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    Posted: 22 May 2016 at 7:37pm

World-class racing from Hong Kong is coming to Racing.com.

The Hong Kong Jockey Club (HKJC) has reached a multi-year agreement with Racing.com that will see all 84 race meetings per season broadcast into Australia from Happy Valley and Sha Tin racecourses.

The live racing coverage will be highlighted by the Longines Hong Kong International Races at Sha Tin in December, one of the world’s biggest and richest race days which features the Hong Kong Cup, Hong Kong Vase, Hong Kong Mile and Hong Kong Sprint, all Group 1 races run on turf.

The HKJC staged 10 of the world’s top 100 races in season 2015/16 and is home to some of the biggest names in international racing, including many famous Australians.

Star Australian jockeys Zac Purton, Brett Prebble, Chad Schofield and Nash Rawiller are all currently based in Hong Kong, while big-name riders Hugh Bowman, Tommy Berry, Craig Williams and Damien Oliver all regularly fly in to compete at feature meetings.

In a move to meet with customer needs, Racing.com will bring forward coverage from Hong Kong by commencing with the June 1 meeting from Happy Valley and continuing for the remainder of the current Hong Kong season, which concludes with the July 10 meeting from Sha Tin.

From the opening meeting of the 2016/17 Hong Kong racing season on Wednesday September 8, all 84 race meetings will be broadcast across Australia on FTA television by Racing.com.

A joint-venture partnership between Racing Victoria and Seven West Media, Racing.com is broadcast on free-to-air channels 78 (metropolitan) and 68 (regional), along with Foxtel channel 529 and on the Racing.com digital platform.

Tim Worner, Chief Executive Officer and Managing Director of Seven West Media, believes that partnering with the Hong Kong Jockey Club is an important step for Racing.com.

Racing.com is only nine months old and while we are quietly pleased with what has already been achieved, the future performance and the potential of this business is very, very significant,” Worner said.

“Hong Kong attracts the best jockeys, the best trainers. It is a greatly admired racing jurisdiction and it should be on the best racing channel. For the HKJC to recognise the reach that is achieved by Racing.com is a great compliment.

“Technology is now driving aggressive competition in wagering globally and here in Australia the way racing has been traditionally delivered and marketed is certainly not immune from change.

“In everything we do at Seven we have made it our business, literally, to keep pace with change.

“As a channel, Racing.com just keeps getting better. That team is driven by new ideas.

“We are looking, in this partnership with Racing Victoria, to make sure that premium racing product has a natural home on Racing.com.”

As part of the deal, Racing.com will develop programs to complement the Hong Kong coverage while also having access to English programs produced by the HKJC, including ‘Racing To Win’ and other feature programs for major meetings.

Field and form information will also be made available for the 2016/17 season, including archival digital replays and form on Racing.com.

The HKJC had a record season in 2014/15, resulting in an all-time high with wagering turnover of HK$107.9 billion (A$19.24 billion) and, as the current season draws to a close, looks set to create a new record mark.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote James Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 May 2016 at 9:34pm
I think they would have had this in mind from the beginning. Good move but it is unfortunate that HK racing vision looks like it is being broadcast directly from 1980.
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I thought the whole objection to Sky channel was that it had too much racing.  The vision was that more time would allow for premium presentation of all those Mildura 58 rated races

But with TVN all they did was add more and more races as time went by to make it closer to Sky channel.  Now Racing.com is going down the same path
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Originally posted by Atreus Atreus wrote:

I thought the whole objection to Sky channel was that it had too much racing.  The vision was that more time would allow for premium presentation of all those Mildura 58 rated races

But with TVN all they did was add more and more races as time went by to make it closer to Sky channel.  Now Racing.com is going down the same path

Not really.

The majority of Hong Kong racing will not clash with Victorian racing.

And we know how flexible Victorian racing is, They will schedule their races not to clash with Hong Kong.




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I like the idea. Wonder if the move might get HK to upgrade their vision from SD to HD. With this merger it might get more aussie trainers to take their horse's over. Even though half the horses are brought from australia anyway.

But I really would of thought racing vic would of tried to get another states metropolitan racing, like SA, Qld or even WA. I know NSW is a definite no
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With any luck, this will be successful enough to open up the tote pools permanently. This business with three separate pools in Aus is no longer viable, unless the aim is to push even more funds to the corporates. Too often a small bet makes a big splash... Not so in the mammoth HK pools.

Hopefully Japanese racing is on the cards as well.
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Originally posted by James James wrote:

I think they would have had this in mind from the beginning. Good move but it is unfortunate that HK racing vision looks like it is being broadcast directly from 1980.


All we need is an increase to the Hong Kong takeout rates, and TABCORP / UNITAB will be over the moon.

This is exactly what they have been working towards all along.

It is all about increased profits, and the Asian Markets.

There is no regard whatsoever as to what impact it has on Australian punters.

You will see more races, but it will become less attractive to have a bet, and your chances of winning overall are becoming less and less, just like the pokies and lotto.

Small dribbly payouts, and less and less opportunities to receive any sort of decent returns.


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Excellent market to bet into and common sense move on the coverage. Why take SA or WA when you could get HK
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Originally posted by Luva Punt Luva Punt wrote:


Originally posted by James James wrote:

I think they would have had this in mind from the beginning. Good move but it is unfortunate that HK racing vision looks like it is being broadcast directly from 1980.


All we need is an increase to the Hong Kong takeout rates, and TABCORP / UNITAB will be over the moon.

This is exactly what they have been working towards all along.

It is all about increased profits, and the Asian Markets.

There is no regard whatsoever as to what impact it has on Australian punters.

You will see more races, but it will become less attractive to have a bet, and your chances of winning overall are becoming less and less, just like the pokies and lotto.

Small dribbly payouts, and less and less opportunities to receive any sort of decent returns.


 
Nice work captain obvious. Businesses are weird like that....
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Nice work captain obvious. Businesses are weird like that....




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Originally posted by swanks swanks wrote:

I like the idea. Wonder if the move might get HK to upgrade their vision from SD to HD. With this merger it might get more aussie trainers to take their horse's over. Even though half the horses are brought from australia anyway.

But I really would of thought racing vic would of tried to get another states metropolitan racing, like SA, Qld or even WA. I know NSW is a definite no



Well Racing.com does not broadcast in HD so it would not matter that Hong Kong is SD at the moment, actually Hong Kong was not even widescreen until several months ago something we AUS have had for at least 7 years.
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Ambushed: Jockey Club reviews deal after Aussie partner allows bookie promotion on live telecast

First meeting shown on Racing.com amounts to four-hour commercial for fixed odds bookmaker CrownBet

The Jockey Club’s agreement with Racing.com to show Hong Kong racing in Australia may already be on shaky ground after the inaugural presentation amounted to a four-hour commercial for a fixed odds bookmaker on Wednesday night.
[We] do not expect that these telecasts will advertise fixed odds on our races or any betting organisation other than TABCorp. That would be a violation of our interests and a violation of the spirit of this agreement
RICHARD CHEUNG

The Happy Valley meeting was the first fixture to be shown via Racing.com – a 24-hour digital, multi-platform joint venture between racing authorities in the state of Victoria and major broadcaster Seven West Media – as part of the “multi-year” agreement announced late last month to promote commingling.

The coverage got off to a poor start as there were reportedly difficulties with access on some Racing.com platforms, but things got worse on the avenues that were available.

Last week, the Jockey Club executive director of marketing and customer management, Richard Cheung Che-kit, said the club had received assurances of a clean feed for Hong Kong racing, and said the “deal with Racing.com explicitly agrees that there are to be no logos or online referrals to betting sites shown during telecasts of Hong Kong racing, other than those of our commingling partner”.

TABCorp is the club’s commingling partner, receiving bets on Hong Kong races through its parimutuel channels then relaying them into our home pools.

However, on Wednesday night, the Racing.com coverage was wall-to-wall exposure for the corporate bookmaking firm, CrownBet, a full-time partner of Racing.com’s telecasts of racing in the state of Victoria.

Like other bookmaking firms overseas, CrownBet also offers fixed odds wagering on Hong Kong without Jockey Club permission.

“The first we knew of this was through social media – the Racing.com channel is geoblocked so that we cannot watch it in Hong Kong and we could not be sure that what we were hearing was correct,” Cheung said yesterday.

“There was some conflicting evidence about the situation, too, so we want to be sure. However, plainly we have entered this situation to benefit our commingling and commingling partner and do not expect that these telecasts will advertise fixed odds on our races or any betting organisation other than TABCorp. That would be a violation of our interests and a violation of the spirit of this agreement.”

Cheung said the club would have further discussions in-housebefore deciding on the future of the telecasts, with the next scheduled for Sunday.

“Actually, this is a shock for us,” he said. “We are discussing, internally, what our options may be, so I cannot say at this time what those options are or what option we might take.”

Wednesday night’s Racing.com feed should have been the easy one to keep “clean” as there was only the Happy Valley meeting to be shown.

On Sunday, the Sha Tin meeting will share the telecast, overlapping with meetings shown from Pakenham and Warrnambool in Victoria and making a presentation without mentioning corporate bookmakers far more difficult, if not impossible.

http://www.scmp.com/sport/racing/article/1962954/ambushed-jockey-club-reviews-deal-after-aussie-partner-allows-bookie

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That really is quite staggering. How could Racing.com allow a betting operator illegally running a fixed odds book on Hong Kong racing to do this during the feed? What are they thinking? Insanity.
 
 
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Suggest someone will get sacked over this. HKJC not happy
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acing.com’s much trumpeted coverage of Hong Kong racing may have fallen at the first hurdle, due to its presentation of the inaugural meeting from Happy Valley on Wednesday night.

The Hong Kong Jockey Club is meeting today where it may end the “multi-year” agreement with racing.com after just one meeting, all over the appearance of CrownBet during the coverage.

The South China Morning Post’s Alan Aitken reported that the HKJC felt racing.com’s opening coverage “amounted to a four-hour commercial for a fixed odds bookmaker“ – that being CrownBet, with their representative Matt Campbell on the racing.com hosting panel.

“We do not expect that these telecasts will advertise fixed odds on our races or any betting organisation other than TABCorp. That would be a violation of our interests and a violation of the spirit of this agreement,” Richard Cheung Che-kit, the executive director of marketing and customer management said.

Already, the Hong Kong Jockey Club says it’s discussing the matter internally before deciding how to best react. It is understood the HKJC was aware of CrownBet’s involvement in the racing.com coverage, but is unhappy it may have overstepped agreed parameters.

TABCorp is the HKJC’s co-mingling partner, with Australian punters betting into the massive local pools via its pari-mutuel channels.

The SCMP reported the HKJC club had received assurances of a clean feed for Hong Kong racing, and said the “deal with Racing.com explicitly agrees that there are to be no logos or online referrals to betting sites shown during telecasts of Hong Kong racing, other than those of our commingling partner”.

“The first we knew of this was through social media – the Racing.com channel is geoblocked so that we cannot watch it in Hong Kong and we could not be sure that what we were hearing was correct,” Cheung said in the SCMP.

“There was some conflicting evidence about the situation, too, so we want to be sure. However, plainly, we have entered this situation to benefit our commingling and commingling partner.”

CrownBet is the major wagering partner for racing.com and is embedded in the coverage of all Victorian races. Racing.com is a joint venture between Victorian racing clubs, industry and Seven West Media.

The coverage of Hong Kong racing has been available via Sky Channel, but the HKJC has been disappointed in the scheduling treatment it has been given and saw the opportunity to provide content via racing.com as an opportunity for broader coverage and a chance to grow the co-mingled pari-mutuel pools.

Racing.com announced last month the “multi-year agreement” to cover Hong Kong racing with 84 meetings scheduled for the next season, though it brought forward the arrangement to last Wednesday.

“As a channel, racing.com just keeps getting better,” Seven West media CEO Tim Worner said at the time.

“The team is driven by new ideas. We are looking, in this partnership with racing Victoria, to make sure that premium racing product has a natural home on racing.com.”

On the announcement of the racing.com coverage, its chairman David Moodie (also Racing Victoria chair) said: "It is a privilege for racing.com to be afforded the honour to showcase such high quality content and that is why this partnership with the Hong Kong Jockey Club is the perfect fit.”

The HKJC CEO Winfried Englebrecht-Bresges said at the time: ““This development is a win for the overseas distribution of Hong Kong racing and will enable the growth of our commingling business. Australians will know on which channel they can find Hong Kong’s exciting racing.”

That situation is now in jeopardy unless there can be a resolution between the HKJC and racing.com before Sunday’s scheduled Sha Tin meeting, which is due to drop in between the Warrnambool and Pakenham coverage – which will include Crown Bet fixed odds.

“We are discussing, internally, what our options may be – so I cannot say at this time what those options are or what option we might take.” Mr Cheung said.

The racing.com coverage of Hong Kong had already been stymied by Sky Channel invoking a deal with Foxtel to prevent it from being shown on racing.com’s Ch529. The coverage was only available on free-to-air Ch. 78 in the metropolitan areas, Ch. 68 in country and regional.

A comment from racing.com has been sought.

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The arrogance is truly astounding.
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Quite bizarre that there has been nothing but silence from racing.com today after the abnormal plug they gave HK in the lead up, with tweet after tweet building it up.
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Agreed, very odd. Something not right
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We all knew that Hong Kong racing does not licence Fixed Odds betting. I wondered what was actually in this for Racing.com ?

I was and am still hopeful Racing.com might broadcast UK racing where their betting partners would be able to get full use of their product. Currently SKY channel gelatis down at 4am and Comapnies like Ladbrokes only cover what ever the TABs cover. Other betting agencies cover all the racing and might be better off if Racing.com was covering it.

Mind you the scum that are in control of Sky have probably tied those markets up as well. Angry




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Cannot understand how racing.com believed they would get away with it . Incompetence to put it mildly !
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Cannot understand how racing.com believed they would get away with it . Incompetence to put it mildly !

Even we all knew. Can only assume they though they would get away with it.
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Wonder how much Crownbet pay for advertising?
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Wow wee. Another own goal by RV. To be fair, I think Racing.com is the best thing RV have done in the more recent past, to then taunt the Chinese with the Crown Bet promo beggars belief.  Bet you any fixed odds you like (pun intended) that wasn't disclosed during contract negotiations for broadcast rights Confused
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Originally posted by Uluru Uluru wrote:

Wow wee. Another own goal by RV. To be fair, I think Racing.com is the best thing RV have done in the more recent past, to then taunt the Chinese with the Crown Bet promo beggars belief.  Bet you any fixed odds you like (pun intended) that wasn't disclosed during contract negotiations for broadcast rights Confused


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HKJC knew Crownbet would be involved in the telecast, but not to the extent of having Matt Campbell on and displaying fixed odds bets.
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HKJC's fault for not doing due diligence. I mean they already have their races broadcast here by Sky Channel which is owned by the TAB. For a race club that prides itself on world's best practice this is embarrassing
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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Originally posted by Uluru Uluru wrote:

Wow wee. Another own goal by RV. To be fair, I think Racing.com is the best thing RV have done in the more recent past, to then taunt the Chinese with the Crown Bet promo beggars belief.  Bet you any fixed odds you like (pun intended) that wasn't disclosed during contract negotiations for broadcast rights Confused


Strategic planning is something RV seem to do rather well. Far better than other jurisdictions, to be sure. The actual nuts and bolts running of things seems entirely different. Hapless is the word that comes to mind, but that may be cutting them too much slack.


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HKJC's fault for not doing due diligence. I mean they already have their races broadcast here by Sky Channel which is owned by the TAB. For a race club that prides itself on world's best practice this is embarrassing
 
 
What a crock of sh.t. TAB don't offer fixed odds and racing.com assured HKJC they wouldn't either. What more are they supposed to do? Due diligence please.
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The HKJC commingled pools are a joke.  The HKJC should not be allowed to have a commingled pool where the local players play under different rules to the overseas players.  With the HKJC pools the locals have access to rebates while the overseas players do not.  Betting into these pools via Tabcorp is madness as you will be killed by all the rebate players betting directly with the HKJC
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