Debate - Actuarial
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Topic: Debate - Actuarial
Posted By: djebel
Subject: Debate - Actuarial
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2018 at 2:57pm
DEBATE (AUS) | Bay filly 2015 | |
So You Think Bay 2006 | High Chaparral Bay 1999 | Sadler's Wells Bay 1981 | Northern Dancer Bay 1961 | Nearctic Natalma | 1954 1957 | 14-c 2-d | Fairy Bridge Bay 1975 | Bold Reason Special | 1968 1969 | 19-b 5-h | Kasora Brown 1993 | Darshaan Brown 1981 | Shirley Heights Delsy | 1975 1972 | 1-l 13-c | Kozana Brown 1982 | Kris Koblenza | 1976 1966 | 2-o 1-n | Triassic Bay 1990 | Tights Bay 1981 | Nijinsky Bay 1967 | Northern Dancer Flaming Page | 1961 1959 | 2-d 8-f | Dancealot Bay 1971 | Round Table Music Please | 1954 1963 | 2-f 16-g | Astral Row Brown 1979 | Long Row Brown 1970 | Linacre Front Row | 1960 1965 | 15-a 42> | Pak Bun Bay Bay 1970 | Matinee Idol Philipolo | 1956 1960 | 13-e 13-a | Alisa Free Bay 2001 | Favorite Trick Bay or brown 1995 | Phone Trick Bay 1982 | Clever Trick Bay or brown 1976 | Icecapade Kankakee Miss | 1969 1967 | 8-c 9> | Over the Phone Chestnut 1965 | Finnegan Prattle | 1956 1957 | 9-f 8-h | Evil Elaine Bay 1984 | Medieval Man Chestnut 1974 | Noholme Peaceful Sky | 1956 1963 | 1-u 10-c | Distinctive Elaine Bay 1972 | Distinctive Jackie Dare | 1966 1962 | 9-a 9-e | Blond Rocket Chestnut 1992 | Rory's Jester Chestnut 1982 | Crown Jester Chestnut 1978 | Baguette Anjudy | 1967 1969 | 6-c 13-e | Rory's Rocket Grey 1973 | Roan Rocket Cantadora | 1961 1964 | 13-c 1-m | St Trice Bay 1974 | St Crepe Bay 1964 | St Paddy Crepuscule | 1957 1948 | 14-c 16-d | Interrupted Melody Bay 1968 | Matrice Legal Lady | 1951 1958 | 7-d 1-o |
| Ancestor duplications: | Northern Dancer | 4m,5m x |
ACTUARIAL (AUS) | Bay filly 2015 | |
So You Think Bay 2006 | High Chaparral Bay 1999 | Sadler's Wells Bay 1981 | Northern Dancer Bay 1961 | Nearctic Natalma | 1954 1957 | 14-c 2-d | Fairy Bridge Bay 1975 | Bold Reason Special | 1968 1969 | 19-b 5-h | Kasora Brown 1993 | Darshaan Brown 1981 | Shirley Heights Delsy | 1975 1972 | 1-l 13-c | Kozana Brown 1982 | Kris Koblenza | 1976 1966 | 2-o 1-n | Triassic Bay 1990 | Tights Bay 1981 | Nijinsky Bay 1967 | Northern Dancer Flaming Page | 1961 1959 | 2-d 8-f | Dancealot Bay 1971 | Round Table Music Please | 1954 1963 | 2-f 16-g | Astral Row Brown 1979 | Long Row Brown 1970 | Linacre Front Row | 1960 1965 | 15-a 42> | Pak Bun Bay Bay 1970 | Matinee Idol Philipolo | 1956 1960 | 13-e 13-a | Pentasia Bay or brown 2007 | Pentire Bay 1992 | Be My Guest Chestnut 1974 | Northern Dancer Bay 1961 | Nearctic Natalma | 1954 1957 | 14-c 2-d | What a Treat Bay or brown 1962 | Tudor Minstrel Rare Treat | 1944 1952 | 9-c 8-c | Gull Nook Bay 1983 | Mill Reef Bay 1968 | Never Bend Milan Mill | 1960 1962 | 19-b 22-d | Bempton Bay 1976 | Blakeney Hardiemma | 1966 1969 | 20-c 1-l | Ecstasia Bay 2001 | Singspiel Bay 1992 | In the Wings Bay 1986 | Sadler's Wells High Hawk | 1981 1980 | 5-h 9-e | Glorious Song Bay 1976 | Halo Ballade | 1969 1972 | 2-d 12-c | Titled Bay 1996 | Rainbow Quest Bay 1981 | Blushing Groom I Will Follow | 1974 1975 | 22-d 14-f | Her Ladyship Bay 1991 | Polish Precedent Upper Strata | 1986 1985 | 8-h B3 |
| Ancestor duplications: | Northern Dancer | 4m,5m x 4m | | Sadler's Wells | 3m x 5m |
Both fillies trained by John Hawkes, Both by So You Think both bred to do the complete opposite of each other. One should be a good sprinter, Cerntainly has the owner to be top class and the other should be a middle distance plus type. Both trialled as their pedigrees suggest they should. How long will it take for Hawkes to get Actuarial to her proper trip ? I would expect Debate to debut over either a 1000m or 1100m, perhaps 1200. Actarial should kick off her career soon over 1400m+
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Posted By: ThreeBears
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2018 at 6:17pm
Bid on one from same dam line as Debate at Easter sale. It ended up with A.Cummings so no idea where it is now.
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Posted By: scamanda
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2018 at 8:11pm
The trial before Debate's had one called Symi. Owned by the same guy and ran very well. She went straight into the blackbook. Fastnet Rock - Cats Whisker. Full sister to Catchy.
Debate looked to lose some momentum when she dipped in the final furlong. That can sometimes be a worry injury wise,
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2018 at 4:40pm
scamanda wrote:
The trial before Debate's had one called Symi.Owned by the same guy and ran very well. She went straight into the blackbook. Fastnet Rock - Cats Whisker. Full sister to Catchy.
Debate looked to lose some momentum when she dipped in the final furlong. That can sometimes be a worry injury wise,
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Have not seen race but I have money in account so thankyou 😆
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Posted By: Tontonan
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2018 at 7:47pm
Actuarial is from one of the British half bred families (B3).
When that family was admitted to the studbook in 1969 with mare Lavant it was partly because her daughter Lucasland (x Lucero ) won a July Cup (6f) and a Diadem Stakes (6f), and her son So Blessed (x Princely Gify) had won a July Cup (6f) a King George Sks (5f) a Nunthorpe Sks and a Cornwallis Sks (both 5f).
Admittedly Lavant's grand dam Verdict (x Shogun) had won a Coronation Cup and Actuarial is out of a Pentire mare but there may be more speed in the family than you think.
After all, Pentasia won 8 of her 21 starts at 1100 and 1200m and was beaten at both her starts beyond 1200m.
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Posted By: scamanda
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2018 at 9:20pm
Good to hear djebel. $$$ Maybe not a world beater but a winner all the same.
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Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2018 at 2:43am
I don't care who daddy is as he isn't racing .
BETTER to look who was closest to the winner last start.
NOT who got closed to Mummy.
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Posted By: scamanda
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2018 at 12:44pm
https://www.racenet.com.au/racing-form-guide/gosford-20180814/crowne-plaza-terrigal-3yo-maiden-handica-race-5" rel="nofollow - R5 https://www.racenet.com.au/racing-form-guide/gosford-20180814/crowne-plaza-terrigal-3yo-maiden-handica-race-5" rel="nofollow - Gosford 1200m Maiden, 15:05pm | |
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2018 at 9:08pm
$2.40 just a tad short for me.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2018 at 5:07pm
Debate being vetted.
Currently $2.90 on best tote.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2018 at 5:10pm
Nicish win.
Thread is 2 out of 2 thanks to scamanda.
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Posted By: scamanda
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2018 at 5:10pm
Easy money djebel.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2018 at 5:13pm
| ACTUARIAL3yo Brown Filly D.O.B: 12-Aug-2015 by SO YOU THINK (NZ) from PENTASIA http://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeServices/PedigreeSearch.aspx?horseName=Actuarial&sireName=So+You+Think&damName=Pentasia" rel="nofollow - View Pedigree Report | | | http://www.racingnsw.com.au/find-out-more-plus-viewing-tips-here/" rel="nofollow - If you’re having trouble viewing video form, click here |
Status | Spelling |
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Owner’s Details | Mr G G Briscoe |
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Stewards Embargoes | None on record |
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Emergency Vaccination Record | http://www.studbook.org.au/horse.aspx?hid=1110023&pagetype=VCCN" rel="nofollow - (Click here for more details) |
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Last Gear Change* | 31-Aug-2017, Lugging Bit, First Time |
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Trainer | http://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MzQ1MDAyNTY%3d&trainername=Michael%2c+Wayne+%26+John+Hawkes" rel="nofollow - Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes (Rosehill) |
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Racing Colours | Pale Blue, Black Hooped Sleeves |
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Career | Summary: 0-0:0:0 Prizemoney: $0 Prizemoney incl. Bonus: $0 BOBS Bonus: $0 BOBS Double Up: $0 Other Bonus: $0 1st Up: 0:0-0-0 2nd Up: 0:0-0-0 Firm: 0:0-0-0 Good: 0:0-0-0 Soft: 0:0-0-0 Heavy: 0:0-0-0 Synthetic: 0:0-0-0 Sand/Dirt Fast: 0:0-0-0 Sand/Dirt Wet Fast: 0:0-0-0 |
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Posted By: scamanda
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2018 at 1:39pm
Thought you might be interested djebel.
Actuarial has trialed twice since the spell.And in the weights for wednesday at Warwick Farm, Fillies Maiden R6 1400M.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2018 at 1:47pm
incredibly I was going to up date this. Looking forward to seeing her.
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2018 at 1:54pm
Might well end up with egg on my face, by why would you give a filly with this breeding to the Snowden's?
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2018 at 2:03pm
Second Chance wrote:
Might well end up with egg on my face, by why would you give a filly with this breeding to the Snowden's?
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The Hawkes ?
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2018 at 2:11pm
Hawkes sorry, but same, same.
Don't find a whole lot from that camp being tried over some ground.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2018 at 2:20pm
True.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2018 at 6:12pm
$18 with Ladbrokes.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2018 at 6:18pm
So You Think trifecta.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2019 at 7:29pm
Debate is nominated for both the Oaks and a sprint that is run on the same day 🤔😀🤔😀🤔😀
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2019 at 4:41pm
I see both have left the stable.
One has gone to a far superior trainer if perhaps less ethical whilst the other has been banished to the bush.
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2019 at 4:51pm
Debate = Maher Actuarial = Tash Burleigh
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2019 at 4:53pm
Race 4 - BENCHMARK 58 HANDICAP (1650 METRES) |
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Of $22,000.1st $11,200, 2nd $3,900, 3rd $2,100, 4th $1,100, 5th $720, 6th $540, 7th $500, 8th $500, 9th $500, 10th $500, Equine Welfare Fund $220, Jockey Welfare Fund $220. BenchMark 58, Handicap, Minimum Weight 54kg, Apprentices can claim. BOBS Bonus Available Up To $9625
Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf
Field Limit: 12 + 4 EM |
| Last 10 | Horse | Trainer | Ballot | Weight(kg) | True Weight(kg) | Penalty(kg) | Benchmark |
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1 | x8449x6742 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - TRYING | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=ODAyNDcyMDA%3d&trainername=Norm+Gardner" rel="nofollow - Norm Gardner | 1= | 62 | 62 | | 60 | 2 | 395x175295 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - CUBAN BELLE | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=ODUxNTc2MDA%3d&trainername=Robert+%26+Luke+Price" rel="nofollow - Robert & Luke Price | 1= | 60 | 60 | | 60 | 3 | 56x1404089 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - EVERLY GIRL | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MjI0OTM2ODAwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Melissa+Harrison" rel="nofollow - Melissa Harrison | 1= | 60 | 60 | | 60 | 4 | 021667x120 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - MILLIJULE | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MzEwMTAwMTIwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Natalie+Jarvis" rel="nofollow - Natalie Jarvis | 4 | 58.5 | 58.5 | | 57 | 5 | 3354x88x60 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - MRS WILLY NILLY | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MjY4NjI2MTYwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Richard+%26+Luke+Clarke" rel="nofollow - Richard & Luke Clarke | 5 | 58 | 58 | | 56 | 6 | 22x66551 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - REFIRE | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=NjMyNDEyMDA%3d&trainername=Danny+Williams" rel="nofollow - Danny Williams | 6= | 59 | 59 | | 54 | 7 | 0426640x07 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - WHISPERED PRAYER | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MjkxMDA3MjAwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Matthew+J+Stephens" rel="nofollow - Matthew J Stephens | 6= | 57 | 57 | | 54 | 8 | 85x1 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - ACTUARIAL | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=Mjg3OTAwODAwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Tash+Burleigh" rel="nofollow - Tash Burleigh | 8= | 56.5 | 56.5 | | 53 | 9 | 39213020x2 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - GEORGIAN COURT | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MzEwMTAwMTIwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Natalie+Jarvis" rel="nofollow - Natalie Jarvis | 8= | 56.5 | 56.5 | | 53 | 10 | 8x0765x331 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - O’PRINCESS (NZ) | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MjMzNDIwMDAwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Luke+Pepper" rel="nofollow - Luke Pepper | 8= | 56.5 | 56.5 | | 53 | 11 | 652x535123 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - PAHRULI | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=Nzg5MjcyMDA%3d&trainername=Mick+Smith" rel="nofollow - Mick Smith | 8= | 56.5 | 56.5 | | 53 | 12 | 1438387x61 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - GRASP | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=Njg3MjM2MDA%3d&trainername=Gratz+Vella" rel="nofollow - Gratz Vella | 12= | 58 | 58 | | 52 | 13 | 891347x4 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - SEPULCHRE | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MzYyMDk0MDQwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Joseph+Ible" rel="nofollow - Joseph Ible | 12= | 56 | 56 | | 52 | 14 | 4356350x35 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - OLD MAN’S ANGEL | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MjQ0ODkzMDAwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Theresa+Bateup" rel="nofollow - Theresa Bateup | 14= | 57.5 | 57.5 | | 51 | 15 | 4477x03358 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - TAG AND RELEASE | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=NzIyNDM2MDA%3d&trainername=Joe+Cleary" rel="nofollow - Joe Cleary | 14= | 57.5 | 57.5 | | 51 | 16 | 4274712760 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - BADGE OF GAMENESS | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MjkzOTEyMDgwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Mike+Cattell" rel="nofollow - Mike Cattell | 16 | 57 | 57 | | 50 | 17 | 0115567x50 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - ADMIRE GRATZI | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=Njg3MjM2MDA%3d&trainername=Gratz+Vella" rel="nofollow - Gratz Vella | 17= | 56.5 | 56.5 | | 49 | 18 | 100x06x693 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - SOLAR SHADOW | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MjY4NjI2MTYwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Richard+%26+Luke+Clarke" rel="nofollow - Richard & Luke Clarke | 17= | 54.5 | 54.5 | | 49 | 19 | 34778x6087 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - LORD CHAMBERLAIN (NZ) | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=Njg0NzcyMDA%3d&trainername=Graeme+Shaw" rel="nofollow - Graeme Shaw | 19 | 56 | 56 | | 48 | 20 | 6450959x68 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - MONTEREY MAGIC | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MTczMTg0ODgwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Greg+Stephens" rel="nofollow - Greg Stephens | 20 | 55 | 55 | | 46 | 21 | 28x7654467 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - SHE EXCITES | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=NzMwMjY4MDA%3d&trainername=John+Peiti" rel="nofollow - John Peiti | 21 | 54 | 52.5 | | 45 | 22 | 98486x7254 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - YEPPOON | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=NzE4NDc2MDA%3d&trainername=Jenny+Hoy" rel="nofollow - Jenny Hoy | 22 | 54 | 52.5 | | 41 |
Race 5 - CLASS 2 HANDICAP(SCALED -1.0KG) (1425 METRES) |
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Of $22,000.1st $11,200, 2nd $3,900, 3rd $2,100, 4th $1,100, 5th $720, 6th $540, 7th $500, 8th $500, 9th $500, 10th $500, Equine Welfare Fund $220, Jockey Welfare Fund $220. Class 2, Handicap, Minimum Weight 54kg, Apprentices can claim. BOBS Bonus Available Up To $9625
Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf
Field Limit: 14 + 4 EM |
| Last 10 | Horse | Trainer | Ballot | Weight(kg) | True Weight(kg) | Penalty(kg) | Benchmark |
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1 | 951951x43 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - DRAKE THE PIRATE | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MTczMTg0ODgwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Greg+Stephens" rel="nofollow - Greg Stephens | 1 | 59.5 | 59.5 | | 60 | 2 | 42123x2 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - FUSCA | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MzYyMDk0MDQwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Joseph+Ible" rel="nofollow - Joseph Ible | 2= | 56.5 | 56.5 | | 58 | 3 | 1x3290x532 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - THINK LIKE A FOX | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=NjMyNDEyMDA%3d&trainername=Danny+Williams" rel="nofollow - Danny Williams | 2= | 56.5 | 56.5 | | 58 | 4 | 2241 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - IZZY LOOKING GOOD | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=Mjg2MzAwMDgwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Jamie+Stewart" rel="nofollow - Jamie Stewart | 4= | 58 | 58 | | 57 | 5 | 429x7x3326 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - MAD FOX | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=ODUxNTc2MDA%3d&trainername=Robert+%26+Luke+Price" rel="nofollow - Robert & Luke Price | 4= | 58 | 58 | | 57 | 6 | 14x89x6178 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - SOVIET | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MTY2NDAxODQwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Barbara+Joseph%2c+Paul+%26+Matt+Jones" rel="nofollow - Barbara Joseph, Paul & Matt Jones | 4= | 58 | 58 | | 57 | 7 | 7x31 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - ROSY DAWN | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=ODAyNDcyMDA%3d&trainername=Norm+Gardner" rel="nofollow - Norm Gardner | 7 | 55 | 55 | | 55 | 8 | 22x66551 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - REFIRE | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=NjMyNDEyMDA%3d&trainername=Danny+Williams" rel="nofollow - Danny Williams | 8= | 56.5 | 56.5 | | 54 | 9 | 47x666x286 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - UH OH | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=Njg0NzcyMDA%3d&trainername=Graeme+Shaw" rel="nofollow - Graeme Shaw | 8= | 56.5 | 56.5 | | 54 | 10 | x5653x0323 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - SERIOUS DOUBTS | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MjU3NjkxMjgwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Matthew+Dale" rel="nofollow - Matthew Dale | 8= | 54.5 | 54.5 | | 54 | 11 | 4923133x76 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - STRATUM’S ROSE | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=ODU5MjMyMDA%3d&trainername=Ron+Weston+%26+John+Nisbet" rel="nofollow - Ron Weston & John Nisbet | 8= | 54.5 | 54.5 | | 54 | 12 | 85x1 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - ACTUARIAL | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=Mjg3OTAwODAwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Tash+Burleigh" rel="nofollow - Tash Burleigh | 12= | 54 | 54 | | 53 | 13 | 39213020x2 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - GEORGIAN COURT | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MzEwMTAwMTIwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Natalie+Jarvis" rel="nofollow - Natalie Jarvis | 12= | 54 | 54 | | 53 | 14 | 39525x6464 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - AWAY SHE GOES | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MjMzNDIwMDAwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Luke+Pepper" rel="nofollow - Luke Pepper | 14 | 54 | 53 | | 51 | 15 | 54x82x0145 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - THEATRE TICKETS | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=NzY5ODY4MDA%3d&trainername=Lynda+Bundy" rel="nofollow - Lynda Bundy | 15 | 54.5 | 54.5 | | 50 | 16 | 63474195x7 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - REIGN OVER ME | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MTY2NDAxODQwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Barbara+Joseph%2c+Paul+%26+Matt+Jones" rel="nofollow - Barbara Joseph, Paul & Matt Jones | 16= | 54 | 52 | | 49 | 17 | 100x06x693 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - SOLAR SHADOW | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MjY4NjI2MTYwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Richard+%26+Luke+Clarke" rel="nofollow - Richard & Luke Clarke | 16= | 54 | 52 | | 49 | 18 | 1227212225 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - DEPRECIATION | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MzEwMTAwMTIwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Natalie+Jarvis" rel="nofollow - Natalie Jarvis | 18= | 54 | 52 | | 45 | 19 | 3705x18x68 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - LITTLE TIME GEM | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MjAzOTU3NjAwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Garry+Clarke" rel="nofollow - Garry Clarke | 18= | 54 | 50 | | 45 | 20 | 27x4456008 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - WHISKY’N’DIAMONDS | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MTgzNTMwNjAwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Greg+Backhouse" rel="nofollow - Greg Backhouse | 18= | 54 | 52 | | 45 | 21 | 6987652746 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - CAPTAIN CHARLIE | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MjkxMDA3MjAwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Matthew+J+Stephens" rel="nofollow - Matthew J Stephens | 21 | 54 | 50.5 | | 42 |
Race 6 - CLASS 1 & MAIDEN PLATE (1650 METRES) |
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Of $22,000.1st $11,200, 2nd $3,900, 3rd $2,100, 4th $1,100, 5th $720, 6th $540, 7th $500, 8th $500, 9th $500, 10th $500, Equine Welfare Fund $220, Jockey Welfare Fund $220. Class 1, Set Weights, Apprentices can claim. BOBS Bonus Available Up To $9625
Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf
Field Limit: 12 + 4 EM |
| Last 10 | Horse | Trainer | Ballot | Weight(kg) | True Weight(kg) | Penalty(kg) | Benchmark |
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1 | 85x1 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - ACTUARIAL | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=Mjg3OTAwODAwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Tash+Burleigh" rel="nofollow - Tash Burleigh | 1 | 55.5 | | | 53 | 2 | 0x1783 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - HE’S ELUSIVE | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=NzMyMDI4MDA%3d&trainername=John+Steinmetz" rel="nofollow - John Steinmetz | 2 | 59 | | | 60 | 3 | 691x088 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - WALKINSHAW | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MjkzOTEyMDgwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Mike+Cattell" rel="nofollow - Mike Cattell | 3 | 57.5 | | | 57 | 4 | 465x123 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - IL PROFESSIONALE | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=NzQ0MDg0MDA%3d&trainername=Keith+Dryden" rel="nofollow - Keith Dryden | 4 | 55.5 | | | 55 | 5 | 4923133x76 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - STRATUM’S ROSE | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=ODU5MjMyMDA%3d&trainername=Ron+Weston+%26+John+Nisbet" rel="nofollow - Ron Weston & John Nisbet | 5 | 55.5 | | | 54 | 6 | 891347x4 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - SEPULCHRE | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MzYyMDk0MDQwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Joseph+Ible" rel="nofollow - Joseph Ible | 6 | 57 | | | 52 | 7 | 33 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - NAMARARI | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MzU5OTQzMzIwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Kurt+Goldman" rel="nofollow - Kurt Goldman | 7 | 54 | | | N/A | 8 | 83464624x3 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - ARLINGTON MAGIC | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=NzQ5MjMyMDA%3d&trainername=Kerry+Parker" rel="nofollow - Kerry Parker | 8 | 54.5 | | | N/A | 9 | x155x85243 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - VALLEY OF LIGHT (GB) | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MTU4Mjg1NjAwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Robert+%26+Luke+Price" rel="nofollow - Robert & Luke Price | 9 | 57 | | | 57 | 10 | 68422x7277 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - OPERA TICKETS | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MzgwOTAyMjgwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Thomas+Lyttle" rel="nofollow - Thomas Lyttle | 10 | 56.5 | | | N/A | 11 | x5653x0323 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - SERIOUS DOUBTS | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MjU3NjkxMjgwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Matthew+Dale" rel="nofollow - Matthew Dale | 11 | 57 | | | 54 | 12 | 0x66824x72 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - PINCH LEGEND | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MjgwNzc3MjAwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Daniel+Nickson" rel="nofollow - Daniel Nickson | 12 | 56.5 | | | N/A | 13 | 8x82 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - DEVIL DAN (NZ) | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=Njg0NDY0MDA%3d&trainername=Graeme+Murray" rel="nofollow - Graeme Murray | 13 | 55 | | | N/A | 14 | x7x49734x3 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - THE NOTORIOUS | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MTczMTg0ODgwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Greg+Stephens" rel="nofollow - Greg Stephens | 14 | 55 | | | N/A | 15 | 3x53404x5 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - CLERGYMAN | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MjcwMDgzODgwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Lauren+Davies" rel="nofollow - Lauren Davies | 15 | 55 | | | N/A | 16 | 563x84447 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - DARK ALIBI | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MTY2NDAxODQwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Barbara+Joseph%2c+Paul+%26+Matt+Jones" rel="nofollow - Barbara Joseph, Paul & Matt Jones | 16 | 54 | | | N/A | 17 | 98486x7254 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - YEPPOON | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=NzE4NDc2MDA%3d&trainername=Jenny+Hoy" rel="nofollow - Jenny Hoy | 17 | 59 | | | 41 | 18 | 8x73843 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - BOB’S ANGEL | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MzU0NTk1NTYwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Mark+Gee" rel="nofollow - Mark Gee | 18 | 54 | | | N/A | 19 | 9x08863x5 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - APACHE RUSH | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MTg0NTQ4NzYwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Michael+Gatty" rel="nofollow - Michael Gatty | 19 | 55 | | | N/A | 20 | 702 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - GOODRADIGBEE | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MzU0NTk1NTYwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Mark+Gee" rel="nofollow - Mark Gee | 20 | 55 | | | N/A | 21 | 39525x6464 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - AWAY SHE GOES | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MjMzNDIwMDAwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Luke+Pepper" rel="nofollow - Luke Pepper | 21 | 57 | | | 51 | 22 | 660x756976 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - CHAMPAGNE RUSH | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MTg0NTQ4NzYwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Michael+Gatty" rel="nofollow - Michael Gatty | 22 | 56.5 | | | N/A | 23 | 5x090 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - CASINO TIME | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=Njg3MjM2MDA%3d&trainername=Gratz+Vella" rel="nofollow - Gratz Vella | 23 | 54 | | | N/A | 24 | 50x47 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - RULER OF ALL | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MjMxNjE2MDAwMA%3d%3d&trainername=Aaron+Clarke" rel="nofollow - Aaron Clarke | 24 | 56.5 | | | N/A | 25 | 08x500x707 | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/Weights.aspx?Key=2019Jun28,NSW,Moruya#" rel="nofollow - SEEAROCKET | https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=NjEyOTIwMDA%3d&trainername=Chicka+Pearson" rel="nofollow - Chicka Pearson | 25 | 56.5 | | | N/A |
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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2019 at 5:01pm
Debate just won over 1300 at Hawkesbury.
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Posted By: Discohips23
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2019 at 7:49pm
djebel wrote:
I see both have left the stable.Â
One has gone to a far superior trainer if perhaps less ethical whilst the other has been banished to the bush. | I gather you are talking about Maher getting done for racing a horse for a banned participant in Peter Foster?
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2019 at 4:14am
I do not have the courage to say yes to that query.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2020 at 10:21am
If I was smart I'd be picking up cheapish broodmares from the racetrack as so many have been poorly managed and not remotely reached their potential.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2020 at 10:23am
Debates first mating. I like it.
Pierro (AUS) Bay 2009 | Lonhro Brown 1998 | Octagonal Brown 1992 | Zabeel Bay 1986 | Sir Tristram Lady Giselle | 1971 1982 | 6-e 16-c | Eight Carat Brown 1975 | Pieces of Eight Klairessa | 1963 1969 | 3-o 9-c | Shadea Bay 1988 | Straight Strike Bay or brown 1977 | Mr Prospector Bend Not | 1970 1972 | 13-c 11> | Concia Bay 1978 | First Consul My Tricia | 1970 1974 | 5-f 8> | Miss Right Note Grey 2003 | Daylami Grey 1994 | Doyoun Bay 1985 | Mill Reef Dumka | 1968 1971 | 22-d 21-a | Daltawa Grey 1989 | Miswaki Damana | 1978 1981 | 16-g 9-e | Sky Song Bay 1997 | Sadler's Wells Bay 1981 | Northern Dancer Fairy Bridge | 1961 1975 | 2-d 5-h | Criquette Bay 1990 | Shirley Heights Ghislaine | 1975 1981 | 1-l 1-t | Debate (AUS) Bay or brown 2015 | So You Think Bay 2006 | High Chaparral Bay 1999 | Sadler's Wells Bay 1981 | Northern Dancer Fairy Bridge | 1961 1975 | 2-d 5-h | Kasora Brown 1993 | Darshaan Kozana | 1981 1982 | 13-c 1-n | Triassic Bay 1990 | Tights Bay 1981 | Nijinsky Dancealot | 1967 1971 | 8-f 16-g | Astral Row Brown 1979 | Long Row Pak Bun Bay | 1970 1970 | 42> 13-a | Alisa Free Bay 2001 | Favorite Trick Bay or brown 1995 | Phone Trick Bay 1982 | Clever Trick Over the Phone | 1976 1965 | 9> 8-h | Evil Elaine Bay 1984 | Medieval Man Distinctive Elaine | 1974 1972 | 10-c 9-e | Blond Rocket Chestnut 1992 | Rory's Jester Chestnut 1982 | Crown Jester Rory's Rocket | 1978 1973 | 13-e 1-m | St Trice Bay 1974 | St Crepe Interrupted Melody | 1964 1968 | 16-d 1-o |
| Ancestor duplications: | Sadler's Wells | 4f x 4m |
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