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Topic: Your favorite races in Australia
Posted By: ChrisB
Subject: Your favorite races in Australia
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 3:23pm
Ok. So i grew up loving the Melbourne Cup but in recent years I've completely gone off it. Too many Internationals, lining up form etc etc.

So my 5 favorite races that i look forward to, in order, are as follows;

Cox Plate
Doncaster
VRC Sprint
Queen Elizabeth
Newmarket.

Yours? No right or wrong here, just opinion!



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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 3:42pm
Depends entirely on who is in the race.


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Posted By: ChrisB
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 3:48pm
Of course that increases or decreases the appeal.

The question is on a yearly basis disregarding individual cases of star horses


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 3:51pm
Good thread.  Hope there's plenty of responses.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 3:55pm
Cox Plate
Golden Slipper
All Star Mile


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Posted By: ChrisB
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 4:11pm
All Star Mile?
Surely taking the piss....ha


Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 4:14pm
The golden slipper. As a child it was my birthday treat. A great day and race.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 4:14pm
It says favorite.

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Posted By: ChrisB
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 4:24pm
Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

The golden slipper. As a child it was my birthday treat. A great day and race.


That's interesting as I've never been that interested in the Slipper.

But with those memories no wonder is a special race to you. That's what i was looking for.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 4:27pm
Melbourne Cup
Caulfield Cup
Doncaster Handicap
Newmarket Handicap
TJ Smith Stakes
The Spring Stake Newcastle.



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Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 4:34pm
Breeders Plate
Gimcrack Stk.
G. Slipper
Epsom
AJC Derby
Doncaster.



Love em all , can't split fwiw.


Posted By: ChrisB
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 4:35pm
Yeah i probably forgot the Caulfield Cup a little.

Always a great race


Posted By: Xavier
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 4:39pm
Just to be different

1. Grand Annual at the Bool / May Carnival
2. Swan Hill carnival in June
3. Oakbank at Easter
4. Casterton Cup Day
5. Dederang Picnics

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Posted By: ChrisB
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 4:43pm
Originally posted by Xavier Xavier wrote:

Just to be different

1. Grand Annual at the Bool / May Carnival
2. Swan Hill carnival in June
3. Oakbank at Easter
4. Casterton Cup Day
5. Dederang Picnics


Never been to zny but I'm sure great days!

Down here in Tassie the Hobart Cup (where i am) is pretty ordinary but the Launnie Cup is a great festival day.


Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 4:52pm
Caulfield Cup
Melbourne Cup
Doncaster
Golden Slipper


Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 6:38pm
1. Grand Annual Steeplechase - Warrnambool 5500m

Just love going on that 7 minute journey in the ultimate test of horse & rider.

2. Melbourne Cup - Flemington 3200m

Still love the race & it’s iconic status. But I agree that is losing its lustre with the field being contaminated with too many o/s trained runners.

3. Great Eastern Steeple - Oakbank 4950m

For the same reasons as the GA Steeple

4. Any Steeplechase at Casterton - 3800m

Live hedges, open paddocks, and as Rick McIntosh says ‘where the Glenelg meets the Wannon’.

5. VRC Hotham Hcp - Flemington 2500m

Ok, a bit of a weird one. But I’ve always loved the theatre that this creates being the last desperate throw of the dice to qualify for the Melb Cup.


Posted By: Good Old Ted
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 7:15pm
Grand Annual at Warrnambool
Caulfield Guineas 
Doncaster 



Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 8:04pm
Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Melbourne Cup
Caulfield Cup
Doncaster Handicap
Newmarket Handicap
TJ Smith Stakes
The Spring Stake Newcastle.



It made me giggle that the top 4 are G1 Handicaps

Top 5 are all amongst my favourites as well, alongside the Cox Plate and Oakleigh Plate, probably the Stradbroke as well as a Queenslander.


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 8:39pm
ANY open grade or black type Races to 2040M .

All Open 2 Y/O & 3 Y/O races to 1600m

   F & M races to 1600m


Posted By: jacko1
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 8:59pm
Doncaster
Cox Plate (most interesting of the big spring 3 for me now since it has strong local chances)
Tancred (sure it's not the race it once was, but I still love the 2400m WFA concept)
Cantala Stakes (bit like the doncaster, big field and lots of chances)


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 9:03pm
Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Melbourne Cup
Caulfield Cup
Doncaster Handicap
Newmarket Handicap
TJ Smith Stakes
The Spring Stake Newcastle.



It made me giggle that the top 4 are G1 Handicaps

Top 5 are all amongst my favourites as well, alongside the Cox Plate and Oakleigh Plate, probably the Stradbroke as well as a Queenslander.


They are simply handicaps.



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Posted By: Speediskey
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 9:05pm
1. Cox Plate - WFA Championship
2. Golden Slipper - Always a great race
3. The Everest - Highest quality sprint each year
4. JJ Atkins - Usually the best reference as to which two year olds will be top three year olds.


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 7:49am
The melbourne cup has jumped the shark as far as I'm concerned.Tongue


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Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 8:46am
Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Melbourne Cup
Caulfield Cup
Doncaster Handicap
Newmarket Handicap
TJ Smith Stakes
The Spring Stake Newcastle.



It made me giggle that the top 4 are G1 Handicaps

Top 5 are all amongst my favourites as well, alongside the Cox Plate and Oakleigh Plate, probably the Stradbroke as well as a Queenslander.


They are simply handicaps.


Such is our want,.....long live the OZ tradition.


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 8:51am
Originally posted by Lord Hybrow Lord Hybrow wrote:

1. Grand Annual Steeplechase - Warrnambool 5500m

Just love going on that 7 minute journey in the ultimate test of horse & rider.

2. Great Eastern Steeple - Oakbank 4950m

For the same reasons as the GA Steeple

3. Any Steeplechase at Casterton - 3800m

Live hedges, open paddocks, and as Rick McIntosh says ‘where the Glenelg meets the Wannon’.



Well that saved a lot of typing.............or none at all LOL they're the exact 3 I had in mind but was too lazy to write in any detail, thanks LH Thumbs Up


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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 9:02am
My favourite race is the Coonabarabran Cup .  ( Thats where I met my OH over 25 years ago Heart )


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Posted By: Mayor
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 10:14am
Blue Diamond Stks
Caulfield Guineas
Lightning Stks
Newmarket Hcp
The Cup
Cox Plate


(Sorry about the Victorian focus)


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Posted By: Mr Grieves
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 1:49pm
The Cups
Cox Plate
Newmarket
Goodwood
Doncaster
Tancred



Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 1:55pm
Yes I love the Tancred also.  Really miss it now it's not of Golden Slipper Day.


Posted By: ChrisB
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 2:38pm
Originally posted by Mayor Mayor wrote:

Blue Diamond Stks
Caulfield Guineas
Lightning Stks
Newmarket Hcp
The Cup
Cox Plate


(Sorry about the Victorian focus)


Yeah having gun sprinters back for the Lightning, after quiet months beforehand, is something i look forward to as well.


Posted By: LuthersLuck
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2019 at 4:54am
Cox Plate - can’t go past it as the WFA championship

Doncaster - consistently the best mile race in the country and my favourite time of year

Golden Slipper - a guilty pleasure, but I just love the build up, watching the 2yo’s emerge

Apollo Stakes - biased because it was the first Stakes race Dad took me to (Red Anchor) but it remains a race that attracts a lot of top class runners returning for the Autumn, as do several races on the program on that race day. A very good opportunity to see the best horses without the crowds.


Posted By: TIGER
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2019 at 5:58am
Cessnock Jungle Juice Cup
Toowoomba Weetwood
Kalgoorlie Cup
Birdsville Cup
Darwin Cup

Nothing like country racing


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Posted By: ChrisB
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2019 at 2:01pm
Launnie Cup is a great day out, no doubt similar to those


Posted By: Majestic
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2019 at 6:54pm
Any race a horse I own wins 😂👍🍾🥂✌️👌


Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2019 at 6:04am
Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

The golden slipper. As a child it was my birthday treat. A great day and race.

I’m intrigued as why some have nominated the GS as one of their favourite races.

Rosehill today has got a fantastic race card. But personally, in terms of interest & excitement I don’t even have it rated in the top 5 races being run today. I’m much more excited about the Ryder, Rawson, Guineas, Manion Cup & Galaxy

The GS itself I can just never get enthusiastic about. They’re a bunch of 2yo’s who’ve only had a few starts racing for over $3m, just seems like hype over substance.


Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2019 at 6:16am
Because I work for this industry and the Golden Slipper changed the face of Australian Racing.  Some would say for the worst.  I don't think so.  Speed is always essential in a thoroughbred.  Golden Slipper speed is now short changed.  They used to then take them over at least a 1600m trip as a three year old.  Too often they don't now.  That could be undermining the standing of the race.  

But I'm off to the races today.  And appart from the Slipper I get to see Winx and The Autumn Sun and wonder if we are seeing the next superstar of the Australian Turf.  No one has stood up yet but lets say Lonhro is having a blinder of a two year old season both as a sire and grandsire.  Do his stock like it wet?  Can Medaglia D'oro do it again?  Will the Snitzel mudlarks both his daughter and grandson come out to play?  Commands is getting a pretty good look in.  The new next generation sires are in there with a terrific chance.  So many questions.  They may be a bunch of two year olds but they are the cream of their crop. 

Every other race you mention get parts of the cream of their generation - but usually just part of.  Because there are so many variables as they get older and distance preferences come into play.


Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2019 at 6:50am
Thanks for sharing furious, great reply.

Love your enthusiasm for the sport, have a great day out there today 👍


Posted By: LuthersLuck
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2019 at 7:25am
Really well said Furious.

For me it’s the build up, seeing the field take form from the first two year old races on Epsom Day in October, through to the Silver Slipper, the MM, the various Inglis races, the Blue Diamond, the Black Opal and then the weekly qualifying races as the Autumn carnival builds. As a youngster, even the old Brambles Classic at Kembla and Penfolds Classic at Newcastle would warrant a sneaky listen on the transistor radio at a school.

Then there is the breeding, watching the new sires emerge, often having been fans of the them as racehorses a few years earlier. It would be fascinating to see a first year sire come along and dominate, like in the mid 80’s when the ill fated Adraan came out of nowhere and had about 4 or 5 in the field (Magic Flute, Bataan and Khaaptivaan come to mind), only to be beaten by a one of the last good horses produced by a veteran local sire. It was to be Adraan’s one and only Australian crop from memory.

It’s those two unique factors that put the GS on my list.



Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2019 at 9:48am
As far as the Golden Slipper is concerned I go back to the very first when the great sire Star Kingdom blew them all out of the water winning the first five, very hard to forget moments like that imo, especially the first one Todman.


Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2019 at 10:43am
No doubt Carioca, looking at the records of some of the early GS winners is fascinating.

Todman, Fine & Dandy, Sky High, etc all went on to have great racing careers and win proper feature races as older horses.

But looking at the last decade of GS winners (apart from Pierro) it’s not a very inspiring honour roll.


Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2019 at 11:31am
Ya know Lord Hybrow I do go on at times about the "old days" but I've seen the difference in so many ways in regard to training , feeding and the durability of being able to extend the careers of some of the early winners and longevity of their careers makes the memories so easy and that includes the beaten brigade with the likes of Wenona Girl and the odds on favourite that fell and broke his ribs Imagile, the photo of the AJC Derby the following year was worth a thousand words, the only reason Tulloch didn't start in the Slipper was because the sire had to be nominated and alas Khorosan (spelling) was not and there was no second way to get in like today. cheers mate.


Posted By: ChrisB
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2019 at 12:28pm
Yes i must admit I've never got that excited about the Golden Slipper either.

But some excellent replies here to justify, great discussion



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