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Topic: 2019 Golden Slipper
Posted By: VOYAGER
Subject: 2019 Golden Slipper
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2019 at 1:03am
I thought we would place all general 2yo comments in this thread.

Okay so at this moment at least in my view, the fillies have the edge but that could change when a few of the better colts comeback.

Colts.

Dubios - Maclaren - Tassort - Spring Loaded - Hightail - I Am Immortal.

Fillies.

Catch Me - Exhilarates - Amercement - Jedastar - Brooklyn Hustle.


As I said I have the fillies about half a length in front!

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Posted By: scamanda
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2019 at 1:29pm
Tassort still looks to be the testing material in the colts to me, so far. He'll need to have his skates on though with some top class wins lately in both NSW and Victoria.

Catch Me still has to get through her Melbourne prep. She looks like the best of the fillies so far but she hasn't taken on Brooklyn Hustle yet.

Exciting times ahead for anyone who follows the babies.


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Posted By: Xavier
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2019 at 11:06am
Bump

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Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2019 at 11:13am
Originally posted by Xavier Xavier wrote:

Bump

   Describes the situation well.


Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2019 at 12:31pm
Blimmy this race is still wider than the Sydney Heads.  Could back half the field and miss the winner.  Still hoping for a minor miracle for Time to Reign but there are so many hopefuls very hard to pick this year.  Did like the trial of the Blue Diamond winner and she's Juliet like Time to Reign (but friendship comes into that one).  Like the grey filly, like Yes Yes Yes.  Even don't mind the Black Opal winner.  In fact can't overlook any of the Godolphin horses.  No doubt my mother will sit there and back her grey and another and get the winner.  While I ditter away having trouble making up my mind.


Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2019 at 8:43pm
For me Furious, unless something shows dazzling wet track ability tomorrow this is my top six (in order).

Microphone
Dubious
Lyre
Tenley
Time To Reign
Yes Yes Yes

The next for me is the Black Opal winner Pin Sec and Loving Gaby, if she can get in the field.

The only one I would entertain from tomorrow is Cosmic Force, but that is only if he showed good wet track ability.

I think the NZ 2yo is good, but she is more Sires horse!


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Posted By: Heavy10
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2019 at 10:36pm
Microphone has grown on me, looks pretty bombproof


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2019 at 11:01pm
Originally posted by Heavy10 Heavy10 wrote:

Microphone has grown on me, looks pretty bombproof

    All we need now is the weather to be favourable ..

     Quite a few smart ones to oppose Microphone but his figures read well.


Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2019 at 7:20pm
Is Loving Gaby guaranteed a start?

Lyre and Loving Gaby for me.
I think they are guns.
if Brooklyn Hustle was in this, I would be on her.
Lyre went past Brooklyn Hustle, from similar position in Blue Diamond.
Loving Gaby just got blocked and was jumping all over them.

I think Lyre and Loving Gaby are very very special.
The Melbourne lot are good this year. I have them well in front.

Lyre is way overs at $12.



Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2019 at 7:25pm
Cosmic Force put his hand up there today, but it is a very very difficult backing up in the Slipper.

We saw Sunlight and Written By last year try that and they ran well, but the race was just run to tough for them to finish off.



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Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2019 at 7:26pm
I see that Aquia are going to pay up for Free Of Doubt.

He could be an interesting runner!

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Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2019 at 7:27pm
Sorry, Aquis Farm that should be!

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Posted By: roland
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2019 at 11:05pm
I'm biased towards YYY as I have a share in him but the Microphone form reads pretty well into this. I think he's the main danger. Brooklyn Hustle beat us on debut at the Valley and had she not overraced I think she may of won the blue diamond. She was very impressive!

It's wide open. I think any of them could take it home really.


Posted By: Schillaci
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 7:59am
Does anyone know if Loving Gaby is in the field?

Cheers.


Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 8:34am
Safely in, I presume that’s why she didnt run yesterday.


Posted By: Schillaci
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 9:54am
Cheers Judge


Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 10:45am
At this stage 1st emergency.


Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 10:47am
Thanks for info.
Good luck with YYY Roland

The Melbourne bunch seem super this year.
Loving Gaby and Lyre for me. both are overs and great each way value.


Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 10:53am
Was the Blue Diamond this year considered to have fast early and mid race sectionals? or slow/moderate sectionals?
Cant find the sectionals.


Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 11:02am
Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

At this stage 1st emergency.


Pretty sure there’s a couple in that order of entry not going.


Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 11:19am
I keep looking at Loving Gaby in the diamond.
Was a lap full of horse, got within a length, jogging. had no chance to extend, yet near the bunch, just jogging.
real deal.

lyre has a beautiful action.
Loving Gaby reminded me a bit of Flying Spur, front legs going up, wanting to get on with it.
then flying spur went on to win the golden slipper.

brooklyn hustle, lyre, loving gaby, might be pretty special.

hoping loving gaby gets a run.
ripper roving banker first 4, lyre, loving gaby/field.


Posted By: Stainvita
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 11:35am
Lyre by Lohnro should cover the wet track hurdle.

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Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 11:35am
Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

At this stage 1st emergency.


Pretty sure there’s a couple in that order of entry not going.

Confirmation will throw more light on the field make up Judge , at the moment there's talk of a late nom. too it will jump over LG in prizemony if option taken fwiw.


Posted By: Xavier
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 11:49am
Does anyone know if Fields for the Slipper are out early on Tuesday or normal on Wednesday?

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Posted By: roland
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 12:30pm
Order of entry from last Monday, I believe Tassort, Sun City, I am Immortal, Vinicunca, Accession and Jedastar are all in the paddock. The barrier draw is Tuesday morning.


EXEMPT

YES YES YES

C

CHRIS WALLER

56.5

$298,700

EXEMPT

MICROPHONE

C

JAMES CUMMINGS

56.5

$294,100

EXEMPT

TENLEY

F

JAMES CUMMINGS

54.5

$269,200

EXEMPT

TIME TO REIGN

C

GARY PORTELLI

56.5

$268,700

EXEMPT

ANAHEED

F

PETER & PAUL SNOWDEN

54.5

$173,850

6

LYRE

F

ANTHONY FREEDMAN

54.5

$1,059,000

7

LANKAN STAR

F

DAVID & B HAYES & T DABERNIG

54.5

$339,000

8

I AM IMMORTAL

C

ANTHONY FREEDMAN

56.5

$247,500

9

PIN SEC

F

JAMES CUMMINGS

54.5

$202,100

10

CATCH ME

F

PETER & PAUL SNOWDEN

54.5

$180,750

11

SUN CITY

C

TONY MCEVOY

56.5

$160,100

12

VINICUNCA

F

GAI WATERHOUSE & ADRIAN BOTT

54.5

$157,500

13

DUBIOUS

C

CIARON  MAHER & DAVID EUSTACE

56.5

$154,150

14

VINCERE VOLARE

F

TONY GOLLAN

54.5

$142,650

15

TASSORT

C

JAMES CUMMINGS

56.5

$130,800

16

EXHILARATES

F

JAMES CUMMINGS

54.5

$128,400

17

LOVING GABY

F

CIARON  MAHER & DAVID EUSTACE

54.5

$126,750

18

MCLAREN

C

PETER & PAUL SNOWDEN

56.5

$122,575

19

BELLA ROSA

F

CIARON  MAHER & DAVID EUSTACE

54.5

$120,300

20

BIVOUAC

C

JAMES CUMMINGS

56.5

$118,350




Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 2:40pm
That can't be right Tassort for one is out spelling.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 2:54pm
Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

That can't be right Tassort for one is out spelling.

Flying Spur was spelling when he won his Slipper.




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Posted By: roland
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 3:18pm
Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

That can't be right Tassort for one is out spelling.


Read the top line Tongue


Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 3:24pm
Looks like you might be right, Carioca. Athiri leapfrogged LG with her second on the weekend. Gee, they’ll be setting Athiri a task running her again. But I suppose if you’ve got seven horses qualified and you can keep one of your dangers out of the race. They wouldn’t think that wasy, would they.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 3:36pm
By my calculations there have been 205 2yo races run so far, 41 of them have been black type races.

 


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Posted By: roland
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 3:42pm
Updated list I found just now...

GOLDEN SLIPPER ORDER OF ENTRY

1 Yes Yes Yes C Waller B Shinn

2 Microphone J Cummings H Bowman

3 Tenley J Cummings J McDonald

4 Time To Reign G Portelli J Collett

5 Anaheed P and P Snowden T Clark

6 Cosmic Force P and P Snowden M Zahra

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7 Kiamichi J Cummings ….

8 Lyre A Freedman L Currie

9 Lankan Star D and B Hayes, T Dabernig ….

#10 Free Of Debt C Bieg D Dunn

11 Pin Sec J Cummings T Berry

12 Catch Me P and P Snowden C Brown

#13 Athiri J Cummings …

14 Dubious C Maher and D Eustace M Walker

15 Vincere Volare T Gollan S Clipperton

16 Exhilarates J Cummings K McEvoy

17 Loving Gaby C Maher and D Eustace D Lane

18 McLaren P and P Snowden ….

19 Bivouac J Cummings ….

20 Amercement J Cummings …

21 Rome P and P Snowden ….



Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 4:06pm
Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Looks like you might be right, Carioca. Athiri leapfrogged LG with her second on the weekend. Gee, they’ll be setting Athiri a task running her again. But I suppose if you’ve got seven horses qualified and you can keep one of your dangers out of the race. They wouldn’t think that wasy, would they.

A very prestigious race Judge, I guess they could.


Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 4:10pm
found it very appropriate that it was a heavy track for the Pago Pago.  Appart from She will Reign his was the wettest Slipper in history.  Still wide as the Sydney Heads.   I seem to remember Skating liked it wet and shes third dam of Tenley and Lonhro is there also.  Cosmic Force has the sireline of Encosta de Lago and they love the mud.  Time to Reign has Snitzel and from the family of She will Reign - love the mud.  Yes Yes Yes is also the sireline of Encosta but one from the female line is In Her Time and she hates it wet!   Even the wet doesn't clear things up.  As I said wide as the heads.


Posted By: Schillaci
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 10:15pm
Looks a bit tricky for Loving Gaby now. Can’t see anyone scratching from here. Bugg


Posted By: Schillaci
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 10:15pm
Bugger


Posted By: Sister Dot
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 10:20pm
Cosmic Force for me
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Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 10:43pm
For me too Sister Dot, never thought I'd tip a son of Deep Field to win the Slipper but at this stage of the week with another 75mil. today I thought his win on the heavy with more to come was devastating , looks the goods , but I may change lol.


Posted By: Baguette
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2019 at 11:09pm
Well that makes three of us! I like this colt. He’s improving every time he runs. His trainers know how to get them ready too.


Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 5:22am
Anyone got the clips of Cosmic Force runs so far?


Posted By: SHOVHOG
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 6:39am
How can Pin Sec be $20 ? On breeding is an absolute mud lark and although it had a cushy run it absolutely donkey linked them on the slow in Canberra. Don’t think we’ve got to the bottom of it yet. Should be $8 maximum.

Pin Sec & Probabeel for mine are both the horses to beat in the sires especially probabeel. Castlevecchio the other one.

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Posted By: bph2510
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 10:03am
I 100 percent agree. Pin Sec looks like a sires winner although I can see her storming late in this slipper. I’d love her to win it but if she savages the line for a place going into sires I’ll take that also.
She is a very late foal as well so has so much upside. I think she might be a very special horse in time.

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Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 10:45am
Anyone got footage of Pin Sec in the Black Opal?


Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 10:56am
Originally posted by Redemption Redemption wrote:

Anyone got footage of Pin Sec in the Black Opal?

Go to NSW racing site, replays.


Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 10:56am
See no reason Lyre can’t win again.


Posted By: bph2510
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 11:08am
Yeah any of 10 could win and I wouldn’t be surprised.
I’d never take the price of the short ones
There’s not much between this lot. At least leading up to the race. Something may explode on the day but it’s a lottery

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Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 12:09pm
Originally posted by Schillaci Schillaci wrote:

Looks a bit tricky for Loving Gaby now. Can’t see anyone scratching from here. Bugg


Athiri not going. Looks like you’re in. Good luck.


Posted By: Schillaci
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 12:30pm
Cheers Judge 👍. Still a bit of a raffle but have to be in it to win it.


Posted By: Good Old Ted
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 12:35pm
Very keen on Pin Sec - Lohnro out of a Commands mare, 2 from 2 and spanked them last start on the wet. Her full brother Restrained won easily on Friday at Kembla on a heavy 8 (also undefeated). Happy to take the $20. 


Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 2:12pm
Loving Gaby on wet? Thoughts?

I like Pin Sec, Lyre, Loving Gaby, Cosmic Force.

Might even go the box 4 and a bunch of exotics that feature those.
Pin Sec and Lyre are the value. Both are way overs.
I dont view this as an open race this year. I think those 4 are guns.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 2:18pm
Should swim.

LOVING GABY (AUS)Bay filly 2016 
I Am Invincible
Bay 2004
Invincible Spirit
Bay 1997
Green Desert
Bay 1983
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Foreign Courier
Bay 1979
Sir Ivor
Courtly Dee
1965
1968
8-g
A4
Rafha
Bay 1987
Kris
Chestnut 1976
Sharpen Up
Doubly Sure
1969
1971
5-i
2-o
Eljazzi
Bay 1981
Artaius
Border Bounty
1974
1965
14-c
7-a
Cannarelle
Bay 1998
Canny Lad
Brown 1987
Bletchingly
Brown 1970
Biscay
Coogee
1965
1959
2-o
7-a
Jesmond Lass
Chestnut 1975
Lunchtime
Beautiful Dreamer
1970
1967
7-f
14>
Countess Pedrille
Bay 1994
Zoffany
Bay 1980
Our Native
Grey Dawn Girl
1970
1970
20-a
1-n
Sister Pedrille
Chestnut 1980
Cardinal
Royal Law
1969
1975
2-s
1-n
Maastricht
Grey 2011
Mastercraftsman
Grey 2006
Danehill Dancer
Bay 1993
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Razyana
1977
1981
7-a
2-d
Mira Adonde
Bay or brown 1986
Sharpen Up
Lettre d'Amour
1969
1979
5-i
22-b
Starlight Dreams
Grey 1995
Black Tie Affair
Grey 1986
Miswaki
Hat Tab Girl
1978
1979
16-g
9-f
Reves Celestes
Bay 1979
Lyphard
Tobira Celeste
1969
1971
17-b
21-a
Cat Shmea
Bay 1999
Felix the Cat
Bay or brown 1994
Storm Cat
Bay or brown 1983
Storm Bird
Terlingua
1978
1976
4-j
8-c
Stick to Beauty
Bay or brown 1973
Illustrious
Hail to Beauty
1965
1969
9-f
1-g
Ingresea
Grey 1986
Beaufort Sea
Chestnut 1970
Nashua
Homeward Bound
1952
1961
3-m
3-l
Ingres
Grey 1980
Super Gray
Meadow Bell
1972
1971
2-s
18>
 Ancestor duplications:Danzig4m x 5m Sharpen Up5m x 5f


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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 2:19pm
PIN SEC (AUS)Bay filly 2016 
Lonhro
Brown 1998
Octagonal
Brown 1992
Zabeel
Bay 1986
Sir Tristram
Bay 1971
Sir Ivor
Isolt
1965
1961
8-g
6-e
Lady Giselle
Bay 1982
Nureyev
Valderna
1977
1972
5-h
16-c
Eight Carat
Brown 1975
Pieces of Eight
Brown 1963
Relic
Baby Doll
1945
1956
8-f
3-o
Klairessa
Bay or brown 1969
Klairon
Courtessa
1952
1955
1-w
9-c
Shadea
Bay 1988
Straight Strike
Bay or brown 1977
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Gold Digger
1961
1962
8-f
13-c
Bend Not
Bay 1972
Never Bend
Jennie Sue
1960
1961
19-b
11>
Concia
Bay 1978
First Consul
Bay 1970
Forli
Bold Consort
1963
1960
3-b
5-f
My Tricia
Brown 1974
Hermes
Gay Poss
1963
1966
11-d
8>
Moderate
Bay 2010
Commands
Bay 1996
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Cotehele House
Brown or black 1980
My Swanee
Grey 1963
Petition
Grey Rhythm
1944
1954
16-g
8-j
Eight Carat
Brown 1975
Pieces of Eight
Klairessa
1963
1969
3-o
9-c
Gradual
Chestnut 1998
Strategic
Chestnut 1992
Zeditave
Chestnut 1985
The Judge
Summoned
1975
1978
2-b
1-n
Sudden Impulse
Chestnut 1980
Luskin Star
Sweet Embrace
1974
1964
2-e
2-g
Bambola
Bay 1987
Balmerino
Bay 1972
Trictrac
Dulcie
1962
1953
2-h
4-d
Rass Dancer
Chestnut 1981
Rassendyll
Salona
1974
1976
1-k
13-e
 Ancestor duplications:Eight Carat3m x 4f


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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 2:20pm
Olympic swimmers pedigree.

LYRE (AUS)Brown filly 2016 
Lonhro
Brown 1998
Octagonal
Brown 1992
Zabeel
Bay 1986
Sir Tristram
Bay 1971
Sir Ivor
Isolt
1965
1961
8-g
6-e
Lady Giselle
Bay 1982
Nureyev
Valderna
1977
1972
5-h
16-c
Eight Carat
Brown 1975
Pieces of Eight
Brown 1963
Relic
Baby Doll
1945
1956
8-f
3-o
Klairessa
Bay or brown 1969
Klairon
Courtessa
1952
1955
1-w
9-c
Shadea
Bay 1988
Straight Strike
Bay or brown 1977
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Gold Digger
1961
1962
8-f
13-c
Bend Not
Bay 1972
Never Bend
Jennie Sue
1960
1961
19-b
11>
Concia
Bay 1978
First Consul
Bay 1970
Forli
Bold Consort
1963
1960
3-b
5-f
My Tricia
Brown 1974
Hermes
Gay Poss
1963
1966
11-d
8>
Erato
Chestnut 2010
Street Cry
Bay or brown 1998
Machiavellian
Bay or brown 1987
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Gold Digger
1961
1962
8-f
13-c
Coup de Folie
Bay 1982
Halo
Raise the Standard
1969
1978
2-d
2-d
Helen Street
Bay 1982
Troy
Bay 1976
Petingo
La Milo
1965
1963
22>
1-b
Waterway
Chestnut 1976
Riverman
Boulevard
1969
1968
10-a
1-l
Mnemosyne
Bay 2002
Encosta de Lago
Bay 1993
Fairy King
Bay 1982
Northern Dancer
Fairy Bridge
1961
1975
2-d
5-h
Shoal Creek
Chestnut 1988
Star Way
Rolls
1977
1984
6-e
4-g
My Juliet
Bay 1995
Canny Lad
Brown 1987
Bletchingly
Jesmond Lass
1970
1975
7-a
14>
Perfect Draw
Chestnut 1988
Whiskey Road
Proud Draw
1972
1980
4-d
13-a
 Ancestor duplications:Mr Prospector4m x 4m


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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 2:22pm
Interestingly Mnemosyne had 6 goes on Soft or worse for just one win. She ran to a high level on them though.




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Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 2:37pm
thanks so much djebel, nice work.


Posted By: bph2510
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 4:26pm
Free of Debt is going to run a good race. 3rd in diamond. Sat on hot speed. Only horse not to buckle and looked the winner st one stage.
Trainer said is better with a sit so I wouldn’t be surprised if it did that and maybe ran into a place

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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 5:24pm
Wonder how he knows he'll be better taking a sit ?

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Posted By: SHOVHOG
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 6:50pm
I wonder if Jason collett was already committed to Time to Reign before he won on Pin Sec in the opal??

I don’t want to sound like a broken record but bookmakers and punters have got this market wrong. Pin Sec has got that killer instinct that only very special horses have. It’s first win against an average lot was gutsy to say the least and then it put pay to Rome like it was nailed to the fence. It won’t be double figures on Saturday I absolutely guarantee it.

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Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 7:19pm
I agree Shovhog

Its one thing to have outsiders win, eg Phelan Ready, and many more, but to have the market set up like this, its all back to front.

I reckon Pin Sec should be $5.
Lyre should be $5
Cosmic Force $5

There are numerous ones at top of market, that should be over $10.




Posted By: bph2510
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 8:03pm
I heard him say at home he enjoys galloping behind something then finishes off better. Still have to get that run but he will be in the finish either way I reckon. Under rated horse

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Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 11:36pm
Looks like a wet track , so anything happens .

    The girls have continued to return equal figures in the lead ups , so the 2K less to carry in the grand final , I lean toward them again.
   Microphone is about the only boy on my radar.   Will he handle wet ?.
Time to Reign (Cat) & Yes Yes Yes, who was outshone by Tenley ( timewise )
can run against me.
Another interesting Race ,   spoiled by weather.


Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 8:48am
Never spoiled.  The greater majority will go on the wet also.  Even Tenley above has enough to suggest no trouble in the wet.  Just hope the day is fine so Mum can come.  Won't be the same without her.


Posted By: Schillaci
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 9:13am
Is the barrier draw today or tomorrow?


Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 9:22am
Today


Posted By: Mayor
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 9:51am
Rosehill - Saturday, March 23

$3.5 million Longines Golden Slipper (1200m)

1 - YES YES YES (Chris Waller), Blake Shinn (-) 56.5kg 
2 - MICROPHONE (James Cummings), Hugh Bowman (-) 56.5kg
3 - TIME TO REIGN (Gary Portelli), Jason Collett (-) 56.5kg
4 - FREE OF DEBT (Chris Bieg), Dwayne Dunn (-) 56.5kg
5 - COSMIC FORCE (Peter & Paul Snowden), Mark Zahra (-) 56.5kg
6 - DUBIOUS (Ciaron Maher & David Eustace), Michael Walker (-) 56.5kg
7 - LYRE (Anthony Freedman), Luke Currie (-) 54.5kg
8 - LANKAN STAR (David, Ben Hayes & Tom Dabernig), Damien Oliver (-) 54.5kg
9 - TENLEY (James Cummings), James McDonald (-) 54.5kg
10 - PIN SEC (James Cummings), Tommy Berry (-) 54.5kg
11 - ANAHEED (Peter & Paul Snowden), Tim Clark (-) 54.5kg
12 - KIAMICHI (James Cummings), Damian Lane (-) 54.5kg
13 - CATCH ME (Peter & Paul Snowden), Corey Brown (-) 54.5kg
14 - VINCERE VOLARE (Tony Gollan), Sam Clipperton (-) 54.5kg
15 - EXHILARATES (James Cummings), Kerrin McEvoy (-) 54.5kg
16 -
 LOVING GABY (Ciaron Maher & David Eustace), Oisin Murphy (-) 54.5kg



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Mayor


Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 10:01am
Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

Never spoiled.  The greater majority will go on the wet also.  Even Tenley above has enough to suggest no trouble in the wet.  Just hope the day is fine so Mum can come.  Won't be the same without her.

I think all will be well furious, my tip fwiw is a soft 6 with maybe even an upgrade to a 5 , here's hoping for you both.


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 10:05am
The 2yos are all so even these days I can't get interested. Who was the last dominant superstar 2yo?


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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.

Simon Cameron



Posted By: Speediskey
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 10:11am
Pierro?

Vancouver was undefeated as a 2yo
She Will Reign was more dominant most of the time but ran second once.

This is the most open crop I’ve seen in a long time.


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 10:21am
Originally posted by Speediskey Speediskey wrote:

Pierro?

Vancouver was undefeated as a 2yo
She Will Reign was more dominant most of the time but ran second once.

This is the most open crop I’ve seen in a long time.


Yeah but even the dominant ones like Pierro was dominant in a tradesmanlike competent way not a blitz them thrilling way.


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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.

Simon Cameron



Posted By: Schillaci
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 10:24am
Interesting that Damien Lane has hopped off Loving Gaby for Kiamichi?


Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 10:43am
May have doubted she would get in the field, I have a healthy respect for young Oisin Murphy and the fillies trainer but both first time lookers at Rosehill is a big risk imo.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 11:30am


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reductio ad absurdum


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 11:32am
MICROPHONE (AUS)Bay colt 2016 
Exceed and Excel
Bay 2000
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Pas de Nom
Bay or brown 1968
Admiral's Voyage
Petitioner
1959
1952
4-n
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Bay 1968
Ribot
Flower Bowl
1952
1952
4-l
4-d
Spring Adieu
Bay 1974
Buckpasser
Natalma
1963
1957
1-s
2-d
Patrona
Chestnut 1994
Lomond
Bay 1980
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
My Charmer
Bay 1969
Poker
Fair Charmer
1963
1959
1-s
13-c
Gladiolus
Chestnut 1974
Watch Your Step
Chestnut 1956
Citation
Stepwisely
1945
1941
3-l
6-a
Back Britches
Chestnut 1964
Carry Back
Foxbritches
1958
1958
24>
23-b
Sung
Bay 2004
Anabaa
Bay 1992
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Pas de Nom
Bay or brown 1968
Admiral's Voyage
Petitioner
1959
1952
4-n
7-a
Balbonella
Brown 1984
Gay Mecene
Bay or brown 1975
Vaguely Noble
Gay Missile
1965
1967
1-d
3-l
Bamieres
Brown 1978
Riverman
Bergamasque
1969
1969
10-a
1-n
Vocalist
Bay 1994
Bluebird
Bay 1984
Storm Bird
Bay 1978
Northern Dancer
South Ocean
1961
1967
2-d
4-j
Ivory Dawn
Bay 1978
Sir Ivor
Dusky Evening
1965
1967
8-g
9-b
Loyal Lyric
Chestnut 1986
Sovereign Red
Chestnut 1977
Sir Tristram
Taiona
1971
1972
6-e
7-d
Miss Entertainer
Chestnut 1975
Vain
Viveza
1966
1967
A10
18>
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer4m,4m x 4m,5m Natalma5m,5f,5m x 5m Danzig3m x 3m


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reductio ad absurdum


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 11:32am
YES YES YES (AUS)Bay colt 2016 
Rubick
Bay 2011
Encosta de Lago
Bay 1993
Fairy King
Bay 1982
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Shoal Creek
Chestnut 1988
Star Way
Chestnut 1977
Star Appeal
New Way
1970
1970
5-d
6-e
Rolls
Chestnut 1984
Mr Prospector
Grand Luxe
1970
1974
13-c
4-g
Sliding Cube
Chestnut 2004
Rock of Gibraltar
Bay 1999
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Razyana
1977
1981
7-a
2-d
Offshore Boom
Chestnut 1985
Be My Guest
Push a Button
1974
1980
8-c
10-a
Shantha's Choice
Bay 1992
Canny Lad
Brown 1987
Bletchingly
Jesmond Lass
1970
1975
7-a
14>
Dancing Show
Bay 1983
Nijinsky
Show Lady
1967
1976
8-f
8-f
Sin Sin Sin
Brown 2005
Fantastic Light
Bay 1996
Rahy
Chestnut 1985
Blushing Groom
Chestnut 1974
Red God
Runaway Bride
1954
1962
8-c
22-d
Glorious Song
Bay 1976
Halo
Ballade
1969
1972
2-d
12-c
Jood
Bay 1989
Nijinsky
Bay 1967
Northern Dancer
Flaming Page
1961
1959
2-d
8-f
Kamar
Bay 1976
Key to the Mint
Square Angel
1969
1970
2-n
14-c
Steam Heat
Brown 1986
Salieri
Chestnut 1980
Accipiter
Bay 1971
Damascus
Kingsland
1964
1965
8-h
9-e
Hogan's Sister
Bay 1977
Speak John
Liz Piet
1958
1960
1-l
2-n
Supaburn
Brown 1980
Blazing Saddles
Brown 1974
Todman
Lady Simone
1954
1969
1-u
2-r
Vista Anna
Brown 1965
Caranna
Vistaed
1952
1950
7-d
22-d
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer4m x 5m Nijinsky5f x 4f


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reductio ad absurdum


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 11:34am
TIME TO REIGN (AUS)Bay colt 2016 
Time for War
Bay 2011
Snitzel
Bay 2002
Redoute's Choice
Bay 1996
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Razyana
1977
1981
7-a
2-d
Shantha's Choice
Bay 1992
Canny Lad
Dancing Show
1987
1983
14>
8-f
Snippets' Lass
Bay 1993
Snippets
Bay 1984
Lunchtime
Easy Date
1970
1977
7-f
20-a
Snow Finch
Bay 1984
Storm Bird
A Realgirl
1978
1976
4-j
2-c
Lady Zabelia
Bay 2003
Zabeel
Bay 1986
Sir Tristram
Bay 1971
Sir Ivor
Isolt
1965
1961
8-g
6-e
Lady Giselle
Bay 1982
Nureyev
Valderna
1977
1972
5-h
16-c
Miss Power Bird
Bay 1997
Mukaddamah
Bay 1988
Storm Bird
Tash
1978
1977
4-j
13-c
Miss Priority
Bay 1991
Kaapstad
Benediction
1984
1985
9-c
6-e
Courgette
Bay or brown 2007
Charge Forward
Bay 2001
Red Ransom
Bay 1987
Roberto
Bay 1969
Hail to Reason
Bramalea
1958
1959
4-n
12-c
Arabia
Bay 1977
Damascus
Christmas Wind
1964
1967
8-h
6-b
Sydney's Dream
Bay 1991
Bletchingly
Brown 1970
Biscay
Coogee
1965
1959
2-o
7-a
Dream Appeal
Bay 1982
Valid Appeal
Cam Shaft
1972
1962
2-c
52>
Our Farm Girl
Bay or brown 2000
Marscay
Chestnut 1979
Biscay
Chestnut 1965
Star Kingdom
Magic Symbol
1946
1956
1-g
2-o
Heart of Market
Bay 1967
To Market
Accroche Coeur
1948
1959
10-a
4-m
Sunshine Sally
Bay 1986
Cheraw
Grey 1973
Caro
Cease Fire
1967
1965
3-o
1-e
Lady Genevieve
Brown 1976
Knightly Manner
Lady Explorer
1961
1969
1-n
13-a
 Ancestor duplications:Storm Bird5f,5m x Biscayx 5m,4m


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reductio ad absurdum


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 11:35am
FREE OF DEBT (AUS)Chestnut colt 2016 
Unencumbered
Bay or brown 2011
Testa Rossa
Bay 1996
Perugino
Bay or brown 1991
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Bo Dapper
Bay 1985
Sir Dapper
Bay 1980
Vain
Sikri
1966
1967
A10
C25
Bodega
Bay 1973
Without Fear
Salon
1967
1964
4-c
1-w
Blizzardly
Bay 2002
More Than Ready
Bay or brown 1997
Southern Halo
Bay 1983
Halo
Northern Sea
1969
1974
2-d
16-g
Woodman's Girl
Bay 1990
Woodman
Becky Be Good
1983
1981
1-s
1-s
Concise
Chestnut 1992
Marscay
Chestnut 1979
Biscay
Heart of Market
1965
1967
2-o
4-m
Sober Dancer
Bay 1985
Noalcoholic
Crystal Dancer
1977
1978
16-g
1-s
Stagerush
Chestnut 2003
Giant's Causeway
Chestnut 1997
Storm Cat
Bay or brown 1983
Storm Bird
Bay 1978
Northern Dancer
South Ocean
1961
1967
2-d
4-j
Terlingua
Chestnut 1976
Secretariat
Crimson Saint
1970
1969
2-s
8-c
Mariah's Storm
Bay 1991
Rahy
Chestnut 1985
Blushing Groom
Glorious Song
1974
1976
22-d
12-c
Immense
Bay 1979
Roberto
Imsodear
1969
1967
12-c
11>
Star Quality
Bay 1995
Caerleon
Bay 1980
Nijinsky
Bay 1967
Northern Dancer
Flaming Page
1961
1959
2-d
8-f
Foreseer
Bay or brown 1969
Round Table
Regal Gleam
1954
1964
2-f
1-s
Belize Tropical
Chestnut 1988
Baillamont
Bay 1982
Blushing Groom
Lodeve
1974
1972
22-d
16-c
Idyllic
Black 1982
Foolish Pleasure
Where You Lead
1972
1970
14-b
14-f
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer5m x 5m,5m Blushing Groomx 5m,5m


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reductio ad absurdum


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 11:37am
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 11:40am
COSMIC FORCE (AUS)Bay or brown colt 2016 
Deep Field
Bay 2010
Northern Meteor
Bay 2005
Encosta de Lago
Bay 1993
Fairy King
Bay 1982
Northern Dancer
Fairy Bridge
1961
1975
2-d
5-h
Shoal Creek
Chestnut 1988
Star Way
Rolls
1977
1984
6-e
4-g
Explosive
Bay 1990
Fappiano
Bay 1977
Mr Prospector
Killaloe
1970
1970
13-c
16-a
Scuff
Chestnut 1979
Forli
Moccasin
1963
1963
3-b
5-h
Listen Here
Chestnut 2004
Elusive Quality
Bay 1993
Gone West
Bay 1984
Mr Prospector
Secrettame
1970
1978
13-c
2-f
Touch of Greatness
Bay 1986
Hero's Honor
Ivory Wand
1980
1973
1-s
13-c
Announce
Bay 1994
Military Plume
Bay 1983
Sir Tristram
Ultraviolet
1971
1972
6-e
10-d
Theme Song
Bay 1987
Sackford
Cotehele House
1980
1980
20>
9-c
Little Zeta
Bay 2004
Commands
Bay 1996
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Cotehele House
Brown or black 1980
My Swanee
Grey 1963
Petition
Grey Rhythm
1944
1954
16-g
8-j
Eight Carat
Brown 1975
Pieces of Eight
Klairessa
1963
1969
3-o
9-c
Catherine Zeta
Bay 1998
Quest for Fame
Bay or brown 1987
Rainbow Quest
Bay 1981
Blushing Groom
I Will Follow
1974
1975
22-d
14-f
Aryenne
Bay 1977
Green Dancer
Americaine
1972
1968
16-c
4-i
Great Temptation
Brown 1987
Luskin Star
Chestnut 1974
Kaoru Star
Promising
1965
1968
31>
2-e
Far Better
Brown 1974
Better Boy
Far Vista
1951
1966
2-n
6-c
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer5m x 5m Mr Prospector5m,5m x Cotehele House5f x 3m


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reductio ad absurdum


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 11:41am
......

DUBIOUS (AUS)Bay colt 2016 
Not a Single Doubt
Bay 2001
Redoute's Choice
Bay 1996
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Shantha's Choice
Bay 1992
Canny Lad
Brown 1987
Bletchingly
Jesmond Lass
1970
1975
7-a
14>
Dancing Show
Bay 1983
Nijinsky
Show Lady
1967
1976
8-f
8-f
Singles Bar
Chestnut 1991
Rory's Jester
Chestnut 1982
Crown Jester
Chestnut 1978
Baguette
Anjudy
1967
1969
6-c
13-e
Rory's Rocket
Grey 1973
Roan Rocket
Cantadora
1961
1964
13-c
1-m
Easy Date
Bay 1977
Grand Chaudiere
Bay 1968
Northern Dancer
Lachine
1961
1960
2-d
19-b
Scampering
Bay 1970
Misty Day
Scamper Away
1958
1966
5-f
20-a
Suspicieuse
Bay 2010
Elusive City
Bay 2000
Elusive Quality
Bay 1993
Gone West
Bay 1984
Mr Prospector
Secrettame
1970
1978
13-c
2-f
Touch of Greatness
Bay 1986
Hero's Honor
Ivory Wand
1980
1973
1-s
13-c
Star of Paris
Bay or brown 1995
Dayjur
Bay or brown 1987
Danzig
Gold Beauty
1977
1979
7-a
1-g
Liturgism
Grey 1980
Native Charger
Cult
1962
1974
8-h
16-g
Seditieuse
Chestnut 1999
Night Shift
Bay 1980
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Ciboulette
Bay or brown 1961
Chop Chop
Windy Answer
1940
1955
2-m
4-g
Star Point
Chestnut 1989
Shahrastani
Chestnut 1983
Nijinsky
Shademah
1967
1978
8-f
3-o
Pointed Path
Chestnut 1984
Kris
Silken Way
1976
1973
2-o
1-l
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer5m,5m x 4m Danzig4m x 5m Nijinsky5f x 5m


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reductio ad absurdum


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 11:42am
.

LANKAN STAR (AUS)Chestnut filly 2016 
Nicconi
Bay 2005
Bianconi
Bay or brown 1995
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Pas de Nom
Bay or brown 1968
Admiral's Voyage
Petitioner
1959
1952
4-n
7-a
Fall Aspen
Chestnut 1976
Pretense
Bay or brown 1963
Endeavour
Imitation
1942
1951
8-g
3-i
Change Water
Chestnut 1969
Swaps
Portage
1952
1952
A4
4-m
Nicola Lass
Bay 1995
Scenic
Bay 1986
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Fairy Bridge
1961
1975
2-d
5-h
Idyllic
Black 1982
Foolish Pleasure
Where You Lead
1972
1970
14-b
14-f
Dubai Lass
Chestnut 1988
Bletchingly
Brown 1970
Biscay
Coogee
1965
1959
2-o
7-a
Frivolous Lass
Bay 1978
In the Purple
Frivole
1966
1965
11-d
10-d
Clearwater Bay
Chestnut 2009
Stratum
Bay 2002
Redoute's Choice
Bay 1996
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Razyana
1977
1981
7-a
2-d
Shantha's Choice
Bay 1992
Canny Lad
Dancing Show
1987
1983
14>
8-f
Bourgeois
Chestnut 1991
Luskin Star
Chestnut 1974
Kaoru Star
Promising
1965
1968
31>
2-e
Brave New World
Chestnut 1980
Vain
Undaunted
1966
1972
A10
4-n
Ranchera
Bay 2003
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Katiyfa
Bay 1985
Auction Ring
Bay 1972
Bold Bidder
Hooplah
1962
1965
3-n
3-o
Kaloudiya
Bay 1979
Shantung
Diamond Drop
1956
1963
8-c
3-o
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer4m,5m x 4m Danzig3m x 5m Sadler's Wells4m x 3f


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reductio ad absurdum


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 11:44am
Has Skating turned out to be one of our great Matriarchs ? 

TENLEY (AUS)Grey filly 2016 
Medaglia d'Oro
Bay or brown 1999
El Prado
Grey 1989
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Lady Capulet
Grey 1974
Sir Ivor
Bay 1965
Sir Gaylord
Attica
1959
1953
2-s
8-g
Cap and Bells
Grey 1958
Tom Fool
Ghazni
1949
1942
3-j
1-l
Cappucino Bay
Bay 1989
Bailjumper
Bay 1974
Damascus
Bay 1964
Sword Dancer
Kerala
1956
1958
1-o
8-h
Court Circuit
Bay 1964
Royal Vale
Cycle
1948
1958
9-e
13-c
Dubbed In
Chestnut 1973
Silent Screen
Chestnut 1967
Prince John
Prayer Bell
1953
1954
14-f
9-b
Society Singer
Chestnut 1968
Restless Wind
Social Position
1956
1964
5-g
9-b
Fratianne
Bay 2009
Lonhro
Brown 1998
Octagonal
Brown 1992
Zabeel
Bay 1986
Sir Tristram
Lady Giselle
1971
1982
6-e
16-c
Eight Carat
Brown 1975
Pieces of Eight
Klairessa
1963
1969
3-o
9-c
Shadea
Bay 1988
Straight Strike
Bay or brown 1977
Mr Prospector
Bend Not
1970
1972
13-c
11>
Concia
Bay 1978
First Consul
My Tricia
1970
1974
5-f
8>
Dubai Ice
Grey 1999
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Skating
Grey 1989
At Talaq
Bay 1981
Roberto
My Nord
1969
1973
12-c
1-c
Raffett
Grey 1977
Raffindale
Approvetor
1972
1972
6-f
26>
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer4m x 5m


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reductio ad absurdum


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 11:47am
Born Rich also pops up quite often on the bottom line.

ANAHEED (AUS)Bay filly 2016 
Fastnet Rock
Bay 2001
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Pas de Nom
Bay or brown 1968
Admiral's Voyage
Petitioner
1959
1952
4-n
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Bay 1968
Ribot
Flower Bowl
1952
1952
4-l
4-d
Spring Adieu
Bay 1974
Buckpasser
Natalma
1963
1957
1-s
2-d
Piccadilly Circus
Bay 1995
Royal Academy
Bay 1987
Nijinsky
Bay 1967
Northern Dancer
Flaming Page
1961
1959
2-d
8-f
Crimson Saint
Chestnut 1969
Crimson Satan
Bolero Rose
1959
1958
26>
8-c
Gatana
Bay 1989
Marauding
Bay 1984
Sir Tristram
Biscalowe
1971
1979
6-e
4-i
Twigalae
Bay 1979
Twig Moss
Hondalae
1973
1968
1-k
2-f
Rostova
Bay 2006
Testa Rossa
Bay 1996
Perugino
Bay or brown 1991
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Bo Dapper
Bay 1985
Sir Dapper
Bay 1980
Vain
Sikri
1966
1967
A10
C25
Bodega
Bay 1973
Without Fear
Salon
1967
1964
4-c
1-w
Space Talk
Bay 1998
Anabaa
Bay 1992
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Balbonella
Brown 1984
Gay Mecene
Bamieres
1975
1978
3-l
1-n
Key Satellite
Grey 1989
Chanteclair
Bay or brown 1982
Haulpak
Nolasque
1973
1971
2-b
3-j
Born Rich
Grey 1977
Beau Sovereign
Miss Holborn
1968
1969
1-u
32>
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer4m,5m x 5m,5m Natalma5m,5f x Danzig3m x 4m,4m


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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 11:47am
KIAMICHI (AUS)Bay filly 2016 
Sidestep
Bay 2010
Exceed and Excel
Bay 2000
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Patrona
Chestnut 1994
Lomond
Bay 1980
Northern Dancer
My Charmer
1961
1969
2-d
13-c
Gladiolus
Chestnut 1974
Watch Your Step
Back Britches
1956
1964
6-a
23-b
Dextrous
Bay 1999
Quest for Fame
Bay or brown 1987
Rainbow Quest
Bay 1981
Blushing Groom
I Will Follow
1974
1975
22-d
14-f
Aryenne
Bay 1977
Green Dancer
Americaine
1972
1968
16-c
4-i
Many Hands
Bay 1988
Handy Proverb
Bay 1982
Twig Moss
Summer Crest
1973
1967
1-k
2-j
Deliberation
Brown 1982
Shifway
Ammo Girl
1966
1974
4-c
3-l
Ouachita
Bay 2005
Canny Lad
Brown 1987
Bletchingly
Brown 1970
Biscay
Chestnut 1965
Star Kingdom
Magic Symbol
1946
1956
1-g
2-o
Coogee
Bay 1959
Relic
Last Judgement
1945
1948
8-f
7-a
Jesmond Lass
Chestnut 1975
Lunchtime
Chestnut 1970
Silly Season
Great Occasion
1962
1965
1-g
7-f
Beautiful Dreamer
Grey 1967
Coeur Volant
Adina Rose
1957
1960
9-c
14>
Peach
Bay 1991
Vain
Chestnut 1966
Wilkes
Chestnut 1952
Court Martial
Sans Tares
1942
1939
1-p
13-c
Elated
Bay 1957
Orgoglio
Rarcamba
1949
1946
23-a
A10
Market Maid
Bay 1985
Marscay
Chestnut 1979
Biscay
Heart of Market
1965
1967
2-o
4-m
Marjoram
Brown or black 1968
Major General
Dark Queen
1956
1964
1-s
5-d
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer5m,5m x Biscayx 4m,5m


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reductio ad absurdum


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 11:49am
CATCH ME (AUS)Brown or black filly 2016 
I Am Invincible
Bay 2004
Invincible Spirit
Bay 1997
Green Desert
Bay 1983
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Foreign Courier
Bay 1979
Sir Ivor
Courtly Dee
1965
1968
8-g
A4
Rafha
Bay 1987
Kris
Chestnut 1976
Sharpen Up
Doubly Sure
1969
1971
5-i
2-o
Eljazzi
Bay 1981
Artaius
Border Bounty
1974
1965
14-c
7-a
Cannarelle
Bay 1998
Canny Lad
Brown 1987
Bletchingly
Brown 1970
Biscay
Coogee
1965
1959
2-o
7-a
Jesmond Lass
Chestnut 1975
Lunchtime
Beautiful Dreamer
1970
1967
7-f
14>
Countess Pedrille
Bay 1994
Zoffany
Bay 1980
Our Native
Grey Dawn Girl
1970
1970
20-a
1-n
Sister Pedrille
Chestnut 1980
Cardinal
Royal Law
1969
1975
2-s
1-n
Captivating Claire
Bay 2010
O'Reilly
Brown 1993
Last Tycoon
Bay or brown 1983
Try My Best
Bay 1975
Northern Dancer
Sex Appeal
1961
1970
2-d
8-f
Mill Princess
Bay 1977
Mill Reef
Irish Lass
1968
1962
22-d
8-c
Courtza
Bay 1986
Pompeii Court
Bay 1977
Tell
Port Damascus
1966
1971
2-f
1-p
Hunza
Brown 1970
Pakistan
Chatty Lady
1958
1961
6-d
13-b
Markisa
Bay 2002
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Marquise
Black 1991
Gold and Ivory
Bay 1981
Key to the Mint
Ivory Wand
1969
1973
2-n
13-c
Eight Carat
Brown 1975
Pieces of Eight
Klairessa
1963
1969
3-o
9-c
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer5m x 5m,5m Danzig4m x 4m


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reductio ad absurdum


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 11:50am
VINCERE VOLARE (AUS)Bay or brown filly 2016 
I Am Invincible
Bay 2004
Invincible Spirit
Bay 1997
Green Desert
Bay 1983
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Foreign Courier
Bay 1979
Sir Ivor
Courtly Dee
1965
1968
8-g
A4
Rafha
Bay 1987
Kris
Chestnut 1976
Sharpen Up
Doubly Sure
1969
1971
5-i
2-o
Eljazzi
Bay 1981
Artaius
Border Bounty
1974
1965
14-c
7-a
Cannarelle
Bay 1998
Canny Lad
Brown 1987
Bletchingly
Brown 1970
Biscay
Coogee
1965
1959
2-o
7-a
Jesmond Lass
Chestnut 1975
Lunchtime
Beautiful Dreamer
1970
1967
7-f
14>
Countess Pedrille
Bay 1994
Zoffany
Bay 1980
Our Native
Grey Dawn Girl
1970
1970
20-a
1-n
Sister Pedrille
Chestnut 1980
Cardinal
Royal Law
1969
1975
2-s
1-n
Elimbari
Bay 2007
Fastnet Rock
Bay 2001
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Piccadilly Circus
Bay 1995
Royal Academy
Bay 1987
Nijinsky
Crimson Saint
1967
1969
8-f
8-c
Gatana
Bay 1989
Marauding
Twigalae
1984
1979
4-i
2-f
Shalt Not
Bay 1996
St Covet
Bay 1991
Covetous
Bay or brown 1979
Luskin Star
Admire
1974
1969
2-e
2-b
Top Up
Bay 1985
Sound Reason
Lumiere
1974
1975
21-a
5-d
Outremer
Bay 1984
Cure the Blues
Bay 1978
Stop the Music
Quick Cure
1970
1971
11-g
2-s
Cut Velvet
Grey 1976
Northern Dancer
Timely Tammy
1961
1966
2-d
9-b
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer5m x 5m,5f Danzig4m x 4m


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reductio ad absurdum


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 11:51am
.....

EXHILARATES (AUS)Bay filly 2016 
Snitzel
Bay 2002
Redoute's Choice
Bay 1996
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Shantha's Choice
Bay 1992
Canny Lad
Brown 1987
Bletchingly
Jesmond Lass
1970
1975
7-a
14>
Dancing Show
Bay 1983
Nijinsky
Show Lady
1967
1976
8-f
8-f
Snippets' Lass
Bay 1993
Snippets
Bay 1984
Lunchtime
Chestnut 1970
Silly Season
Great Occasion
1962
1965
1-g
7-f
Easy Date
Bay 1977
Grand Chaudiere
Scampering
1968
1970
19-b
20-a
Snow Finch
Bay 1984
Storm Bird
Bay 1978
Northern Dancer
South Ocean
1961
1967
2-d
4-j
A Realgirl
Bay 1976
In Reality
Secret Verdict
1964
1966
21-a
2-c
Samaready
Brown or black 2009
More Than Ready
Bay or brown 1997
Southern Halo
Bay 1983
Halo
Bay or brown 1969
Hail to Reason
Cosmah
1958
1953
4-n
2-d
Northern Sea
Bay 1974
Northern Dancer
Sea Saga
1961
1968
2-d
16-g
Woodman's Girl
Bay 1990
Woodman
Chestnut 1983
Mr Prospector
Playmate
1970
1975
13-c
1-s
Becky Be Good
Bay 1981
Naskra
Good Landing
1967
1965
3-e
1-s
Samar
Bay 1999
Secret Savings
Bay 1991
Seeking the Gold
Bay 1985
Mr Prospector
Con Game
1970
1974
13-c
5-c
Jurisdictional
Chestnut 1986
Damascus
Resolver
1964
1974
8-h
5-f
Nice Choice
Bay 1988
Touching Wood
Bay 1979
Roberto
Mandera
1969
1970
12-c
8-d
Dubai Spring
Bay 1981
Broadway Forli
Fleet Empress
1974
1970
12-g
1-o
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer5m,5m x 5f Mr Prospectorx 5m,5m


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reductio ad absurdum


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 11:55am
BIVOUAC (AUS)Bay colt 2016 
Exceed and Excel
Bay 2000
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Pas de Nom
Bay or brown 1968
Admiral's Voyage
Petitioner
1959
1952
4-n
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Bay 1968
Ribot
Flower Bowl
1952
1952
4-l
4-d
Spring Adieu
Bay 1974
Buckpasser
Natalma
1963
1957
1-s
2-d
Patrona
Chestnut 1994
Lomond
Bay 1980
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
My Charmer
Bay 1969
Poker
Fair Charmer
1963
1959
1-s
13-c
Gladiolus
Chestnut 1974
Watch Your Step
Chestnut 1956
Citation
Stepwisely
1945
1941
3-l
6-a
Back Britches
Chestnut 1964
Carry Back
Foxbritches
1958
1958
24>
23-b
Dazzler
Bay 2009
More Than Ready
Bay or brown 1997
Southern Halo
Bay 1983
Halo
Bay or brown 1969
Hail to Reason
Cosmah
1958
1953
4-n
2-d
Northern Sea
Bay 1974
Northern Dancer
Sea Saga
1961
1968
2-d
16-g
Woodman's Girl
Bay 1990
Woodman
Chestnut 1983
Mr Prospector
Playmate
1970
1975
13-c
1-s
Becky Be Good
Bay 1981
Naskra
Good Landing
1967
1965
3-e
1-s
Camarilla
Bay 2004
Elusive Quality
Bay 1993
Gone West
Bay 1984
Mr Prospector
Secrettame
1970
1978
13-c
2-f
Touch of Greatness
Bay 1986
Hero's Honor
Ivory Wand
1980
1973
1-s
13-c
Camarena
Bay 1995
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Razyana
1977
1981
7-a
2-d
Canny Miss
Chestnut 1991
Marscay
Jesmond Lass
1979
1975
4-m
14>
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer4m,4m x 5f Natalma5m,5f,5m x Danehill2m x 4f 
  Mr Prospectorx 5m,5m


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reductio ad absurdum


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 11:56am
ROME (AUS)Bay or brown colt 2016 
Pierro
Bay 2009
Lonhro
Brown 1998
Octagonal
Brown 1992
Zabeel
Bay 1986
Sir Tristram
Lady Giselle
1971
1982
6-e
16-c
Eight Carat
Brown 1975
Pieces of Eight
Klairessa
1963
1969
3-o
9-c
Shadea
Bay 1988
Straight Strike
Bay or brown 1977
Mr Prospector
Bend Not
1970
1972
13-c
11>
Concia
Bay 1978
First Consul
My Tricia
1970
1974
5-f
8>
Miss Right Note
Grey 2003
Daylami
Grey 1994
Doyoun
Bay 1985
Mill Reef
Dumka
1968
1971
22-d
21-a
Daltawa
Grey 1989
Miswaki
Damana
1978
1981
16-g
9-e
Sky Song
Bay 1997
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Fairy Bridge
1961
1975
2-d
5-h
Criquette
Bay 1990
Shirley Heights
Ghislaine
1975
1981
1-l
1-t
Dance Card
Chestnut 2009
Exceed and Excel
Bay 2000
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Patrona
Chestnut 1994
Lomond
Bay 1980
Northern Dancer
My Charmer
1961
1969
2-d
13-c
Gladiolus
Chestnut 1974
Watch Your Step
Back Britches
1956
1964
6-a
23-b
Volcada
Bay 2004
Stravinsky
Bay 1996
Nureyev
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Special
1961
1969
2-d
5-h
Fire the Groom
Bay or brown 1987
Blushing Groom
Prospector's Fire
1974
1976
22-d
3-d
Rhythm Kingdom
Bay 1987
Vice Regal
Brown 1973
Bismark
Kind Regards
1967
1966
13-c
3-e
Ideal Image
Bay or brown 1971
Vain
Gypsy Moss
1966
1966
A10
1-n
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer5m x 5m,5m,5m


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reductio ad absurdum


Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 11:56am
Great work Djebel. Thank you

Geez Pin Sec at $21?
Cosmic Force rightful fave now.

Lyre still value at $11.

I think 6 horses are way above others.
Could be a very big division at winning post, first to last.

Now they will finish as a bunched pack. lol


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 11:56am
BELLEVUE HILL (AUS)Bay or brown colt 2016 
Pierro
Bay 2009
Lonhro
Brown 1998
Octagonal
Brown 1992
Zabeel
Bay 1986
Sir Tristram
Lady Giselle
1971
1982
6-e
16-c
Eight Carat
Brown 1975
Pieces of Eight
Klairessa
1963
1969
3-o
9-c
Shadea
Bay 1988
Straight Strike
Bay or brown 1977
Mr Prospector
Bend Not
1970
1972
13-c
11>
Concia
Bay 1978
First Consul
My Tricia
1970
1974
5-f
8>
Miss Right Note
Grey 2003
Daylami
Grey 1994
Doyoun
Bay 1985
Mill Reef
Dumka
1968
1971
22-d
21-a
Daltawa
Grey 1989
Miswaki
Damana
1978
1981
16-g
9-e
Sky Song
Bay 1997
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Fairy Bridge
1961
1975
2-d
5-h
Criquette
Bay 1990
Shirley Heights
Ghislaine
1975
1981
1-l
1-t
Bellevue Girl
Chestnut 2009
Exceed and Excel
Bay 2000
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Patrona
Chestnut 1994
Lomond
Bay 1980
Northern Dancer
My Charmer
1961
1969
2-d
13-c
Gladiolus
Chestnut 1974
Watch Your Step
Back Britches
1956
1964
6-a
23-b
On Type
Chestnut 1997
Zeditave
Chestnut 1985
The Judge
Bay 1975
Showdown
Bellition
1961
1962
6-b
2-b
Summoned
Chestnut 1978
Crowned Prince
Sweet Life
1969
1970
4-d
1-n
Ambiguous
Chestnut 1991
Marauding
Bay 1984
Sir Tristram
Biscalowe
1971
1979
6-e
4-i
Even True
Chestnut 1982
True Statement
Tune Up
1974
1975
16-g
2-h
 Ancestor duplications:Sir Tristram5m x 5m Northern Dancer5m x 5m,5m


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reductio ad absurdum


Posted By: roland
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 12:39pm
Can't catch a break, carpark everytime!


Posted By: Tajrossi
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 2:11pm
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Ratings to 90% of market so 10% in your favour. Seek value over these prices

Rosehill Raceguide - 23 March 2019
Rail: Out 3M ENTIRE.    Track: Soft 6/7   

7 
Longines Golden Slipper $3,500,0001200m
HEAVY 9 2 WT:SW Type:OPEN Group 1 API:82.05 Surface:T Looks a fairly thin race with Microphone and Tenley value4:30 pm


TABFF
HORSE BP (DISPLAYBP) (TRAINER)JOCKEY  
WTFRDiv
211x1 
Yes Yes Yes 19 () (Chris Waller)concerns re draw and getting back here in this class and 2nd up. poor value     Blake Shinn  
56.5 51 $12.00 
1211 
Microphone 1 () (James Cummings)Gets a gun run. nice draw that bookies will risk     Hugh Bowman  
56.5 55 $3.10 
1x416 
Time To Reign 9 () (Gary Portelli)     Jason Collett  
56.5 48.5  
113 
Free Of Debt 10 () (Chris Bieg)     Dwayne Dunn  
56.5 48.5  
1x221 
Cosmic Force 2 () (P & P Snowden)Impressive on the heavy so a key chance but no value     Mark Zahra  
56.5 51.5 $9.50 
1x123 
Dubious 16 () (C Maher & D Eustace)     Michael Walker  
56.5 46.5  
5111 
Lyre 13 () (Anthony Freedman)not a great draw but we might get some value later here     Luke Currie  
54.5 50.5 $15.00 
x1420 
Lankan Star 3 () (D & B Hayes & T Dabernig)     Damien Oliver  
54.5 43  
1x11 
Tenley 6 () (James Cummings)On pace, Macca in hot form - value     James Mcdonald  
54.5 54 $3.90 
10 1x1 
Pin Sec 5 () (James Cummings)Maps well and some outside value     Tommy Berry  
54.5 50.5 $15.00 
11 1x514 
Anaheed 7 () (P & P Snowden)     Tim Clark  
54.5 47  
12 12x41 
Kiamichi 17 () (James Cummings)     Damian Lane  
54.5 47  
13 1x100 
Catch Me 12 () (P & P Snowden)     Corey Brown  
54.5 42  
14 1x13 
Vincere Volare 11 () (Tony Gollan)     Sam Clipperton  
54.5 45  
15 22112 
Exhilarates 18 () (James Cummings)     Kerrin Mcevoy  
54.5 41  
16 16 
Loving Gaby 15 () (C Maher & D Eustace)     Oisin Murphy  
54.5 45.5  
E17 2x314 
Bivouac 8 () (James Cummings)     Brad Rawiller  
56.5 46  
E18 4x2x2 
Rome 4 () (P & P Snowden)       
56.5 39.5  
E19 12 
Bellevue Hill 14 () (G Waterhouse & A Bott)       
56.5 46.5 


Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 2:30pm
Really warming to Microphone now. Have seen more than one Slipper where the jockeys, lemming-like, abandon the rail in the wet. Can see him a dream run. Also improving every run.


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 2:41pm
Cummings could well train the First Four.


Posted By: Xavier
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 2:46pm
I took $41 for Yes Yes Yes a while ago.
Dream is still alive

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Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes


Posted By: bph2510
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 2:50pm
Yeah I can see horses sitting behind the leaders getting plenty of space as they fan out.
As long as the track holds up ok and the outside doesn’t become the place to be that easy run then the space will Probabaly are the winner come from inside 6 barriers

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Horse owner, breeder, punter.


Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 4:48pm
Good luck Mr Flindell


Posted By: Kingy
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 7:12pm
MICROPHONE for me and having a saver on BELLEVUE HILL.

Prefer MICROPHONE to win as I think he's just a bit better than these.

Looking at the wet track runners.. yeah the majority of them will be fine, got some Med D'Oro's, Snitzels, E&E, etc. They are all more than capable on a wet track. 

The only other one at value that interests me is FREE OF DEBT. I saw his barrier trial last week and it was a wet track and he just glided through it. Has to be respected IMO and I think Dunn even rode him in the trial too. Well worth a crack at 50-1 imo. 

Hope it's not too wet and my $$$ is on MICROPHONE. Will be great for James Cummings too - he's been given the keys to the empire and looks like he knows how to get these 2 year olds up and about. Good luck to him. 


Posted By: Red Rancher
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2019 at 9:03pm
Provided the rain stops and the track is soft Loving Gaby to swamp everything on the outside and to win easy. I hope so because I have unloaded at 15s. She should have won the BD and no doubt has improved.


Posted By: Nick
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2019 at 10:23am
Microphone!


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2019 at 10:55am
My guesstimate is that the fillies are as per usual superior. to the colts. What do the smarties say?


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