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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote furious Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Oct 2019 at 6:06pm
We are molly coddling the young ones and then wonder why they have no fight when it gets tough.
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Racing 2yos isn’t the problem furious. It’s how much money’s available to them that’s the problem.
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Sorry can't argue at the moment.  Hearts not in it.  
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It's really perverse. They're offering huge money at these restricted sales races BECAUSE their horses are garbage. Why ELSE would you buy them?

We're a long way down the rabbit hole now, Alice.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote furious Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 2019 at 6:09pm
Just a thought.  One four year old in the silver eagle was breed overseas.  It was older than the entire field but it finished last.  This is a four year old race Judge not money for the babies.  It was like David and Goliath with the Inevitable and Fasika.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote furious Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 2019 at 6:11pm
Likewise yes Cape of Good Hope is breed overseas but his dam is Australian from a great female line.  Just because they go to stud doesn't mean they don't contribute to the racing population in the future.  And NSW is trying to keep them going into their four year old career with these new races.  
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Buffalo River was actually younger than the rest of the field. He is still a Northern Hemisphere three year old foaled in March 2016.

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well that makes sense.  My mind isn't working at the moment at all.

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furious, the three big races at a mile and beyond today were won by imports. This is not an isolated occurrence. It's almost inevitable. O/s horses or imports won 20 odd G1 races last calendar year. And that was with Winx, and without them  contesting 2 and 3yo events.

Interesting that unfashionably bred horses from WA and Tasmania are punching above their weight.
The major breeding centres in this country are churning out a conga line of cream puffs. You can keep polishing this turd, but it still stinks.
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Not really they buy up the older lines which have become unfashionable in the sales ring but still breed good horses
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OK they are winning these races yet our mares and stallion overseas have had winners in the Epsom Derby, Dubai World Cup, Epsom Oaks.  Same stallions and bloodlines found here.  Could be nothing developed while Winx was so supreme.  Or as I said we are been to kind to our horses.  What does a baby do.  It struggles all the way to get better and better.  Same with young horses or any young animal.  They struggle to learn what they must to survive in the world they are in.  They get Exceed and Excels to run over a distance!  We can hardly get them to run 1600m.

It's easy to import a late three year old or four year old with all the background already done.  Look Rekindling went out over 2000m as a  2yo and finished last.  Our trainers would say.  Oh well he can't stay!

Never stop believing the horses are here.  They are you just have to find them and develop them to be  best they can be.  After all we still have lots of branches of Cape of Good Hopes family here.  As well as so many others to work with over a distance.
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Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

OK they are winning these races yet our mares and stallion overseas have had winners in the Epsom Derby, Dubai World Cup, Epsom Oaks.  Same stallions and bloodlines found here.  Could be nothing developed while Winx was so supreme.  Or as I said we are been to kind to our horses.  What does a baby do.  It struggles all the way to get better and better.  Same with young horses or any young animal.  They struggle to learn what they must to survive in the world they are in.  They get Exceed and Excels to run over a distance!  We can hardly get them to run 1600m.

It's easy to import a late three year old or four year old with all the background already done.  Look Rekindling went out over 2000m as a  2yo and finished last.  Our trainers would say.  Oh well he can't stay!

Never stop believing the horses are here.  They are you just have to find them and develop them to be  best they can be.  After all we still have lots of branches of Cape of Good Hopes family here.  As well as so many others to work with over a distance.

furious- we give our babies squilions of dollars in racing's shallowest talent pool. How on earth does this make them "struggle all the way to get better and better"? How can you make that comment and not see the obvious?Confused
 



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Just look at things differently Judge.  It's not impossible to see a field of imports racing here at the moment with one Aussie in the mix.  Sometimes that one wins against the odds so I'm just saying don't give up on them.  The blood is still there.  If we don't believe in them who will.
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