Caulfield Stakes
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Topic: Caulfield Stakes
Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Subject: Caulfield Stakes
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2018 at 7:23pm
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I've seen Cox Plates with weaker fields than this. ------------- An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought. Simon Cameron |
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Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2018 at 8:33pm
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Certainly the two internationals add value here. However the four year olds add interest and Humidor and Homespun are the locally trained ones with Tosen Basil a hope and Nights Watch a hope on his Dato run. Very intriguing race! ------------- Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise |
Posted By: jacko1
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2018 at 9:48pm
| Unforgotten should get a cozy run and with the decent tempo will be finishing well. Tough race to sort out. |
Posted By: Nick
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2018 at 11:02am
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D'argento and Unforgotten are far too classy! |
Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2018 at 11:11am
They couldn't beat Hartnell in a handicap. Why will they beat the gay deceiver but also second best wfa horse in Australia- Humidor- at wfa? ------------- An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought. Simon Cameron |
Nick wrote:Posted By: Speediskey
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2018 at 11:12am
Because as proven last start and by the many starts he's had at Caulfield, he hates it.
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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2018 at 11:23am
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I don't know- I just have my doubts that the Epsom form is wfa form. Cummings is running Hartnell in a handicap with 59kg rather than this wfa race- what's that about? Does Cummings agree with me? ------------- An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought. Simon Cameron |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2018 at 11:26am
Because a switched on Hartnell is outstanding. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2018 at 11:27am
Cummjngs could be looking at the big handicap mile triple crown. What an achievement that would be for Hartnell. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2018 at 11:44am
He won the Memsie, arguably should have won the Underwood. I’m a bit with Tlaz here. Hartnell was beaten WFA by Nights Watch and Homesman, then gave them all weight in the Epsom and a beating. But it’s the Epsom horses who have been backed. I think the market has decided that Hartnell wound the clock back a couple of years with that Epsom run, or that Unfogotten and D’Argento will be much better at 2000m. Maybe both. Don’t get me wrong, I think Wallers pair are excellent chances, but surprised in the price differential to some of these others. Anyway, the markets usually smarter than me, and should be a cracking race. |
Posted By: SHOVHOG
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2018 at 11:50am
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One of wallers pair will win. 2000m is more in their wheelhouse. Dargento is looking for this distance now and I'd be surprised if one of them didn't win. In fact take it to the bank. ------------- " In gambling the many must lose in order for the few to win" |
Posted By: scamanda
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2018 at 12:04pm
I tend to agree with you. Unless one of those jet setting Godolphin runners produces a big one Waller has this race sown up. Blair House was outstanding in his Australian debut. He's the one I'd be worried about. ------------- I started with nothing and still have most of it left |
Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2018 at 5:42pm
I could never figure out where the Unforgotten boom was coming from. ------------- An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought. Simon Cameron |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2018 at 5:45pm
Perhaps her Oaks win? Maybe her Chelmsford win also? Even her Epsom third?
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Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2018 at 7:05pm
Well I was half right. People will keeping backing our Spring 4yos to beat these internationals/imports. They’re simply too good. Just shows what an anomaly Winx is. |
Posted By: the miz
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2018 at 11:30pm
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That's why CJW preachers patience. There is always an exception but usually give them time. Saying that Youngstar wins the CC ------------- the miz v'landwick the king of spin |
Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2018 at 1:03am
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Not quite my point, miz. None of Waller's have gone on to do to much at middle distance/staying events at the pointy end of the Spring carnival, except Winx. Who's his second best horse, in the time he's been training here? Our horses are complete spuds. Youngstar looks promising but there's no way in the world she could have done what Yucatan did today. It'll happen from time to time that one of our own horses will win a big staying event over here. I think that's the best we can hope for. Call it a fluke.
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