So Si Bon

Afros wrote:

Gay3 wrote:

Raised testosterone levels = increased libido, ego & competitiveness. Fighting stallions always go for the legs in an attempt to incapacitate them, exactly as he did.
Rooting was not his intent, simply warding off competition at the height of the mating season.

Is it possible this behavior could become dangerous to the other horses in the race or the jockeys, say if the other bloke reacted and the 2 have a fight? Or will it simply play out as yesterday did without a reaction from the other bloke?

Someone with a better memory than me might remember a horse (I think from Newcastle) who would lead and when challenged for the lead would try to savage the other horse. It was highlighted on national television news after he did it in one of his wins, which was in Sydney.

As far as I know he was allowed to keep racing.

I started with nothing and still have most of it left

Bi Carb wrote:

In the paddock now surely ?

Booked in for gelding, then spell

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As this horse is now barred because of his savaging another horse twice surely he has to be gelded as if it happens again he may be barred from racing altogether!

Sorry, I meant to say he is suspended not barred.

djebel wrote:

The Japanese, who are so far superior in every aspect except jockeyship would not for a second think of gelding him.

As a non-winner, he would’ve been gelded &/or sold out of the country well before the halfway mark of his 4yo season.

djebel wrote:

Red Hare wrote:

djebel wrote:

The Japanese, who are so far superior in every aspect except jockeyship would not for a second think of gelding him.

As a non-winner, he would’ve been gelded &/or sold out of the country well before the halfway mark of his 4yo season.

Don't kid yourself.

They kmow he is better than a "non-winner".

With a different trainer, chances are he wouldn’t be a non winner though

BlackKnight wrote:

scamanda wrote:

Afros wrote:

Gay3 wrote:

Raised testosterone levels = increased libido, ego & competitiveness. Fighting stallions always go for the legs in an attempt to incapacitate them, exactly as he did.
Rooting was not his intent, simply warding off competition at the height of the mating season.

Is it possible this behavior could become dangerous to the other horses in the race or the jockeys, say if the other bloke reacted and the 2 have a fight? Or will it simply play out as yesterday did without a reaction from the other bloke?

Someone with a better memory than me might remember a horse (I think from Newcastle) who would lead and when challenged for the lead would try to savage the other horse. It was highlighted on national television news after he did it in one of his wins, which was in Sydney.

As far as I know he was allowed to keep racing.

Scamanda, I have a vague memory of a horse called Trigger Hill having a go at a couple of horses in the same race at one of the metro tracks in Sydney in about 1990. Not sure if he is the one you are thinking of.

If anyone can get their hands on the story of the great mare Flight and her rival Katanga you will find an interesting parallel there, it's a good story and a pity blinkers were barred at the time although I'm not convinced they would have stopped his shenanigans.

Found his way to Lindsay Park

Weir would have been better.

Still won’t win a G1

I think he will have to start again with the horse Djebel. It must have no idea what to do - appart from liking to take a bit of the other horses. It would challenge any trainer I think.

Should run him fresh in the Kingsford Smith then second up to the Stradbroke.

Then come back in the Spring and target some of the weaker races.

He performs better earlier in his preps where he can let down.

I doubt Laing was doing too much wrong with the horse on the training paddock he was just not reading the horses racetrack efforts correctly.

Be interesting to know what the jockeys thought of the horse.

reductio ad absurdum

Many entires perform way above their Spring efforts, once the breeding season has passed & hopefully he'll be another. I certainly don't see the need for a stint with any breaker Confused

Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!

Good news.

Interested to know what makes him "extremely dangerous"? The attempts to bite Taj Mahal? A complete change of environment, better placement and better handling should sort that out.

Thought of starting a thread on badly placed horses with talent but didn't want to be too negative and besides most of us don't know what issues horses might have (altho that should have little relevance to placement it must be said). This bloke and Denmagic woud be top of the list.