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So much for Japan...now with C Waller
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Some of the old owners are not very happy, well if you didn’t want her to race for someone else you shouldn’t have sold her.
The new owner can do whatever he likes with her, he paid for her.
can’t see what the big deal is (twitter carrying on as usual)
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Strewth.... Nick Olive is cut to pieces. That interview was hard listening.
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Originally posted by Red Hare Red Hare wrote:

Strewth.... Nick Olive is cut to pieces. That interview was hard listening.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Red Hare Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 10:03am
I was in the car, but there should be one on the website later today.

Main takeaway is that he feels as though he’s let the team down. She was retired as he thought she had no more to give and, I presume, that would’ve factored in to the sale price... bloke also has some concerns for the horse, just to stoke the feels even further.

Waller rang him to give him the news.
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What radio station Red Hare, RSN?
Experience is something you gain a few minutes after you could have used it!
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Spoke to former tnr Nick Olive “Bit of a shock for all of us involved to be honest, we were approched to sell her privately, we decided to sell on the proviso she would be going to Stud in Japan.” None of her original owners now involved


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If he didn’t want her to race on then he shouldn’t have sold her.. plain and simple.
The new owner can do whatever he pleases with her, he does own her!!!!
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The number of older fillies Waller has all suited to the same racing is nauseating


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A simple "not to race again" clause in contract is all it would have taken. Sorry affair for previous owners but that's racing.
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Originally posted by Majestic Majestic wrote:

A simple "not to race again" clause in contract is all it would have taken. Sorry affair for previous owners but that's racing.


Exactly.
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I will assume it is just for the spring. She would not bred till February at earliest up there.

You could not imagine she'd improve witn Waller but it would be a real kick in the teeth to Olive if she did.



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Geez, I would be dirty.  Olive retired her, believeing he was doing the right thing and looking after the little horse,,,so much for the "on the plane to japan "  !!!Angry
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I get the impression many are looking forward to old "I told you so"




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I can assure you I am not looking forward to that at all !  I will feel ill watching her trying so hard, when she has already given her all.  Dont these people have any feelings for the animal at all ?  Or  are they so money hungry they just dont give a toss.
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Does Waller need the money? About time a trainer see's the need to stand up and say, thanks but no thanks, Nick did a great job, I bet he's gutted, if he thought she had bottomed out, then she has.....Cmon Chris, be a man here.
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Originally posted by Bonjour Bonjour wrote:

Does Waller need the money? About time a trainer see's the need to stand up and say, thanks but no thanks, Nick did a great job, I bet he's gutted, if he thought she had bottomed out, then she has.....Cmon Chris, be a man here.

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Get real, if Waller hadn't accepted the mare there's others who would've quick smart and Olive would still have been gutted.

At least Waller had the character to contact Nick personallyand delivery the bad news.
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I’m sure if Waller sees that she’s had enough then he won’t race her.
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Who knows she may be just looking for a change of scenery and will come out and win a Group 1?

Give them a chance, she’s a good horse.
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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

I can assure you I am not looking forward to that at all !  I will feel ill watching her trying so hard, when she has already given her all.  Dont these people have any feelings for the animal at all ?  Or  are they so money hungry they just dont give a toss.


Wow, what a pathetic post.

I’m sure Waller will retire if she doesn’t come up.
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This is a non aussie IMO
The horse was sold, the new owners are allowed to do what the like....
If you sell your house, do you get upset if the new owner renovates it?
No, that’s just absurd.
They knew the risks when they sold her, if they wanted her sold for breeding only, they could’ve put that in the sale contract... they didn’t.

Olive is just a sook. Grow up. You had your chance and you failed.
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Originally posted by Prince of Penzance Prince of Penzance wrote:

This is a non ISSUE. IMO
The horse was sold, the new owners are allowed to do what the like....
If you sell your house, do you get upset if the new owner renovates it?
No, that’s just absurd.
They knew the risks when they sold her, if they wanted her sold for breeding only, they could’ve put that in the sale contract... they didn’t.

Olive is just a sook. Grow up. You had your chance and you failed.
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Waller has the animals best interest at heart. He knows what he is dong. Leave it at that.
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Originally posted by Shawy38 Shawy38 wrote:

Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

I can assure you I am not looking forward to that at all !  I will feel ill watching her trying so hard, when she has already given her all.  Dont these people have any feelings for the animal at all ?  Or  are they so money hungry they just dont give a toss.


Wow, what a pathetic post.

I’m sure Waller will retire if she doesn’t come up.

Wow, what a pathetic post.
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Originally posted by Smoke and Mirrors Smoke and Mirrors wrote:

Waller has the animals best interest at heart. He knows what he is dong. Leave it at that.
Thanks Mrs Waller.
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Originally posted by Bonjour Bonjour wrote:

Originally posted by Smoke and Mirrors Smoke and Mirrors wrote:

Waller has the animals best interest at heart. He knows what he is dong. Leave it at that.

Thanks Mrs Waller.


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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Get real, if Waller hadn't accepted the mare there's others who would've quick smart and Olive would still have been gutted.

At least Waller had the character to contact Nick personallyand delivery the bad news.
Read my post SC, it's about time a trainer stood up.....a trainer........time some scruples and decency entered the game, necking other trainers has gone on for yonks, since Adam played full back, but there has always been an exception, now what a story and what an accolade it would have been for Chris to have said, ''sorry, if her previous trainer said she was going backward and for her well being we are politely declining'' ? hello? wouldn't that have been nice for everyone, everyone SC....it might even have set a new benchmark.....but, it didn't happen and we know why....don't we......who are the new owners....says it all.
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Originally posted by Bonjour Bonjour wrote:

Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Get real, if Waller hadn't accepted the mare there's others who would've quick smart and Olive would still have been gutted.

At least Waller had the character to contact Nick personallyand delivery the bad news.
Read my post SC, it's about time a trainer stood up.....a trainer........time some scruples and decency entered the game, necking other trainers has gone on for yonks, since Adam played full back, but there has always been an exception, now what a story and what an accolade it would have been for Chris to have said, ''sorry, if her previous trainer said she was going backward and for her well being we are politely declining'' ? hello? wouldn't that have been nice for everyone, everyone SC....it might even have set a new benchmark.....but, it didn't happen and we know why....don't we......who are the new owners....says it all.

With all due respect, Who is her previous trainer ? 


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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Originally posted by Bonjour Bonjour wrote:

Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Get real, if Waller hadn't accepted the mare there's others who would've quick smart and Olive would still have been gutted.

At least Waller had the character to contact Nick personallyand delivery the bad news.
Read my post SC, it's about time a trainer stood up.....a trainer........time some scruples and decency entered the game, necking other trainers has gone on for yonks, since Adam played full back, but there has always been an exception, now what a story and what an accolade it would have been for Chris to have said, ''sorry, if her previous trainer said she was going backward and for her well being we are politely declining'' ? hello? wouldn't that have been nice for everyone, everyone SC....it might even have set a new benchmark.....but, it didn't happen and we know why....don't we......who are the new owners....says it all.

With all due respect, Who is her previous trainer ? 


What does that mean ?Confused
Her previous trainer was Olive and he suggested retirement because he felt she had done her best and it was time to consider her welfare, and the owners did what they felt was best for her .
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