Maddie Raymond
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Topic: Maddie Raymond
Posted By: Shawy38
Subject: Maddie Raymond
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2020 at 7:30pm
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Warrnambool trainer Maddie Raymond is set to saddle up her first runner at Caulfield on Wednesday - a horse boasting a win over one-time Melbourne Cup favourite Constantinople. The galloper, Wentwood, will kick-off his Australian racing career in race eight - a BM70 Handicap over 1400m. A five-year-old son of Pour Mois, Wentwood raced under the expert tutelage of Dermot Weld in Ireland before owner Glyn Davies decided a change of scenery was in order for the gelding. "I've been good friends with Glyn Davies over the years. I've worked with some of his horses and he was really keen to send one over to me when I got my licence," Raymond told Punters. Wentwood has taken some time to acclimatise to Australian conditions, but looked sharp winning an 800m jump-out at Stawell on January 7. After stepping just evenly from the stalls, Wentwood moved up to join the pacesetter about three-off the fence before running to a clear lead around the home bend. A two-length buffer at the top of the straight quickly became about six, with Wentwood romping away from his rivals to score in a slick time of 47.15 seconds - not far off Begood Toya Mother's winning time in a different heat on the same morning. "It was a little unexpected," Raymond said of Wentwood's jump-out performance. "It was a big question mark going to the trials because he's taken a little while to get settled over here. "He's still got a fair bit of improvement to come so I was pretty happy with how he trialled." Wentwood defeated Constantinople - fourth in last year's Caulfield Cup (2400m) - over 2048m at Cork back in April last year, but Raymond doesn't think punters should get too carried away with that. "I know he beat Constantinople but it was Wentwood's preferred trip and Constantinople was using that as a bit of a starting point for his prep - plus he got held up - so we don't want to hype him up too much." Raymond doesn't have any set plans for Wentwood beyond Wednesday, but believes we'll see his best between a mile and 2000m. "He's still got his winter coat on him, so we'll just run him at Caulfield and reassess after that. "I might tip him back out for a little break but it will just depend on how he runs basically - you can't rush things with these imports. "Glyn (Davies) and Dermot Weld think he's a genuine 2000m horse but I think he might be a bit sharper than that. "The racing here is a fair bit different to the racing over there and his work so far has shown that he would be competitive over 1200m first-up but we're going to 1400m." Although new to running her own stable, Raymond has a solid grounding in the racing game and is currently working as Lindsey Smith's assistant trainer at his Warrnambool base. "Lindsey's very easy-going and easy to work for. He's a brilliant horseman - I've learnt a lot from him," Raymond said. Wentwood is one of only two horses Raymond has in work, but the young horsewoman is in no great rush to expand her stable. "I'll just poke around with the two I've got and stick with Lindsey. I still have plenty to learn but hopefully Wentwood can get the ball rolling on Wednesday." |
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Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2020 at 8:03pm
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Interesting story. I’m actually surprised she’s allowed to have her very first runner competing at a metropolitan track. Didn’t there used to be different grades of training licence that stipulated a trainer had to have a certain number of starters at provincial/country meets before being allowed to start a horse in town ? Anyways, good luck to Maddie with Wentwood 👍 |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2020 at 8:17pm
https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/HorseFullForm.aspx?HorseCode=MTEzNDcwMTc3NQ%3d%3d&src=trainer" rel="nofollow - Recent Form https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/HorseAllForm.aspx?HorseCode=MTEzNDcwMTc3NQ%3d%3d&src=trainer" rel="nofollow - All Form https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/HorseWinsPlacing.aspx?HorseCode=MTEzNDcwMTc3NQ%3d%3d&src=trainer" rel="nofollow - Wins & Placings https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/HorseWetForm.aspx?HorseCode=MTEzNDcwMTc3NQ%3d%3d&src=trainer" rel="nofollow - Wet Form https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeServices/HorseSearch_Embargoes.aspx?HorseCode=MTEzNDcwMTc3NQ%3d%3d&src=trainer" rel="nofollow - Embargoes https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeServices/HorseSearch_GearChanges.aspx?HorseCode=MTEzNDcwMTc3NQ%3d%3d&src=trainer" rel="nofollow - Gear Changes https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeServices/HorseSearch_Ratings_Flats.aspx?HorseCode=MTEzNDcwMTc3NQ%3d%3d&src=trainer" rel="nofollow - Benchmark Rating https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/HorseEngagement.aspx?HorseCode=MTEzNDcwMTc3NQ%3d%3d&src=trainer" rel="nofollow - Acceptances | Weights | Nominations
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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2020 at 11:03am
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Raymond was a famous name in the breeding way back when. Wonder is she any relation. Remember Miss Ann Raymond, and her family in Vic ? ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2020 at 2:31pm
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Was Maddie part of the Weir team at Warrnambool before Smith took over? If we're going to tar an entire stable, we may as well be thorough
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Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2020 at 3:14pm
You are correct AA, Sledmere Stud then on to ST.Albin. Vic. Guy Raymond had a stallion I'm pretty sure by the name of Marazion when I worked for tony lopes , he was getting on in years , this was late 60s , ST.Albin had a lot of history including hiding away Phar Lap, the horse we had by Marazion was Vita, Guy use to visit. |
acacia alba wrote:Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2020 at 4:10pm
She was Prince of Penzance’s trackrider and strapper. Has worked for D Hayes and Willy Mullins as well |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2020 at 4:19pm
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There's something of an inference that everyone at Weir's stable knew what was happening, which imo is a long way from the truth. Someone who had reason to travel through Miners Rest actually said she'd seen dim lights on in the middle of the night, suggesting much of the alleged chemical goings on might have occurredunder the cover of dark. And many wouldn't have had the opportunity to find that jiggers were being used. |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2020 at 4:19pm
I think Guy was Miss A,s father ?? She hasnt been long gone. Geez she was ancient.  But one smart old bird.------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: Discohips23
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2020 at 7:50pm
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2020 at 8:00pm
What the hell has that got to do with this thread? Go post on one of the multiple Weir ones  ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2020 at 8:01pm
Well he's been disqualified for four years and didn't contest the charges.  |
Posted By: Discohips23
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2020 at 8:20pm
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2020 at 8:27pm
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Where the hell do you get the opinion that I'm a Weir sympathizer? What don't you understand about "What the hell has that (Weir's guilt) got to do with this thread? Go post on one of the multiple Weir ones
 In fact, just what if anything do you understand?  |
Posted By: Discohips23
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2020 at 9:22pm
| Oh please. Whenever there has been anything published on here that remotely questions integrity, you have always done your best to play it down. I’m more than happy to throw my hand up for what I believe in, and I’m just as happy for you to do the same. What I won’t cop is being questioned by the “mediator”. If I put my comment on the Weir thread I would have had it censored or received an “inbox” comment. You write what you wish, and I’ll write what I wish to write. Members definitely know where I stand and members know where you stand. |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2020 at 11:26pm
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The circle stinks. And it has every right to infiltrate this thread. Every person that worked for Weir, certainly at a high level will have mud on their names. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 8:37am
You ignoramus. Does this sound like I'm playing Weir's indiscretions down? "Someone who had reason to travel through Miners Rest actually said she'd seen dim lights on in the middle of the night, suggesting much of the alleged chemical goings on might have occurred under the cover of dark" |
Posted By: breeding_above_all
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 8:41am
| Strapped and track rider of POP... enough said |
Posted By: SHOVHOG
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 9:55am
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She was a useful idiot I’m led to believe. ------------- " In gambling the many must lose in order for the few to win" |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 12:56pm
| Most of them just did what they were told, didn’t ask questions and got sucked in by an evil twisted criminal mastermind |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 1:26pm
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Funnily enough, people need to live & in order to do this, they either bludge off the government or seek employment. A few of those looking for work, love & have their own horses so, given racing is the main award paying equine industry, this is where they seek a position. However, most looking for work tend to prefer to seek jobs within driving distance of their residence which tends to narrow the choice, even more so, away from the major cities where many large stables are found. Labelling as a likely cheat, every employee or ex of any trainer convicted multiple times is extremely narrow minded & twisted, so much for the iconic "A fair go"  You work in a racing stable, you put your head down & get on with it because if you leave for no good reason, a decent reference won't be forthcoming, the word quickly goes round & before you know it, you're stacking s/market shelves. Yes it is that bad. ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 3:04pm
| So you're saying she's at least open to the idea of a little shock therapy. Just a means to an end. |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 3:46pm
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Not at all! I'm saying that whilst staff may well know or suspect what a trainer's doing, it doesn't mean they condone it. Retention of jobs very often entails turning a blind eye, no matter the industry. ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: Glencoe
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 4:50pm
| Doesn't condone the action bur survival is a necessary element of life |
Posted By: Discohips23
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 5:46pm
| The industry has been screaming out for stable employees for years. It’s a known fact that it has trouble getting new participants involved due to the low wages and work conditions (eg hours). Don’t tell me that it’s an excuse for an employee of a training establishment to turn a blind eye to what their employer is doing because they would find it hard to find another job, are you kidding me?. Sleep with dogs and you get flees, and this arrangement has infestation written all over it. |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 6:37pm
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I know it as fact! You're blacklisted everywhere in that State.No one will employ a snitch if you go that far & if you give 'a change of scenery' as reason & head to another trainer, don't expect a glowing reference even if deserved. What's the difference between Maddie, Daniel, Mitch & other ex Weir employees then? How come they too don't have potentially slanderous threads? Perhaps because she's female? Involved closely with a Melb. Cup winner? She's not even a tall poppy  ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 6:51pm
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What good is a glowing reference when remuneration is at the award rate? When I play cards with the kids, I give them the opportunity to pick up their trump card if they've gone early with it. They know that I know they've got it, but the aim is to help them get better at the game.... that being said, I think it's only fair that you get the opportunity to pick the gender card back up & hang on to it for another day.
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 7:10pm
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You're wasting your time Gay, because all the experts here know in their own minds that everyone on the payroll with Weir well knew what was going on. In reality a handful or two clearly would have known about the jiggers, because you have to remain "tight" to kep int in house. Others may have clearly suspected. Most employees however simply strapped or shoveled sh1t and were just glad to be employed. However there's actually two issues here: one is about jiggers (the disqualification) and the other about Chinese "herbs" and associated "assistance". Weir pleaded no contest to the animal cruelty (jigger) charge and was probably relieved to cop just four years. Because as for the other, which was what I earlier referred to as "activities under the cloak of dark" I believe without evidence that this was where animals were injected or swallowed all sort of stuff before efficacy was proven one way or another on the training track. Failures (and there is evidence) ended up at the tip or the doggers. But that aside, only a few employees would have known diddly about subsequent doping. Where Maddie fits into all this is your call. |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 7:20pm
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What good is a glowing reference when remuneration is at the award rate? - Red Hare What's at stake is employment, not level of salary! ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 7:32pm
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Posted By: Discohips23
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 7:50pm
| For a start. Daniel Bowman and Mitch Freedman we’re working about a dozen older broken down ones that needed the beach. They weren’t there during Weirs “prime”. Maddie Raymond was, and now she trains a couple under her own name out of Lindsey Smiths stable. This is heading exactly the same way as Weir and McLean. I’m more than happy to cal it guilt by association, just as I will listening to the silence from the “believers” when one or both get outed. |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 8:04pm
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I can assure you both were foremen consecutively at Miners Rest when blinkers hung ominously & continuously on one particular treadmill, tho' in their capacity, they didn't operate these, that I'm aware of. However, despite turning a blind eye, they certainly learned how to train well as evidenced by their results. Sometimes one needs to off off one's nose to spite the face  'Everyone' knew what was going on for the previous 10 years, the surprise was the time it took to officially resolve. ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: Discohips23
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 8:13pm
| I have NEVER said at any time that all Weir ex employees should be tarred with the same brush, NEVER. I will however say whatever I wish about a situation that has all the hallmarks of past discretions. |
Posted By: SHOVHOG
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 8:50pm
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The racing industry has and always will be an echo chamber. Until it dies which it will within decades. ------------- " In gambling the many must lose in order for the few to win" |
Posted By: Straight arrow
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 10:17pm
| This is a crap read! The person worked for Australia’s biggest horse trainer. You do not become that big if you cannot train! She probably has learnt all the best ways to train and seen many other things in the process? But everyone is an individual! Narrow minded people want to paint with one brush. |
Posted By: Mr Grieves
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 11:12pm
You can if you cheat.
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Posted By: Discohips23
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 11:19pm
| blah blah blah. So the horse, Wentwood, that was racing in Group company in Europe, now bought and owned by the same individuals that race a So You Think (entire) that had 8 starts for 5 WINS and TWO SECONDS for Weir and now in the hands of Lindsey Smith, has been handed over to an individual who has had their license five minutes. You don’t think for one minute this is odd? An owner with ties to both Weir and Smith giving a horse to someone with absolutely no credentials other than also having ties to the same people?. I can remember Smith and a couple of his owners throwing McLean a bone or two not so long ago, namely Cougar Express and Trap For Fools. |
Posted By: Mayor
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 11:21pm
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Hey all, I'm watching this thread. Please let's not let it get out of hand with false accusations. There are a ton of good people who worked for the Weir stable and most have been absorbed into stables that have since become highly successful. They sure know how to train and look after horses. Aside from the convicted few, every other person must be treated as innocent or at least oblivious and deserves a chance to show what they are made of. Don't be a troll. Wishing only good things from the village. Cheers, Mayor
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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2020 at 11:41pm
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You're blacklisted everywhere in that State.No one will employ a snitch if
you go that far & if you give 'a change of scenery' as reason &
head to another trainer, don't expect a glowing reference even if
deserved. Too right. Come on you jokers. You must have been around stables long enough to know how things work ??  Surely ??? If you havnt been, and you dont know, get your heads out of the sand and go work in a stable for awhile and try your luck as a snitch when seeking other work.I never even worked in a racing stable, but I did do the hard yards in other breeds stables, and if you dont believe word travels, and work drys up, when you try and do the right thing by the horse, when your employer is an ass, you live in La la Land. On the other hand, work for a straight trainer and you have no worries. ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2020 at 12:31am
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OK Boomer. Keep that wheel rolling. Not my pig, not my farm. |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2020 at 12:44am
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Its your farm alright. You are just snoozing under the pig. ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2020 at 11:08am
I think it is the whole Weir - Smith and now still employed with Smith and doing similar to McLean, Working for Smith and her own horses. It just has an absolute stink to it. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2020 at 11:15am
Who are these people that do not employ snitches ? They should be ostracised as much as the convicted. And when the industry is brought to its knees and caves in, everybody who said nothing will deserve exactly what they get. Really, the "Industry" is a disgrace. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Sister Dot
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2020 at 11:35am
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Doesn’t bode well for the horses, when even the people who feel sorry for them and know that it’s wrong, have to swallow their objections and principles, just to stay in the industry they love? It all comes back to the love of money, which in many cases exceeds all else. Pity those that put success at whatever cost to the kind and obliging horse, can’t find a job working with racing cars, bikes, boats, anything that can’t feel stress, pain or discomfort🥵🤬 ------------- “Where in this wide world can man find nobility without pride, friendship without envy, or beauty without vanity? Here where grace is laced with muscle and strength by gentleness confined” |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2020 at 6:34pm
| Great first up effort |
Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2020 at 8:16pm
Bigger myth than chemtrails. Anyone who is actively looking to punish whistleblowers is complicit.
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2020 at 8:26pm
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Anyone who is actively looking to punish whistleblowers is complicit. Fat lot of good that does the whistleblower  Tell me any industry in which a whistleblower is no worse of after revealing all  For example:
https://www.facebook.com/max.igan.1?__tn__=%2CdCH-R-R&eid=ARCb9ELp0jQTy14inVEQ2xx1kG80KR_vEGvTYF7SV8Gq2EQM2b9NKIIR8hNmt3G2kMOAeS_Nw0cLAIPR&hc_ref=ARS1vDCAgaA_f-okVKjZ6Xt4kIl_mJ-EtRUWPhGz56Fbaf1_tzI8Dx7op1z1lkFRx5I&fref=nf&hc_location=group" rel="nofollow - Max Igan
https://www.facebook.com/max.igan.1/posts/2811845708876716" rel="nofollow - - - 15 January at 10:50 I have not been arrested. the rumours people are spreading are false but it has been an extremely intense few days. I have a lot to share but need to go underground for a while, will message when again I can. ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2020 at 8:40pm
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Got to actually see her today, interviewed. Spoke well. ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2020 at 8:50pm
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I agree aa. Hopefully she can snag a few winners
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Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2020 at 10:00pm
Who the kiss is Max Igan?
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Posted By: Discohips23
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2020 at 11:05pm
| I’ve never heard of Max Igan, and never heard of a single person / whistle blower who has gone to Racing Victoria with a report of systematic cheating within their work place, full stop, let alone if someone had and the “system” lett them down. Happy to be proved wrong. |
Posted By: Bonjour
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2020 at 7:38am
That brave young lady Kate Goodrich went to RVL with a tale of woe, one of the worst bullying stories I've ever read, RVL were disgusting in their investigations, the behaviour there was and still is in question, and I believe this is before the courts. I hope Kate gets her just rewards, her life will never be the same. The reason I mention this in the same context Disco, is that in my opinion RVL is not to be trusted, if the behaviour at Weir's was Victoria's worst kept secret, for so long. then he should have been gone many years ago.
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Posted By: Discohips23
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2020 at 11:09am
| Appreciate the KG story, whilst not fully understanding it. When mediation is called in it is apparent that someone isn’t prepared to take some responsibility for the situation. My comment was in response to one made about if you snitch to the authorities, your career is doomed. I would imagine if you were honest and snitched on Weir for instance, there would be no way you’d get a run in stables like Lamming or Gelagotis, if of course “the word gets out”. But to hold the opinion that you are doomed if you do is delusional. If you had the qualities stables like P.Carey, G.Eurell, N.Blackiston, P.Payne, M.Moroney, etc are needing, I’m sure you’d be employed. |
Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2020 at 3:37pm
| If whistleblowers were so badly treated, who snitched on Weir then? |
Posted By: Sister Dot
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2020 at 3:56pm
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Don’t think Julian Assanges life was ever quite the same....... ------------- “Where in this wide world can man find nobility without pride, friendship without envy, or beauty without vanity? Here where grace is laced with muscle and strength by gentleness confined” |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2020 at 4:10pm
Some of his ‘staff’ were undercover cops
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2020 at 4:18pm
Which is half ironic, because from the 60's right through to the 90's half the Ballarat cops turned a blind eye to institutional pedophilia in the Catholic church.  Sorry to even further hijack the actual thread of "Maddie Raymond" who was just one of Weir's scores of employees.
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Posted By: Discohips23
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2020 at 8:40pm
Comparing the calling out of War atrocities and the use of information for the purpose of vote rigging in a Presidential election, and notifying a racing body of stable indiscretions. Really?
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2020 at 8:43pm
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Let's see how she goes, She is licenced and the powers that be are obviously happy for her to be so. Hopefully she does not geld for the sake of it and is a proper horseman. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Discohips23
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2020 at 8:54pm
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Gay, Is there are thread for these “anti-paedophilic” comments? Surely we can’t have this “link” to the Maddie Raymond thread! Like Weir, all Pedos (even the tried & true Ballarat ones) should be respected on this site by all who use it. Innocent til proven guilty, eh! And like Weir, all these paedophiles had their believers. Over to you.
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Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2020 at 9:54pm
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What are peoples opinion of Simon Miller then, a successful trainer in Perth, has had runners in Victoria, and was once a part of the Aquanita stable. He left just before the revelations. Would he have seen a thing or two? Same situation.
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Posted By: HarmersHaven
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2020 at 10:07pm
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I often thought the same thing about Lloyd's (ahem!) trainer - Liam H. He was 2IC at Smerdon's stable prior to Macedon Lodge - clearly remember him there around the Mosheen era. I'm yet to reconcile, when you're second in charge, if you don't know what's going on surely you're derelict in your duties. If you did know what's going on, well, I'm really not sure how to finish that sentence... ------------- Without data, you're just another person with an opinion. |
Posted By: Discohips23
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2020 at 10:28pm
| Name a past Aquanita trainer who has never been charged. When you find that out, there’s your answer. |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2020 at 2:04pm
Good question, however to be fair Simon was with Aquanita for a very short time before accepting the appointment as its WA trainer. He departed Victoria in 2008, almost 12 years ago now.
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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2020 at 2:33pm
| Just trained her first winner at Donald with a horse previously trained by her boss Lindsey Smith |
Posted By: Straight arrow
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2020 at 3:12pm
| Sounds a quality horse person |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2020 at 2:41pm
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Interesting, Lindsay Smith going like a busted and her gelding Wentwood goes like an unfit busted. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2020 at 2:10pm
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Stable slowly growing. Another former Smith inmate. Current Stable
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2020 at 2:12pm
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Two of these pick up are Peter Moody horses. General Bordeaux and Tovolo Gap. Wonder if he takes over when he is up and running. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2020 at 2:13pm
And Cunnamulla. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2020 at 2:14pm
And Ashworth ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2020 at 6:03pm
| Could she be pre-training ? |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2020 at 4:49pm
| Wentwood wins the St Arnaud Cup |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2020 at 10:26pm
Ridden by Harry Coffey !!! What a win !  More to the point, what a collect .
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Posted By: Foxseal
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2020 at 1:20pm
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Is todays win by Wentwood in the 2600m race at Flemington, her first city winner? Either way, well done!
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Posted By: brave_ponies
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2021 at 8:26pm
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Great to see Maddie win her first Group race today. Exciting mare too!
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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2021 at 12:20am
Yes, good on her. I read a story about her and that horse, and seriously thought about a Tri on it and the 2 Tassie mares, but dont have any money in my TAB account and my bank wont let me use my card on gambling sites  ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2021 at 12:36am
Turaath in line for $1.6 million prizeTuraath has put herself in line for a $1.6 million pay day after the English-bred mare extended her winning run in Melbourne to four with a gusty victory in the Group 2 Let's Elope Stakes at Flemington on Saturday. The Maddie Raymond-trained mare overcame a wide run and some worthy rivals to score in what is the first leg of a new $1m bonus for mares who win the Let's Elope and follow it with victory in the $1m G1 Empire Rose Stakes (1600m) on October 30. In quite an extraordinary performance, Turaath managed to race wide for the majority of the 1400-metre race but still kicked clear inside the 200-metre mark to establish a winning break. On the line, Turaath ($5.50) was a length-and-three-quarters clear of Mystic Journey ($14), who finished on from the rear, with fellow Tasmanian mare Still A Sar ($6) a neck away in third. The win registered a treble for jockey Damian Lane, after earlier Flemington victories aboard Tooradin (Race 1) and Harbour Views (Race 5). "I'm still shaking," Raymond said after her first Stakes success as a trainer. "I had to catch my breath coming down here. I'm super excited. "She's such a tough mare. She didn't do it easy again. She sat out wide with no cover and she was rock-hard fit and super competitive. "She stepped just half a stride slow. We did think she'd settle wide with cover, which didn't work out either. She was super fit going into it. Such a tough, honest horse. "We've been looking for a reason not to come (to the races today) and give her a break but she's so tough. If anything, you treat her like a colt. She eats well, she thrives off her work and she's shown that today." Raymond said that although she is concerned the mare has been up for a while, she will look at stepping her to 1600 metres for the first time in the Empire Rose. "The way she relaxed today - even in the mounting yard and out the back - she's definitely improving," she said. Lane explained that he'd never ridden the mare before but did expect her to lead. "She normally flies the gates and everyone was probably expecting her to lead, but it didn't eventuate and I let her cruise through her gears and she sat third," he said. "I was always confident in the run that I had plenty in the locker." $4 favourite Instant Celebrity got a long way back and while she did make some ground late for sixth place, vets later revealed she had mucus on the scope following the race. ------------- Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2022 at 4:25pm
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To matthew, This is notification of a upcoming horse(s) run from your Black Book. (NB All race times local)
28 Feb 22 HAMILTON Race 03 - 02:30 1100m - Brandt Hamilton Mdn Plate [LR: 163 days]
Your Black Book Comment: https://bfbigjf.r.bh.d.sendibt3.com/tr/cl/aPkoEp3coAmLUGOzPyBrMm7KAzDdyt4SepbJnWM1_wTAFdnSZg8MYGUBRZWIZQdo1XDkjg_-FyAkKfu9eyEWWFLi8YbjPVtzoeyTynh7rfMndc2kVDaC0KHUiaCmt2WbHccTuzQ8F0Y0c5tl4oDxP7hmvBBk5Q4qIr2acRLrNWrK-RjcbazJ6NZemjXQfm4N-Ez35DWnPAvqnX7day5KrsNsDNTY35IKGNfeJnIrt3bR7SqKvvfy8yjLUrI" rel="nofollow - [Click to Edit Comment] Bought cheaply by Maddy Raymond. Nice pedigree.
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2022 at 2:30pm
In-form Raymond builds teamMaddie Raymond ended her career-best season on a winning note at The Valley on Saturday when Home Rule provided her 19th win for the season. Striking
the winners stall at 20 per cent in recent months, it's Raymond's
quality over quantity approach which saw the young trainer notch three
Group wins across the season. As she prepares for the upcoming spring, the Warrnambool-based trainer will have some familiar names but also new names she hopes will continue the winning run next season. Raymond will stick to a sprinting preparation with Turaath as she plots spring goals with her leading mare. “We always thought last prep we would try and stretch her out to a mile but I think she is best at that 1200-1400 metre trip,” Raymond explained. “She ran third to Marabi in the Australia Stakes and that was in preparation for a 1400 metre run so I think we will train her a bit more like a sprinter rather than teach her to settle for a mile. “Something like a Manikato might be up her sleeve this time.” Stringing four wins together last year culminating in the G2 Lets Elope at 1400 metres, Raymond stretched the mare out to 1600 metres in her autumn campaign. Raymond said other sprinting races such as the Schillaci, Moir and Darley Sprint are also on her radar. “She’s a ripper, she’s very tough and very honest,” Raymond professed. “She had a decent break and probably hasn’t had one ever in her life because they don’t really spell them like we do overseas. “We probably won’t see her until a bit later on the spring. “She is just starting her fast work now.” Raymond has also added a new acquisition to her Warrnambool base in Heart of Puissance, but he won’t be seen this spring. “We are going to give him a break,” Raymond explained. “His preference is those softer and wet tracks and he has had his niggles along the way so we’ve gelded him as well. “But just a change of environment and the beach access will help him immensely.” The six-year-old has raced 14 times for four victories. He last raced during the Warrnambool Carnival finishing second after eight months on the sidelines. Another newcomer to join the stable is former Lloyd Williams-owned galloper Cormorant who Darren Freyer paid $105,000 for via online auction earlier this year. “He’s good really really good overseas form and didn’t bring that over to Australia,” Raymond admits. “But if we can regenerate that he is a really handy horse. “We gave him a break and he’s at Fulmen Park on the water walker and due back next week. “If he puts his hand up he might be seen later in the carnival as well. “He is the kind of horse that would match up against Wentwood in the bigger country cups.” With his ownership group, Raymond said the 2023 Warrnambool Cup could be high on his agenda. Last years Bendigo Cup winner Wentwood would be put on a similar path which also includes the Coongy and Ballarat Cup. ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2022 at 4:11pm
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No mention of her best horse Earlswood. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2022 at 4:30pm
Current Stable
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