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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TIGER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Feb 2019 at 8:14pm
So posts get deleted

Nice rules
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Originally posted by TIGER TIGER wrote:

So posts get deleted

Nice rules

Really?

Jeez that’s not fair mods, you leave up all his posts that make him look like a goose,and delete his only good one?
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Assuming there was a good one, of course
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Geez,  I bin waiting since Gays post about the Zim gold mine for Rusty to ask us do we know the diff in SA and Zim, and he let me down Wink  Must have skimmed right over his cranium.  Cry
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TIGER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Feb 2019 at 8:45am
Like water off a ducks back
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Over 1,250 hippos will meet their bloody end at the hands of South African hunters in Zambia, in April

George Tubei , Business Insider SA
 Feb 20, 2019, 12:32 PM

ZAMBIA - 2014/06/19: A group of Hippopotamus (Hipp
A group of Hippopotami on the shore of the Luangwa River in South Luangwa National Park in eastern Zambia. (Photo by Wolfgang Kaehler/LightRocket via Getty Images)
  • The adventure firm is currently offering Luangwa hippo packages at R200 000 for 5 hippos per hunter.
  • Zambia Government’s relentless push for the hunt to take place is reportedly an attempted cover-up for an alleged contract-gone-wrong.
  • Hippos are currently listed as "Vulnerable" on the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN) Red List.

More than 1,250 hippopotami living in the valley are about to meet their bloody and gruesome end at the hands of South African game hunters who are eagerly awaiting the end of the Zambian rainy season in April to begin the killing-spree.

The controversial hunt has been approved again by Zambia's Department of National Parks and Wildlife (DNPW), according to Conservation Action Trust.

The ‘cull’, which has been suspended a number of times since 2015 because of international conservation pressure, coupled with the fact that also Zambia's own scientific research has advised against it, noting that previous culls have only served to increase the population growth rate, is set to go ahead regardless of the global backlash.

Financial gain remains the biggest drawcard behind the mass hippo killing.

"Hippo lives are on the line in order to line the pockets of a few hunting operators and government officials," says Born Free president, Will Travers.

In 2015, the now-defunct Zambian Wildlife Authority (ZAWA) signed a culling contract with a South African hunting outfitter, Mabwe Adventures Limited. The contract is shrouded in secrecy and did not go through a public tendering process.

The adventure firm is currently offering Luangwa hippo packages at R200 000 for 5 hippos per hunter. The cull could generate upward of R45 million for hunters and the Zambian government.

Zambian Minister of Tourism and Arts Charles Banda, however, confirmed in 2018 that the contract was still valid.

Zambia Government’s relentless push for the hunt to take place is reportedly an attempted cover-up for an alleged contract-gone-wrong.

However, the slaughter could have far-reaching consequences for Zambia as a developing country.

Born Free Foundation have already engaged with the UK Government asking them to use their influence to seek a commitment from Zambia to call off cull - a move likely to be welcomed by the 158 MPs who signed the Early Day Motion 1829, calling on the UK government to end the import of hunting trophies.

Last year, UK taxpayers sent £45 million (R827 million) to Zambia to assist with poverty relief, education and school meals.

Chiefs and the local community where the cull is due to take place, as well as local safari operators, are also opposed to the move fearing a tourism backlash against the impending mass-slaughter.

"The justifications for this cull - which is being openly marketed to paying trophy hunters - are like a sea of shifting sand," says Born Free president, Will Travers.

"Originally, it was to prevent an outbreak of anthrax. Then it was because the water levels in the Luangwa River were precariously low. Now it is because there is a perceived hippo over-population. None of these 'justifications' stands up to scrutiny."

Hippos are currently listed as "Vulnerable" on the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN) Red List and populations are far from stable with only approximately 130 000 left in the wild.

Over 7,300 kgs of hippo tusks and teeth were internationally traded in 2018 alone - a 64-fold increase since 2007.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rusty nails Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Feb 2019 at 11:33am
Why would anyone pay R200k to shoot 5 hippo?

It would literally being like shooting fish in a barrel.

There is no hunting involved, you just wander down the river and pick out which ones you going to kill.

You could literally shoot your 5 hippo within minutes of arriving at the river.
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Thats what I thought too ?   What sport is that ????Wacko  Its like the hunting on game farms where the animal is bred to be shot.  They just drive out and shoot it, and call themselves hunters !!  Sickos is more like it.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Sickening



Look at the bottom.  Hunting Legends Censored
That is just sickening. 
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Everyone has redeeming features. I don't give a damn , they should be shot like the scum they are
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TIGER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Feb 2019 at 4:26pm
Didn't know you were a hunter Whale

Agree100% shoot the maggots

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Must say, I tend to agree with Tiger on this one. 
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“Copied from community member in Plett South Africa”

I sit here in my private office, the generator purring in the background. I ponder our plight after four electricity blackouts in two days. I invested in a generator some years ago because I saw the trajectory and I prepared myself for this moment, hoping it would never arrive. Yesterday I went to buy some petrol for the generator and was unable to transact because the power outage had caused the internet network to become unstable. This forced me to find a different petrol station, but the roads were gridlocked by dead traffic lights so the journey was arduous and not without risk.

This is but a foretaste of things to come because we have allowed the State to encourage the wholesale looting of coffers to enrich a new criminal elite. Through poor financial management we have allowed Eskom debt to balloon to such an extent that sovereign guarantees by Treasury, if ever called in, could trigger the domino effect of total financial collapse of the sovereign. Just recently I met with a senior banker and we discussed our plight. I told him that our model is simple - 5 million taxpayers are being held to ransom by less than 1 million card-carrying Cadres at the expense of the 55 million citizens now doomed to a life of perpetual misery in abject poverty. He corrected me, because we only have 200,000 taxpayers that carry 80% of the total tax burden.

That bite of the reality sandwich opened my eyes!

In short, we as a nation, are held hostage to debt that we didn't create, controlled by a criminal elite with absolute impunity that we cannot remove. We are a nation of hostages, and like the Stockholm Syndrome that happens when a hostage starts to feel an affection or affinity for their captors, we have allowed our sense of outrage to be numbed.

We are poisoned by the Stockholm Syndrome so we feel powerless to tackle our hostage-takers.

But they are common criminals, even if they wear glitzy suits and drive in armed motorcades that WE pay for.

We have never asked why powerful elites like Gwede Mantashe could be awarded a contract of over R1.5bn just to feed the workers at Eskom. We have never asked what the impact is of massive diesel contracts to connected cadres to run the standby generators that have been sustaining Eskom over the last few years.

Yes, that's right. Our national energy utility has been running on standby generators at great cost, just as my private office does, but nobody has every asked why; or what will happen when that diesel can no longer be purchased. But the workers will be fed for free and Gwede will smile on TV as he always does, deflecting all blame on the imaginary enemy of the past.

Just this morning I hear news of farmers reaching a point of Gatvol--ness in Middelburg as rioters try to blockade the roads with burning tyres. The way that farmers have been treated, with claims against their legal land title and systematic murders denied by the state, can only be a smouldering powder keg waiting to detonate.

Then I hear of an abandoned coal mine, also in Middelburg, where copper thieves have stolen all the cables, shutting down the fans that keep the mine safe. We know that old coal mines release methane, so its no surprise that a number of cable thieves now lie dead underground after a massive explosion caused by the inability of the mine to run the fans because of loss of energy reticulation. While the loss of life is a tragedy, its even a greater tragedy that those people now dead were forced into activities of such high risk merely to put bread on the table. Even greater is the tragedy for rescue miners who now have to enter that toxic carbon monoxide environment of unstable ground just to retrieve the bodies of the dead.

As a veteran of the time in our history that is colloquially called the "Armed Struggle" I have living memory of moments when we have teetered on the very brink of collapse. Sadly my conscious mind is numbed by the deja vu because I have seen it all before.

I believe that South Africa is again on the very precipice of a catastrophe of unprecedented proportions as I brace myself for the horrors I believe will come. What will happen when the pumps needed to sustain the supply of water to Gauteng where 45% of the population live, and 65% of the economy is located, can no longer turn? What will happen when our few remaining Waste Water Treatment Works are unable to process the masses of sewage they receive daily, forcing them to release this into the few remaining rivers that are not already contaminated by lethal pathogens? What will happen when disease breaks out in the Vaal Triangle where raw sewage has been flowing through the streets for years, and doctors discover that a new drug resistant bacteria is running rampant? What will happen when Rand Water and Umgeni Water and Magalies Water and Mhlatuze Water are also declared bankrupt because of non-payment by delinquent municipalities that have been allowed to also become mired in the Venus Fly Trap of spiralling debt?

These things are too ghastly to contemplate, so we cannot go there. We simply cannot allow that to happen.

Now is the time to unite as only South Africans can in time of crisis, and once again pull back from the precipice. Now is the time to create an Unstoppable Movement for Positive Change.

My generator drones on in constant reminder of the surreal experience we are all confronted by. Life goes on but we shall overcome! Remember it's the Stockholm Syndrome that has numbed us into passive submission, so we do have the capacity to fight back.

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Great post Gay.
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Should have put his money into solar panels.
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BREAKING NEWS: South Africa's national debt went through the R3 trillion mark today. Each man, woman and child in this country owes R55 276! The interest we pay is now R170 billion per annum.

It is time to remove the ANC regime on 8 May.


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Its National Debt is the 17th highest in the world.

The EU and the USA head the pack re highest debt.  Australia is 13th.
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