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Topic: Australia Vs Sri Lanka
Posted By: djebel
Subject: Australia Vs Sri Lanka
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 11:06am
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 11:08am
Aus Test squad v Sri Lanka: Tim Paine (c), Josh Hazlewood (vc), Joe Burns, Pat Cummins, Marcus Harris, Travis Head, Usman Khawaja, Marnus Labuschagne, Nathan Lyon, Will Pucovski, Matt Renshaw, Mitchell Starc, Peter Siddle

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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 11:11am
With a view to the Ashes the team should be - 

Marcus Harris
Matt Renshaw
Usman Khawaja
Joe Burns
Marnus Labuschagne
Travis Head
Pat Cummins
Tim Paine
Mitchell Starc
Nathan Lyon
Josh Hazlewood




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Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 11:22am
Thankfully they've booted Shaun Marsh before he got cheap runs vs Sri Lanka. These batsmen are essentially playing for the number 2, 3, 5 and 6 spots in the Ashes with the banished 2 coming back. Also glad Langer didn't follow his heart and bring back Bancroft, given his record he needs to go back to the start and prove himself at first class level again.


Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 11:44am
Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

With a view to the Ashes the team should be - 

Marcus Harris
Matt Renshaw
Usman Khawaja
Joe Burns
Marnus Labuschagne
Travis Head
Pat Cummins
Tim Paine
Mitchell Starc
Nathan Lyon
Josh Hazlewood




You know that has a snow flakes chance in hell of being the teamWink


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 11:47am
For Brisbane ?

I doubt they will include the young bloke. 


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Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 11:55am
Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

With a view to the Ashes the team should be - 

Marcus Harris
Matt Renshaw
Usman Khawaja
Joe Burns
Marnus Labuschagne
Travis Head
Pat Cummins
Tim Paine
Mitchell Starc
Nathan Lyon
Josh Hazlewood




You know that has a snow flakes chance in hell of being the teamWink


Looks the likely 11 unless Pukovski comes into the middle order, Joe Burns actually started his first class career in the middle order and it's hardly unprecedented for players to move around the order, Michael Hussey and Simon Katich as examples.

Very unlikely Cummins bats above Paine but.


Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 11:56am
Won't Smith & Warner be back by then?


Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 12:00pm
If they are I would expect or want to see

1 Marcus Harris
2 Warner
3 Matt Renshaw
4 Smith
5 Usman Khawaja
6 Joe Burns/Marnus Labuschagne/Travis Head/ Pucovski,
7 Pat Cummins
8 Tim Paine
9 Mitchell Starc/ Pattinson
10 Nathan Lyon
11 Josh Hazlewood


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 12:03pm
They are back at the end of March.




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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 12:11pm
If Cricket Australia are fair dinkum about getting the team culture back on track, I dont see how they can just automatically reinstate 2 or 3 of them, just to patch up their poor form. 

Smith and Renshaw threw Warner under the bus only a couple of weeks ago. How many players are happy with what was done in their name by cheats? All of their reputations suffer through association, as it did with departing coaches and directors. Langer calling recent events a soap opera and that he had his man management role cut out for him.

A fair bit more healing to happen before they can come back I think, and they have to do it through domestic cricket. 


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Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 12:15pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

A fair bit more healing to happen before they can come back I think, and they have to do it through domestic cricket. 


I think you're right but it will depend ghreatly on the next 2 test


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 12:16pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

If Cricket Australia are fair dinkum about getting the team culture back on track, I dont see how they can just automatically reinstate 2 or 3 of them, just to patch up their poor form. 

Smith and Renshaw threw Warner under the bus only a couple of weeks ago. How many players are happy with what was done in their name by cheats? All of their reputations suffer through association, as it did with departing coaches and directors. Langer calling recent events a soap opera and that he had his man management role cut out for him.

A fair bit more healing to happen before they can come back I think, and they have to do it through domestic cricket. 


kiss the healing, Our fast bowlers owe their 2017 records to Warner.

Absolutely they just walk back in to the team.


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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 12:18pm
Thumbs UpLOL

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Posted By: horlicks
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 12:59pm
Bancroft PT not Renshaw


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 1:20pm
Thumbs Up

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Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 2:15pm
Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Won't Smith & Warner be back by then?


For the Ashes yes, anyone who thinks they won't play that first test is kidding themselves, the only way that'd happen is if the team had beaten India, result is still king.

For mine likely first Ashes XI is

Burns/Renshaw/Harris
Warner
Khawaja
Smith
Head/Labuschagne/Pavlovski
Head/Labuschagne/Pavlovski
Paine
Cummins
Starc
Lyon
Hazlewood

Unlikely they bump Cummins up above Paine just yet, more likely Matt Wade or Alex Carey come in for Paine but even thats unlikely. There is talk about Harris being a 3, so they could go with Burns or Renshaw up top and Harris at 3 in the unlikely event Khawaja is dropped, very much doubt Khawaja bats below 3.


Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2019 at 6:20am
Very true mate. Usman wont bat below 3 but I think he’d do well at 4 or 5. Let him play his shots rather than grafting


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2019 at 8:27am
Actually thinking about it again it looks like Burn and Renshaw are in a bat off to open with Harris, with the other 3 batting 4,5, 6 in a 2 test bat off for the spots below Smith in the Ashes.

Another, less likely option is they go on another of their wild goose chases like they did for an 05 Ashes Flintoff, this time looking for a Pujara and try turn Renshaw into a 3 with Khawaja at 4, they could possibly try Burns in the middle order but I doubt that.

What do you make of Trevor Hohns comments that Wade needs to bad higher to be considered for a test recall, yet the logic of Labuschagne batting 3 in Sydney was because he bats 3 for Qld, why can't Wade bat 6 for Australia on that logic? Then on Glenn Maxwell he claimed Maxie needs to play more red ball and less white ball cricket to be considered for test cricket, yet Hohns keeps picking him for meaningless white ball series so that he misses shield games, the bloke is either clueless or just a strait out w4nker, not sure which.


Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2019 at 8:50am
Smith won’t bat anywhere other than #5 when he comes back... that’s probably the only reason Shaun Marsh got the flick.

Renshaw was sent packing because JL & Haddin thought he was lazy & arrogant, all because he was stretching in the shade in Dubai... that’s some top level player development right there.

Deadset, the sooner they stop treating the national side like a club and dismantle the national academy, the better off we’ll be.

They’re going to throw this poor kid Pucovski & his anxiety into the ugliest environment we have. He’ll bat at #6 and it’ll be as much of a test for the nation as it is for him.


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2019 at 9:30am
Why would Smith bat at 5?

Agree on Pucovski (apologies to him for getting his name wrong above) seems a tough position to put the kid in only a couple months removed from taking time out from the game due to mental health issues.


Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2019 at 11:24am
I say he'll bat at #5 because it's the cushiest spot in the line up. He's certainly done more damage at #4 (and #3 for that matter), and if they do play Pucovski, it would make sense to bat Mr Fidget higher in the order... but i'm trying to see through the eyes of the current selectors. 


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2019 at 6:43am
Kurtis Patterson into the squad after twin tons vs Sri Lanka in the tour match in Hobart.

Likely top 6 Harris Burns Khawaja Patterson Head Pucovski/Labuschagne


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2019 at 7:52am
Sri Lanka new what they were doing.

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Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2019 at 5:55pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

If Cricket Australia are fair dinkum about getting the team culture back on track, I dont see how they can just automatically reinstate 2 or 3 of them, just to patch up their poor form. 

Smith and Renshaw Bancroft threw Warner under the bus only a couple of weeks ago. How many players are happy with what was done in their name by cheats? All of their reputations suffer through association, as it did with departing coaches and directors. Langer calling recent events a soap opera and that he had his man management role cut out for him.

A fair bit more healing to happen before they can come back I think, and they have to do it through domestic cricket. 

Warner and Smith straight back in, Bancroft if he shows sufficient form. 

The whole team cheated, they are all mercenaries, they don't care who is in the team so long as they are - goes for every player, coach, manager, administrator, high-performance coach, physio, psychologist and hanger-on of any description that was involved with that team ... and most of them are still there.Embarrassed


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Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2019 at 6:46pm
http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18692/preview/1145000/australia-vs-sri-lanka-1st-test-sl-in-aus-2018-19" rel="nofollow - Cricinfo's preview says Labuschagne, Burns and Patterson join Harris, Khawaja and Head in making up the top 6. It's good that they've gone the man in form in Patterson but the way he has been selected shows the scattergun approach they have right now.

Tough on young Pucovski going from being the next big thing to missing out for a bloke who wasn't originally part of the squad, at least Renshaw knew he was likely in a shoot out for a spot with Burns when the match in Hobart started.


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2019 at 7:03pm
What you say is true Afros - it really looks like a scattergun approach - there seems to be a lot of players around who have been given a start, and that is in all forms of the game. I can only assume that they are working on the basis that Smith and Warner come back in, and there are really only 4 batting spots available long term - still makes it hard for the ones trying to cement a spot to build confidence.

I also agree with your earlier observations about Shaun Marsh, blew too many chances for me, and Bancroft who will get his opportunities in the future.

I like Patterson, my son played footy with him when they were kids, great character and a multitalented athlete - hope he can consolidate the opportunity.Thumbs Up 


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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2019 at 7:34pm
Really only 2 spots up for grabs for the first Ashes test, barring injury that XI will be Harris/Burns Warner Khawaja Smith TBD TBD Paine Cummins Starc Lyon Hazlewood.

Warner could possibly miss out of Burns and Harris fire in this series as he has a poor record in England and is on the nose.

Labuschagne, Head and Patterson have the inside running on the other 2 spots obviously, if I was Will Pucovski I'd be looking for a county stint now as if the 3 incumbents only go ok in this series then if he can score heavily in county cricket prior to the Ashes series he may force his way in. Doubt he gets called up for the 2nd test but then you never know, with the way these selectors work Glenn Maxwell could be batting 3 in the second test!


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2019 at 7:37pm
Bancroft would have to score heavily in the shield games post big bash and hope Harris and Burns both fail here if he is to make the Ashes squad, realistically he is behind Warner, Harris, Burns and Renshaw, maybe even Finch and Khawaja in the openers pecking order currently.


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2019 at 8:08pm
I think both Finch and Maxwell are a symptom of what T20 has done to the game - clearly as talented as any batsman in the game, but repeatedly have their technical flaws exposed in the white ball game at the highest level.

What a shame that they have both failed to adapt so far.


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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!


Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2019 at 10:26pm
I bet these bumbling kisswits at CA told Pucovski he's in, then changed their mind for the next NSW option.

Just plant a trigger for the bloke's anxiety at every future selection. Nice job.


Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2019 at 5:59am
Neither have the brains to succeed or if they do it is overridden by ego


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2019 at 12:56pm
Have had $10 on Sri Lanka at $13.


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2019 at 4:25pm
Sri Lanka have been absolutely pumped, they should not even bother with the second test, just write it in pen that Australia won the series 2 nil. Thankfully the selectors didn't play either Marsh so they could potentially fill their pockets with more cheap runs and be around for another 12 months.


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2019 at 12:27am
100% right there Afros!

I think this result also confirms just how strong India is at present, particularly if the next test is similarly one-sided.

Feel like it would have been more enjoyable watching the England v West Indies Test ... WOW!

If the Windies #7 and 8 can make 300 between them, wonder how many the Poms can get in 2 days ...


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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2019 at 5:17am
Sri Lanka were recently thumped 3 zip at home by England who in turn have just been thumped in the first test in the West Indies. Angelo Matthews being injured doesn't help them but they couldn't challenge Australia here when they had Sangakkara, Jayawardane and Murali so not much hope now.

There needs to be more context put into test matches I think, series like the Ashes and India have some meaning but these 2 or 3 test walkover series against the likes of Sri Lanka just have no purpose and if anything will drive fans away.


Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2019 at 5:32am
In 2016 Sri Lanka beat us in a series 3-0


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2019 at 6:38am
Yep, and that series made up 3 quarters of the tests they've won vs Australia, the only other test they won was the series in Sri Lanka in 1999, they won the series 1 nil with 2 rain affected draws. They've never looked like winning a test match in Australia, it was feankly laughable that some of the experts gave them a chance in this series.


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2019 at 8:26pm
The same Sri Lankan side that couldn't beat their own shadows in Australia have just gone and defeated South Africa in South Africa, an utterly amazing victory.


Posted By: TIGER
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 5:21am
Sri Lanka beats South Africa at home

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EAD


Posted By: Brudder_A
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 5:41am
A swab should be taken on this result....

SAf folded in the second innings like Nature Strip on Saturday....



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