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Topic: NFL 2018
Posted By: Afros
Subject: NFL 2018
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2018 at 8:38am
Surprised there is no thread for this yet?

Week 1 has just finished yesterday, some surprises, the Jets smashing the Lions and the Browns not losing! Some things as per usual, Patriots winning and Rodgers orchestrating another comeback win.



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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2018 at 9:33am
I notice the Rams are second favourite to win Super Bowl. Here are some of the reasons why.



http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000938337/article/five-reasons-why-the-rams-will-make-the-2018-nfl-playoffs" rel="nofollow - http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000938337/article/five-reasons-why-the-rams-will-make-the-2018-nfl-playoffs


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Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2018 at 7:14pm
I nearly dropped from a flying pig, when I saw Cleveland had drawn with Pittsburgh.

It looks like a lot of teams are going to be working their way into the season, which is what I gained from the exhibition games, no stand out.

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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2018 at 7:52pm
The rookie QB for the Giants had a dream introduction . Pressure on now

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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2018 at 8:49pm

The https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/DAL/dallas-cowboys" rel="nofollow - Dallas Cowboys are the https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/cowboys-are-the-most-valuable-sports-team-in-the-world-lead-12-nfl-teams-in-top-25/" rel="nofollow - most valuable sports franchise in the world and it's not even close. 

With an estimated value of $4.8 billion, the Cowboys are https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/cowboys-are-the-most-valuable-sports-team-in-the-world-lead-12-nfl-teams-in-top-25/" rel="nofollow - worth nearly $700 million more than the world's next valuable sports franchise, Manchester United, a team worth an estimated $4.12 billion. Although Jerry Jones has turned the Cowboys into a profit-making factory, that almost didn't happen, and that's because Jones almost didn't own the team.

Five years before Jones purchased the Cowboys in 1989, another high profile businessman had the chance the buy the the team and that person was none other than President Donald Trump. Back in 1984, the founding owner of the Cowboys, Clint Murchison Jr., was looking to sell the team and Trump appeared to show some interest. However, instead of buying the Cowboys for $50 million -- No that's not a typo, $50 million is the number -- Trump decided to purchase the New Jersey Generals of the USFL.

...

After passing on the Cowboys, Trump never seriously considered becoming an NFL owner again until 2014, when he https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/donald-trump-wants-to-buy-bills-would-keep-team-in-buffalo/" rel="nofollow - made a bid to buy the Bills . However that bid ended up falling short and the Bills were eventually sold to Terry and Kim Pegula. 

www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/donald-trump-once-had-the-chance-to-buy-the-cowboys-at-a-dirt-cheap-price/






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Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2018 at 10:29pm
Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

The rookie QB for the Giants had a dream introduction . Pressure on now


I'm guessing you mean the Jets? Eli Manning is far from a rookie! Although the Giants do have a rookie Running Back who is highly rated...


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2018 at 10:34pm
Originally posted by VOYAGER VOYAGER wrote:

I nearly dropped from a flying pig, when I saw Cleveland had drawn with Pittsburgh.

It looks like a lot of teams are going to be working their way into the season, which is what I gained from the exhibition games, no stand out.


The Browns have had a lot of high draft picks the last couple of drafts (last years #1 Myles Garrett and and this years #5 pick Denzel Ward both got good reports vs Pittsburgh) and selected some highly rated talent, they could surprise a few this season if these young guys develop as expected. Grabbing Tyrod Taylor as a bridge QB to give them time with Baker Mayfield was also a shrewd move as TT doesn't turn the ball over much so will be a safe pair of hands until they think BM is ready.


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2018 at 4:13pm
Always a pleasure for me watching the Patriots lose. Gee it was strange seeing the beardy bloke, Patricia Confused- on the sideline plotting to beat them.


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Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2018 at 9:58pm
Afros I actually watched the second half of the Browns win, and the rookie quarterback showed coolness and composure to create the comeback.

It was one of the best debut efforts I have seen in the NFL for a while.

So that is a draw, a close defeat and a win for the Browns from three games. That has to be their best start for a number of seasons.

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Posted By: ExceedAndExcel
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2018 at 10:01pm
Playing a UBET promo here - money back if your team leads at the end of any qtr and loses. Use multiple accounts to back both teams. This event happens often enough to be profitable.


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2018 at 10:08pm
Agreed it is always enjoyable seeing the Pats get dusted! Also good seeing the Browns showing some promise, I'd tap the brakes on a playoff berth but they could end up being a 6 or 7 win team.

The Rams are looking the goods so far, while the AFC has a potentially game shifting match up next week, Dolphins @ Patriots, if the Fins can grab a win there they'll be 3 wins clear of the Pats... fingers crossed!


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2018 at 10:35am
I've always been astonished that anyone goes to the stadium to watch sport and people are gradually catching up to me. Even if you're in a corporate box on the half way line it's rubbish compared to tv.Big smile


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Posted By: ExceedAndExcel
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2018 at 4:11pm
Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Playing a UBET promo here - money back if your team leads at the end of any qtr and loses. Use multiple accounts to back both teams. This event happens often enough to be profitable.



This occurred in 5 out of the 16 games this week (although for some reason I didn’t play the Thurs night game ).

Only working 2 accounts here currently so not as big a profit as I’d like but still handy. Played 13 of the games betting both teams to return the same amount. Lost $48.70 however 4 money back games returned an additional $132 for a profit of $83.30


Posted By: ExceedAndExcel
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2018 at 3:25pm
Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Playing a UBET promo here - money back if your team leads at the end of any qtr and loses. Use multiple accounts to back both teams. This event happens often enough to be profitable.



This occurred in 5 out of the 16 games this week (although for some reason I didn’t play the Thurs night game ).

Only working 2 accounts here currently so not as big a profit as I’d like but still handy. Played 13 of the games betting both teams to return the same amount. Lost $48.70 however 4 money back games returned an additional $132 for a profit of $83.30



Week 4 down. Played 13 of the games and had 7 resulted in cashback.

Total bets of $1,049 which returned $1,002 plus $231 cashback = $184 profit


Posted By: ExceedAndExcel
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2018 at 3:29pm
Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Playing a UBET promo here - money back if your team leads at the end of any qtr and loses. Use multiple accounts to back both teams. This event happens often enough to be profitable.



This occurred in 5 out of the 16 games this week (although for some reason I didn’t play the Thurs night game ).

Only working 2 accounts here currently so not as big a profit as I’d like but still handy. Played 13 of the games betting both teams to return the same amount. Lost $48.70 however 4 money back games returned an additional $132 for a profit of $83.30



Week 4 down. Played 13 of the games and had 7 resulted in cashback.

Total bets of $1,049 which returned $1,002 plus $231 cashback = $184 profit




Week 5. Promo was changed up - lead any time in 4th qtr & lose = money back. Will still be profitable.

Played 13 games and it occurred 3 times. Lost $46 but got $94 cash back so profit of $48


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2018 at 4:26pm
Rams going well.

I'm looking forward to seeing the KC QB next week against old man Brady. He is supposed to be hot stuff.


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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2018 at 6:12pm
Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Rams going well.

I'm looking forward to seeing the KC QB next week against old man Brady. He is supposed to be hot stuff.


Good game- bad result. Mahomes will be lots harder to beat next time.


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Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2018 at 9:05pm
Pats were 1-2 a few weeks ago and looking like they could have trouble, now their 4-2 and odds on to be AFC #1 seed again, they just find a way. Jacksonville beat them a few weeks ago and have since dropped games against the Titans and now the Cowboys, its like the other AFC teams take The Autumn Suns owners idea and don't want to end the Patriots dynasty.


Posted By: ExceedAndExcel
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2018 at 4:19pm
Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Playing a UBET promo here - money back if your team leads at the end of any qtr and loses. Use multiple accounts to back both teams. This event happens often enough to be profitable.



This occurred in 5 out of the 16 games this week (although for some reason I didn’t play the Thurs night game ).

Only working 2 accounts here currently so not as big a profit as I’d like but still handy. Played 13 of the games betting both teams to return the same amount. Lost $48.70 however 4 money back games returned an additional $132 for a profit of $83.30



Week 4 down. Played 13 of the games and had 7 resulted in cashback.

Total bets of $1,049 which returned $1,002 plus $231 cashback = $184 profit




Week 5. Promo was changed up - lead any time in 4th qtr & lose = money back. Will still be profitable.

Played 13 games and it occurred 3 times. Lost $46 but got $94 cash back so profit of $48




Continues to be easy money with this promo.

Week 6 & played 11 of 14 games with 3 of them having a team lead in the 4th but lose. Left out 3 where the Favs were so short that it wasn’t really worth bothering with. 2 of these games would have given cash back so missed out on approx $20 profit.

Bet $946 and returned $904 but had $133 cashback for a profit of $91[b/]


Posted By: ExceedAndExcel
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2018 at 4:21pm
Correction: there were 15 games but Panthers v redskins wasn’t open at the time I placed the bets and I forgot to go back later.


Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2018 at 5:05pm
Rogers = Freak

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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2018 at 11:36am
If I was Tomlin I would let New Orleans score from 4 and 8.

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Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2018 at 11:53am
Looks likely the playoffs will have no Ben and no Rodgers, shaping as the new guard QBs vs Brady, Brees and Rivers.


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2018 at 12:00pm
Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

If I was Tomlin I would let New Orleans score from 4 and 8.


Tomlin would have to be worried about his job?


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2018 at 7:48pm
Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

If I was Tomlin I would let New Orleans score from 4 and 8.


I meant 1st and goal from the 8.

It's a very interesting comp this year with many teams performing well but no standout team. Any of of 5 or 6 can win I would say. Unless it's not the evil empire Patriots I will be happy.


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Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2018 at 9:01pm
Patriots will be in the Super Bowl unfortunately, they just know what to do in January. Maybe the dream Brees Brady super bowl will finally happen?


Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2018 at 10:48am
Okay lets go through the play off contenders.

AFC.

New England are in but for mine Brady is on the downhill run. This will be his last chance to win it all. A maybe.

Baltimore ravens. They show good form in some matches, but are to inconsistent for me. No chance, maybe out first week.

Houston Texans. Going okay but they have not shown me enough against the other main contenders to be considered a contender.

Kansas City Chiefs. This team is one of the best offensively, but their defense has been found wanting. They have one of the best head coaches in the sport, but their quarterback is showing signs of being indecisive.

Los Angeles Chargers. This is my pick. They did not start off as good as the Rams and Chiefs, but they are coming good at the right time. They have a good record on the road, although they have had a relatively good draw, their game is a little more consistent than the Chiefs or Rams, and they should get a home match in the first week, that is if they do not win the conference, which gets them to at least the second week of the play offs. Good value in the market at the moment.

Indianapolis Colts. If they make it just making up the numbers.

NFC

Dallas Cowboys. Going alright, but have been advantaged most of the year by being in a division where the teams have been poor overall.

Chicago Bears. Have had a great season. No hope of winning the superbowl, but it looks a weak conference so they could get the conference championship.

New Orleans Saints. Look the leading contenders for the conference. They have been going well, and come into the pointy end of the season in good form. They do rely a bit too much on their defence, which will come back to haunt them if they play one of the top teams from the AFC.

Los Angeles Rams. Have looked sensational all season, until the last two matches. At their best they are a good chance of winning the Superbowl, but their lack of experience in the main section of the season might play against them.

Seattle Seahawks. Have come good late to get to the post season. They do have recent experience in the post season, matches, so they could surprise.

Minnesota Vikings. Making up the numbers if they make it.

Philadelphia Eagles. Defending champs, have had some long term injuries this year, which has affected their season. Have got the ability to go a fair way in the post season, but not win the superbowl.

For me.

AFC

Los Angeles Chargers v New England

NFC

New Orleans v Los Angeles Rams

Superbowl

Los Angeles Chargers v New Orleans.       

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Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2018 at 10:50am
Sorry I meant if the Chargers do not win the division, they will get a home match in the first week of the play offs.

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Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2018 at 12:02pm
Originally posted by VOYAGER VOYAGER wrote:

Sorry I meant if the Chargers do not win the division, they will get a home match in the first week of the play offs.


No they wont. Chargers scenario is simple, they must beat Denver next week in Denver and if Kansas City slip up against Oakland they take the west and #1 seeding otherwise they're #5 seed and will go to either Baltimore or Pittsburgh in wild card week depending on who wins the North.

Houston losing to Philly and Chargers to Ravens were bad slips for them as both probably blew the chance of a week of on wild card week, Chargers probably worse as now they'll have to go on the road 3 weeks in a row to make the super bowl but Houston will now likely go to New England for the divisional round instead of a week off then likely hosting New England. Much harder road.


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2018 at 12:05pm
NFC i think your pretty spot on its looking like the Super Bowl will be Saints vs whoever the AFC throw up, I think it'll be New England because all of the AFC teams are showing flaws and New England are so well coached that they are the most likely to take advantage of the flaws in the other teams. I'd love to see the Bolts do it but their road to the Super Bowl will likely go from Baltimore to KC to New England, thats tough.


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2018 at 12:10pm
I'm sure the NFL would be happy from a marketing point of view with Saints vs Chargers or Patriots, either Brees vs the team who cut him and the guy who replaced him or Brees vs one of 2 QBs of his generation rated higher then himself (and he's already played and beaten Peyton in a super bowl), not sure which team Brees would enjoy winning a Lombardi against more.


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2018 at 8:56am

Don't Kid Yourself: The Patriots Are Going Back to the Super BowlCry



Brad Gagnon


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2812308-dont-kid-yourself-the-patriots-are-going-back-to-the-super-bowl



The 2018 http://bleacherreport.com/new-england-patriots" rel="nofollow - New England Patriots are not special. 

Quarterback http://bleacherreport.com/tom-brady" rel="nofollow - Tom Brady , whose passer rating is only two points above the league average, has lacked consistency and seen his numbers decline over the course of one of the worst statistical seasons of his career. Already without the departed Brandin Cooks and Danny Amendola, Brady has lost receiver Josh Gordon and isn't getting as much as expected out of favorite targets http://bleacherreport.com/rob-gronkowski" rel="nofollow - Rob Gronkowski and Julian Edelman.

And New England's bottom-12 defense, which through 15 weeks ranked below the league median in terms of DVOA (Defense-adjusted Value Over Average) at https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef" rel="nofollow - Football Outsiders , has surrendered more than 30 points on five occasions. 

Only two Patriots are headed to the Pro Bowl, and only cornerback Stephon Gilmore has a shot at being an All-Pro. 

Known for gaining steam in the second half of the season, the more-fallible-than-ever Pats are just 3-3 in their last six games, and they haven't won outside of Massachusetts since before Halloween. 

And yet it remains inevitable: New England is going to the Super Bowl for the fourth time in the last five years, the sixth time in the last 12 years and the ninth time in head coach http://bleacherreport.com/bill-belichick" rel="nofollow - Bill Belichick 's 19-year tenure.

That's because this is the perfect year to be less than perfect, and the Patriots still have just enough experience, talent and smarts to take advantage of the fact that the rest of the AFC is composed of sick kittens that are destined to lose control of their bladders the moment they step foot on the FieldTurf at Gillette Stadium. 

The defensively inept AFC West-leading http://bleacherreport.com/kansas-city-chiefs" rel="nofollow - Kansas City Chiefs have lost three of their last five games, surrendering a startling 35.6 points per outing during that span, while the offense has lost an edge without Kareem Hunt (released) and Sammy Watkins (foot injury). Kansas City is doing the opposite of peaking at the right time, and a team that has lost six consecutive home playoff games looks doomed to suffer another early-postseason exit. 

The http://bleacherreport.com/los-angeles-chargers" rel="nofollow - Los Angeles Chargers were the conference's hottest team, but L.A. scored just 10 points in a gross Week 16 home loss to a http://bleacherreport.com/baltimore-ravens" rel="nofollow - Baltimore Ravens squad that was traveling on short rest with a raw rookie quarterback. 

Speaking of that raw rookie quarterback, does anybody envision Lamar Jackson winning a playoff game in Foxborough? 

And after loading up on wins against soft opponents in October and November, the AFC South-leading http://bleacherreport.com/houston-texans" rel="nofollow - Houston Texans have lost two of their last three games and allowed the Pats to leapfrog them into the No. 2 seed in that conference. Now, the Patriots merely need to beat the http://bleacherreport.com/new-york-jets" rel="nofollow - New York Jets at home on Sunday to skip Wild Card Weekend. 

And that's huge, because blocking the Pats from a first-round bye is the key ingredient in the recipe for a non-New England Super Bowl. Under Belichick, the Pats have gone to the Super Bowl in eight of the 12 seasons in which they had a bye. But they're 0-of-3 at getting past the AFC Championship Game without a bye.

A New England win over the Jets and a Chiefs loss to the http://bleacherreport.com/oakland-raiders" rel="nofollow - Oakland Raiders would guarantee the Pats home-field advantage throughout the AFC playoffs. But again, that might happen regardless because the Chiefs are no lock with a home-field edge in January.

Maybe a dark horse like the http://bleacherreport.com/indianapolis-colts" rel="nofollow - Indianapolis Colts or http://bleacherreport.com/tennessee-titans" rel="nofollow - Tennessee Titans will emerge with an improbable playoff run, but the Titans have been ravaged by injuries and Indy has stumbled this month against inferior opponents Jacksonville and the http://bleacherreport.com/new-york-giants" rel="nofollow - Giants . Only one of those AFC South rivals will make the playoffs, and that team will be the No. 6 seed unless the http://bleacherreport.com/jacksonville-jaguars" rel="nofollow - Jaguars upset the Texans on Sunday. Regardless, they'd have to travel to New England, as would the allergic-to-Foxborough http://bleacherreport.com/pittsburgh-steelers" rel="nofollow - Pittsburgh Steelers if they were to overcome long odds and sneak in as the AFC North winner. 

This Patriots team would be in trouble if it were to face the 2017 Jaguars or 2017 Steelers on the road in January, and they'd be screwed against a wide range of previous editions of the Steelers, http://bleacherreport.com/denver-broncos" rel="nofollow - Denver Broncos or Colts. 

But those teams don't exist in this AFC field. 

And you just know the Patriots will find a way, because that's what they do. Brady and the out-of-sync passing game was saved by a rejuvenated running game that had 273 yards in Sunday's victory over the http://bleacherreport.com/buffalo-bills" rel="nofollow - Buffalo Bills . And while the full-season numbers aren't great, the defense has surrendered 17 or fewer points in four of New England's last five games.

They aren't particularly strong in one spot, but there also aren't many glaring weaknesses on the New England roster. And they're healthier than most of their competition.

If Brady gets hot, a Super Bowl run will likely be a cinch. If he doesn't, that running game or defense could carry them. 

The Patriots are the best-coached team in football, and they've been here and done this. They've lost just three of their 22 home playoff games this century. Belichick and Brady intimidate opponents there, converting them to the worst versions of themselves. 

It'll happen again. Count on it. Cry




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Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2018 at 9:50am
Unfortunately this is true.


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2019 at 1:41pm
Playoffs start Sunday morning our time.

Saturday
Colts @ Texans
Seahawks @ Cowboys

Sunday
Eagles @ Bears
Chargers @ Ravens

Chiefs and Saints 1st seeds, Patriots and Rams 2nd seeds.

Texans should take care of business at home vs their divisional rivals, Deshaun Watson has been quietly good down the stretch, JJ Watt will be primed for a big game I suspect.

I like Seattle to get the better of Dallas, looks an even match up so I favor the experience of Carroll and Wilson in the crunch against Prescott and Garrett.

Eagles and Bears could be a good game, the Bears have a stout defense however the Eagles are champs and are obviously keen to defend their crown, the Bears in a close one but it wouldn't surprise me if the Eagles won it.

The last game I feel for the bolts, their reward for a 12-4 season and missing #1 seeding is a trip to a side who beat them at their own house 2 weeks ago, I'd love to see Phillip Rivers script a post season run but unfortunately I think a good 2018 ends here.

That would mean Texans @ Patriots and Ravens @ Chiefs, Bears @ Rams and Seahawks @ Saints in the divisional round.


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2019 at 10:17am
Another example of my pet peeve about NFL coaches. Texans down 21-0. 4th & 1, 13 yards out from the Colts line 1.24 on the clock in the half . So naturally they go for the score on a 13 yd throw instead of going for the much simpler 1 yd and run the clock down.. Even if they score - they didn't - they are giving the Colts 1.20 to score on them.

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Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2019 at 10:21am
Probably a case of coaches trying to double bluff each other, D expecting the run so the O go the pass, terrible pass attempt by Watson if he hits the reciever they get the TD.


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2019 at 11:40am
Colts win in Houston and book a date in Kansas City next week. Deshaun Watsons accuracy has to be a worry for the Texans going forward? Missed a few passes that a top QB should make in his sleep today.


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2019 at 12:01pm
I'd rather have a QB who is great at passing than one who is great at running.


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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.

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Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2019 at 1:56pm
Exactly, history shows you can find productive RBs at all levels of the draft, look at Phillip Lindsay of Denver this season for example wheras majority of top 10 QBs are 1st or 2nd round picks, Tom Brady is the only exception over the last close to 2 decades of QBs outside the first 3 rounds to win a Super Bowl or NFL MVP.


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2019 at 3:18pm
Unfortunately it looks like we've got the most boring team left advancing here, I wish they'd put either of tomorrows games in this slot, would have been far more entertaining.


Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2019 at 6:24pm
Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Another example of my pet peeve about NFL coaches. Texans down 21-0. 4th & 1, 13 yards out from the Colts line 1.24 on the clock in the half . So naturally they go for the score on a 13 yd throw instead of going for the much simpler 1 yd and run the clock down.. Even if they score - they didn't - they are giving the Colts 1.20 to score on them.
They needed to score twice to win

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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2019 at 6:28pm
Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Another example of my pet peeve about NFL coaches. Texans down 21-0. 4th & 1, 13 yards out from the Colts line 1.24 on the clock in the half . So naturally they go for the score on a 13 yd throw instead of going for the much simpler 1 yd and run the clock down.. Even if they score - they didn't - they are giving the Colts 1.20 to score on them.
They needed to score twice to win
Ok apologies - end 1st half. Yes I agree that was an odd play choice. Houston were terrible in that game. 2 critical 3rd down penalties in first quarter critical.

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Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2019 at 6:33pm
Deshaun Watson was the main reason Houston lost that for mine, his accuracy was terrible.


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2019 at 6:43pm
Janikowski was crocked when I saw him last week and not surprisingly he broke down on his first field goal attempt. Seems dumb to me but they only have one placekicker on a roster so I don't know what the smart move would have been.


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An honest politician is one who when he is bought will stay bought.

Simon Cameron



Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2019 at 6:46pm
Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Another example of my pet peeve about NFL coaches. Texans down 21-0. 4th & 1, 13 yards out from the Colts line 1.24 on the clock in the half . So naturally they go for the score on a 13 yd throw instead of going for the much simpler 1 yd and run the clock down.. Even if they score - they didn't - they are giving the Colts 1.20 to score on them.
They needed to score twice to win


They needed to score 3 times to win at that time but that's not the point. If you can eliminate the possibility of the other side scoring by running down the clock, run down the clock.


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Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2019 at 9:02pm
Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Janikowski was crocked when I saw him last week and not surprisingly he broke down on his first field goal attempt. Seems dumb to me but they only have one placekicker on a roster so I don't know what the smart move would have been.


No chance they carry an extra kicker over any other position on game day, maybe on the practice squad but not 2 on game day.


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2019 at 8:27am
Chargers advance after beating the Ravens, so the AFC divisional round wil be Chargers @ Patriots and Colts @ Chiefs, given how my game picks have gone the Eagles muust be morals against the bears


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2019 at 11:52am
Hooo- nailbiter.Sick

It's a weird situation at Philly- their backup quarterback can't stop winning.



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Posted By: Brudder_A
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2019 at 12:17pm
Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Hooo- nailbiter.Sick

It's a weird situation at Philly- their backup quarterback can't stop winning.



More like the Bears field kicker hitting the upright far too many times this season....





Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 7:24am
Divisional round starts this morning.

Colts @ Chiefs
Cowboys @ Rams
Chargers @ Patriots
Eagles @ Saints

I fancy the Chiefs to get it done in KC, the Rams should be able to handle the Cowboys at home, as much as I'd like to say it I just don't think the Chargers can beat the Patriots in Foxboro in January and I think the Saints will get home although I have a feeling the Eagles could pull a bit of a surprise.


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 10:00am
17 first downs to none.

Oh they finally get one.

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Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 10:26am
The colts have now allowed KC to convert on 4 4th downs, admittedly in short yardage situations but surely the defense know they'll run it and can set up accordingly, these are the moments Indy need to win if they're gunna win this thing.


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 10:27am
Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

The colts have now allowed KC to convert on 3 4th downs, admittedly in short yardage situations but surely the defense know they'll run it and can set up accordingly, these are the moments Indy need to win if they're gunna win this thing.


Edit button would be handy Mayor.


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 10:37am
Colts are going to lose by 50. They are awful.

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Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 11:37am
Indy down by 3 scores with a little over 2 and a quarter minutes left and no timeouts, the Chiefs are moving on.


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 3:44pm
So the Rams are through after beating the Cowboys, Championship Sunday will be Patriots/Chargers @ Chiefs and either Eagles @ Rams or Rams @ Saints.


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 6:36pm
Am stuffed how they arrive at some of these quarterback ratings.  Maybe it's totally statistically based, which I can understand but doesn't necessarily rate clutch plays and pivotal brilliance during the course of a game.

Would appreciate advice from all those who know rather more than me.

 


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 7:17pm
As far as I'm aware it's purely a metrics thing, clutch isn't taken into it, I agree with you but, a 75 yard drive to open the game isn't as clutch as one at the end of the fourth to get a TD for the win.


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 7:41pm
Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Am stuffed how they arrive at some of these quarterback ratings.  Maybe it's totally statistically based, which I can understand but doesn't necessarily rate clutch plays and pivotal brilliance during the course of a game.

Would appreciate advice from all those who know rather more than me.

 


It's soooooo simple.


a=\left({{\text{COMP}} \over {\text{ATT}}}-.3\right)\times 5

b = ( YDS ATT 3 ) × .25 {\displaystyle b=\left({{\text{YDS}} \over {\text{ATT}}}-3\right)\times .25} b=\left({{\text{YDS}} \over {\text{ATT}}}-3\right)\times .25

c = ( TD ATT ) × 20 {\displaystyle c=\left({{\text{TD}} \over {\text{ATT}}}\right)\times 20} c=\left({{\text{TD}} \over {\text{ATT}}}\right)\times 20

d = 2.375 ( INT ATT × 25 ) {\displaystyle d=2.375-\left({{\text{INT}} \over {\text{ATT}}}\times 25\right)} d=2.375-\left({{\text{INT}} \over {\text{ATT}}}\times 25\right)

where

ATT = Number of passing attempts
COMP = Number of completions
YDS = Passing yards
TD = Touchdown passes
INT = Interceptions

If the result of any calculation is greater than 2.375, it is set to 2.375. If the result is a negative number, it is set to zero.

Then, the above calculations are used to complete the passer rating:

Passer Rating = ( ( a + b + c + d ) 6 ) × 100 {\displaystyle {\text{Passer Rating}}=\left({(a+b+c+d) \over 6}\right)\times 100} {\displaystyle {\text{Passer Rating}}=\left({(a+b+c+d) \over 6}\right)\times 100}


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passer_rating


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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 7:42pm
Agh- why didn't that work? Anyway, the formula is in the link.


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Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 8:16pm
I wonder how 158.3 became the top rating? I've always wondered why it isn't a round number, say 100.


Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 9:14pm
That’s nothing compared to some of the baseball sabermetrics. The Yanks love their stats. Dip you toe into some of websites dealing with this stuff- who doesn’t want to know what a player’s WAR and VORP is - and you need a degree in advanced mathematics.

I wonder what they make of Timeform


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 9:35pm
Imagine if T20 cricket ever took off over there what they would do with the stats around that?


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2019 at 6:15am
Shut the gate, the evil empire are playing on championship Sunday again...

The Chargers will have so many regrets about this season, tied best record in the AFC but have thrown up 2 absolute shockers in the last month, one cost them the #1 conference seeding and now this.

May be an argument for seeding according to record rather than giving division winners with inferior records a higher seeding but I doubt they'll ever do that.


Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 2:54pm
I think everyone and their dog who is not a Patriots fan Afros, will be on the Chiefs this weekend.

Great clash between Andy Reid and Bellichek.

The Rams look morals to me against the Saints, but the superbowl winner comes from the match at Arrowhead Field!

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Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 3:11pm
Patriots will win, this is their time of year. I'm tipping an old boys super bowl, Brady vs Brees.


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 3:14pm
Belichick is to smart, he'd already have developed a plan for the Chiefs after they last met and will tweak it this week according to what he's seen from them lately.


Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 5:54pm
Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Belichick is to smart, he'd already have developed a plan for the Chiefs after they last met and will tweak it this week according to what he's seen from them lately.
Patriots only 3rd favourites at the moment. Crazy considering the clinical way they carved the Chargers up

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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 6:19pm
I agree with the stats dudes and the bookies - Saints/ Chiefs Super Bowl.

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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 6:25pm
I'm actually having a bit of the $4.50 on the Rams. Got a lot of time for Goff & I like the way they have now developed a 2 man rushing game. Gurley & Anderson are both quality & offer different strengths.

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Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2019 at 3:19pm
Championship Sunday tomorrow, Pats @ Chiefs and Rams @ Saints.

I think the Saints will win, Brees experience will definitely help. They'll play the Pats in the Super Bowl, I just think Belichick will have been planning for Mahomes since they met in the regular season.


Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2019 at 3:35pm
Hope your wrong Afross. I’m all over Rams. With you on the Patriots

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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2019 at 3:46pm
Reckon Saints are entitled to be favorite, but nothing like 1.60 v 2.35.

And 2.40 would appear an inviting quote for the Patriots compared with 1.58 the Chiefs even given the latter's terrific home record. Agree with the Mahomes comment without disparaging the young bloke.

Should be a great day's viewing irrespective.  Thumbs Up


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2019 at 8:35am
Saints leading by 3 at the half after a couple big gains by Brandon Cooks and Gurley punching the rock in. Good second half coming up!


Posted By: Brudder_A
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2019 at 10:24am
Rams clutch in the end!

Tieing FG to send to overtime.

Super interception in OT.

Record Post Season 57 yd FG to go to SUPA SUPA BOWL!


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2019 at 10:27am
Great win! Never had a lead until the winning field goal, clutch af.


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2019 at 11:54am
Patriots up 14 zip just before half time, c'mon KC!


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2019 at 12:01pm
Bloody hell I just saw the stats, Pats time of possession over 21 minutes to KC 9 minutes, outgained them 245 yards to 32, perhaps New England should be further ahead?


Posted By: Brudder_A
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2019 at 1:17pm
Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Bloody hell I just saw the stats, Pats time of possession over 21 minutes to KC 9 minutes, outgained them 245 yards to 32, perhaps New England should be further ahead?


Well things can turn around real quick....

KC hits the front on "Karma"


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2019 at 1:42pm
Tom has 2 minutes and 3 timeouts to find a TD to win it, this scares me if I'm KC.


Posted By: Brudder_A
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2019 at 2:14pm
Brady was monstrous in OT



Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2019 at 2:17pm
Winning the toss was arguably the difference imo, with both defenses all out and on the rack.


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2019 at 3:01pm
Probably an argument for changing the rule that the team who defend first in OT get a shot back even if the receiving team get a TD, such a cruel way to end a season and given the offense gets so many calls go their way it gives the coin toss to much weight in the result. Mahomes deserves credit for getting the go ahead TD and than the game tieing field goal but I'm sure he'll regret giving Brady so much time to work with there, if rhey had taken it below the 2 minute warning and forced the Pats to burn some timeouts then who knows.


Posted By: Brudder_A
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2019 at 3:18pm
A couple of comments from two great captivating games which will have many talking points.

The LAR-NOS game was marred by some mis calls late in the game which had they been reviewed or properly called would of sent NOSaints to the SBowl.

Which gives a bit of query as to the NFLs credence as the referees are constantly blundering big calls.

The video replays just add time to the games which is just getting out of hand, but with so much riding onthe outcome every play is micro-analyzed now.

The KCC-NEP game was also marred by these video checks in the 4th quarter and just dragged this game on. Sure the NFL and the sponsors loved it.

SBowl LIII from Atlanta will be highly rated given that the NFL has the two teams it wants there for ratings. Repeat of SBowl XXXVI, buot of course Rams were in St. Louis then, when \Brady won his first ring in an upset. Sh*te that was 17 years ago!


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2019 at 3:22pm
Originally posted by Brudder_A Brudder_A wrote:

  A couple of comments from two great captivating games which will have many talking points.   The LAR-NOS game was marred by some mis calls late in the game which had they been reviewed or properly called would of sent NOSaints to the SBowl.  

Agree Brudder.  Two bad calls, the last one absolutely pivotal.


Posted By: Afros
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2019 at 4:44pm
Gotta feel for Drew Brees, that non PI call proved to be the difference and you've got to wonder if thats his last chance to grab a second ring.

Man its getting boring seeing the Patriots there nearly every year, hopefully Brady retires soon.


Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2019 at 7:03pm
Dont think there was a struck match between NO & Rams. Both would have been deserved winners. Think NE were the the better team. Dominated possession & unusual for Brady to come up empty (intercept) 2nd red zone attempt. 
Head says NE - Heart says Rams. Would like to see Gurley get a bit more game time - although Anderson is also doing a great job. Gurley dropped a couple of pivotal passes today. Cant afford to do that against NE 


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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2019 at 8:08am
They've got bloody stupid coaches challenge rules, so that the shocking non-call on the pass interference on Lewis that cost New Orleans a certain win could not be challenged.


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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2019 at 11:44am
When does it start? I want to see Brady get sacked 8 times and throw 5 interceptions.Ouch


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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2019 at 2:02pm
Would like some thoughts on this. Sportsbet have a market on the longest single penaltyof the game - over 15.5 yards or less than 15.5 yards. So as i see it you need a pass interference call. A week ago the price opened at $2.47 for the over. Then into $2.08, then $2.02 & latest $1.98. I got on late & missed the price. i reckon the odds of a penalty interference call is more likely than not across the game - & with the famous non-call in the NO game even more so.What am i missing here ?

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Posted By: waggamick
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2019 at 6:15pm
I want Australian outlets to call it The Super Bowel....a chance to promote the current Bowel Cancer Awareness movement.
Every time I watch NFL I get a bowel movement.


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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2019 at 6:25pm
Originally posted by waggamick waggamick wrote:

I want Australian outlets to call it The Super Bowel....a chance to promote the current Bowel Cancer Awareness movementEvery time I watch NFL I get a bowel movement.

That's a good line or two Mick.  Thumbs Up

However in all honestly, and despite the breaks in play, I'd rather watch NFL than AFL, ARL or NRL any day of the week.


Posted By: waggamick
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2019 at 8:48pm
Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Originally posted by waggamick waggamick wrote:

I want Australian outlets to call it The Super Bowel....a chance to promote the current Bowel Cancer Awareness movementEvery time I watch NFL I get a bowel movement.

That's a good line or two Mick.  Thumbs Up

However in all honestly, and despite the breaks in play, I'd rather watch NFL than AFL, ARL or NRL any day of the week.

yeah...fair enough..to each his own...I'm a big ice hockey fan...and a lot of people really don't like watching it especially on TV......mainly because they can't follow the puck...but it's like any sport...the more you watch the more nuanced you become ans after a while you can predict puck/ball location and probable player movement.
Some games are better live than on TV as well..went to few college and high school American Football games while living in Minnesota for a year...it was good live.


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Date Posted: 04 Feb 2019 at 9:11am


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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2019 at 9:23am
Who the hell is Maroon 5? They sound like a tweeners boy band.


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Posted By: Brudder_A
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2019 at 10:37am
NE make the first mistake...
INT to Rams


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2019 at 10:43am
Don't like what I saw on opening drives. Pat's run much better. Early days of course.

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Posted By: Brudder_A
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2019 at 10:56am
NE - 2 TOs on drive and missed FG

Blah!



Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2019 at 12:01pm
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2019 at 12:49pm
3 points will be more than enough to beat the Rams the way they're playing.

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