VRC Sprint Classic - Best Sprint Race of the year?
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Topic: VRC Sprint Classic - Best Sprint Race of the year?
Posted By: breeding_above_all
Subject: VRC Sprint Classic - Best Sprint Race of the year?
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2018 at 11:32pm
Posted this in other thread but deserves its own:
BEST SPRINT RACE I have seen in a very long time even better than Everest! Redzel RKW Brave Smash Jungle Cat US Navy Flag Kementari Santa Ana Lane Spirit of Valor In her Time
Brilliant!
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Posted By: Speediskey
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2018 at 11:44pm
What makes it better than the Everest?
It's missing Trapeze Artist who is better than everyone else there bar Redzel maybe, Viddora, Shoals are also better than all the 'new' names on the list besides RKW and maybe Pierata.
Redzel will win easily unless RKW is back to his straight track specialist best.
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Posted By: breeding_above_all
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2018 at 12:19am
I rate RKW ahead of Trapese Artist.. then add in Jungle Cat, Kementari and an in form Spirit of Valor and I rate it overall better
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Posted By: breeding_above_all
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2018 at 12:20am
Posted By: Enabled
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2018 at 12:23am
Posted By: Enabled
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2018 at 12:25am
Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2018 at 7:44am
Field or race? You could make a case for either in terms of field strength but it would be hard to inagine a worse RACE than the Everest- walkathon on a swamp where most horses didn’t handle it. This should be significantly better.
A bit depends on Invincible Star here. If Redzel walks them up like he did in the Everest he’ll be hard to beat, but any pressure and he’s vulnerable imo. One of O’Briens might test him too. BS bauble figure odds again...
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Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2018 at 7:57am
...double...seriously these spell checks are too smart for their own good.
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Posted By: breeding_above_all
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2018 at 11:18pm
Posted By: Speediskey
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 12:06am
Think Redzel will win pretty easily. Can just set his own tempo and finish with the consistent end he has.
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Posted By: Mr Grieves
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 12:12am
Think Santa, Redkirk or Spirit Of Valor will win it. Redzel has been gifted more races than any horse i've seen, reckon one or two of aiden's will serve it up and bring him undone here.
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Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 12:21am
Is there a reason why Spright is $31.
She has run well down the straight. The track usually plays to swoopers on this day down the straight and her last run was a cracker on a track where it was hard to make up ground.
Her last two group 1 runs are better than a $31 chance here!
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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 7:53am
Mr Grieves wrote:
Think Santa, Redkirk or Spirit Of Valor will win it. Redzel has been gifted more races than any horse i've seen, reckon one or two of aiden's will serve it up and bring him undone here.
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If Redzel wins this he will have probably the most impressive sprinting cv ever except for BC, but he's always been kind of underwhelming for me. Maybe it's his margins, maybe it's his opposition, maybe it's just the vibe, but he never excites me.
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Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:01am
He’s a three time G1 winner
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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:05am
JudgeHolden wrote:
He’s a three time G1 winner |
+ two Australian sprint championships
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Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:12am
Australian sprint championships, lol. Is that what the ATC are calling it these days?
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Posted By: Speediskey
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:22am
Mr Grieves wrote:
Think Santa, Redkirk or Spirit Of Valor will win it. Redzel has been gifted more races than any horse i've seen, reckon one or two of aiden's will serve it up and bring him undone here.
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It's a straight track race. Redzel doesn't have to lead, Mcevoy will just let him be comfortable.
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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:23am
JudgeHolden wrote:
Australian sprint championships, lol. Is that what the ATC are calling it these days? |
Call it whatever you want, it's the top sprint race in Australia.
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Posted By: jacko1
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 8:41am
Tlazolteotl wrote:
JudgeHolden wrote:
Australian sprint championships, lol. Is that what the ATC are calling it these days? |
Call it whatever you want, it's the top sprint race in Australia.
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Hard to take this year's edition seriously when most didn't handle the bog.
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Posted By: breeding_above_all
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 11:11am
THE slots are so expensive no one wants to use their horse as the sacrificial lamb to put pressure on Redzel
This race will be a different story.. RKW for me, got on early, has some support now
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Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 11:19am
Unless the track manager destroys the travelator on the grandstand rail, I reckon Spirit of Valour will be winning.
For the sake of the race, he ought to be taking to it with the old vertidrain as we speak.
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Posted By: breeding_above_all
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 11:27am
Red Hare wrote:
Unless the track manager destroys the travelator on the grandstand rail, I reckon Spirit of Valour will be winning.
For the sake of the race, he ought to be taking to it with the old vertidrain as we speak. |
US Navy Flag was rated panels ahead of Valor, it’s interesting his form over here
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Posted By: pnclick
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 1:29pm
Really think US Navy Flag will run a massive race in this.
Ignore the Everest with the wet track, then was working the house down, which warranted the heavy support, before the Manikato. Missed start, then scrubbed along a bit to get a position, before being under a stranglehold in the straight in the Manikato.
Got the right draw, the right track etc.. If ever he is going to perform it is in this race.
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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 3:08pm
I'm getting an urge to back Kementari again so I've asked Matron to take my phone and lock me in my room until 5pm tomorrow.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 3:10pm
This and the TJ are Australia's two premier sprint races.
------------- reductio ad absurdum
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 3:11pm
Tlazolteotl wrote:
I'm getting an urge to back Kementari again so I've asked Matron to take my phone and lock me in my room until 5pm tomorrow.
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His run was outstanding on the goat track.
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Posted By: Sneck
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 3:11pm
djebel wrote:
This and the TJ are Australia's two premier sprint races.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 3:12pm
Nope.
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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 3:54pm
Djebel the Everest is WFA also. It doesn't have the history of the other two but is hotly contested both to get into and to win. Not Redzel's fault he got it wet or got left alone. Saturday will be different but he is a very good sprinter and could still win.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 5:55pm
HYPE.
Hype is the only reason the Everest is in the conversation.
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Posted By: Kingy
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 7:38pm
Very keen to keep backing SANTA ANA LANE, especially at the odds available.
Going to have a saver on IN HER TIME as well as take the fav to beat both of these in an exacta just in case the real REDZEL turns up.
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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 9:07am
But it was goat track form and the Manikato was a much weaker race than this. Kementari may win, the mongrel, but there is no logical reason why he would.
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Posted By: 3blindmice
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 11:13am
Don't like him in this but at this point I'd be pointing the finger at the training and all over the shop prep Tlaz, not the horse. Barriers and tracks haven't helped him though. Still has to show he enjoys Flem straight sprinting and is being asked to do it at WFA against the best available after a very solid program already. Ran a shocker in the Coolmore last year after being asked to back up from the Guineas. Weird.
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Posted By: breeding_above_all
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 11:32am
I have really warmed now to Jungle Cat.. think he’s fantastic odds considering the way he races
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Posted By: Kingy
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 4:28pm
Kingy wrote:
Very keen to keep backing SANTA ANA LANE, especially at the odds available.
Going to have a saver on IN HER TIME as well as take the fav to beat both of these in an exacta just in case the real REDZEL turns up.
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GET IN!
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Posted By: Enabled
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 4:32pm
Kingy wrote:
Kingy wrote:
Very keen to keep backing SANTA ANA LANE, especially at the odds available.Â
Going to have a saver on IN HER TIMEÂ as well as take the fav to beat both of these in an exacta just in case the real REDZEL turns up.
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GET IN! | Awesome
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Posted By: Enabled
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 4:34pm
Posted By: Mr Grieves
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 6:45pm
Speediskey wrote:
Mr Grieves wrote:
Think Santa, Redkirk or Spirit Of Valor will win it. Redzel has been gifted more races than any horse i've seen, reckon one or two of aiden's will serve it up and bring him undone here.
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It's a straight track race. Redzel doesn't have to lead, Mcevoy will just let him be comfortable. |
In this class, he does have to lead.
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Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 7:31pm
Needs a soft lead to show his best, Redzel.
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Posted By: Sneck
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 9:36pm
djebel wrote:
HYPE.
Hype is the only reason the Everest is in the conversation. | NOPE.
Everyone who had a top sprinter aimed their horse at the Everest.
Go take a survey of the top sprinters connections and ask them which race they want to win.
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Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 9:50pm
The Everest is a novelty. A rich novelty, but a novelty nonetheless.
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Posted By: Sneck
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 9:55pm
If all sprinting connections aim at the race it's a bit obtuse to write it off as a novelty.
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Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 10:05pm
i don't think you know what obtuse means.
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Posted By: Sneck
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 10:08pm
Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 10:10pm
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