dog doo doo.     She ask him for money in the casino and he told her you dont need money ,,I am paying for everything you have.
I reckon Bro is a loose cannon as well. 

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Is the mother still alive ? What a fun life, an FBI Most Wanted hubby, now an historic mass murderer son.
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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Sorry ,  but Bro seems to me to be all about ME ME ME.  He feels sorry for himself and his mother but,
He barely touches on the dead and injured. 
And when he says about      we are wealthy people blah blah blah     we dont work at Taco Bell.
How arrogant is that !!Disapprove     At a time like this when his brother has just murdered dozens of ordinary every day people. Sick  
I will bet dollars the girlfriend has given him the flick.    Apparently he talked to her like she was dog doo doo.     She ask him for money in the casino and he told her you dont need money ,,I am paying for everything you have.
I reckon Bro is a loose cannon as well. 




Of course you would.

You know exactly how a person should behave in his situation.



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Oh well.  Of course .  Big smile   And you do have a clue , do you ??
Of course you do !!  Thumbs Up     You feel sorry for him no doubt ?? 
Mum is still alive and living in the lap of luxury thanks to her killer son. And Bro is holding the fort in the interview stakes.  Probably will make millions from his interviews.
Mum must have had a strange taste in men.  2 kids to the bloke on the FBI most wanted list. And one ends up a mass murderer.

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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Oh well.  Of course .  Big smile   And you do have a clue , do you ??
Of course you do !!  Thumbs Up     You feel sorry for him no doubt ?? 
Mum is still alive and living in the lap of luxury thanks to her killer son. And Bro is holding the fort in the interview stakes.  Probably will make millions from his interviews.
Mum must have had a strange taste in men.  2 kids to the bloke on the FBI most wanted list. And one ends up a mass murderer.



How you can come to that conclusion from that media conference is typical garbage.

That was a person trying to rationalise what the kiss his brother has done. He was basically rambling, a wreck coming to terms with it

Only a true dimwitted fool would condemn the brother or not have some sort of compassion for him.



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Righto.  I am a dimwitted fool.
But I will wager you he goes on to make a mint out of his interviews about his brother.

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PS,,by the way,  Did you see him make any reference at all ,  give any sympathy,  empathy,  to the victims ?? And their families ?
He rambled on for 30 mins.    All about his family.  His mother.  His brother.   Him.  How bad he felt. Blah blah blah.
Any mention of the victims and their families ??   



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Seems very proud of his brother, and himself ... hope they have enough surveillance!
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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

PS,,by the way,  Did you see him make any reference at all ,  give any sympathy,  empathy,  to the victims ?? And their families ?
He rambled on for 30 mins.    All about his family.  His mother.  His brother.   Him.  How bad he felt. Blah blah blah.
Any mention of the victims and their families ??    






Sure he only talked about the victims 2 or 3 times, he'd have been better off doing very little but that..

Clearly though this was a highly emotional bloke trying to comprehend why his brother who for all intense and purposes had the perfect life would do such a evil crime.

Of course you expect him to behave as though there is some sort of instruction manual on how to deal with such a crime.


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Of course I dont !!   What rubbish !!
But I dont expect him to belittle people by making that crack about them being rich, and the poor working at Taco Bell.  Totally uncalled for. 
Anyone notice the Christmas wreath on the door behind him ??  Weird .Ermm
Focus on the victims , and flick this nut job off.   



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The extent of his wealth and the source of that wealth is unclear to me. Nothing in his employment history suggests great wealth. He owned apartments at one stage, apparently, but you need money to buy an apartment block.
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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Righto.  I am a dimwitted fool.
But I will wager you he goes on to make a mint out of his interviews about his brother.


How much money is it worth to be the brother of the worst mass murderer in modern history and about a quarter of the population convinced you were in on it?
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Incredible interview. I was reluctant to watch because things like this get way too voyeuristic. I heard a separate interview with a criminologist the other day arguing we (the public) should know nothing about these people, not even their name. The press love it and it makes for good fodder on social media, but their fame (or infamy) is what often inspires copycats, and actually increases the risk of future events.

As for Paddock's brother, I felt some sympathy for him. He is trying to process something no one possibly could. People always want to find a link to some such organisation or motive they can make sense of, but sometimes the truth is far more chilling, and he touched on it in the interview- people can be random, chaotic, often unpredictable and occasionally capable of unspeakable acts. We've seen this throughout history. Attempts to explain or pigeon-hole it might make us feel better, but stopping it is another matter entirely.
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I don't think his brother is short of a dollar to start with

I don't blame the guy for his twisted ramblings, his head is all over the place at present

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Originally posted by TIGER TIGER wrote:

I don't think his brother is short of a dollar to start with

I don't blame the guy for his twisted ramblings, his head is all over the place at present



Exactly Tiger .     Just imagine.       Certainly a hard one emerging.

If mental illness is the sole cause , it is unusual that some evidence hasn't emerged previously in his life.

Apart from his reclusive traits , nothing so far.
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Psychopaths have very low Empathy levels.

This happens generally from one or two origins.

1: The parent desensitised the baby/child, by not hugging when the baby cried.
Think, English Supernanny, who had a show promoting that when a baby is crying you should leave the room, ignore the baby. What this does is 'dishonour" feelings. Creates a non feeling child. The fastest path towards raising a psychopath.

2: Culture and society: Use Terrorism as example. Again, I mention England here. They are normalising Terrorism, by saying, just get on with life, etc. Its a form of Desensitization.
English are infamous for being Passive. Unable to express.
Americans have a largely desensitised nation, due to it being the birth place of so many violent films etc. They normalised violence.

Paddock most likely represents both of the aforementioned.
He would have been raised to be a non feeling person.

To have low empathy levels, means you dont feel either peoples pain, nor joy.
You dont have heightened emotion levels.

Its perfectly normal and HEALTHY to have rollercoaster emotions.
But our culture has been drumming that out of our own species.
Be "non feeling".

What are you when you are Non feeling?
You have low empathy.
And low empathy equates to being a psychopath.

It doesnt matter that Paddock gave his girlfriend money, or that he was a pilot, or rich etc, for NONE of those things have anything to do with Empathy.

Paddock, is a psychopath, with no empathy, and Im hasten to add, but from interviews Ive seen of his brother, he has very very low empathy levels too.
They are the product of unloving parents.

As the saying goes, sometimes in life its the people you least expect.
Successful on the outside, but a low empathy psychopath on the inside.

People will come out with a string of excuses that relate to Conspiracy theories, gun control, and all that garbage.
But based purely on his brothers interview, its as plain as the light of day, that they are the product of unloving parents and have zero empathy levels.

They are the types that draw the curtains, keep to themselves, for they are not there to LAUGH WITH YOU, NOR CRY WITH YOU. They barely exist in the emotional world, for they have none.
I guarantee their neighbours barely knew them, for the Paddocks arent there to celebrate your EMOTIONS.

And here is the hyper scary part, England the past year, due to culture, has just raised millions of non feelers.
"Press along ole chap, just a terror attack".

Hyper hyper dangerous.

the birth and rise of the non empathisers.

You gotta get ANGRY
You gotta get sad
You gotta laugh.
You gotta cry

You gotta FEEL

If you are pushed to not FEEL life, you are on the verge of being the next major psychopath, just like the Paddocks.

In Hungary, you can own a gun. Why arent there mass shootings?????
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by TIGER TIGER wrote:

I don't think his brother is short of a dollar to start with

I don't blame the guy for his twisted ramblings, his head is all over the place at present



Exactly Tiger .     Just imagine.       Certainly a hard one emerging.

If mental illness is the sole cause , it is unusual that some evidence hasn't emerged previously in his life.

Apart from his reclusive traits , nothing so far.

Tiger you said it better in 2 lines than I did in postings. Thumbs Up




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1. above - the father was a ratbag and the kids were all bad, all got in trouble, according to the brother ... seems like the ingredients were there.

Brother comes across as an egotist who is just about to "pop" himself ... he's liking the spot light too much for me.

Girlfriend and Brother will both make a fortune from this, even though the brother maintains "money means nothing to them" ... just another high roller to die with all his fortune intact? ... or was he on a "lean run" and the book and movie deals will be the "super fund" for the girlfriend and family? ... brother kept saying that the truth will be known if they talk to the casino operators.

or, just another Radical Islamic Terrorist ...?

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one of the brothers had a history of crime...not the worst crimes, but some were serious enough like arson.
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All a guess at the moment Doc.   

I'm opting for a crazy, who has been a bubbling Volcano for zonks.

Well known that Psychopaths are masters of playing their role to perfection , making them difficult to detect.

Another Madman from a Society where 20% require help at some time in their life.
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I was walking through a shopping mall yesterday, and passed a bloke covered in tattoos, who was raving and ranting like a mad thing, about nothing in particular, seemingly. Such is the modern mental health system. Recently I saw a bloke running at cars as if attempting to be hit, he nearly was in the short time I saw him. Plenty on the loose that should not be.
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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

I was walking through a shopping mall yesterday, and passed a bloke covered in tattoos, who was raving and ranting like a mad thing, about nothing in particular, seemingly. Such is the modern mental health system. Recently I saw a bloke running at cars as if attempting to be hit, he nearly was in the short time I saw him. Plenty on the loose that should not be.


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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

I was walking through a shopping mall yesterday, and passed a bloke covered in tattoos, who was raving and ranting like a mad thing, about nothing in particular, seemingly. Such is the modern mental health system. Recently I saw a bloke running at cars as if attempting to be hit, he nearly was in the short time I saw him. Plenty on the loose that should not be.


the mental health system is dire. hopelessly under resourced...their just isnt the favilities to cater for mental health patients. psychologists visits should be covered by medicare...not just a few visits that is currently the case. mental health units in hospitals are easy to circumvent by peopl admitted to them...basically a serious of questions determines whether you stay or are released. if you arent suicidal ...i.e....you tell the staffer that you arent...you are almost certainly released.
suicidal admissions are sent to ICU . surely every hospital should have its own wing or ward for such patients. try getting public health support for anorexia...its almost non existant.
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Of course, as could be predicted, the ABC has yet again come out to criticise Trump and US gunlaws.
They criticise Trump wherever they can connect him with the shooting.

But that doesnt explain why in Hungary with similar liberal gun laws, where nearly every family has or knows someone with a hunting rifle, have zero incidents happening.

When will the English speaking world realise that its NOT the laws that are wrong, its the violent culture they push through television and films, mixed in with a healthy dollop of a dodgy education system??

Not to mention a fractured multi-cultural society that has no cohesion with a lot of isolated and disenfranchised citizens and a mental health system that is obviously not working at many levels.
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i remember when spelling was important in job interviews too Maccamax -   Tatoo's Wink

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Originally posted by Redemption Redemption wrote:

Of course, as could be predicted, the ABC has yet again come out to criticise Trump and US gunlaws.
They criticise Trump wherever they can connect him with the shooting.

But that doesnt explain why in Hungary with similar liberal gun laws, where nearly every family has or knows someone with a hunting rifle, have zero incidents happening.

When will the English speaking world realise that its NOT the laws that are wrong, its the violent culture they push through television and films, mixed in with a healthy dollop of a dodgy education system??

Not to mention a fractured multi-cultural society that has no cohesion with a lot of isolated and disenfranchised citizens and a mental health system that is obviously not working at many levels.

SO since Port Arthur when our gun laws were tightened, was our movie viewing, Multicultural background and mental heath policies change as well ? 

We have similar social issues as the US on a far smaller scale yet we do not have a comparable gun crime issue.




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Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

I was walking through a shopping mall yesterday, and passed a bloke covered in tattoos, who was raving and ranting like a mad thing, about nothing in particular, seemingly. Such is the modern mental health system. Recently I saw a bloke running at cars as if attempting to be hit, he nearly was in the short time I saw him. Plenty on the loose that should not be.


the mental health system is dire. hopelessly under resourced...their just isnt the favilities to cater for mental health patients. psychologists visits should be covered by medicare...not just a few visits that is currently the case. mental health units in hospitals are easy to circumvent by peopl admitted to them...basically a serious of questions determines whether you stay or are released. if you arent suicidal ...i.e....you tell the staffer that you arent...you are almost certainly released.
suicidal admissions are sent to ICU . surely every hospital should have its own wing or ward for such patients. try getting public health support for anorexia...its almost non existant.

Crikeys, I agree with you. It almost sounds like socialism.




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