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Topic: MELBOURNE KILLING
Posted By: maccamax
Subject: MELBOURNE KILLING
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:04pm
Another Melbourne killing and fires ( bombs?)

Middle Eastern appearance .

Another Psychiatric in the Community Living ?



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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:05pm
Slow down.

What happened ?



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Posted By: Heavy10
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:05pm
Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

   Another Melbourne killing and fires ( bombs?)

Middle Eastern appearance .

Another Psychiatric in the Community Living ?


African I think


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:11pm
Looked African to me too .     Police said Middle Eastern.

On the news now Djebel .
   
Set his car on fire ,    caused several big explosions , Then proceeded to stab people .
Attacked Police ( all on video )   with knife , Two of the Police tried to subdue him ( MIGHTY job ) but it got to a dangerous stage and one young looking Policeman pulled his gun and shot him ...   They deserve a medal. They tried hard not to shoot him.
   


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:15pm
Not long back a ratbag randomly ran down people in the Melbourne CBD, the driver an Australian of Mediterranean descent.

Funny, his ethnicity has never been highlighted here or elsewhere.


Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:16pm
Killed 1 person
2 others injured

Man responsible in hospital, critical, after being shot by police. He tried to stab the police


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:17pm
And I think his trial started this week by unfortunate coincidence.

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Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:17pm
he is dead

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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:19pm
Amazing restraint shown by police. Had it been America the guy would have had 50 rounds in him, and maybe should have.

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Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:22pm
Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

he is dead


Has he passed away ?... 1 dead at scene .   The offender critical from the gunshot in Hospital , a 3 others from the stabbings Hospitalised .


Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:23pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Amazing restraint shown by police. Had it been America the guy would have had 50 rounds in him, and maybe should have.

WTF? "And maybe should have"? Nice.


Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:24pm
Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

he is dead


No he is still breathing.
He stabbed someone who was in vehicle with him before setting it on fire, that person is deceased.


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:25pm
Originally posted by Prince of Penzance Prince of Penzance wrote:

Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

he is dead


No he is still breathing.
He stabbed someone who was in vehicle with him before setting it on fire, that person is deceased.

okay, maybe I misheard on radio


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Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:26pm
Ban Knives.


Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:27pm
Vic Police commissioner and premier of Victoria holding press conference at 2030hrs
Will be live streamed on Victoria Police FB page


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:30pm
Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Amazing restraint shown by police. Had it been America the guy would have had 50 rounds in him, and maybe should have.

WTF? "And maybe should have"? Nice.

Have you seen the video? Police were taking extraordinary risks with their own lives and the public, sparring with him wielding a knife after already having stabbed people.


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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:32pm
He is dead now.

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Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:32pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Amazing restraint shown by police. Had it been America the guy would have had 50 rounds in him, and maybe should have.

WTF? "And maybe should have"? Nice.


Have you seen the video? Police were taking extraordinary risks with their own lives and the public, sparring with him wielding a knife after already having stabbed people.

Yes I've seen the video.


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:33pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Amazing restraint shown by police. Had it been America the guy would have had 50 rounds in him, and maybe should have.


Police were very much hampered by the crowds everywhere.

The firearm was a very last resort ( Too much risk of hitting pedestrians )

I only heard one gunshot ( probably for that reason )

    He was a very big Man.


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:37pm
Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

He is dead now.
died 30 minutes after admitted to hospital


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Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:39pm
3 stabbed, 1 since died. All men.

Offender since died.

Vehicle had up to 6 BBQ Gas bottles in it, which caused the explosion.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:51pm

The warning sirens sound for the first time

http://www.smh.com.au/national/victoria/the-warning-sirens-sound-for-the-first-time-20181109-p50f62.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.smh.com.au/national/victoria/the-warning-sirens-sound-for-the-first-time-20181109-p50f62.html


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Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:57pm
I got the emergency text message warning at 5.30pm. An hour after it had happened.
Even though I was about 25km away


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 9:05pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Amazing restraint shown by police. Had it been America the guy would have had 50 rounds in him, and maybe should have.


Let the mongrel get too close to him

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Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 9:06pm
Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Amazing restraint shown by police. Had it been America the guy would have had 50 rounds in him, and maybe should have.


Let the mongrel get too close to him

Wow


Posted By: Heavy10
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 9:12pm
Was known to Asio, now being treated as terrorism


Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 9:21pm
Oh for fs sake, just a random african muslim guy.. plenty (of muslim) more where he comes from.
No news.


Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 9:31pm
Glad he is dead.
Unlike that other mongrel, still costing us hundreds of thousands a year whilst in the crazy house.


Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 10:08pm
The media as per usual, we attempt to say, "life must go on", and then simply make us accept this, and "normalise" terrorism.

This is the very reason Hungary put up the fences 3 years ago.
How many terror attacks in Hungary?
NONE.

Hungary refused to normalise terrorism.




Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 10:19pm
The Lord Mayor didnt mention terrorism once on Twitter.

instead "we" have to seek Lifeline.
We are the problem

Seriously Australia, WAKE THE F#CK UP. You are being had.

https://twitter.com/LordMayorMelb?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1060822097058914304&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.abc.net.au%2Fnews%2F2018-11-09%2Flive-blog%3A-bourke-street-attack-man-in-custody-after-stabbings%2F10483788" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/LordMayorMelb?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1060822097058914304&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.abc.net.au%2Fnews%2F2018-11-09%2Flive-blog%3A-bourke-street-attack-man-in-custody-after-stabbings%2F10483788


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 10:24pm
   Should make the open borders believers ,   stop & think.

Melbourne is getting hell from these African migrants .    It's time for the
Lnp to get in and house these offenders. in Gaols in the desert.


Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 10:31pm
Dont the victorian coppers use taser guns?

They looked silly and completely inadequate waving their batons.

No wonder Victorian law and order is failing.




Posted By: goldey
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 11:27pm
Cattle prod to the testicles would of made him drop the knife pretty quickly , then once to the tip of his nose as he bent over in agony , surprised our police dont know what will drop someone .šŸŽŖ


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 12:55am
Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

Dont the victorian coppers use taser guns?

They looked silly and completely inadequate waving their batons.

No wonder Victorian law and order is failing.




Those 2 Police did a wonderful job .    Not easy trying to subdue mad men , especially one who has already stabbed many and was not about to stop his attack .     Police manouvered him into a position and had no alternative but to save many lives by shooting him.

Top marks to the civilian who tried to impede him with a shop trolley.

All three should get bravery awards.     . Armchair critics, a kick in the Balls or wherever.


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 12:57am
Originally posted by goldey goldey wrote:

Cattle prod to the testicles would of made him drop the knife pretty quickly , then once to the tip of his nose as he bent over in agony , surprised our police dont know what will drop someone .šŸŽŖ


Your a dreamer Goldey.


Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 1:11am
Doesnt matter what the cops do, someone will always find fault and say it should have been handled better.  I just think these complaining fault finding people should get out there and have a go at dealing with situations, and people,  like this one was.   Thing was they didnt have a cattle prod handy, Goldy.  Cops dont carry those.  Would have been wonderfull to see it tho !!Thumbs Up Big smileAnd when they use tasers they get called brutal, Isaac. What would you have done in that situation then ???    They didnt look silly at all.   They looked like blokes doing their job and doing their best to take down a nutter ,  and they did that before he did more damage. 
How many more nutters are out cops going to have to deal with ?   And when will the general public wise up and see what a terribel situation they face in cases like this ??


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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 1:13am
woops,,spelling and cant correct.Cry


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animals before people.


Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 1:15am
Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

He is dead now.


Good.    Tax payers wont have to pay for his medical and legal bills. 


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Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 1:33am
Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

woops,,spelling and cant correct.Cry


Inches from death every time that mad man lashed out = were the Police .

They circled and engaged him perfectly .    On their mind is the many innocents around them .
The gun fire had to be spot on or more dead...   GREAT job.

A much better Police action than the Dumbo's
storming into Martin Place by the dozens.


Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 2:02am
I have nothing but admiration for the job the cops do, dealing with these druggos and would be terrorists.  They get out there and take them on, and they are dammed if they do and dammed if they dont.
Those cops today.   They faced down that absolute nutter weilding a knife .  They tried to sudue him , with no luck, before they shot him, and now they will be under the spotlite as to their actions, because he has died.
Who cares he died,,,,tax payers would have funded his medical care and his legal aide,,which would have gone on and on forever. 
My thoughts are with the cops.


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Posted By: Sister Dot
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 7:18am
We had a court judge come out and make a public statement last week stating that the press reports on the ragged state of law and order in Vic is somewhat over exaggerated.
In particular when itā€™s to do with African gangs and violence.
Wonder what heā€™s on?

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Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 7:37am
Congratulations to the police for putting a bullet in him a I say.


Posted By: goldey
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 8:47am
What i dont undersand in incidents like this is the coroners inquest . Rightly so for the innocent victims but if money is wasted trying to work out the details of the nutters death i would be pissed off . Just show the footage supplied to the media around 1 minute to the inquest , then the chair man of the inquest says "good shot that" , now lets have a break and a cup of tea .


Posted By: rusty nails
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 9:01am
Thatā€™s ridiculous.
If you donā€™t have inquests to determine whether reasonable force was used.
Then every Police shooting is automatically sanctioned.

as with the inquest in Sydney for the nutter in the Lindt siege,itā€™s not just to determine whether the Police had the right to shoot him, itā€™s to determine whether current strategies to contain are fit for purpose.


Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 9:09am
Need to ramp up Duttons program to remove ratbags/ nut cases out of the country back to where they came from. About 3000 criminals have been deported over the past two years. Pity it wasn't 3001

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Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 11:00am
As Victoria Police raid properties in Melbourne's north and west following yesterday's terrorism attack, the identity of the man who carried out the fatal stabbing in Bourke Street has been confirmed as Hassan Khalif Shire Ali.

The Somali-born man, aged in his early 30s, crashed his car loaded with gas bottles in the Melbourne CBD and stabbed three people before he was shot by police and died in hospital.

The ABC understands he is also known as Hassan Ali and Hassan Khalif, and recently moved from his family's Werribee home because of problems with substance abuse.

His family is well-known and respected within the Somali community in the region, and attended the Virgin Mary Mosque in Hoppers Crossing.

It is believed Mr Ali most commonly attended prayer in Melbourne's northern suburbs.

Mr Ali is understood to have previously been investigated for his association with others linked to terrorism.

Police also said in a statement that investigators were "executing search warrants at two addresses in Werribee and Meadows Heights".

Chief Commissioner Graham Ashton last night confirmed Shire Ali died in hospital, and that he was known to intelligence authorities.

One man, who is yet to be formally identified, died at the scene after the stabbing.

A 26-year-old man is in a stable condition in the Royal Melbourne Hospital, while a 58-year-old also remains in hospital with non-life threatening injuries.

Authorities said there would be an increased police presence around the Melbourne CBD and at major events in the coming days so the public could feel comfortable going about their business, but they did not believe there was an ongoing threat.

Police courage praised

Police are treating the attack as terror-related at this stage, and counter-terrorism investigations are continuing into Shire Ali's background.

Mr Ashton said he believed the suspect moved to Australia from Somalia in 1990s, and that his family members have been known to police on terrorism-related matters.

Mr Ashton said the Myer department store's Christmas windows opened last night and other key events were being held this weekend, and he said there was "no ongoing threat at the moment".

"We have a number of events going on in Melbourne, Stakes day at Flemington, soccer at AAMI Stadium and also Remembrance Day so we are doing security reassessments in light of those events.

"At this stage we are encouraging people to go to those events and there will be additional police over the weekend."

Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews strongly condemned yesterday's attack and thanked police as well as bystanders who courageously stepped in to try to help.

"This is an evil and terrifying thing that has happened in our city and state today and we condemn it," the Premier said.

But we also thank the police who did us proud in very dangerous circumstances.

"We thank our police, we thank those who came to assist them in the protection of other members of the public.

"Victorians can be assured that every member of Victoria Police ā€¦ are equal to the task and will do everything they can in any circumstance to keep Victorians safe."

Victoria's Opposition Leader Matthew Guy also denounced the attack.

"I'll never accept that violent extremism should be a way of life for a big city like Melbourne," he said.

"All the resources of our state should be directed towards keeping Victorians safe. Victorians would say we do not have to live like this."

In a statement, Prime Minister Scott Morrison said he condemned the act of terrorism in Melbourne, describing it as an "evil and cowardly attack".

He said he had been briefed by law enforcement and security agencies and acknowledged the investigation by the Joint Counter Terrorism Team, led by Victoria Police.

"Australians will never be intimidated by these appalling attacks and we will continue to go about our lives and enjoy the freedoms that the terrorists detest," he said.


Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 11:01am
Road blocks in the area are expected to remain in place until at least mid-morning and members of the public are asked to avoid the area on Bourke Street between Russell and Swanston Streets.

Police have asked the public to submit any images or video footage of the attack to help them with their investigation.

Authorities said it was normal for people to have strong emotional or physical reactions after such a distressing or frightening event, and people should seek help from their doctor or by calling a helpline if they needed support.

Melbourne's Lord Mayor Sally Capp sought to reassure the public and praised the police for their swift response.

"Our thoughts are with everybody affected, including family and friends," she said.

"Melburnians should feel reassured of the swift reaction from our police and emergency services who were so quickly, effectively and bravely at the scene dealing with the situation and minimising harm to the public.

"It is at times like this when we need to be incredibly supportive and empathetic of all Melburnians because we will respond to this in different ways, and I hope that we can pull together as a community to really support each other."

Trauma specialist Rob Gordon urged the Melbourne community to learn from the incident and be aware of dangers, but to also not let fear dictate.

"We need to understand and become familiar with risks and hazards," Dr Gordon said.

"Unfortunately the present time has got hazards of this sort where people take in to their minds to attack innocent people.

"It's very important to recognise that we live with all sorts of hazards but we do it successfully by being aware and understanding and careful.

"Fear doesn't help you get more prepared ā€” it makes you jump at shadows and then you tend to get overwhelmed or exhausted and then you shut off


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 11:30am
   Has anyone thought of not bringing more in that cannot accept our culture

You don't hear of some nationalities who migrate here ..   Get the adverts out for them to come settle here.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 11:37am
Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

   Has anyone thought of not bringing more in that cannot accept our culture

You don't hear of some nationalities who migrate here ..   Get the adverts out for them to come settle here.

You mean your personal view of what ''our culture'' is? 


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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 11:56am
Its my personal view as well, PT, not just Maccas.  And many other silent majority,s personal view.   Bring people who can integrate and assimilate.   Not those who,s religion will never fit in with the western world. 


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Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 11:57am
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

   Has anyone thought of not bringing more in that cannot accept our culture

You don't hear of some nationalities who migrate here ..   Get the adverts out for them to come settle here.


You mean your personal view of what ''our culture'' is?Ā 



I think the basics of our culture is well known.

Do you have a different version PT...    ( Don't say join Labor )


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 12:01pm
If maxie and oneone became joint dictators of Australia and imposed their personal definition of ''our culture'', I think I would leave.

It is a different thing to different people. There is no collective silent majority. It is a compromise over an ever expanding evolving breadth of views.




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Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 12:03pm
If you donā€™t like it here, you can kiss off back to where you come from.
Pauline Hanson is right in what she said


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 12:26pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

If maxie and oneone became joint dictators of Australia and imposed their personal definition of ''our culture'', I think I would leave.

It is a different thing to different people. There is no collective silent majority. It is a compromise over an ever expanding evolving breadth of views.




Not one of your best PT.      oneone will be aghast at sharing power with me .        . All we agree on is the length of mini skirts.

We don't worship Allah.    Throw people off buildings , Circumsize the Ladies , have many wives ( thank God )etc etc.


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 12:34pm
Originally posted by Prince of Penzance Prince of Penzance wrote:

If you donā€™t like it here, you can kiss off back to where you come from.
Pauline Hanson is right in what she said

Right about Muslims or about her previous targets which would be any group migrating to Australia in numbers, Greeks and Italians no doubt if she went back that far ?

Barely half of population born in Australia to Australian-born parents


http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jun/27/australia-reaches-tipping-point-with-quarter-of-population-born-overseas" rel="nofollow - http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jun/27/australia-reaches-tipping-point-with-quarter-of-population-born-overseas


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 12:36pm
Dont forget Asians Whale, back to where it all started, and whomever next years demonized group may be.

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Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 1:12pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Dont forget Asians Whale, back to where it all started, and whomever next years demonized group may be.


I think the early Asians were demonized over drug running and assassinating Politicians at one stage .       Italians did declare war on England .        . All new migrants face language barriers etc.
After WW2 , older Ozzies especially had never seen anyone speaking differently.    We were inexperienced , isolated and by no means competitive with the new arrivals in such numbers.
Over time we learnt from them and a great asset they were & are.
I think Melbourne is the 2nd largest Greek City.
I don't recall them being given too hard a time.

    I get worse, being a smoker at times.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 1:24pm
I am old enough to remember growing up a Catholic that Protestants were the enemy maxie. We used to fight with kids from the public school and never mixed with them till about second year in high school.

My parents were denied a church wedding because they were one of each. Dads lodge booted him out and his old mates never talked to him again for marrying a Catholic. 

I am glad we dont still have that culture 


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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 1:48pm
Well I travelled out to Emu Plains with an African gentleman and his two young girlls after a train trip into Sydney.  The two children were very well spoken and lovely and the father was quite spoken and lovely.  We can't just dump everyone together folks.  There are good and bad everywhere.  Look at the killing in Sydney by the young man on ice.  This fellow had issues with drug abuse also it seems.

My mother and father also had that problem religious problem PT.  But Dad was his father inlaws best friend before his death.  His kindness and gentle nature would of won anyone over but considering the fact that Grandpa never came to the wedding my mother must of been good at standing up for herself. 

We have to realise these people have no where to go.  They do have problems - well some of them - but we can help by understanding we have never faced what they have lived through.  Most just want safety for their families.  The media usually only show the worst and not all the good.


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 2:28pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

I am old enough to remember growing up a Catholic that Protestants were the enemy maxie. We used to fight with kids from the public school and never mixed with them till about second year in high school.

My parents were denied a church wedding because they were one of each. Dads lodge booted him out and his old mates never talked to him again for marrying a Catholic.Ā 

I am glad we dont still have that cultureĀ 


I grew up with that at it's worst.   Some places only employed Catholics , others CofE only .       You had to join the football clubs , CYMS or CEBS
   All of that applied to everyone , irrespective of where we were born.
   It was all religious shxt ,   But I don't recall anyone plotting to kill


Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 3:01pm
Dear Waleed Aly,

Your Muslim brother killed our lifelong family friend, Sisto.

How do you feel about that Waleed???


Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 3:06pm
Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

Dont the victorian coppers use taser guns?

They looked silly and completely inadequate waving their batons.

No wonder Victorian law and order is failing.



The 2 police officers were transit police, they are new to the force, only finished at the Academy this year.
They were beyond heroic and are going to be receiving awards.

Sisto, our dear family friend, went to the aid of the Muslim idiot, when his car blew up. Only to be stabbed to death for it.

What you say about that Waleed Aly???




Posted By: rusty nails
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 3:34pm
What arrant nonsense.
If a catholic is a mass shooter do you blame every individual catholic?


Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 4:05pm
I think he's just sick of Aly sticking up for the ones doing the wrong thing.  Sometimes everyone get sick of something.  When we step back then find we can see it was one person.  But the ones preaching this rubbish should not be in Australia.  THey are the ones making waves which ripple out to the ones who are most weakened by life.


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 4:10pm
Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

I think he's just sick of Aly sticking up for the ones doing the wrong thing.  Sometimes everyone get sick of something.  When we step back then find we can see it was one person.  But the ones preaching this rubbish should not be in Australia.  THey are the ones making waves which ripple out to the ones who are most weakened by life.

she is just a repugnant effin moron. This is the piece of crap who calls Michelle Obama a transsexual, has a long history of insane posts on TBV


Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 4:15pm
Hints havenā€™t changed. Brooke still as mad as a cut snake


Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 4:15pm
Originally posted by SkyDancer SkyDancer wrote:

Things havenā€™t changed. Brooke still as mad as a cut snake


Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 4:25pm
Boy sometimes where are very strange on here.


Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 4:53pm
The victim has been confirmed as a 74 year old man who owned a cafe in the area.


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 4:56pm
Originally posted by Prince of Penzance Prince of Penzance wrote:

The victim has been confirmed as a 74 year old man who owned a cafe in the area.

Pellegrini, an institution in Melbourne


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 5:10pm
Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

What arrant nonsense.
If a catholic is a mass shooter do you blame every individual catholic?


ALL Muslims are not Terrorists , BUT 99.9% of Terrorists are MUSLIMS


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 5:13pm
Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

What arrant nonsense.
If a catholic is a mass shooter do you blame every individual catholic?


ALL Muslims are not Terrorists , BUT 99.9% of Terrorists are MUSLIMS

Mass shootings committed,  not terrorism I guess so that is fine, 99% white men


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 5:27pm
That is different Whale, those shoot em up white boys are mentally unwell.

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Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 5:41pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

That is different Whale, those shoot em up white boys are mentally unwell.


They are all mentally ill PT .   Wherever they come from or Colour.

Would have to be .    Most are Religious Maniacs , brainwashed , just like we spoke of earlier.


Posted By: scamanda
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 7:12pm
The young officer who shot the terrorist has been in the police force for about 3 months.
Imagine how he would be feeling right now.



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I started with nothing and still have most of it left


Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 7:18pm
Good perspective in an otherwise garbage thread, scamanda.


Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 8:51pm
ISIS, again proving what a world power it is, killing an elderly man that makes pasta.




Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 9:06pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

If maxie and oneone became joint dictators of Australia and imposed their personal definition of ''our culture'', I think I would leave.

It is a different thing to different people. There is no collective silent majority. It is a compromise over an ever expanding evolving breadth of views.


. Trust me PT - we would save you from having to make that decision. One way ticket on the first boat out of here to one of those really tolerant middle eastern joints . Enjoy

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Refer ALP Election Promises


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 12:25am
Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

What arrant nonsense.
If a catholic is a mass shooter do you blame every individual catholic?


ALL Muslims are not Terrorists , BUT 99.9% of Terrorists are MUSLIMS


Mass shootings committed,Ā  not terrorism I guess so that is fine, 99% white men


Whatever Whale ,   The biggest mistake we have made was closing the Schedule 5 Psychiatric hospitals.
The System worked and those that were a risk to society were monitored for life.   Long Leave it was termed & part of the release conditions was regular reporting and any change of address.
Breach conditions and back into detention    
Probably a lot less than 5% of people with Mental Illness are of any danger at all, to Society.
Usually they are Decent , love able people who just need some help & understanding.
Too long and involved to put on here but I have never heard of anyone who worked in the area, support the Present arrangements .
May I add ,   the worst offenders , usually have a history of Psychiatric Admissions ,       Ivan Milat , Anita Cobby killers , just to name a couple.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 8:53am
maxie, in what category do you place men who murder their wives or partners? 13 since October 1st 120 on average per year in Australia. 

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Posted By: goldey
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 10:24am
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

   Has anyone thought of not bringing more in that cannot accept our culture

You don't hear of some nationalities who migrate here ..   Get the adverts out for them to come settle here.


You mean your personal view of what ''our culture'' is?Ā 


We are all decendants of migrants ,accept for the people who were here at 40000years ago , did our forefathers accept their culture , i Doubt so . This is once again an isolated incident , But it's terrorism . Seemingly senseless killings happen a lot but normally ithey are not sensationalised by our media enough. When it is a domestic violence attack, it seems to be forgetten all too quickly as it happens every day .If anyone even thinks about killing someone else they need intervention by a professional. There are plenty of untreated nutters in this village .


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 11:24am
There are no votes in domestic violence Goldey, so not even token outrage. Ignored and minimised.

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Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 12:06pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

maxie, in what category do you place men who murder their wives or partners? 13 since October 1st 120 on average per year in Australia. 

Of what religion and nationalities were they?


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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 12:09pm
Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

maxie, in what category do you place men who murder their wives or partners? 13 since October 1st 120 on average per year in Australia. 

Of what religion and nationalities were they?

Does it matter? All domestic violence is abhorrent. 

Not too difficult.Embarrassed


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Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 12:10pm
Originally posted by Redemption Redemption wrote:

Dear Waleed Aly,

Your Muslim brother killed our lifelong family friend, Sisto.

How do you feel about that Waleed???

Waleed is a Muslim ... 

Says - terrible act a mentally ill person

Thinks - the infidel had it coming to him


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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 12:30pm
Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Redemption Redemption wrote:

Dear Waleed Aly,

Your Muslim brother killed our lifelong family friend, Sisto.

How do you feel about that Waleed???

Waleed is a Muslim ... 

Says - terrible act a mentally ill person

Thinks - the infidel had it coming to him

I think  know you are insane


Posted By: Redemption
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 12:52pm
Hows the ABC'S review of the attack, quote

"The gas bottles failed to explode, it was a failed attack".  (really ABC??, tell that to Sisto and his family)

"The public remained calm and were able to film the event".

Okay, for starters ABC, it wasnt a stage musical "event", it was a Terror Attack.
Im disappointed the ABC didnt mention what model smartphone people were using.

Secondly, people werent calm at all.
A friend of ours was 10 metres from the attack, and said dozens of people fled the seen and all had total horror and fear on their faces.

Thirdly, as witnessed from our friend 10 metres away, to quote him, "there were 2 explosions. The bottles did explode, then the car went out of control and the 2nd explosion was even bigger. A feeling like an explosive force went through your body, even at distance, and the sound was deafening"

ABC, again, downplaying the Terror Attack, into a "calm event".

Would the ABC like to mention that the city went into lockdown and the Terror Alert sirens were activated??

Enjoy your Royal Commission hearing ABC, and no doubt potential class action against you from a growing angry public at your disgraceful bias reporting.

RIP Sisto.


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 1:02pm
Originally posted by Redemption Redemption wrote:

Hows the ABC'S review of the attack, quote

"The gas bottles failed to explode, it was a failed attack".  (really ABC??, tell that to Sisto and his family)

"The public remained calm and were able to film the event".

Okay, for starters ABC, it wasnt a stage musical "event", it was a Terror Attack.
Im disappointed the ABC didnt mention what model smartphone people were using.

Secondly, people werent calm at all.
A friend of ours was 10 metres from the attack, and said dozens of people fled the seen and all had total horror and fear on their faces.

Thirdly, as witnessed from our friend 10 metres away, to quote him, "there were 2 explosions. The bottles did explode, then the car went out of control and the 2nd explosion was even bigger. A feeling like an explosive force went through your body, even at distance, and the sound was deafening"

ABC, again, downplaying the Terror Attack, into a "calm event".

Would the ABC like to mention that the city went into lockdown and the Terror Alert sirens were activated??

Enjoy your Royal Commission hearing ABC, and no doubt potential class action against you from a growing angry public at your disgraceful bias reporting.

RIP Sisto.

 
Sure Brooke, we believe you Wink

I guess Sisto was a friend of yours too.


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 1:38pm
Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

What arrant nonsense.
If a catholic is a mass shooter do you blame every individual catholic?

Yes, of course you do, if they are apologists for terrorism that is inflamed by their own religious zealots.

... you know like, Kayser Tradd, The Muslims of Convenience, Waleed Aly and Sam Disasteryari, and the ALP's own "Academic" Counter-Terrorism Specialist, Ann Azza Aly, and virtually any spokesperson for the ALP/Greens Collusion, whose chances of election always rely on pandering to the Anti Semites and Radical Islamic element in Sydney's Western suburbs.


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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 1:43pm
Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Redemption Redemption wrote:

Dear Waleed Aly,

Your Muslim brother killed our lifelong family friend, Sisto.

How do you feel about that Waleed???

Waleed is a Muslim ... 

Says - terrible act a mentally ill person

Thinks - the infidel had it coming to him

I think  know you are insane

You don't understand "the Religion of Peace", do you.

Ask a Palestinian about non-Muslims ... ask ANY Muslim.

Just be wary of TAQIYA when they answer ... Wink


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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 1:44pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

maxie, in what category do you place men who murder their wives or partners? 13 since October 1st 120 on average per year in Australia. 

Of what religion and nationalities were they?

Does it matter? All domestic violence is abhorrent. 

Not too difficult.Embarrassed

It matters if you are genuinely interested in stopping it, rather than using it as an Islamic Terrorism Apologist, the way you do.Embarrassed


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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 1:48pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

maxie, in what category do you place men who murder their wives or partners? 13 since October 1st 120 on average per year in Australia.Ā 


Too Often infidelity , on either side .
Very wrong PT .   My rearing say's = you never hit a woman .


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 1:49pm
Originally posted by Redemption Redemption wrote:

Hows the ABC'S review of the attack, quote

"The gas bottles failed to explode, it was a failed attack".  (really ABC??, tell that to Sisto and his family)

"The public remained calm and were able to film the event".

Okay, for starters ABC, it wasnt a stage musical "event", it was a Terror Attack.
Im disappointed the ABC didnt mention what model smartphone people were using.

Secondly, people werent calm at all.
A friend of ours was 10 metres from the attack, and said dozens of people fled the seen and all had total horror and fear on their faces.

Thirdly, as witnessed from our friend 10 metres away, to quote him, "there were 2 explosions. The bottles did explode, then the car went out of control and the 2nd explosion was even bigger. A feeling like an explosive force went through your body, even at distance, and the sound was deafening"

ABC, again, downplaying the Terror Attack, into a "calm event".

Would the ABC like to mention that the city went into lockdown and the Terror Alert sirens were activated??

Enjoy your Royal Commission hearing ABC, and no doubt potential class action against you from a growing angry public at your disgraceful bias reporting.

RIP Sisto.

You do a better, more accurate and honest job reporting than the ABC!!!

Any mention that the Daniel Andrews introduced "Terror Texts" also went out ... more than an hour AFTER the event ... Dead




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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 2:00pm
The biggest failure is our Mental Health areas.
    They must get these people off the streets.     . This killer , Obviously as mad as it gets , has not been treated and we all know how it ended .
There is NO where to go for the dangerous Psychiatric people. He has been acting out for quite a period , his wife deserted his madness ,    . Parents worried sick .    . He was left isolated ,    This had to happen.
Re open some areas for the likes of him .


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 2:03pm
Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

I think he's just sick of Aly sticking up for the ones doing the wrong thing.  Sometimes everyone get sick of something.  When we step back then find we can see it was one person.  But the ones preaching this rubbish should not be in Australia.  THey are the ones making waves which ripple out to the ones who are most weakened by life.

furious, most of the individuals who have been incited to violence by the Islamic Religion in recent years, have gone overseas to fight for ISIS ... they are all trying to re-enter the country now ... do you think that means that RADICAL ISLAMIC TERROR attacks are going to be a less likely events in Australia as they return, and they continue to hate the Western World, and anyone who is not a Muslim, and their religion demands that they kill infidels? ... is it likely to just be individual attack with knives and motor vehicles? 

We don't seem to see a lot of Radical Catholic/Anglican/Baptist/Episcopalian/Greek Orthodox/Buddhist/Hindu/Jewish/Pentecostal, etc, Terrorism ... 


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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 2:11pm
... and rest assured, the ALP/Greens will just let them flood back in, if they are elected.

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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 2:15pm
Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

The biggest failure is our Mental Health areas.
    They must get these people off the streets.     . This killer , Obviously as mad as it gets , has not been treated and we all know how it ended .
There is NO where to go for the dangerous Psychiatric people. He has been acting out for quite a period , his wife deserted his madness ,    . Parents worried sick .    . He was left isolated ,    This had to happen.
Re open some areas for the likes of him .

I'm in favor of them all receiving the same "treatment" that he has ... there is no arguing the fact, that one bullet applied judiciously when the Radical Islamification first became obvious would have saved at least one life.


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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 2:24pm
Go ScoMo Go!!!Thumbs Up

Prime Minister Scott Morrison says extremist Islam Australiaā€™s ā€˜greatest threatā€™

Scott-morrison-sydney
Mr Morrison speaking in Sydney on Saturday in response to Melbourne CBD terror attack. Photo: AAP

Prime Minister Scott Morrison has declared ā€œradical, violent, extremist Islamā€ the greatest religious extremist threat in Australia in the wake of the Bourke street attack.

Warning Muslim leaders had a special responsibility to call out extremism and alert authorities to radicalised members of their community, Mr Morrison confirmed on Saturday there are 400 men and women who remain the ASIO watchlist.

ā€œBut Iā€™ve got to address the real issue here, Iā€™ve got to call it out ā€“ radical, violent, extremist Islam that opposes our very way of life,ā€ he said.

ā€œI am the first to protect religious freedom in this country, but it also means I must be the first to call out religious extremism.

ā€œBut here in Australia we would be kidding ourselves if we did not call out the fact that the greatest threat of religious extremism, in this country, is the radical and dangerous ideology of extremist Islam.

ā€œThere is a special responsibility on religious leaders to protect their religious communities and to ensure that these dangerous teachings and ideologies do not take root here. They must be proactive, they must be alert and they must call this out, in their communities and more broadly for what it is,ā€ he said.

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2018/11/10/scott-morrison-says-extremist-islam-terror-attack/



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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 2:24pm
Originally posted by Redemption Redemption wrote:

Hows the ABC'S review of the attack, quote

"The gas bottles failed to explode, it was a failed attack".  (really ABC??, tell that to Sisto and his family)

"The public remained calm and were able to film the event".

Okay, for starters ABC, it wasnt a stage musical "event", it was a Terror Attack.
Im disappointed the ABC didnt mention what model smartphone people were using.

Secondly, people werent calm at all.
A friend of ours was 10 metres from the attack, and said dozens of people fled the seen and all had total horror and fear on their faces.

Thirdly, as witnessed from our friend 10 metres away, to quote him, "there were 2 explosions. The bottles did explode, then the car went out of control and the 2nd explosion was even bigger. A feeling like an explosive force went through your body, even at distance, and the sound was deafening"

ABC, again, downplaying the Terror Attack, into a "calm event".

Would the ABC like to mention that the city went into lockdown and the Terror Alert sirens were activated??

Enjoy your Royal Commission hearing ABC, and no doubt potential class action against you from a growing angry public at your disgraceful bias reporting.

RIP Sisto.

I read the gas cylinders did not explode, please fill us in on the cover up Confused


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2018 at 2:30pm
Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

Thatā€™s ridiculous.
If you donā€™t have inquests to determine whether reasonable force was used.
Then every Police shooting is automatically sanctioned.

as with the inquest in Sydney for the nutter in the Lindt siege,itā€™s not just to determine whether the Police had the right to shoot him, itā€™s to determine whether current strategies to contain are fit for purpose.

Thumbs Up


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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!



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