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Topic: France at war with Macron
Posted By: Redemption
Subject: France at war with Macron
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2018 at 10:55am
France and Paris are burning.

As said for months on here, its been escalating.
The French want to roll out the guillotine and kill nancy boy banker puppet Macron.

The little dweeb is essentially creating a civil war.

France, along with fishing village England, are in tremendous trouble.
Visegrad 4 nations, east Europe, and even Spain, Russia, have warned Macron so many times.

And Macron wants a European Army? LOL.
The little nancy boy is as loony as they can get and the French want him dead.

https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/riots-over-rising-fuel-costs-plunge-paris-into-chaos-as-police-struggle-to-maintain-order/news-story/383de9d4317f88cdb147f2c13d587f2b" rel="nofollow - https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/riots-over-rising-fuel-costs-plunge-paris-into-chaos-as-police-struggle-to-maintain-order/news-story/383de9d4317f88cdb147f2c13d587f2b





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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2018 at 11:09am
Where should all the French and English refugees go when the war starts?

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Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2018 at 6:34pm
Im not French Whale. They want the nancy boy Macron dead. Not that our news in Australia is covering it.
I think Andrew Bolt did though. But I guess you think he is french too, and a psychopath?
How on earth you make such attacks on this forum to a member, is beyond me.

Ive got nothing to do with the French people (nor would I want to. lol). oui, oui.




Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2018 at 6:35pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Where should all the French and English refugees go when the war starts?

China.


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2018 at 6:48pm

Why are drivers on the warpath?

The price of diesel, the most commonly used fuel in French cars, has risen by around 23% over the past 12 months to an average of €1.51 (£1.32; $1.71) per litre, its highest point since the early 2000s, AFP reports.

World oil prices did rise before falling back again, but the Macron government raised its hydrocarbon tax this year by 7.6 cents per litre on diesel and 3.9 cents on petrol, as part of a campaign for cleaner cars and fuel.

The decision to impose a further increase of 6.5 cents on diesel and 2.9 cents on petrol on 1 January 2019 was seen as the final straw.

The president has blamed world oil prices for three-quarters of the price rise. He also said more tax on fossil fuels was needed to fund renewable energy investments.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46331783" rel="nofollow - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46331783


No wonder the peasants are enraged- outrageous, Macron- BOO.



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Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2018 at 7:22pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Where should all the French and English refugees go when the war starts?

The ones who are not Radical Islamic Terrorists or Climate Alarmists are welcome here!Big smile


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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2018 at 7:27pm
Everyone is a Climate Change Virtue Signaller ... until they have to pay the Globalist Rent Seekers for the FAKE promise of change ...it will be the same here, and the Paris Agreement will crumble ... like it already is, ironically in Paris!Tongue

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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2018 at 7:31pm
Though fortunately for him, Macron's popularity rating is way above that for the appallingly populist ScoMo.


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2018 at 7:51pm
Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Though fortunately for him, Macron's popularity rating is way above that for the appallingly populist ScoMo.

SC, why would you say that when it is a lie?Confused

ScoMo - performance rating 47% ... those are TrumpEsque Numbers!!!

Macron is tanking at 29% Embarrassed

Did you reply to my question yet? ... I have the good manners to reply to all of yours ... you will learn something factual and honest that you can then post with confidence you know!Big smile

btw, do you understand what a populist is?


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Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2018 at 9:09pm
I think the name of this thread is wrong.

It should be Macron is at war with France!

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Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2018 at 9:13pm
Originally posted by VOYAGER VOYAGER wrote:

I think the name of this thread is wrong.

It should be Macron is at war with France!

France is at war with itself.
They are imploding and little boy Macron is fast tracking the implosion.


Posted By: Paul Hogan
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2018 at 9:23pm
Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Though fortunately for him, Macron's popularity rating is way above that for the appallingly populist ScoMo.

SC, why would you say that when it is a lie?Confused

ScoMo - performance rating 47% ... those are TrumpEsque Numbers!!!

Macron is tanking at 29% Embarrassed

Did you reply to my question yet? ... I have the good manners to reply to all of yours ... you will learn something factual and honest that you can then post with confidence you know!Big smile

btw, do you understand what a populist is?


Dumb.

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Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2018 at 10:22pm
Maybe, but not beyond ... well, redemption is the right word ...

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Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2018 at 6:24am
Originally posted by Redemption Redemption wrote:

Originally posted by VOYAGER VOYAGER wrote:

I think the name of this thread is wrong.

It should be Macron is at war with France!


France is at war with itself.
They are imploding and little boy Macron is fast tracking the implosion.

True. France is in big trouble, and was before the wannabe emperor came along.


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2018 at 3:38pm
... but the citizens seem quite happy about the Open Borders policy ... shouldn't that be Islamification?Ermm

French Fear the 'Arabization' of France By Teaching Arabic in Schools


Teaching the Arabic-language in France has always been a debate within the French government. The latest came to light after the French Education Minister presented a proposal of adding the Arabic-language learning within the French school system.

The Education Minister, Jean-Michel Blanquer defended his proposal on one of the local TV stations saying that Arabic is “a very important language, like other great civilizational languages” including Chinese and Russia.

The proposal came as a result of recently-released  http://www.institutmontaigne.org/en/publications/islamist-factory" rel="nofollow - report  by Paris’s Institut Montaigne earlier during this week. It suggested that rejuvenating Arabic-language learning in French school will be essential “since Arabic courses have become for Islamists the best means of attracting young people to their mosques and schools”. It also argued that teaching the Arabic language in schools will help in combating “Islamism” in the country.

Introducing the Arabic-language in French schools was welcomed by Arab families who will not worry about children getting to learn their mother-tongue anymore.The conservative and far-right political forces on the other hand strongly criticized the government accusing it of planning to “Islamise” and “Arabize” France.

The topic captured the social media attention with opinion online divided over it.

Many French people seemed to be opponents of the proposal.

France24 had created a poll on their Twitter account and the results were a majority opposition to adding the Arabic language to schools.

https://www.albawaba.com/loop/french-fear-arabization-france-teaching-arabic-schools-1188418


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Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2018 at 11:58am
France continues to burn.
People describing themselves as simply "people", not representing either the left or right, are out there protesting too.
Macron is hated by all sides.
Western media has finally started covering this, as they can no longer hide peoples outpouring of hate towards Macron on social media.

Dozens of protesters wearing yellow vests run from a fire they lit from pieces of wood in a Paris street, creating smoke




Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2018 at 12:01pm
This is the very reason Trump won and will win again.
He is trying to represent the nations best interest.

Macron is a dumbass globalist, and he bit the hand that feeds him. The citizens.
They can no longer be bitten, as they cant even survive anymore. So they are biting him back.
It is that simplistic.

Globalism doesnt work, end of story.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2018 at 12:02pm
Has the war started yet? Have I got time to step out for lunch?

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Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2018 at 12:06pm
Has Hillary been arrested yet or was that November 2019 

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Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2018 at 5:19pm
Originally posted by Redemption Redemption wrote:

This is the very reason Trump won and will win again.
He is trying to represent the nations best interest.

Macron is a dumbass globalist, and he bit the hand that feeds him. The citizens.
They can no longer be bitten, as they cant even survive anymore. So they are biting him back.
It is that simplistic.

Globalism doesnt work, end of story.

I disagree redemption.

Globalisation, does work, if everyone plays by the same rules, and if all nations have a fair share of the resources.

When you get US, China, French and English companies, among others, buying up all the resources and the resource companies, and then hoarding the financial gains from those resource usages, that is when you get farmers in France, whose government, sold them out in free market trade agreements, burning Paris.

As has been said many times, by both sides of the political spectrum, there is enough food, resources and materials, needed to feed, secure and safeguard, every person on the planet. but when you get individuals who have as much wealth as over 70% of the nations on the planet, that is where you get the feeling for the need to riot.


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Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 10:05am
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Has the war started yet? Have I got time to step out for lunch?

YES. The French are eating each other.


Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 10:19am
voyager, a lot of ifs in your reply.

the trouble with your scenario, are imbalances of power; the powerful will ALWAYS suppress the weaker.

globalization works for the chinese because it has made them RICH. and they are not going to give it up.

france seems to be experiencing a "let them eat cake" scenario. will macron lose his head?


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 10:19am
Originally posted by Redemption Redemption wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Has the war started yet? Have I got time to step out for lunch?

YES. The French are eating each other.

I am sure the dishes are well prepared, French are culinary masters 


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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 11:11am
Redemption, if Macron said tomorrow that he had a change of mind on a fuel tax, would the war be cancelled?

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Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 12:48pm
who knows pt. you and your hypothetical s.




Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 1:09pm
Is Macron doing anything that he didn't say he was going to do before the election, or is he doing an Abbott?


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Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 1:53pm
dont know t.

You tell us.

as for abbott, is he the only one?


Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 2:04pm
Its not just about fuel.
Western Media are pitching it as "fight for fuel, and "hooligans".

Its been building for a year, hence why I started a thread as this was always going to escalate.

nancy boy Macron is a puppet, pushing a globalist agenda, and its failing far faster than what he would have envisaged.
Its not just about fuels. Thats a scam.
Its just one factor of many.
France in general, is falling apart.
Visegrad 4 nations have turned their back on France.
England did a Brexit, and is clinging by a thread.

If Macron continues this path, France is either going to burn to the ground, or he will end up dead. Its one or the other, its that bad now.

Let me put it this way, the odds of someone assassinating Macron, is now even far more likely than Trump being assassinated.
This has been brewing and brewing and now making major headlines here.

The media here didnt even show the peaceful protests in France, months ago. Millions of people marched, it was one of the biggest protests in world history, and media here didnt even show one second of it. Astonishing.
I had to watch Hungarian news to see it.



Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 2:47pm
do they have a trump like figure to replace Macron?




Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 4:49pm
Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

do they have a trump like figure to replace Macron?



A snail would be more noble and decent than Macron.
Maybe a frog.
Send them a cane toad. Wouldnt want a frog at risk.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 4:52pm
Has a state of emergency been declared yet? Wont be long.

Lock up these rent an anarchists for 20 years and see how keen they are to come out looting and burning innocent peoples homes and businesses the following weekend.




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Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 5:12pm
Fuel is expensive but seems a strange thing to riot over, not like it is food or water.

The French love their violent protest, student riots circa 1969


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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 5:18pm
The sooner they go electric the better.

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Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 5:22pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Has a state of emergency been declared yet? Wont be long.

Lock up these rent an anarchists for 20 years and see how keen they are to come out looting and burning innocent peoples homes and businesses the following weekend.



are they the same crowd that rant and rave against trump pt?


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 5:27pm
No Isaac, Trump protesters are in their millions and zero violence.

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Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 5:31pm
that would depend on what angle you come from pt, and your measure of violence.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 5:32pm

Millions of protesters have taken to the streets of cities in the US and around the globe to rally against the new US President Donald Trump.

Larger numbers of demonstrators than expected turned out for more than 600 rallies worldwide

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38705586" rel="nofollow - http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38705586

Image result for womens marches usa


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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 5:33pm
Do they have protest marches in China Isaac, or do they still roll tanks over them?

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Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 5:36pm
where did this come from pt?

Trump inauguration: Violent protests in Washington DC

Violent protests broke out and a limo was set on fire in Washington DC as President Donald Trump was sworn in as president. http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-38700648/trump-inauguration-violent-protests-in-washington-dc" rel="nofollow - www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-38700648/trump-inauguration-violent-protests-in-washington-dc



Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 5:37pm
china? any would be protesters are sent for re education pt.

you know thatLOL


Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 5:39pm

Timeline of protests against Donald Trump

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_protests_against_Donald_Trump


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 5:46pm
So all those hundreds of protests with millions of people involved and one car torched?

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Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 5:53pm
you sure about that pt?


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 5:55pm
Just going by the links you posted.

Are you saying that anti Trump marches are violent like the ones in France, bearing in mind that anti Trump includes Republicans with Democrats and Independents. 


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Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 6:24pm
Amazing comparing the bleaters on this thread to the Trump hysteria.


Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 6:39pm
you win pt.

the state of emergency is imminent...i presume.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 6:47pm
Don't know, but a state of emergency isn't a win for anyone and should be avoided. 

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Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2018 at 7:45pm
Where is the MSM coverage of this? The silence is more than deafening.


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2018 at 8:55pm
Increase in fuel tax has been cancelled by Macron

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Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2018 at 9:18pm
Well done whale. Good googling.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2018 at 9:19pm

French government preparing to suspend fuel tax increases: source


PARIS (Reuters) - The French government is preparing to suspend fuel tax increases, a government source said on Tuesday, following violent protests against the measures.

Prime Minister Edouard Philippe was due to announce the suspension later on Tuesday, the source added, in what would mark President Emmanuel Macron’s first significant U-turn on a major policy since taking power in 2017.

The so-called “yellow vests” protests, which started on Nov. 17, were focused on denouncing a squeeze on household spending brought about by Macron’s taxes on diesel, which he says are necessary to combat climate change and protect the environment.

However, they have since evolved into a bigger, general anti-Macron uprising, with many criticizing the president for pursuing policies they claim favor the richest members of French society.

Protests in Paris on Saturday turned particularly violent, with the Arc de Triomphe defaced and avenues off the capital’s Champs Elysees suffering damage.

The demonstrations have been given the “yellow vest” tag due to the fluorescent jackets kept in all vehicles in France, and the protests are estimated to have cost millions to the economy.

Reporting by Simon Carraud and Marine Pennetier; Editing by Laurence Frost and Keith Weir

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-protests/french-government-preparing-to-suspend-fuel-tax-increases-source-idUSKBN1O30MX" rel="nofollow - https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-protests/french-government-preparing-to-suspend-fuel-tax-increases-source-idUSKBN1O30MX



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Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2018 at 9:23pm
Thanks reuters


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2018 at 9:34pm
Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Thanks reuters

   That's OK stayer ,   i'm sure your referring to me.


Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2018 at 10:24pm
The frogs dont know how good they have it.


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Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2018 at 1:15pm

France's 'gilets jaunes' are angry, and clearly not going to take it anymore

http://theconversation.com/" rel="nofollow - The Conversation  
By Claude Poissenot

Updated Tue at 9:48am

France's "gilets jaunes" protests of December 1 were marked not only by their anger and  https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-france-protests/yellow-vest-protesters-battle-riot-police-in-paris-81-arrested-idUKKCN1O02WH" rel="nofollow - violence , but also by the variety of people taking part.

The violence of the protests, named for the yellow vests worn by those on the streets, is partly the work of extremist, anarchist groups pursuing illusory political goals.

Others involved are casseurs or "wreckers", who've inserted themselves in the movement to fight the police and loot stores for the appeal of doing damage and the lure of personal profit.

But it seems that some of the gilets jaunes themselves wanted to fight. Above all, they are expressing their anger out loud.

The 'people' fight back as living costs soar

The protesters consider themselves as representative of "the people". Their motives — which include falling purchasing power and rising taxes — are often coupled with frustrations about the gap between the French government and its citizens. This theme has come out in the choice of sites targeted in the violence — the Elysée presidential palace, administrative buildings, banks and luxury shops.Many of those protesting feel neglected and oppressed. For the most part they're employed, but their incomes often don't meet their needs, despite the exhaustion they feel from their work. The simple promise of being able to live off one's income is no longer being kept. It's no longer possible for somebody to lead their life as they please.

How can the ideal of autonomy be achieved if the riches of society aren't shared more widely?

These are the sentiments felt by couples who say they "can't get by" despite having two jobs, or young workers who still live with their parents because their income is insufficient or too unstable for them to move out.

The anger on display in the protests stems from this impossible equation. And since the  https://www.franceculture.fr/sociologie/classes-sociales-un-concept-en-voie-de-disparition" rel="nofollow - collective notion of social class has disappeared  in France, this anger is now being experienced on a personal level. Difficult living conditions are now more a matter of personal experience than a condition of class.

The anger from within

Religion has long sought to control anger by placing it among the deadly sins. Yet, as French society has become more secular, religion is no longer working to hold anger back.

French society is also made up of people who think of themselves as autonomous. Today's important relationship is with one's self — there is a value placed on authenticity, on personal development, or on listening to your own body.

As the distance from those who govern us increases, it's become convenient to listen to ourselves and our emotions much more.

The success of emoticons in messaging apps and texts are a clear sign of this, and personal feelings are now guiding our lives in thousands of different ways.

In this context, anger is understandable because it's experienced as a moment of internal connection or clarity. I am even more myself because I am angry — because I'm as close as possible to the inner fire that animates and illuminates me. The pronoun "I" actually fuels this anger. It's a form of self-expression, like a work of art is for an artist.

At the barricades, or on animated conversations on Facebook, people have the opportunity to meet others with whom they can share and multiply anger that has only been experienced personally until now.

Fuelling more anger

Political parties and trade unions also once controlled and channelled this anger. Now, they no longer can. They've been accused of trying to use the gilets jaunes movement or even trying to subvert a point of view that's deeply personal. Those in power are confronted with groups of people acting individually, some of whose self-esteem is centred around their anger.

As the old saying goes, la colère est mauvaise conseillère or "anger is a bad counsellor". New perspectives and alternative ways forward are urgently needed.

There are few tangible signs that the anger of the gilets jaunes is being taken seriously, and this is perceived as a sign of contempt — not for the organisation, since there is none, but for each person wearing a yellow vest.

That will further fuel their anger.

In the face of many individual experiences that have sparked such anger, it's necessary to explore and develop rational arguments. At the same time, we can't forget how each person wearing a yellow vest experiences his or her own situation. It won't be possible to achieve the first without the second.

Learning to be oneself

When the anger subsides, France must learn lessons from the unprecedented gilets jaunes movement. The crisis of representation is deeply affecting the way people are defining themselves politically.

In  https://www.lejdd.fr/Politique/exclusif-des-gilets-jaunes-lancent-un-appel-nous-voulons-etre-les-porte-parole-dune-colere-constructive-3811841" rel="nofollow - an appeal  published on December 1 in the French newspaper Journal du Dimanche, a group calling itself the "gilets jaunes libres" called for regular referendums on large social issues and proportional representation at the next parliamentary elections. This is not surprising. Other ways of moving forward need to be explored, including establishing representative groups drawn at random from lists of voters — a  https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/oct/14/voting-undermines-the-will-of-the-people-its-time-to-replace-it-with-sortition" rel="nofollow - process known as sortition .From the point of view of citizens, work is needed to be done to better understand the place of the individual within contemporary society. Everyone has a claim to construct their life in the way they want to — and this is an essential source of liberation. We are fortunate to live in a society that opens up so many opportunities for us all — one that's a long way away from the rigid social restrictions of the past.

But this freedom cannot be without limits. It involves participating in the community and caring for others. How can France bring together individuals who think they are autonomous but who have to live in a world of finite resources? It is this dizzying question that we must answer, each and every one of us.

Claude Poissenot is a research professor at IUT Nancy-Charlemagne and at the Centre for Research on Mediation at the University of Lorraine. This article first appeared on  https://theconversation.com/why-frances-gilets-jaunes-protesters-are-so-angry-108100" rel="nofollow - The Conversation .



Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2018 at 5:04pm
Macron would be slightly left of Labor in Australia.


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Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2018 at 5:36pm
Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Macron would be slightly left of Labor in Australia.


PT


Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2018 at 1:21am
They think they are hard done by while the EU props up all their farming etc.  They need to get out of France and see how the rest of the world does it.
A 2 bedroom cottage on the edge of a big city,,,Toulouse ,,,,with all mod cons etc,,,the same sort of one here where I live , in the sticks, would sell for approx 400 thous $$$  There it was 45 thous euros.  Whats that ?  About 100 thousand dollars ?? 
Yes its expensive in Paris, but not much worse than Sydney, but out in the country side its no worse than here in Ozz. 


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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2018 at 9:59am
Who does Macron negotiate with on the fuel tax or budget repair issues?

The anarchist rent a mob?


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Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2018 at 10:16am
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Who does Macron negotiate with on the fuel tax or budget repair issues?



The banking elite that nancyboy puppet Macron represents.

The odds of Macron being assassinated is now more like $1.01

Both the right wing, the left wing, the conservatives, hate his guts.

I note the western media now trying to say its just a few hooligans that are protesting. LOL
Tell that to the millions of normal French citizens that have been peacefully protesting against puppet Macron throughout this year.




Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2018 at 5:52pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Who does Macron negotiate with on the fuel tax or budget repair issues?

The anarchist rent a mob?

Suddenly anarchist rent-a-mobs exist to the people who pretended they didn't. Those rent-a-mobs sure do a good job of obfuscating things that matter to honest folk, don't they?


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2018 at 6:06pm
I dont even know what that means. Clown

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Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2018 at 6:51pm
Which bit?


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2018 at 6:55pm
Dont worry. I am sure it is only a potshot, and I dont really want it clarified.

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Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2018 at 6:59pm
Nah really, which bit? I would have thought that rent-a-mobs are pretty well known about these days?


Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2018 at 9:59pm
The rent a crowd only exist, in pts mind, when pt's side is out numbered.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 6:44am
Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

The rent a crowd only exist, in pts mind, when pt's side is out numbered.

From the second paragraph of the article you posted yesterday. Do you even read what you post?



The violence of the protests, named for the yellow vests worn by those on the streets, is partly the work of extremist, anarchist groups pursuing illusory political goals.

Others involved are casseurs or "wreckers", who've inserted themselves in the movement to fight the police and loot stores for the appeal of doing damage and the lure of personal profit.



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Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 5:17pm
I don't think anyone's doubting rent-a-mobs exist. Maybe you, until now?
What's interesting in France is the huge support of the yellow vesters from all types of people across the spectrum for only the same handful of reasons- and funnily enough desiring anarchy doesn't make the list for any of them. Funny how the MSM has chosen to over-emphasize the influence of the anarchist losers and professional protestors in France, while counting the same types as legitimate protestors against Trump etc.
Crazy world.


Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 5:24pm
This should be way bigger news than all the US gossip. Something big is happening in a key country of world politics, and for reasons that matter to the whole globalism experiment. And we hear next to nothing about it.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 5:59pm
The mob haven't started constructing guillotines yet have they?

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Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 6:03pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

The mob haven't started constructing guillotines yet have they?

And there we go again making light of it. I'd call you "racist" but I think it's less than that.


Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 6:34pm
Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

This should be way bigger news than all the US gossip. Something big is happening in a key country of world politics, and for reasons that matter to the whole globalism experiment. And we hear next to nothing about it.

The retreat to nationalism isn't faring so well either. Look at the Brexit debacle. As much of, if not bigger story.


Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 6:39pm
Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

This should be way bigger news than all the US gossip. Something big is happening in a key country of world politics, and for reasons that matter to the whole globalism experiment. And we hear next to nothing about it.


The retreat to nationalism isn't faring so well either. Look at the Brexit debacle. As much of, if not bigger story.

Thanks to a weak leader to begin with...


Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 6:48pm
Lot more to it than that. Idealism mugged by reality.


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 7:07pm
Can't see how the yellow vest French whingers protest has much to do with globalism.

Who are the protesters and what are their grievances?

Protesters have largely come from https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/24/paris-fuel-tax-protest-macron-france-poverty" rel="nofollow - peripheral towns, cities and rural areas across France and include many women and single mothers. Most of the protesters have jobs, including as secretaries, IT workers, factory workers, delivery workers and care workers. All say their low incomes mean they cannot make ends meet at the end of the month.

The movement is predominantly against a tax system perceived as unfair and unjust, but there are numerous grievances and differences of opinion. Most want to scrap the fuel taxes, hold a review of the tax system, raise the minimum wage and roll back Macron’s tax cuts for the wealthy and his pro-business economic programme. But some also want parliament dissolved and Macron to resign.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/03/who-are-the-gilets-jaunes-and-what-do-they-want




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Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 7:14pm
The thing to remember about Macron is the he doesn’t belong to one of the traditional parties. He positioned himself as a true centrist, but was never that popular, getting a modest percentage (around 25%?) of the initial vote. He won the Presidential run off in a landslide because voters of the traditional centre left and centre right parties aligned with him against Le Pen. And the opposition to him now seems to be coming from everywhere.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 7:21pm
He is similar to a Clinton/Blair/Keating Third Way centrist movement exponent. They temper globalization with social equity and self empowerment through health workplace  and education reform.

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Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 8:42pm
Ok. Compare the France situation to our brown island and maybe enough people here will have a say.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 9:00pm
Compare the current Paris situation to the 2005 Paris riots where 10,000 cars were burned and the suburbs blazed for a month. What is the difference? I think they are the same, and it is just that the inequality problems then haven't been addressed adequately.

If we continue to have stagnant wages growth with lowering employment security and dropping living standards we will eventually face the same issues here. Currently our safety nets are better than most, so it hasn't caught up yet, but it will.


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Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 9:07pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Compare the current Paris situation to the 2005 Paris riots where 10,000 cars were burned and the suburbs blazed for a month. What is the difference? I think they are the same, and it is just that the inequality problems then haven't been addressed adequately.

If we continue to have stagnant wages growth with lowering employment security and dropping living standards we will eventually face the same issues here. Currently our safety nets are better than most, so it hasn't caught up yet, but it will.

Don't have a clue what you are talking about with all that money stuff, and pretty sure most people in France don't either, past daily life. That's a big reason why there is such a movement against Macron. Maybe he understands money stuff better than the people?


Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 9:32pm
Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Ok. Compare the France situation to our brown island and maybe enough people here will have a say.

Thinking the same stayer, however, i think aussies are too LAZY to protest like that.

Not unless the crowd ....is hired!

Is that why Australia has the political system it has?

PM's dont stay long enough in the seat , to get shot! Moving targets hard to focus on.


Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2018 at 9:42pm
Don't know about what Aussies do politically but care about what's happening in the world.


Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2018 at 12:40pm
"148 high school students arrested today in Mantis-la-Jolie, France. They are protesting against changes to colleges and the university system".


So high school students are part of rent a mob too?
LOL




Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2018 at 12:52pm
Probably, it is a very broad grassroots movement. Macron agreed to shelve the fuel tax and the collective produced another list of 20 demands.

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Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2018 at 9:38am
It was never just about a fuel tax.
Approximately 75% citizens of France have multiple issues with Macron.

The biggest reason France is in trouble, isnt just because Macron is a failed wannabe Dictator, the vast majority of Europe dont want anything to do with France. Because of Macron.

Then he made some bizarre plea to create a European army. LOL
He is possibly the most delusional and strange puppet of the modern era.
France is voting him out anyway. Its a short lived delusional puppet.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2018 at 9:42am
In 2022?

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Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2018 at 10:32am
Originally posted by Redemption Redemption wrote:

It was never just about a fuel tax.
Approximately 75% citizens of France have multiple issues with Macron.

The biggest reason France is in trouble, isnt just because Macron is a failed wannabe Dictator, the vast majority of Europe dont want anything to do with France. Because of Macron.

Then he made some bizarre plea to create a European army. LOL
He is possibly the most delusional and strange puppet of the modern era.
France is voting him out anyway. Its a short lived delusional puppet.

Is Daddy Trump a successful wannabe dictator Confused


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Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2018 at 10:40am
Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Originally posted by Redemption Redemption wrote:

It was never just about a fuel tax.
Approximately 75% citizens of France have multiple issues with Macron.

The biggest reason France is in trouble, isnt just because Macron is a failed wannabe Dictator, the vast majority of Europe dont want anything to do with France. Because of Macron.

Then he made some bizarre plea to create a European army. LOL
He is possibly the most delusional and strange puppet of the modern era.
France is voting him out anyway. Its a short lived delusional puppet.


Is Daddy Trump a successful wannabe dictator Confused

   Trump is a once in a lifetime gift, who is restoring the West to The rightful position of power.
Reliable and proven to be successful ie.   North Korea is quiet, plus most areas know he won't take shxt.    
The base in NG is another manouver to put China on notice.


Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2018 at 10:44am
90% of European nations want to make great deals with Trump.
And 90% of Europe dont want anything to do with Macron.
That pretty much says enough.


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2018 at 10:50am
Originally posted by Redemption Redemption wrote:

"148 high school students arrested today in Mantis-la-Jolie, France. They are protesting against changes to colleges and the university system".


So high school students are part of rent a mob too?
LOL



wow students protesting, now that is unusual LOL


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Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2018 at 10:53am
A survey of 10,000 Europeans, also showed that 80% of European citizens support a Trump-style travel ban of immigrants


Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2018 at 5:40pm
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6477953/Yellow-Vest-protesters-erect-GUILLOTINE-bearing-French-Presidents-political-party-amid-riots.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6477953/Yellow-Vest-protesters-erect-GUILLOTINE-bearing-French-Presidents-political-party-amid-riots.html


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2018 at 6:00pm
I read today that there were protest in Poland that the government is not doing enough about climate change

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Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2018 at 6:24pm
Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

I read today that there were protest in Poland that the government is not doing enough about climate change

It's certainly a divisive issue...


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2018 at 6:50pm
Unless Macron is breaking election promises big time I say put the water cannon, the teargas, the billy clubs, the rubber bullets and the dogs on to the bastards. And even if he is, do it anyway.Tongue People who trash shops and burn cars are not protesting against broken election promises- they have other motives.


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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2018 at 6:57pm
Macron promised to govern from the center and to lift everyone at the same time. 

Punters however see tax cuts for the wealthy as a betrayal and then the fuel tax penalizing workers and asking them to pay for climate change reducing measures, when big business who got tax breaks are the main polluters, was too much. 

Now that they have his attention and he has backed down on the fuel tax, unions are putting demands to him to do something for the workers instead.


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Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2018 at 7:51pm
#NFI


Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2018 at 7:51pm
Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Unless Macron is breaking election promises big time I say put the water cannon, the teargas, the billy clubs, the rubber bullets and the dogs on to the bastards. And even if he is, do it anyway.Tongue People who trash shops and burn cars are not protesting against broken election promises- they have other motives.


What they are doing to people,s shops and livelyhood is beyond disgusting. Shocked  If they cant get their point across without trashing other,s shops/cars etc they need to give up.  Not to mention tourism.  I love,,well did love,,,Paris, but i would not be going there now. 
Just blatantly throwing bricks thru shop windows , like, what good is that going to do ? Confused Destroying property is going to help them and their cause how ?? Clown
Rent-A-Crowd at its best. 


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Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2018 at 7:54pm
There's a few words in french for the lollipops who are smashing things, AA.
They have nothing to do with the common people.


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2018 at 7:56pm
I've seen crowd numbers quoted as 10k in which case they're a tiny minority. The country voted for Macron, presumably to do the job he is, like or lump it.

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