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linghi11
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Posted: 03 Sep 2014 at 7:03pm |
RV stewards have issued one charge against licensed trainer Shea EdenRacing Victoria (RV) stewards have today issued one charge against licensed trainer Shea Eden for conduct which is alleged to be prejudicial to the image, interests, or welfare of racing. Mr Eden has been charged with breaching AR 175A which reads: Any person bound by these Rules who either within a racecourse or elsewhere in the opinion of the Committee of any Club or the Stewards has been guilty of conduct prejudicial to the image, or interests, or welfare of racing may be penalised. [amended 1/09/09] The charge relates to comments made by Mr Eden in a post-race interview aired on TVN following the running of the Mildura Cup at Mildura Racecourse on Sunday, 24 August, 2014. Mr Eden had two runners in the Mildura Cup, Rambert and Flyingconi. Rambert led until weakening in the straight to finish 11th, whilst Flyingconi raced near the rear and ran on in the straight to win the race. The particulars of the charge are that Mr Eden’s post-race comments about the run of Rambert are alleged to be prejudicial to the image and/or interests and/or welfare of racing. The charge will be heard before the Racing Appeals and Disciplinary (RAD) Board on a date to be fixed. Edited by Gay3 - 20 Jul 2018 at 9:17pm |
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subastral
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Guessing something to do with having a pacemaker?
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linghi11
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they mentioned this the other day but didn't elaborate on what he actually said... this does look like it may have been a pacemaker comment subby... anyone hear it?
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Bonjour
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Apparently he inferred, the 'bunny' took one for the team!……now that's laying it on the line.
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tillyras
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I saw the interview and on what I saw he is guilty!
Basically said flyingconi needs pace on and rambert went flat out to put the pace into the race and stated he "took one for the team".
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tillyras
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this from last week:
Stewards questioned further regarding Mildura Cup tacticsDarryl Sherer - 29/08/2014 Racing Victoria stewards have launched an inquiry into comments made by trainer Shea Eden following the win of Flyingconi in last Sunday’s Mildura Cup. Eden won the race with the well-backed Flyingconi after stablemate Rambert ($81) led at a fast pace before weakening from the home turn. Rambert finished last in the field of 11 beaten 19-1/4 lengths. Speaking on TVN afterwards Eden said Rambert "took one for the team". Local stewards spoke post-race to Eden after the running of the race and asked for an explanation of tactics. Jockey Dean Holland, who rode Rambert, was also questioned with his and Eden's explanation accepted. Stewards spoke to the trainer again at Sandown Park on Wednesday regarding comments he made in a television interview immediately after the race and will announce their findings next week. Pacemakers are not permitted under the Australian Rules of Racing. |
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Browndog
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Trainer Shea Eden admitted on TVN afterwards that Rambert 'took one for the team' in going out hard, his stablemate by contrast being switched off by Dean Yendall towards the rear. Into the home straight and Rambert ($81) understandably gave way, leaving Flyingconi ($7.50) to come sweeping down the outside to get up and comfortably defeat Rebel Truce ($8) 3 -lengths with Road Trippin ($3.50 fav.) making some ground late to be third, a half length away. Eden made no apology for the tactics, explaining Flyingconi races better off a fast pace. "It's no secret that Flyingconi needs the tempo on and a firm track really suited," he said when interviewed on TVN. Eden said he instructed Yendall to ride Flyingconi patiently with the pace on. "I told him the horse was better ridden quiet and he just couldn't have ridden it any better,' Eden, who won the opening race on the card with Annihilation ($13), said. "He has been an amazing horse for me and the connections. It's a big thrill to win this." A $12,000 yearling, Flyingconi is a seven-year-old gelding by Bianconi with six wins from 34 starts and earnings of $278,662. |
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Hollywood
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What obligation do trainers, jockeys and owners have towards the media.
None ?
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Tuft_it_Tees
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Children and fools speak the truth.
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Ecair Issoire
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the bunny ..Rambert...is owned by the eden family..
so at least we can assume they got the tip...
..why would he own up to it...?
did he not understand the rules..?
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Pardon_My_Dust
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Another crooked race.
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The Insider
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Shea Eden will get a penalty. What he did is done by many big stables, just never admit it in interviews.
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Gay3
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So a race run at a genuine tempo, conducive to all runners getting a fair chance, is suddenly 'crooked' because the leader happens to be a stablemate? Another conspiracy theorist. Rambert has never won a race when not leading, just for the record. |
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Pardon_My_Dust
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It's crooked as in a horse was in there not to win, but to set it up for it's stablemate, and clearly affecting the chances of the horses racing on the speed. Hell the trainer himself said it was a set up! I really don't know what you're debating here Gay.
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Gay3
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The point is, it's highly likely Eden said what he did, in the elation of the moment, rubbing his ego, as if 'the plan' came off, when in all probability both were in with a big chance, dependent on runs.
I hate it when every race is won by those on the pace, sit & sprints or leader bias; the Balak Cup was a joy to watch i.e. those on or near the pace had their chances but having been truly run, the last horse on straightening was able to win. The best horse, at the distance, on the day |
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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James
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As stated it happens all the time and is not that hard to pick. If a trainer has more than one nominated for a race and one of those is a front runner it's not hard to work out if it's just in as a bunny.
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Bi Carb
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I agree. The peanut shot his mouth off like a boofhead and admitted it was basically a shifty set up. |
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BlackKnight
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That isn't what the market suggested about the stablemate. Nor should it have been for a horse second up off a 66-week break, who had never won over less than 2000 metres.
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bradjm
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At least the one shortest in the market one, unlike what happens with the big stables.
Its not like he talked the $81 pop up before the race.
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Pardon_My_Dust
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I'm happy with that too as long as it's legitimate.
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whitt0
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This! |
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Glencoe
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Pardon My Dust are you unequivocally sure your avatar has never done a S.Eden
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Pardon_My_Dust
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What send a horse out to put the pace on? Most definitely but it would be setting the pace for its own benefit!
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vontastic
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I was surprised to hear Shea's comments maybe
his emotions got the better of him. It's not the first time trainers have used pacemakers and won't be the last. At least Shea owned the pacemaker. |
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Sure, his comment was a stuff up. But........ Rambert is a leader and his tactics were known prior to the race!!! He used those tactics to win at Seymour a few years back when he went out 20 lengths in front, and won by 9. He followed it up with an exact same performance the following run. All his wins have been using this same method!!!
He was qualified to race, and wasn't the worst rated horse in the race, so nothing wrong with running him in the race, nor with the tactics involved in my opinion. He'll get off with the right defence team.
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Agree he should get off lightly The best stayer in field won I personally think pacemakers should be allowed it would help stop jockeys from manipulating results |
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Trainers taking responsibility for what they say in the media.
Opens up a can of worms.
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Yes have them ridden how they wish, a long as it gives them a chance to win for the sake of the punter , and not have to tell the stewards of a change of tactics , often the proposed riding tactics dont happen , circunstances.
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I have no drama at all with this in racing and really with the amount of rubbish sit and sprint boat races we have from 1400m-2000m it should be encouraged. The stablemate was a genuine leader who's best chance of winning the race was getting them off their feet, he was also 80-1. If The Cleaner had a stablemate that was a get back- run on horse in the race on Saturday would their be an outcry if The Cleaner was rolled and the stablemate won??
I remember in 08 the NZ'er Sir Slick was in qld for the Doomben Cup and his natural style was to lead at a decent clip. After the race was won by something that was in the market the beaten riders were falling over themselves crying about "how the kiwi wrecked it for everyone else" and Glen Colless replied with the cracker line "not sure why they are all whingeing, isn't that why they call it a RACE"
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sorry was in about 2010 and sir slick ran 3rd with Colless onboard
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