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Originally posted by SkyDancer SkyDancer wrote:

Overseas good tracks are different to our good tracks.


If we get rain on both days ajd close to the 15mm predicted on bith days then that will help his chances....but again...a place chance at best. At least the distance will not be a query.

I also wonder if weir could of placed him beter in the leaduo races
It's always good when a WA horse does well in the Eastern States or abroad.
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These are the types of imports that shouldn't be taking spots in the Cup. Comes over and runs midfield last year, then spells for 8 months and does nothing here but still gets a decent weight and fails again. They add nothing to the race! Bondi Beach was similar the last few years.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jamal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Nov 2018 at 11:00am
Does Red Cardinal come into the equation based on the wet track? Surely not? I'm sure there are other horses who will perform better in the Cup?
It's always good when a WA horse does well in the Eastern States or abroad.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dr E Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Nov 2018 at 12:07pm
Handles wet, will run 2 miles, top 10.
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Can fluke a place.
$51 is his right price though
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Track is now a soft7, that probably rules out Red Cardinal.
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He will have every chance.
Probably not good enough, but don’t rule him out entirely
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Originally posted by Smoke and Mirrors Smoke and Mirrors wrote:

He will have every chance.
Probably not good enough, but don’t rule him out entirely



I thought he needed a heavy track.
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I had $2ew on him at $101/26 on Saturday night.

Blinkers first time too, might help him a little.
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Originally posted by Smoke and Mirrors Smoke and Mirrors wrote:

I had $2ew on him at $101/26 on Saturday night.

Blinkers first time too, might help him a little.


You seem confident mate. I would of thought the Heavy track would of helped but with it being being upgraded to a soft...the question is how much moisure has been dried up. Time will tell.
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I’ve actually had $2 on about 10 horses all at double figure odds and a couple at triple figures. Just for a bit of fun.

Not confident at all really, it’s the only day of the year I have a flutter
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Tongue over the bit.
Game over
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Originally posted by Breeding Above All Breeding Above All wrote:

Originally posted by Jamal Jamal wrote:

Originally posted by Breeding Above All Breeding Above All wrote:

Shocking prep.. Weir clearly hasn’t worked him out


What things do you think Weir could of done better?


Well.. a run where he looks like he has talent.. not look like a plodder every race


This remains true... Needs to go to another trainer. Run terribly every race
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Yep he particularly doesn't seem suited by the Aussie prep runs over 1400m etc. Didn't he run in the All-Aged in Sydney over Autumn? Or maybe he was entered but scratched. He definitely ran in the Liston/Lawrence. Just seems odd for a horse that used to solely run in the 2400-3200m range.

Races like the Sandwown Cup, Duke of Norfolk, Stayers Cup at Rosehill, Queensland Cup, St Leger etc look about his mark.

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He was entered for a few races in the Autumn but was scratched from them all.
I think he is a bit of a grinder, jockey said yesterday he was one iced and had his tongue over the bit a long way from home.

I don’t think he is suited to Australian conditions, needs to go back to Germany I feel.
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One paced*
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Resumes in Race 8 at Rosehill today.
Will be interesting to see how much that woeful run in the Cup took out of him.
Kicks off over 1900 but probably not ready to fire until later in the prep.

Now with Kris Lees.
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Had a nibble on him and the stablemate. so glad I did

They both ran super
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I can’t believe that just happened. I’d had him pegged as a dour plugger who wouldn’t get out of his own road until getting to at least 2400m.

It’ll be interesting to see if that was a flash in the pan or whether the new stable can actually manage his campaign to be peaking in the Sydney Cup.
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Very interesting indeed. I just remember the previous trainer saying he struggled on the hard ground.
When i saw it was raining, I had a nibble.
Lees has only had them two weeks so will be interesting to see how they go on.
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Originally posted by breeding_above_all breeding_above_all wrote:

Originally posted by Breeding Above All Breeding Above All wrote:

Originally posted by Jamal Jamal wrote:

Originally posted by Breeding Above All Breeding Above All wrote:

Shocking prep.. Weir clearly hasn’t worked him out


What things do you think Weir could of done better?


Well.. a run where he looks like he has talent.. not look like a plodder every race


This remains true... Needs to go to another trainer. Run terribly every race


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I normally back Red Cardinal. I didnt today so I am disappointed.
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Heavy 10 today, interesting to see how he goes on that.
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Another win.
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Lees has certainly turned him around.
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Has certainly improved
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I think he is lengths better Sydney way of going.
He seems to race more tractable
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A typical Sydney goat track.

I wouldn't read into anything about form wise.

You are either a swimmer or you're not.
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Two from two this prep though.
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That is true Crooked.

I just way too many good horses failing badly, and the margins, to think the track was near fair.
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