Sepoy

Is he still on the nose?

And pray tell for the benefit of all on this forum for next season how much was that?

Yeah I don't know 1 sw from 135 runners in Australia probably got some very good Darley mares to boot.

Spearmint wrote: Well I think this horse is on the rise. It looks like his stock need to mature and he is not necessarily a 2yo sire unlike the racehorse he was. At $8k he sounds a great prospect for breeding a racehorse if at an affordable rate. Remember Street Boss was down to $8k at one stage and he now stands for $33k!! Darley sometimes get it wrong. This may just be the year to get Sepoy at his lowest fee. I'm tempted if you can truly get in for $8k

That is true, however I don't think he got the mares sepoy did, and how is street boss traveling lately?

true assessment Second Chance. any idea of temperament ?

yep fair enough Rem. also wondered about the Street Boss's. the few i have seen look to have a bit of a streak in the eye but happy to be told different

I have had my eye on a nice Sepoy 3 y/o filly whom I think if conditions suit will prove very hard to beat in the forthcoming AJC OAKS, of course the ultra smart Aloisia will be the big stumbling block, but if the tracks are traditionally anywhere near soft she will acquit herself well , she has always seemed behind the eight ball in her preps, this may be her time to shine,...Miss Admiration is her name.

Second Chance wrote: There's a deal of hype around Street Boss, however the reality is that he's been a very average stallion in Australia who stays under notice (at least temporarily) due to The Quarterback and some overseas successes.

Note - in that 2012 season, So You Think served 60 blacktype mares...................

Sir Gov wrote: Second Chance wrote: There's a deal of hype around Street Boss, however the reality is that he's been a very average stallion in Australia who stays under notice (at least temporarily) due to The Quarterback and some overseas successes. 4% SW/R in Sthn Hem is well above avg.  Not outstanding but very good.  Rapper Dragon & Petite Filous also top progeny

Spearmint wrote: Temperament is one of the issues I am hearing about but then again that is maybe why they should be allowed to mature in both the mind and body before racing. The Street Boss story is probably more about how hype and reality are not necessarily in unison and that service fees can be set on hype before reality sets in. That sometimes they are out of sync, then reality shows something good happening and hype and reality appears to align again!! ( maybe? ) Anyway as always time will tell with Sepoy

Thanks Spearmint. Temperament can make everyone's life difficult. had a Bon Hoffa filly who never made it to the track after a number of preps due to her nervy nature. it was very disappointing and the feeling is we will never know. Breakers of course don't generally know how well they can go but he was a huge wrap for her . said he felt she was top 3 in his last 5 years of breaking if we could get her to settle. no such luck.

yes I hear you re Street Boss too. selecting a stallion is a difficult task

That's not correct spearmint.

Street Boss has had to fight for what he has achieved in Aus.
He did not start as a hype stallion more an underdog.

33k in this industry is chicken feed.

Per starters 69.6% Winners
             5.5% Stakes
             2.4% Group

Give me a break 'Temperament'.

slowdown wrote: Sir Gov wrote: Note - in that 2012 season, So You Think served 60 blacktype mares................... The leading sires based on winners (8) - Sidereus served 3 blacktype mares & Love Conquers All served 4. Smart Missile = 42 blacktype mares Sir Gov, I spend a great deal of time looking at info like you . its bloody hard to select one even when you see all the info in front of you. perhaps too much info well done on all your work . hopefully it pays off for you.....

Second Chance wrote: $33k on the back of this record?  I don't think so:   Last four five seasons                  118 118 47 71 72 Street Boss (USA), 2004, by Street Cry   101/33 0/0 0/0 1,082,508  Street Fury, $94,800

Teofilo is $10,000 more than SB after dealing has been done.

Street Boss has 10% more Winners to runners than Doomsday.

You will not survive in this industry on stake and group winners alone.
First you must show that you can make a silk purse out of a sows ear on the Winners to runners table.

SB has achieved that, will he survive going forward anyone's guess.
His fertility issues may make it difficult, but he does have the to die for Street Cry blood.

Domesday didn't survive at Darley, it's just a fact.