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    Posted: 09 Feb 2015 at 7:25pm
http://www.nzracing.co.nz/Breeding/313564/Reliable-Man-GB-2008.aspx#bm-stallion-fertility

WTF; what is happening here; seems disastrous. Was thinking of him over his sire, but those stats say go to SA and the  sire.
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This does not seem right. Numbers above look wrong
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Definitely wrong. Westbury have a stack of RMs foals on their website
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So You Think - Curragh - 02.05.2011

So You Think: his dam Triassic is still in service at the age of 24

 PICTURE: Patrick McCann (racingpost.com/photos)

So You Think dam in foal to Reliable Man

 BY RACING AND SPORTS1:40PM 30 JAN 2015 

TRIASSIC, the veteran dam of champion galloper So You Think, has been confirmed in foal to New Zealand-based sire Reliable Man.

The positive test is a wonderful result for Triassic's owner Cecile Smith, Westbury Stud and the Matamata vet practice that played a significant role in the 24-year-old mare's breeding longevity.

"She's come back from Matamata vets absolutely glowing, beautifully dappled and shiny. She looks ten years younger," Smith said.

"Thanks to Dave Hanlon and Dot Hallyburton at Matamata vets who took such good care of her."

Triassic was unable to have a foal last season with her most recent birth being a 2012 colt by Medaglia D'Oro.

Reliable Man, a Westbury Stud shuttle stallion, had his first New Zealand progeny born last spring.

The son of Dalakhani won the Prix du Jockey Club in France and the  Queen Elizabeth Stakes at Randwick when he was trained in Sydney by Chris Waller.

Triassic got in foal to Reliable Man without a delay. She had a gender test on day 63 that revealed she is carrying a filly.

"I'll keep this one for myself and it will become the foundation of a continuing breeding line," Smith said.

Triassic, by Tights, was the winner of the Group 2 Sir Tristram Fillies Classic and the Listed Soliloquy Stakes, while at stud she has a perfect record having produced eight named foals and eight winners.

Led by ten-time Group 1 winner side So You Think, they also include Group 3-placed Now You Think and the dual winner Circus Dance, who has produced the stakes winning sprinter Faaltless.

Reliable Man served a high class book of mares last spring including Royal Prize, the dam of recent Eight Carat Classic and Royal Stakes winner Saavoya, New Zealand Oaks winner Artistic, Flight Stakes winner and WS Cox Plate runner-up Lotteria and the stakes performers Blinding, Canyon Yodeller, Chaparella, Chuckle, Fairfield Flame, Innocent Lady, Joint Effort, Kiri, Magic Belle, Miss Scarlatti, Monachee, Ortem Fire, Pravda, Run Roxy Run, Run To The Bank, The Darling One and Zingo.

He also covered the dams of the stakes performers Bellini Rose, Cavallo, Charlestown, Exceptionally, Keep the Peace, Neo, Niki Piki Milo, Nothin' Leica Cat, Role Model, Scapolo, Secret's Only, Serein, Storming the Tower, The Travelling Man and Whosyourmaster.

Siblings to Dracula, Sash, Silent Achiever, Vitrinite, Zabisco, and Zagalia were also mares served by Reliable Man in his second season at Westbury.

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Seeing them go around over 800m in New Zealand I just shake my head.




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Stop trying to out think them Djebel.  They often start their staying bred horses early.

Look at Apollo Eleven he was out as a 2yo on 7th October for a 2nd over 4f 110y.  He had 13 2yo starts.  Didn't stop him staying or winning G1's over 3200m.

Spyglass the dam of Iron Horse (Epsom H) had 8 starts as a 2yo starting first over 800m for a 3rd.  She went on and won the Ellerslie Sires' Produce S G1 over 1400m and then as an older horse won the Auckland Cup over 3200m.

Silver Knight had 9 2yo starts - starting over 5f 110y.  He only won the one 2yo race but went on to win the Melbourne Cup.

Maybe its how they get good hard horses!
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Those horses probably showed class rather than speed. ( there is a difference ) This Reliable Man filly was completely run off her feet.

Winx's mother had an interesting 2yo season in New Zealand, 9 starts including 2 early season 800-900m scampers.

It might be fine that these horses went on to win middle distant and staying contests but now that we have more and
more UK imports coming in they are winning less and less of our open class longer races. They are not reaching the top like they did in the good old days.






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This one has been backed in the 2nd at Sandown. I suspect what ever it does on a firm track it will be 2 or 3 classes better on a damp track.

Unnamed  
Reliable Man (GB)
Grey 2008
Dalakhani
Grey 2000
Darshaan
Brown 1981
Shirley Heights
Bay 1975
Mill Reef
Hardiemma
1968
1969
22-d
1-l
Delsy
Brown 1972
Abdos
Kelty
1959
1965
1-e
13-c
Daltawa
Grey 1989
Miswaki
Chestnut 1978
Mr Prospector
Hopespringseternal
1970
1971
13-c
16-g
Damana
Grey 1981
Crystal Palace
Denia
1974
1973
10-e
9-e
On Fair Stage
Bay 1993
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Fair Salinia
Bay or brown 1975
Petingo
Bay 1965
Petition
Alcazar
1944
1957
16-g
22>
Fair Arabella
Bay or brown 1968
Chateaugay
Locust Time
1960
1955
16-g
16-c
Rosey Dane (AUS)
Bay 2001
Woodman
Chestnut 1983
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Chestnut 1961
Native Dancer
Raise You
1950
1946
5-f
8-f
Gold Digger
Bay 1962
Nashua
Sequence
1952
1946
3-m
13-c
Playmate
Chestnut 1975
Buckpasser
Bay 1963
Tom Fool
Busanda
1949
1947
3-j
1-s
Intriguing
Chestnut 1964
Swaps
Glamour
1952
1953
A4
1-s
Rose of Dane
Bay 1995
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Rose Twig
Brown 1985
Twig Moss
Bay 1973
Luthier
Top Twig
1965
1967
14-c
1-k
Lowanna Rose
Brown 1979
Medal
Be Warned
1969
1969
8-c
4-c
 Ancestor duplications:Mr Prospector5m x 3m Northern Dancer4m x 5m


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Looks likely to join Savabeel, Ifraaj, and Tavistock as another great middle distance stallion for NZ. I’d love to own the progeny of any of them. NZ is a great place to buy/breed if you want a classic horse
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Originally posted by Cityboy Cityboy wrote:

Looks likely to join Savabeel, Ifraaj, and Tavistock as another great middle distance stallion for NZ. I’d love to own the progeny of any of them. NZ is a great place to buy/breed if you want a classic horse


Has been for nigh on 100 years Cityboy, and will always be, btw I'm Ozzie .
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Gorgeous photo of him Djebel
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Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Originally posted by Cityboy Cityboy wrote:

Looks likely to join Savabeel, Ifraaj, and Tavistock as another great middle distance stallion for NZ. I’d love to own the progeny of any of them. NZ is a great place to buy/breed if you want a classic horse


Has been for nigh on 100 years Cityboy, and will always be, btw I'm Ozzie .


I completely agree Carioca- and I’m Ozzie too. I’ve become such a fan of NZ bred racehorses that I’ve now got a mare over there chasing the dream of breeding/racing a Cox Plate winner - and its a nice place to visit.
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Loverly pedigree.

Trainer of course giving his 2nd go over 1000m.

GOVERNOR LANDY (NZ)Bay colt 2014 
Reliable Man
Grey 2008
Dalakhani
Grey 2000
Darshaan
Brown 1981
Shirley Heights
Bay 1975
Mill Reef
Hardiemma
1968
1969
22-d
1-l
Delsy
Brown 1972
Abdos
Kelty
1959
1965
1-e
13-c
Daltawa
Grey 1989
Miswaki
Chestnut 1978
Mr Prospector
Hopespringseternal
1970
1971
13-c
16-g
Damana
Grey 1981
Crystal Palace
Denia
1974
1973
10-e
9-e
On Fair Stage
Bay 1993
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Fair Salinia
Bay or brown 1975
Petingo
Bay 1965
Petition
Alcazar
1944
1957
16-g
22>
Fair Arabella
Bay or brown 1968
Chateaugay
Locust Time
1960
1955
16-g
16-c
Glory Run
Bay 2007
Exceed and Excel
Bay 2000
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Patrona
Chestnut 1994
Lomond
Bay 1980
Northern Dancer
My Charmer
1961
1969
2-d
13-c
Gladiolus
Chestnut 1974
Watch Your Step
Back Britches
1956
1964
6-a
23-b
Penny Gem
Chestnut 1999
Pentire
Bay 1992
Be My Guest
Chestnut 1974
Northern Dancer
What a Treat
1961
1962
2-d
8-c
Gull Nook
Bay 1983
Mill Reef
Bempton
1968
1976
22-d
1-l
Gemscay
Bay 1989
Maizcay
Bay 1984
Marscay
Corn
1979
1976
4-m
14-c
Jewel Box
Chestnut 1984
Nassau
Betty Box
1977
1973
2-e
13-a
 Ancestor duplications:Mill Reef5m x 5f Northern Dancer4m x 5m,5m,5m


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Drop dead gorgeous pedigree.  We can't help the trainers see what they have Djebel.
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Hello,
Isn't it strange, how similar are the peds of Governor Landy (NZ) and the Germanbred Moon Relation? Even they are bred on the Antipodes. Both horses carrying Shirley Heights/Pentire and Shirley Heights/Gull Nook are 3/4 relatives.
 
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MOON RELATION (GER)Bay filly 2015 
Reliable Man
Grey 2008
Dalakhani
Grey 2000
Darshaan
Brown 1981
Shirley Heights
Bay 1975
Mill Reef
Hardiemma
1968
1969
22-d
1-l
Delsy
Brown 1972
Abdos
Kelty
1959
1965
1-e
13-c
Daltawa
Grey 1989
Miswaki
Chestnut 1978
Mr Prospector
Hopespringseternal
1970
1971
13-c
16-g
Damana
Grey 1981
Crystal Palace
Denia
1974
1973
10-e
9-e
On Fair Stage
Bay 1993
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Fair Salinia
Bay or brown 1975
Petingo
Bay 1965
Petition
Alcazar
1944
1957
16-g
22>
Fair Arabella
Bay or brown 1968
Chateaugay
Locust Time
1960
1955
16-g
16-c
Moonlight Symphony
Bay 2006
Pentire
Bay 1992
Be My Guest
Chestnut 1974
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
What a Treat
Bay or brown 1962
Tudor Minstrel
Rare Treat
1944
1952
9-c
8-c
Gull Nook
Bay 1983
Mill Reef
Bay 1968
Never Bend
Milan Mill
1960
1962
19-b
22-d
Bempton
Bay 1976
Blakeney
Hardiemma
1966
1969
20-c
1-l
Moonlight Dream
Brown 1999
Law Society
Bay or brown 1982
Alleged
Bay 1974
Hoist the Flag
Princess Pout
1968
1966
5-i
2-s
Bold Bikini
Bay 1969
Boldnesian
Ran-Tan
1963
1960
4-m
5-e
Morning Queen
Bay 1993
Konigsstuhl
Brown 1976
Dschingis Khan
Konigskronung
1961
1965
6-e
5-h
Mosella
Bay 1985
Surumu
Monasia
1974
1979
19>
8-a
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