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    Posted: 08 Jun 2018 at 5:03pm
Been mentioned on here before, probably too often.  Embarrassed  

Has had three to race for three winners, has an unraced 2yo brother to stakes-winner Justify That with Ciaron Maher and a yearling colt by Cluster bred 3 x 3 Danehill and 4 x 4 x 4 to Bletchingly with Danny Williams.

It's almost certainly her last season at stud this year, so it's probably your last chance to suggest her final mating.  Maximum stud fee around a negotiated 14k but hopefully rather less.

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Bloody big owner for Yulong January.




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Moshe (AUS)
Bay or brown 2007
Bel Esprit
Bay 1999
Royal Academy
Bay 1987
Nijinsky
Bay 1967
Northern Dancer
Flaming Page
1961
1959
2-d
8-f
Crimson Saint
Chestnut 1969
Crimson Satan
Bolero Rose
1959
1958
26>
8-c
Bespoken
Brown 1990
Vain
Chestnut 1966
Wilkes
Elated
1952
1957
13-c
A10
Vin d'Amour
Bay 1981
Adios
Gliteren
1970
1969
6-f
34>
Helsinge
Bay 2001
Desert Sun
Bay 1988
Green Desert
Bay 1983
Danzig
Foreign Courier
1977
1979
7-a
A4
Solar
Chestnut 1973
Hotfoot
L'Anguissola
1966
1967
1-w
10-b
Scandinavia
Chestnut 1994
Snippets
Bay 1984
Lunchtime
Easy Date
1970
1977
7-f
20-a
Song of Norway
Grey 1982
Vain
Love Song
1966
1976
A10
1-p
Duty With Honour (AUS)
Bay 1999
West Point
Bay 1993
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Quarantieme
Chestnut 1985
Bletchingly
Brown 1970
Biscay
Coogee
1965
1959
2-o
7-a
Dancelot
Chestnut 1972
Vain
Hot Rhythm
1966
1967
A10
22-c
Abbondanza
Bay 1990
Century
Brown 1969
Better Boy
Bay 1951
My Babu
Better So
1945
1944
1-w
2-n
Royal Suite
Brown 1960
Rego
Baraganda
1949
1948
5-d
20>
Bounteous
Bay 1982
Bletchingly
Brown 1970
Biscay
Coogee
1965
1959
2-o
7-a
Vana
Bay 1963
Orgoglio
Rarcamba
1949
1946
23-a
A10
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer5m x 5m Vain4f,5f x 5f Danzig5m x 4m 
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Second Chance, Would Moshe be any chance of serving your wonderful servant ? I do like that pedigree. 




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Gee Djebel I'd try to get a deal with Magnus before Moshe.  But yes I'd be looking for more Vain to cross to Vana.  Some interesting Redoute's line ones with Swear, Va Pensiero, Counterattack and Stratum Star but yes most aren't in Vic and she old enough not to want to travel.  Pity the closest cross would be Denman.  Whatever you decide hope your lucky enough that she carries the foal and it's a filly.  Fingers crossed for you.
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A possibility Djebel, and thanks for your suggestion.
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Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

Gee Djebel I'd try to get a deal with Magnus before Moshe.  But yes I'd be looking for more Vain to cross to Vana.  Some interesting Redoute's line ones with Swear, Va Pensiero, Counterattack and Stratum Star but yes most aren't in Vic and she old enough not to want to travel.  Pity the closest cross would be Denman.  Whatever you decide hope your lucky enough that she carries the foal and it's a filly.  Fingers crossed for you.

He was on the tip of my tongue but just could not remember who I was trying to think of Big smile Beer Handshake

He is $22,000 so might be out of the ball park.

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Magnus (AUS)
Bay 2002
Flying Spur
Bay 1992
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Rolls
Chestnut 1984
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Gold Digger
1961
1962
8-f
13-c
Grand Luxe
Chestnut 1974
Sir Ivor
Fanfreluche
1965
1967
8-g
4-g
Scandinavia
Chestnut 1994
Snippets
Bay 1984
Lunchtime
Chestnut 1970
Silly Season
Great Occasion
1962
1965
1-g
7-f
Easy Date
Bay 1977
Grand Chaudiere
Scampering
1968
1970
19-b
20-a
Song of Norway
Grey 1982
Vain
Chestnut 1966
Wilkes
Elated
1952
1957
13-c
A10
Love Song
Grey 1976
Warpath
Folk Song
1969
1968
21-a
1-p
Duty With Honour (AUS)
Bay 1999
West Point
Bay 1993
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Quarantieme
Chestnut 1985
Bletchingly
Brown 1970
Biscay
Coogee
1965
1959
2-o
7-a
Dancelot
Chestnut 1972
Vain
Hot Rhythm
1966
1967
A10
22-c
Abbondanza
Bay 1990
Century
Brown 1969
Better Boy
Bay 1951
My Babu
Better So
1945
1944
1-w
2-n
Royal Suite
Brown 1960
Rego
Baraganda
1949
1948
5-d
20>
Bounteous
Bay 1982
Bletchingly
Brown 1970
Biscay
Coogee
1965
1959
2-o
7-a
Vana
Bay 1963
Orgoglio
Rarcamba
1949
1946
23-a
A10
 Ancestor duplications:Danehill3m x 3m Vain4f x 5f Bletchinglyx 4f,4f


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Have been offered $13,750 about Magnus (advertised fee $19,800) on a live foal basis, so he's well and truly in the mix.

But keep those suggestions coming!
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Instead of Moshe, Bel Esprit is back in Victoria well within the price range I would suggest.

The horse has well and truly bolted, but Written Tycoon seems an ideal match.  On that basis though, Rich Enuff could be considered.  The pedigree is interesting, but I wonder if the stallion really has the pedigree to make it.

Although there is a bit of travelling involved, one old stallion that would be worth considering is Testa Rossa.  His son Unencumbered is another along the same line, but the jury is out on his future.

The least expensive option to be considered is Onemorenomore.  It looks a pretty solid if unremarkable pedigree but I suspect the likely progeny would be a reasonable racing prospect.

The standout for me, if you like a risk, is no doubt Impending who will be standing in Victoria next season.  It looks a lovely pedigree with a lot of positives.  Although he is over the budget, a mare that has produced a stakes winner to a first season sire in such a competitive market must be a good point of leverage.  That could all change if he wins the Stradbroke tomorrow for the second time, but probably less important standing in Victoria rather than Qld.
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I assumed Bel Esprit would be too expensive. 


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Impending (AUS)
Bay 2013
Lonhro
Brown 1998
Octagonal
Brown 1992
Zabeel
Bay 1986
Sir Tristram
Lady Giselle
1971
1982
6-e
16-c
Eight Carat
Brown 1975
Pieces of Eight
Klairessa
1963
1969
3-o
9-c
Shadea
Bay 1988
Straight Strike
Bay or brown 1977
Mr Prospector
Bend Not
1970
1972
13-c
11>
Concia
Bay 1978
First Consul
My Tricia
1970
1974
5-f
8>
Mnemosyne
Bay 2002
Encosta de Lago
Bay 1993
Fairy King
Bay 1982
Northern Dancer
Fairy Bridge
1961
1975
2-d
5-h
Shoal Creek
Chestnut 1988
Star Way
Rolls
1977
1984
6-e
4-g
My Juliet
Bay 1995
Canny Lad
Brown 1987
Bletchingly
Jesmond Lass
1970
1975
7-a
14>
Perfect Draw
Chestnut 1988
Whiskey Road
Proud Draw
1972
1980
4-d
13-a
Duty With Honour (AUS)
Bay 1999
West Point
Bay 1993
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Quarantieme
Chestnut 1985
Bletchingly
Brown 1970
Biscay
Coogee
1965
1959
2-o
7-a
Dancelot
Chestnut 1972
Vain
Hot Rhythm
1966
1967
A10
22-c
Abbondanza
Bay 1990
Century
Brown 1969
Better Boy
Bay 1951
My Babu
Better So
1945
1944
1-w
2-n
Royal Suite
Brown 1960
Rego
Baraganda
1949
1948
5-d
20>
Bounteous
Bay 1982
Bletchingly
Brown 1970
Biscay
Coogee
1965
1959
2-o
7-a
Vana
Bay 1963
Orgoglio
Rarcamba
1949
1946
23-a
A10
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer5m x 5m Bletchingly5m x 4f,4f


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Rich Enuff (AUS)
Chestnut 2011
Written Tycoon
Chestnut 2002
Iglesia
Brown 1995
Last Tycoon
Bay or brown 1983
Try My Best
Mill Princess
1975
1977
8-f
8-c
Yodells
Chestnut 1988
Marscay
Yodelling Lady
1979
1979
4-m
1-c
Party Miss
Brown 1991
Kenmare
Grey 1975
Kalamoun
Belle of Ireland
1970
1964
9-c
1-m
Miss Entertainer
Chestnut 1975
Vain
Viveza
1966
1967
A10
18>
Hotnuff
Bay 2001
Spartacus
Chestnut 1993
Snippets
Bay 1984
Lunchtime
Easy Date
1970
1977
7-f
20-a
Pazzihi
Bay 1979
Manihi
Pastel
1964
1970
1-n
22-a
Scalding Hot
Brown 1993
Bureaucracy
Brown 1987
Lord Ballina
Tulla Doll
1979
1974
2-c
1-o
Scalding
Bay 1978
Ballyhot
Tullette
1968
1966
13-e
13-b
Duty With Honour (AUS)
Bay 1999
West Point
Bay 1993
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Quarantieme
Chestnut 1985
Bletchingly
Brown 1970
Biscay
Coogee
1965
1959
2-o
7-a
Dancelot
Chestnut 1972
Vain
Hot Rhythm
1966
1967
A10
22-c
Abbondanza
Bay 1990
Century
Brown 1969
Better Boy
Bay 1951
My Babu
Better So
1945
1944
1-w
2-n
Royal Suite
Brown 1960
Rego
Baraganda
1949
1948
5-d
20>
Bounteous
Bay 1982
Bletchingly
Brown 1970
Biscay
Coogee
1965
1959
2-o
7-a
Vana
Bay 1963
Orgoglio
Rarcamba
1949
1946
23-a
A10
 Ancestor duplications:Vain5f x 5f Bletchinglyx 4f,4f


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Testa Rossa (AUS)
Bay 1996
Perugino
Bay or brown 1991
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Pas de Nom
Bay or brown 1968
Admiral's Voyage
Petitioner
1959
1952
4-n
7-a
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Bay 1968
Hail to Reason
Lalun
1958
1952
4-n
19-b
Special
Bay 1969
Forli
Thong
1963
1964
3-b
5-h
Bo Dapper
Bay 1985
Sir Dapper
Bay 1980
Vain
Chestnut 1966
Wilkes
Elated
1952
1957
13-c
A10
Sikri
Bay 1967
Golden Plume
Miss Sikri
1960
1963
19-b
C25
Bodega
Bay 1973
Without Fear
Bay 1967
Baldric
Never Too Late
1961
1957
13-c
4-c
Salon
Brown 1964
Fortino
Soiree
1959
1953
4-r
1-w
Duty With Honour (AUS)
Bay 1999
West Point
Bay 1993
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Quarantieme
Chestnut 1985
Bletchingly
Brown 1970
Biscay
Coogee
1965
1959
2-o
7-a
Dancelot
Chestnut 1972
Vain
Hot Rhythm
1966
1967
A10
22-c
Abbondanza
Bay 1990
Century
Brown 1969
Better Boy
Bay 1951
My Babu
Better So
1945
1944
1-w
2-n
Royal Suite
Brown 1960
Rego
Baraganda
1949
1948
5-d
20>
Bounteous
Bay 1982
Bletchingly
Brown 1970
Biscay
Coogee
1965
1959
2-o
7-a
Vana
Bay 1963
Orgoglio
Rarcamba
1949
1946
23-a
A10
 Ancestor duplications:Danzig3m x 4m Vain4m x 5f Bletchinglyx 4f,4f


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Onemorenomore (AUS)
Bay 2006
Red Ransom
Bay 1987
Roberto
Bay 1969
Hail to Reason
Brown 1958
Turn-To
Nothirdchance
1951
1948
1-w
4-n
Bramalea
Bay or brown 1959
Nashua
Rarelea
1952
1949
3-m
12-c
Arabia
Bay 1977
Damascus
Bay 1964
Sword Dancer
Kerala
1956
1958
1-o
8-h
Christmas Wind
Bay 1967
Nearctic
Bally Free
1954
1960
14-c
6-b
Palia
Bay 1994
Last Tycoon
Bay or brown 1983
Try My Best
Bay 1975
Northern Dancer
Sex Appeal
1961
1970
2-d
8-f
Mill Princess
Bay 1977
Mill Reef
Irish Lass
1968
1962
22-d
8-c
Kew Gardens
Bay 1981
Kenmare
Grey 1975
Kalamoun
Belle of Ireland
1970
1964
9-c
1-m
Garden Green
Bay 1964
Pinturischio
Focal
1958
1959
4-r
21-a
Duty With Honour (AUS)
Bay 1999
West Point
Bay 1993
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Quarantieme
Chestnut 1985
Bletchingly
Brown 1970
Biscay
Coogee
1965
1959
2-o
7-a
Dancelot
Chestnut 1972
Vain
Hot Rhythm
1966
1967
A10
22-c
Abbondanza
Bay 1990
Century
Brown 1969
Better Boy
Bay 1951
My Babu
Better So
1945
1944
1-w
2-n
Royal Suite
Brown 1960
Rego
Baraganda
1949
1948
5-d
20>
Bounteous
Bay 1982
Bletchingly
Brown 1970
Biscay
Coogee
1965
1959
2-o
7-a
Vana
Bay 1963
Orgoglio
Rarcamba
1949
1946
23-a
A10
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer5m x 5m Bletchinglyx 4f,4f


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Unencumbered (AUS)
Bay or brown 2011
Testa Rossa
Bay 1996
Perugino
Bay or brown 1991
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Bo Dapper
Bay 1985
Sir Dapper
Bay 1980
Vain
Sikri
1966
1967
A10
C25
Bodega
Bay 1973
Without Fear
Salon
1967
1964
4-c
1-w
Blizzardly
Bay 2002
More Than Ready
Bay or brown 1997
Southern Halo
Bay 1983
Halo
Northern Sea
1969
1974
2-d
16-g
Woodman's Girl
Bay 1990
Woodman
Becky Be Good
1983
1981
1-s
1-s
Concise
Chestnut 1992
Marscay
Chestnut 1979
Biscay
Heart of Market
1965
1967
2-o
4-m
Sober Dancer
Bay 1985
Noalcoholic
Crystal Dancer
1977
1978
16-g
1-s
Duty With Honour (AUS)
Bay 1999
West Point
Bay 1993
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Quarantieme
Chestnut 1985
Bletchingly
Brown 1970
Biscay
Coogee
1965
1959
2-o
7-a
Dancelot
Chestnut 1972
Vain
Hot Rhythm
1966
1967
A10
22-c
Abbondanza
Bay 1990
Century
Brown 1969
Better Boy
Bay 1951
My Babu
Better So
1945
1944
1-w
2-n
Royal Suite
Brown 1960
Rego
Baraganda
1949
1948
5-d
20>
Bounteous
Bay 1982
Bletchingly
Brown 1970
Biscay
Coogee
1965
1959
2-o
7-a
Vana
Bay 1963
Orgoglio
Rarcamba
1949
1946
23-a
A10
 Ancestor duplications:Danzig4m x 4m Vain5m x 5f Biscay5m x 5m,5m 
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Written Tycoon (AUS)
Chestnut 2002
Iglesia
Brown 1995
Last Tycoon
Bay or brown 1983
Try My Best
Bay 1975
Northern Dancer
Sex Appeal
1961
1970
2-d
8-f
Mill Princess
Bay 1977
Mill Reef
Irish Lass
1968
1962
22-d
8-c
Yodells
Chestnut 1988
Marscay
Chestnut 1979
Biscay
Heart of Market
1965
1967
2-o
4-m
Yodelling Lady
Chestnut 1979
Paris Review
Alpine Pass
1972
1970
1-l
1-c
Party Miss
Brown 1991
Kenmare
Grey 1975
Kalamoun
Grey 1970
Zeddaan
Khairunissa
1965
1960
11-g
9-c
Belle of Ireland
Chestnut 1964
Milesian
Belle of the Ball
1953
1958
22-a
1-m
Miss Entertainer
Chestnut 1975
Vain
Chestnut 1966
Wilkes
Elated
1952
1957
13-c
A10
Viveza
Brown 1967
Better Boy
Emerald Fire
1951
1961
2-n
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Duty With Honour (AUS)
Bay 1999
West Point
Bay 1993
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Quarantieme
Chestnut 1985
Bletchingly
Brown 1970
Biscay
Coogee
1965
1959
2-o
7-a
Dancelot
Chestnut 1972
Vain
Hot Rhythm
1966
1967
A10
22-c
Abbondanza
Bay 1990
Century
Brown 1969
Better Boy
Bay 1951
My Babu
Better So
1945
1944
1-w
2-n
Royal Suite
Brown 1960
Rego
Baraganda
1949
1948
5-d
20>
Bounteous
Bay 1982
Bletchingly
Brown 1970
Biscay
Coogee
1965
1959
2-o
7-a
Vana
Bay 1963
Orgoglio
Rarcamba
1949
1946
23-a
A10
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  Better Boy5f x 4m Bletchinglyx 4f,4f


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Unencumbered is unfortunately a dead-cert.
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Bel Esprit stood for $11000 at his last season in Qld, so I gather will be around the same price returning to Victoria.  The family of Impending shows his 4th dam as Proud Draw, a daughter of Vain which isn't shown in the pedigree above.  Proud Draw was related to Drawn who was a favourite in the mid 80's, winning three G1's in the Caulfield and Rosehill Guineas, and the All Aged Stakes.  At stud, he was a bit of a flop, siring only 1 SW in Smart Alex who won the Qld Cup in 1996 but was a good local galloper at the time.  Tend to remember Drawn best as the sire of All Drawn who was a half sister to All Our Mob, and All Stormy who is coincidentally the grand-dam of The Monstar who lines up in tomorrow's Stradbroke against Impending.
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from memory Bel Esprit 11 grand this year before negotiations.
Star-back in Mon. Dynasty retired.Rebel - close to first race. Riverman -trial in 12 days, Attie -spell, Lionel and Brandy - start pre-training tomorrow.
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posted 16 seconds apart Djebel.
Star-back in Mon. Dynasty retired.Rebel - close to first race. Riverman -trial in 12 days, Attie -spell, Lionel and Brandy - start pre-training tomorrow.
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I thought something had happened to Unencumbered but he isn't listed as being deceased on the Stud Book.  Probably should cross him off the list then.

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El cheapos Von Costa De Hero is very nice & this guy Redente would be sensational to some & far too close for others LOL Neither giving the option to sell tho'.

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Checking out Redente, his fee surprisingly has almost doubled in the last couple of seasons from $2200 to $3850.  Rather oddly, none of his progeny have ever raced in a black type race from what I can find.
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Magnus: no longer an option following advice about his condition from a good judge.
Bel Esprit: stands with the above and they'd most likely send me away after booking and then passing up on Magnus. 
I Am Invincible: lovely match but needed to go there about four years ago.
Impending: nice enough but booked out and I'd probably be over-breeding the mare anyway.
Redente great but commercial suicide.

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Manhattan Rain? There might be a few nice ingredients in that match
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Probably a bit expensive, but Highland Reel offers a different mating but one with plenty of positives.  The added advantage is that he is likely to be the best racehorse standing in Victoria and perhaps Australia.
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Originally posted by Progold Progold wrote:

Probably a bit expensive, but Highland Reel offers a different mating but one with plenty of positives.  The added advantage is that he is likely to be the best racehorse standing in Victoria and perhaps Australia.

Elvis and Haradasun’s moderate success don’t deter you? What sort of mares do you think are his best bet?
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What about Squomosa  ? I know same stud as Magnus  but is a sire just starting to show great promise .
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Winning Rupert has Vain and Kenmare through Written Tycoon, he knew how to find the line?
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