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Topic: German Connection English 2000/1000 Guineas
Posted By: Ticino
Subject: German Connection English 2000/1000 Guineas
Date Posted: 10 May 2018 at 10:03am
Hello,
when I checked the peds of the Winners and placed Horses in the 'Classic English Races' for 3 year olds.
 
I see the Germanbreeding had one more winner! Billesdon Brook (by Champs Elysees-coplow by Manduro) is from the German damline of 'Anna Paola'. This is the Family of Helmet/Epaulette and filly and Sire share the third dam. Billesdon Brook won the race at enormous outsider Odds, the German equivalent was 670:10, i.e. if you punt 10 Euros on her win, you have got 670 euro as payout. Lucky punter, who did it!LOL The racing paper Report pointed out, it were the highest odds in the history of the 1000 Guineas, a race run more than 200 Years.
 
Masar (by New Approach-Khawlah by Cape Cross) 3rd placed in the 2000 Guineas, belongs to
the  German Alveole Family via her most famous descent Allegretta and he is inbred to her 3x4 +
3x4 Ahoonora.
 
regards, Ticino



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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 10 May 2018 at 11:11am
Our 1-o line of Savabeel and Pinot comes from a German import White and Blue breed way back in 1876.  So Australian and New Zealand probably have more to do with the line now than Germany.  But still interesting.  This is a line which can produce anything from a two year old sprint to a Derby or Oaks winner.  


Posted By: Spearmint
Date Posted: 11 May 2018 at 11:01am
Also of interest we have a freshman stallion called National Defense who will stand in Victoria at Sun Stud this year. He also descends from the Anna Paola female line.
He was a Group 1 winner in France and looks an interesting prospect being by Invincible Spirit.

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Posted By: Ticino
Date Posted: 11 May 2018 at 11:43pm
Hello,
unfortunaly I made a mistake.
Masar is bred 3x4 Urban Sea and /or 4x5 Allegretta. Sorry
 
regards, Ticino


Posted By: Ticino
Date Posted: 20 May 2018 at 10:13am
Hello,
ore success for "Germanbreeding" at the Races. 
 

Here is a kind of shortlist:

Indian Blessing (Sepoy-Alpen Glen by Halling)

3rd Dahlia Stakes, from the same Family as 'Billesdon Brook'

Olmedo (Declaration of War-Super Pie by Pivotal)

Winner "Poule d'Essai des Poulains" (French 2000 Guineas)

from Schwarzgold Family (Fam. 16-c), Steinlen was in the U.S. a winner.

 

Broadway (Galileo-Danedrop by Danehill)

3rd Athasi Stakes (England) and a HS of Danedream (Fam. 14, Lady Berry Family)

Give and Take (Cityscape-Grace and Glory by Montjeu)

Winner Musidora Stakes (England) from family of of Fame and Glory, Gonbarda (Fam. 1-i Phalaris) etc.

 regards, Ticino (Still Walking on crutches)




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