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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

I enjoy Mencken. He certainly has a gift for compressing ideas into short, memorable phrases. Perhaps he held some opinions that might seem “unenlightened” by today’s standards, but that’s a charge you could level at quite a few historical figures.

And probably more unfair with Mencken, as he seemed to pretty much not like anyone.


Some?LOL The man was a racist, extreme Social Darwinist who hated the poor, democracy, Jews, America, but loved Germany and the Prussian ruling class and didn't mind the Nazis.Wink
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With someone so prolific, you need to be careful cherry picking singular quotes. Gore Vidal:

Far from being an anti-Semite, Mencken was one of the first journalists to denounce the persecution of the Jews in Germany at a time when The New York Times, say, was notoriously reticent. On November 27, 1938, Mencken writes (Baltimore Sun), "It is to be hoped that the poor Jews now being robbed and mauled in Germany will not take too seriously the plans of various politicians to rescue them." He then reviews the various schemes to "rescue" the Jews from the Nazis, who had not yet announced their own final solution.[52]

As Germany gradually conquered Europe, Mencken attacked President Roosevelt for refusing to admit Jewish refugees into the United States and called for their wholesale admission:

There is only one way to help the fugitives, and that is to find places for them in a country in which they can really live. Why shouldn't the United States take in a couple hundred thousand of them, or even all of them?[53]


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"The Jews could be put down very plausibly as the most unpleasant race ever heard of. As commonly encountered, they lack many of the qualities that mark the civilized man: courage, dignity, incorruptibility, ease, confidence. They have vanity without pride, voluptuousness without taste, and learning without wisdom. Their fortitude, such as it is, is wasted upon puerile objects, and their charity is mainly a form of display."
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And that’s a sentiment he disowned.

Again you need to look in a broader context. Churchill once said he was all for gassing “uncivilised tribes” of northern India. How much does that define the man?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ThreeBears Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Aug 2018 at 11:04pm
As I said earlier Tlaz you're a copybook Google expert with no idea on the subject.

And a quote from Gore Vidal on the subject of Mencken's so called anti semitism -

Far from being an anti-Semite, Mencken was one of the first journalists to denounce the persecution of the Jews in Germany at a time when The New York Times, say, was notoriously reticent.
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

And that’s a sentiment he disowned.

Again you need to look in a broader context. Churchill once said he was all for gassing “uncivilised tribes” of northern India. How much does that define the man?


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Presumably from the same place you got the quote:

That passage was removed from subsequent editions at his express direction.
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Presumably from the same place you got the quote:

That passage was removed from subsequent editions at his express direction.


Are you making this up as you go along? Evidence?
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That line comes via wiki from a book on Mencken by Fred Hobson.
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

That line comes via wiki from a book on Mencken by Fred Hobson.
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What? He didn’t? Feel free to correct the record.

In any event, a decade later he was publicly agitating for the resettlement of Jewish refugees in his own country. I for one question his “commitment” to antisemitism.
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In the rebuttal from the Churchill people they say he wouldn't have used gas first but would have second. Does that make it right?
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A superb comedic effort here - Brexit Titanic!


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Tweet of the Year conteder - this is NOT how you bale hay 

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"contender" of course - bl00dy precious keyboard
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And here we have contender number two - 

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And here's the final nomination for today - last but not least


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