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Head on the chopping block time for me Wink His front feet are now at a dreadful angle with very obvious under slung heels which will imo, limit his chance of improving on what he showed with Ken. Nothing to lose, only egg on my face if he excels LOL
Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Originally posted by Lordy Lordy wrote:

All goes back to my original comment.  Snowden can't lose with this one.
Because he has proven himself, he gets the benefit of the doubt. 

You mentioned Miracles of Life yourself.

Similar reasoning as to why he should have been given the horse after the Caulfield Guineas.
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I'll be surprised if Snowden does not get the horse back to his best.
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Originally posted by Bonfield Bonfield wrote:

I'll be surprised if Snowden does not get the horse back to his best.


Doubt his best is good enough in open company. Those that were finishing alongside him and close up in behind him two springs ago when he was actually winning have done very little from that point on.

Wandjina about the only exception.
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Returns to the races next Saturday!
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Group 2 winner
Group 3 winner
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2nd Caulfield Guineas
2nd Group 3

Can he really add much to his value without group 1 performances?
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Originally posted by Beliskner Beliskner wrote:

Group 2 winner
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Can he really add much to his value without group 1 performances?


What you want him to go 1st up in a G1?
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No i'm getting at that the horse has a ton of critics, and they probably won't accept anything then a group 1 win to give him any credit.
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Originally posted by Beliskner Beliskner wrote:

No i'm getting at that the horse has a ton of critics, and they probably won't accept anything then a group 1 win to give him any credit.

A few critics of the horse, but many people, like myself, had no faith in the trainer.

I'd love to see the horse succeed and win a G1. I think he's well up to it.
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Originally posted by 2Square 2Square wrote:

Originally posted by Beliskner Beliskner wrote:

Group 2 winner
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2nd Group 3

Can he really add much to his value without group 1 performances?


What you want him to go 1st up in a G1?


Yes I definitely think they should go to one of the weaker group 1s 1st up. Oakleigh Plate would suit the horse
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I know the form didn't work out, but his Guineas Prelude was still one of the Shocked wins of my short time in racing.

Great call too.
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Originally posted by doubledown doubledown wrote:

I know the form didn't work out, but his Guineas Prelude was still one of the Shocked wins of my short time in racing.

Great call too.

I agree.
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Very winnable
The only problem with backing winners ? You never have enough on....
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Still got his supporters 4.80 into $4
The only problem with backing winners ? You never have enough on....
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Been a muncher for a while..
I'd suggest watching this run before unloading if you are a fan
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Who is the jock booked?

There don't seem to be many putting their hand up to take the ride.
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Originally posted by LR80 LR80 wrote:

Who is the jock booked?

There don't seem to be many putting their hand up to take the ride.

McEvoy. Not a bad choice on a front runner.
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Backing him is a leap of faith and trusting Snowden. Didn't touch the horse last prep but could dive in here just based on the Snowden magic.
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Originally posted by BlackKnight BlackKnight wrote:

Originally posted by LR80 LR80 wrote:

Who is the jock booked?

There don't seem to be many putting their hand up to take the ride.

McEvoy. Not a bad choice on a front runner.

Thanks. Good choice of jock. 
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Originally posted by LR80 LR80 wrote:

Originally posted by BlackKnight BlackKnight wrote:

Originally posted by LR80 LR80 wrote:

Who is the jock booked?

There don't seem to be many putting their hand up to take the ride.

McEvoy. Not a bad choice on a front runner.

Thanks. Good choice of jock. 
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The choice of jockey is irrelevant imo.
 
Either he's back or not, if it's the former he wins and if not he don't.
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They would be off to a great start if they can get him to the barriers without falling to pieces.
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

The choice of jockey is irrelevant imo.
 
Either he's back or not, if it's the former he wins and if not he don't.
So anchor dropping on leaders is irrelevant? OK.
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The proof will be in the pudding, simple as that.
 
 
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While they're good horses, I think the field he meets gives him every chance, majority are non-winners at this point of their careers.
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Originally posted by Nocturnal Nocturnal wrote:

Still got his supporters 4.80 into $4

Paul Snowden is known to have a fair crack at times, might think they have him right?
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Pass mark. He still has something in him.
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I thought he might need the run. Although he has always run fairly well first up, in his breakout prep as a 3yo he improved a LOT at his 2nd and 3rd runs.
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