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    Posted: 24 Apr 2016 at 4:56am
I find it worthy to post this because in our forum there is constant debate about the quality of Group 1 race as compared to the rest around the world.

In the latest published rankings of the top 100 GI races, Australia has 22, second to the USA which has 23.

Thetrop ranked race is no surprise is the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe @ Longchamps.

Our top ranked race  is the Darley Spring during the VRC Spring Carnival @ #15 and closely followed by the Newmarket Handicap.

Sydney's top race is @ #31 George Ryder Stakes and the Cox Plate is #47.

Omissions - Melbourne Cup.

http://i.bloodhorse.com/pdfs/2015_Top100G1Races.pdf


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Can't take these rankings seriously when the 2nd and 4th top races are on dirt tracks and limited to USA 3yos.  

Even looking at that Australian races you have the Canterbury Stakes ahead of the Cox Plate Confused
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Originally posted by Lordy Lordy wrote:

Can't take these rankings seriously when the 2nd and 4th top races are on dirt tracks and limited to USA 3yos.  

Even looking at that Australian races you have the Canterbury Stakes ahead of the Cox Plate Confused


For the US Races the rankings are bloated this season because they were won by a Triple Crown winner.
It is a rare occurance that should happen but the numbers would inflate the value of those races.
Also the winner won the Breeders' Cup Classic as well so lets just take this anomaly.

BTW The Al Quoz Sprint was ranked #76 and it was won by your own ranked #17 thoroughbred in the world which really gives credence to those in OZ who venture out and represent us successfully on the
International Level. Otherwise we just would not know how good we really are! Cheers!
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New Rankings came out after the KDerby this past weekend.

Winx is ranked equal #1 with California Chrome. Chautauqua moved up to 7th after its win in HK.

Werther is also worth mentioning since he is ranked #3 after his big win. Joining him was Nyquist after his KDerby win.

http://www.horseracingintfed.com/resources/WTRRankings/LWBRR.asp?batch=30
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New rankings - With A Shin Hikari (JPN) the new number 1 after his supposed 10 length win in France.

http://www.horseracingintfed.com/resources/WTRRankings/LWBRR.asp?batch=31
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New rankings released just to add fire for folks to debate...

Winx still equal #2 with California Chrome also now joined by Frosted who bolted in the GI Metropolitan Mile @ Belmont Park (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy6CdcKZOIQ)  by 14 odd lengths in 1.32 3/4. A Shin Hikari a bit of imposter still number #1 - really this rating should of deducted his rating after he dead last at Ascot.

Werther #5, Chautauqua #14, and Protectionist (GER) returns to the list @ #20.

http://www.horseracingintfed.com/resources/WTRRankings/LWBRR.asp?batch=32




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The final ranking for 2016 have come out and Winx is ranked 3rd with a rating of 132 behind US stars Arrogate and California Chrome.

The latter two will battle in the inaugural G1 Pegasus World Cup Invitational Stakes at Gulfstream Park this coming weekend.

Winx
received her ranking not surprisingly in her dominant win in the G1 W.S. Cox Plate.
Hartnell, the only other Australian Top Ten based horse was ranked 8th with a 124 rating after his win in the G1 Turnbull Stakes.

The only other Top 25 Australian was Chautauqua ranked 18th.

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Brudder it is a big world of racing.  They breed in England, Ireland, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Japan, UAE, Sweden, USA, Chile, Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Canada, New Zealand, Czech Republic, India, Korea, Peru, South Africa, Venezuela, Zimbabwe, The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Turkey and a few others as well.  

So I think it's not bad to have three in the top 25 including the top ranked Turf horse or mare.
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Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

Brudder it is a big world of racing.  They breed in England, Ireland, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Japan, UAE, Sweden, USA, Chile, Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Canada, New Zealand, Czech Republic, India, Korea, Peru, South Africa, Venezuela, Zimbabwe, The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Turkey and a few others as well.  

So I think it's not bad to have three in the top 25 including the top ranked Turf horse or mare.


Australian horses have exceptionally well and they are well regarded all over the world.

I see that Waller has finally mentioned that if Winx has a successful 2017 that in 2018 Ascot might be beckoning. Would be quite a spectacle.


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I see that the Cox Plate was rated the 2nd highest race in 2016........Hmmmm

Goes to show how much value they put on Winx running because surely the Arc had greater strength across the entries
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Actually recently did a pedigree for a horse racing in France who decended from the greate Kinsem (undefeated winner of 54 races).  This one was bred in Russia so it was an interesting pedigree to say the least.
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Not bad results when you consider our horses are trained upside down and inside out!
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Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Not bad results when you consider our horses are trained upside down and inside out!


We'd have a hell of a lot more up their if they did train properly.




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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Not bad results when you consider our horses are trained upside down and inside out!




We'd have a hell of a lot more up their if they did train properly.


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Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

Actually recently did a pedigree for a horse racing in France who decended from the greate Kinsem (undefeated winner of 54 races).  This one was bred in Russia so it was an interesting pedigree to say the least.


The great Hungarian mare Kincsem was a marvel. Last time I was in Budapest the plane flew over the racetrack named after her. Will be in Budapest in April and was thinking of checking out the track there.

Russian studs in Kuban and Don were well looked after during the Soviet era. They fell apart and went into disarray when the Soviet Union split apart. Don't know how they are faring now.

Sanctions in Russia bites today.
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Yes there was some very non descript blood in this one and he didn't do much.  Just interesting to find one decending in the female line from her.  I think the mare went to Russia from Czech Republic probably when they split.  But lots of blood we in Australia or Europe and the USA have no records of.
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To World Rankings out this week:

Winx #2 behind Arrogate.

And 5.3 lengths in third was Hartnell with Gun Runner and Jack Dobbs.

Other OZ notables
#6 Chautauqua
#8 Jameka
#13 Black Heart Bart, Le Romain, Our Ivanhowe (GER), Palentino
#26 Contentment (AUS) (ex Chilton County)  in Kong Kong, Whiskey Baron (AUS) in Sth Africa.

http://www.horseracingintfed.com/resources/WTRRankings/LWBRR.asp?batch=39





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