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Afros
Champion Joined: 14 Jan 2009 Status: Offline Points: 15306 |
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He's nominated for the 3 Perth G1s coming up, probably the type of horse that would bob up winning one of them at any old price.
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Shawy38
Champion Joined: 13 Jun 2015 Status: Online Points: 17265 |
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Nominated again this weekend at Sandown for two races
1300m Heffernan Stakes 1500m Sandown Stakes |
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VOYAGER
Champion Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 18699 |
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I think this is the definition of djebel's, throwing darts, racing prep.
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Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise
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Shawy38
Champion Joined: 13 Jun 2015 Status: Online Points: 17265 |
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I actually think Robbie did a better job at placing him than what Hayes has.
Running for the sake of it IMO |
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skippy123
Champion Joined: 07 Dec 2015 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 1526 |
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I missed his race this week- did he bite anyone??
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Shawy38
Champion Joined: 13 Jun 2015 Status: Online Points: 17265 |
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Has been good this prep - now a gelding |
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VOYAGER
Champion Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 18699 |
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No skippy, but not for a lack of trying, as he had a go at Dollar for Dollar right near the line.
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Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise
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Lord Hybrow
Champion Joined: 05 Jul 2015 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 6643 |
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Well he’s found himself as a 3/1 fave for the Gold Bullion over 1400m at Pakenham today.
Can this be the day for that elusive 2nd career win? On paper, yes it is.......but we are talking about SSB, so it’s hard to be confident. |
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Prince of Penzance
Champion Joined: 17 Jan 2018 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 1938 |
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He did have his only win at Pakenham so maybe he will remember how to win when he gets back there.
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djebel
Premium Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Status: Offline Points: 53960 |
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The key is he has been freshened.
1400m might be a tad far but being fresh I expect him to run well. Not backing him at the price though. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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Sister Dot
Premium Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Status: Offline Points: 4878 |
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The gelding doesn’t seem to have had the desired effect?
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“Where in this wide world can man find nobility without pride, friendship without envy, or beauty without vanity? Here where grace is laced with muscle and strength by gentleness confined”
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djebel
Premium Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Status: Offline Points: 53960 |
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They have basically campaigned him in the same manner as previous. He does not seem as hungry as he was as a colt. Gelding is NEVER the true reason a horse switches on. |
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reductio ad absurdum
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Bonfield
Champion Joined: 07 Nov 2013 Status: Offline Points: 10291 |
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Hard to be confident with this horse but is very well weighted under the SWP conditions.
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Gay3
Moderator Group Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Location: Miners Rest Status: Offline Points: 51819 |
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Tom said this morning that when gelded late, they generally come good in their 2nd prep after.
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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djebel
Premium Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Status: Offline Points: 53960 |
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What was his reasoning ? |
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reductio ad absurdum
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Second Chance
Champion Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Status: Offline Points: 45319 |
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Other than bullshyte.
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Gay3
Moderator Group Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Location: Miners Rest Status: Offline Points: 51819 |
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He gave none but did imply it's across the board, so my commonsense & experience assumption tells me temperament has been moulded overs years therefore new learned behaviour, without the effect of testosterone, is likely to take at least a year.
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Second Chance
Champion Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Status: Offline Points: 45319 |
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We usually geld at age 2 or 3, and our experience suggests a two month spell is all that's required to lower testosterone levels sufficiently for a change of attitude and improved performance.
However as suggested it would presumably take longer if a horse wasn't cut until 4 or 5.
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Prince of Penzance
Champion Joined: 17 Jan 2018 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 1938 |
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Once they learn bad habits, it makes it a lot harder to correct.
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Smoke and Mirrors
Champion Joined: 10 Sep 2016 Location: Victoria Status: Offline Points: 1396 |
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Forgotten how to win.
Simple as that, he is just playing games with them. |
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"Go Hard or Go Home”
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Second Chance
Champion Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Status: Offline Points: 45319 |
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His only win was 26 months ago, so it's little surprise he's forgotten how to win.
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Afros
Champion Joined: 14 Jan 2009 Status: Offline Points: 15306 |
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Surely now he goes for a spell and comes back at his natural level? (Perhaps picnics?)
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monty1
Champion Joined: 30 May 2017 Status: Offline Points: 1059 |
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Where is the pussy cat emoji when you need it. 😸 😸 😸 best i can do Edited by Gay3 - 08 Dec 2018 at 8:04pm |
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Gay3
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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WarriSymbol
Champion Joined: 03 Apr 2010 Status: Offline Points: 3169 |
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Bonfield
Champion Joined: 07 Nov 2013 Status: Offline Points: 10291 |
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Every chance. Hard to see him winning another race. Give him to Weir!
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MJB
Champion Joined: 30 Nov 2017 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 1601 |
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What an absolute muncher this thing is!
I didn't back him but l expected him to win or go close at the very least. He was placed perfectly today. Considering the races he's been in lately, that race today was just perfect. And he still was very cat like. He runs the same in any class he competes. He doesn't get disgraced against top horses but when he drops in class he can't even take care of those lesser horses. I wouldn't even be surprised if he couldn't beat 58 rated horses. But run him in a listed race and he'll beat half the field home. What a nightmare. He must be the bookies favourite ever horse. Tom has nothing on this guy. |
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marscay
Champion Joined: 20 May 2011 Status: Offline Points: 5342 |
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Robbie does a mind **** with them they'll never get over.
SP $3.80 |
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Smoke and Mirrors
Champion Joined: 10 Sep 2016 Location: Victoria Status: Offline Points: 1396 |
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1700m Lord Stakes on Boxing Day at listed level
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"Go Hard or Go Home”
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Afros
Champion Joined: 14 Jan 2009 Status: Offline Points: 15306 |
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Surely needs to go low and try find a win? Listed class may be a few rungs to high for him now, worst horse to have a thread with over 10 pages?
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