Furrion
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Topic: Furrion
Posted By: Shawy38
Subject: Furrion
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2018 at 10:33pm
Look at this one djebel Sorry to advise He’s a gelding
1300m tomorrow at stawell trained by Daz FURRION (GB)
3yo Brown Gelding D.O.B: 13-Feb-2015 by CAMELOT (GB) from ACQUAINTED (GB)
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Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2018 at 5:51pm
Well spotted Shawy! Won at even money favourite today at Stawell.
DKW interview indicated he’s looking forward to getting him out to 2000m
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Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2018 at 5:58pm
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 03 May 2018 at 3:44pm
Gee he is short, but I think this horse is Saturday grade
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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 03 May 2018 at 3:53pm
Just noticed he is nominated for the Queensland Derby
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Posted By: 3blindmice
Date Posted: 03 May 2018 at 3:55pm
Very nice. Puffing heavily as Brad is being interviewed.
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Posted By: Long Row
Date Posted: 03 May 2018 at 3:55pm
Posted By: Sir Gov
Date Posted: 04 May 2018 at 9:55am
Shawy38 wrote:
Gee he is short, but I think this horse is Saturday grade |
How short?
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Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 04 May 2018 at 7:37pm
Heard some talk on ch528 that this horse in ongoing sale to HK, idle talk? anyone know about this?
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Posted By: ready2run
Date Posted: 05 May 2018 at 7:58am
I hope not as I have him at $34 for QLD Derby!
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Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 05 May 2018 at 11:46am
I've had one very brief conversation that I don't even know if it went any further than that so...maybe?
Doesn't exactly need the cash though
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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 05 May 2018 at 12:51pm
Don’t think he would sell him to HK to be honest. He’s been comparing him to Puissance De Lune
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Posted By: Tim Whiffler
Date Posted: 05 May 2018 at 10:47pm
Surely Gerry doesn’t need the coin to send him to HK. Could be a superstar
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Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 06 May 2018 at 12:50am
Furore, not Furrion, my apologies.
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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 12 May 2018 at 6:28pm
Had to work hard, but stablemate is a very good horse. Held off a good one whose headed for the Derby
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Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 15 May 2018 at 12:30am
Victoria's leading trainer also confirmed one of his intended Group 1 Queensland Derby runners has dropped out of contention, with his classy 3YO Furrion heading to the paddock after his second placing in last Saturday's Le Pine Funerals Handicap at Caulfield.
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Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2018 at 11:59pm
Scheduled to resume tomorrow at Geelong in a BM78 over 1412m.
Will be interesting to see where this Spring preparation takes him.
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Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2018 at 6:34pm
Gee, he is a really, really nice horse
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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2018 at 6:34pm
Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2018 at 6:38pm
Shawy38 wrote:
Brained them | Now That is one horse that can win in top group company 1400- 2400 imo, top class.
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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2018 at 6:43pm
Absolutely. Not nominated for the Cups this year, so not sure what they are planning.
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Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2018 at 6:56pm
Owner Gerry Ryan loves the Bendigo Cup, so I imagine that will be on the agenda. Perhaps via a Coongy Hcp.
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2018 at 7:04pm
Lord Hybrow wrote:
Owner Gerry Ryan loves the Jayco (ie Gerry Ryan) Bendigo Cup, so I imagine that will be on the agenda. Perhaps via a Coongy Hcp. |
Spot on Your Lordship
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Posted By: correctweight
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2018 at 4:15pm
IF you are backing this smart horse tomorrow you will be betting if he can get out from 3 or 4 back on the fence in the straight.
If he gets out he wins. I will give it a miss though.
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Posted By: Bonfield
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2018 at 4:32pm
Promising horse but in everyone's blackbook. Hate backing such horses as the bookies dish up poor odds. Faces stiff opposition from Orderofthegarter and stablemate Mr Clarify.
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Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2018 at 7:33pm
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2018 at 7:43pm
He is a very good horse.
I suspect he will have had enough by the time he gets to his proper calling.
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Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2018 at 7:45pm
djebel wrote:
He is a very good horse.
I suspect he will have had enough by the time he gets to his proper calling. | And his proper calling is......what?
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Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2018 at 7:51pm
Bendigo Cup, Queen Elizabeth then save him for the autumn. Sydney Cup
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2018 at 8:33pm
Lord Hybrow wrote:
djebel wrote:
He is a very good horse.
I suspect he will have had enough by the time he gets to his proper calling. | And his proper calling is......what? |
I would not have ruled out this years Cups.
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Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2018 at 9:03pm
Looks to be on the Puissance De Lune trail this spring, a light autumn and back for big races next year.
This is a good guide for this owner, as to how good they think the horse is, because the connections obviously feel he can carry the extra weight next year, by winning the Bendigo Cup and Queen Elizabeth this spring.
Has done everything right so far!
------------- Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2018 at 2:36pm
It is a monumental shame he is a gelding.
FURRION (GB) | Brown gelding 2015 | |
Camelot Bay or brown 2009 | Montjeu Bay 1996 | Sadler's Wells Bay 1981 | Northern Dancer Bay 1961 | Nearctic Natalma | 1954 1957 | 14-c 2-d | Fairy Bridge Bay 1975 | Bold Reason Special | 1968 1969 | 19-b 5-h | Floripedes Bay 1985 | Top Ville Bay 1976 | High Top Sega Ville | 1969 1968 | 11-a 8-i | Toute Cy Bay 1979 | Tennyson Adele Toumignon | 1970 1971 | 1-t 1-u | Tarfah Bay 2001 | Kingmambo Bay 1990 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Miesque Bay 1984 | Nureyev Pasadoble | 1977 1979 | 5-h 20> | Fickle Bay 1996 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Razyana | 1977 1981 | 7-a 2-d | Fade Bay 1988 | Persepolis One Over Parr | 1979 1972 | 4-n 4-o | Acquainted Bay 2007 | Shamardal Bay 2002 | Giant's Causeway Chestnut 1997 | Storm Cat Bay or brown 1983 | Storm Bird Terlingua | 1978 1976 | 4-j 8-c | Mariah's Storm Bay 1991 | Rahy Immense | 1985 1979 | 12-c 11> | Helsinki Bay 1993 | Machiavellian Bay or brown 1987 | Mr Prospector Coup de Folie | 1970 1982 | 13-c 2-d | Helen Street Bay 1982 | Troy Waterway | 1976 1976 | 1-b 1-l | Love Everlasting Bay 1998 | Pursuit of Love Bay 1989 | Groom Dancer Bay 1984 | Blushing Groom Featherhill | 1974 1978 | 22-d 14> | Dance Quest Bay 1981 | Green Dancer Polyponder | 1972 1974 | 16-c 1-l | In Perpetuity Bay 1982 | Great Nephew Bay 1963 | Honeyway Sybil's Niece | 1941 1951 | 9-h 14-c | Hardiemma Bay 1969 | Hardicanute Grand Cross | 1962 1952 | 3-j 1-l |
| Ancestor duplications: | Mr Prospector | 4m x 5m |
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Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2018 at 2:51pm
Went from a 78 rating to 95 yesterday
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2018 at 2:58pm
Magnolian Khan wrote:
Went from a 78 rating to 95 yesterday |
I just watched every one of his races and he has perfect racing manners and tip top ability. He is going to race himself into a very high rating.
They have seriously missed the boat by not having the Caulfield Cup on the radar.
He wins the Bendigo Cup and the Queen Elizabeth or what ever the final spring target is and he will be on 105+ when Summer comes along.
Are they also going to skip next autumn to save themselves for next spring ?
Lucky For All is another that is not entered for any of the Cups.
Our trainers are far too conservative with our staying prospects.
Rekindling was having his 10th start when winning the Cup. Sure he has not been seen since but at least he has a Cup on the board.
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2018 at 4:03pm
He's still only an 'actual' 3yo I believe djebel, there's no need to gut him yet against older horses. Allow him to furnish & mature & I'm sure he'll cope well with any increased weights.
------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2018 at 4:05pm
Gay3 wrote:
He's still only an 'actual' 3yo I believe djebel, there's no need to gut him yet against older horses. Allow him to furnish & mature & I'm sure he'll cope well with any increased weights.
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He is the same age Rekindling was.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2018 at 4:08pm
djebel wrote:
Gay3 wrote:
He's still only an 'actual' 3yo I believe djebel, there's no need to gut him yet against older horses. Allow him to furnish & mature & I'm sure he'll cope well with any increased weights.
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He is the same age Rekindling was.
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In fact he is a month older than what Rekindling was.
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2018 at 6:21pm
You'd know as well as any they all mature at different rates & shouldn't be forced.
------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2018 at 6:27pm
I agree should not be forced but he races in perfect formation doing everything right.
I think they are wasting a season for no good reason.
We all know a week is a long time in racing. Anything could happen in the next 13 and half months.
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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2018 at 12:33pm
Should be winning again today. Clearly the best horse in the race
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Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2018 at 1:13pm
Agree.
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Posted By: SHOVHOG
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2018 at 6:55pm
Barrier one again. I can see it being sick bag material. If gets the slightest bit held up and best of days has got a full head of steam it's all over.
------------- " In gambling the many must lose in order for the few to win"
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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2018 at 7:04pm
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2018 at 7:10pm
Had every right to lay down after copping a hip and shoulder on both sides but he just kept fighting.
Win of the day
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Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2018 at 9:15pm
Looked to be stepping short after the race, hope he's ok.
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Posted By: SHOVHOG
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2018 at 10:11pm
It was a great win and was holding the second horse on the line. Snagged the tri a few times with the roughy running third so can't complain.
------------- " In gambling the many must lose in order for the few to win"
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Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2018 at 11:59am
Paid up for the Cranbourne Cup on Sunday
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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2018 at 5:31pm
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2018 at 5:38pm
Callow bowled him over. Surely a protest?
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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2018 at 5:40pm
Just watching the replay, very inconclusive. Don’t know what to make of it
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2018 at 5:53pm
That is twice he has failed at 2000m.
I suspect he either does not stay or he is sick of racing by the time he gets to 2000m.
I'd freshen him up and nominate him for the Kennedy Mile. If he does not get a run so be it.
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Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2018 at 9:27am
Shawy38 wrote:
Callow bowled him over. Surely a protest? |
I wish, I was on Sully....big tiime
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Posted By: Bonfield
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2018 at 11:11pm
Ran okay but a little below his best. Either doesn't quite run 2000m or trained off.
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Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2018 at 11:38pm
djebel wrote:
That is twice he has failed at 2000m.
I suspect he either does not stay or he is sick of racing by the time he gets to 2000m.
I'd freshen him up and nominate him for the Kennedy Mile. If he does not get a run so be it.
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Agree - may have reached his level for now too. Leave it to the trainer to make that decision, he seems to get it right from time to time.
If not, maybe a bit longer in the paddock, and have a crack at the Villiers - lots of fun to be had with a 4 yo gelding if it turns out he's adept at the Randwick Mile.
Whichever way they go, they were patient till now, don't want to be too greedy.
------------- In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2018 at 1:26pm
They are going to push on to the Bendigo Cup. Out in trip and a bigger track, seem to think that will be to his liking. Would prefer he was to draw out a little, barrier 1 does not suit his style.
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Posted By: Tim Whiffler
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2018 at 1:37pm
Shawy38 wrote:
They are going to push on to the Bendigo Cup. Out in trip and a bigger track, seem to think that will be to his liking. Would prefer he was to draw out a little, barrier 1 does not suit his style. | Agree. Weiry’s horses are mostly trained to settle and run on. He seemed to race too keen at Cranbourne, leaving less in the tank at the business end. The Bendigo Cup has always been his Grand Final. We will find out if he stays then!
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Posted By: Xavier
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2019 at 1:42pm
Ran okay. Did enough , wants further
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Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2019 at 7:08pm
Watching the replay it was just an ok run. Amazed to see that he started favourite in a G3 1400m race!
He’ll definitely be better for the run & up in trip next start. He’s got talent, just not sure what races on the calendar will suit him. Maybe an Easter Cup 2000m at Caulfield next month?
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Posted By: Xavier
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2019 at 7:14pm
I think I read somewhere they are planning on taking him up to QLD
------------- Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes
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Posted By: Xavier
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2019 at 9:39am
Hayes thinking of putting him in the paddock. Light autumn, bigger fish to fry in the spring.
------------- Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes
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Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2019 at 12:08am
Never gave a yelp in the Bendigo Mile last start.
Back to Caulfield & up to 2000m, I’m happy to go with him each way in tomorrow’s Easter Cup at 8/1
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Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2019 at 6:40pm
Good to see him have a go today.
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2019 at 6:47pm
Gave you a good sight LH.
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Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2019 at 6:49pm
Magnolian Khan wrote:
Good to see him have a go today. | I was on each way MK, so wish he could have reeled in Plan Ciel.
But $2.90 the place was a more than satisfactory return.
It’s a quandary for connections though as to where they go moving forward. Do they press on to Brissie or spell and gear up for the Spring?
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2019 at 7:26pm
Saved for the spring apparently.
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2019 at 7:29pm
Will need to find lengths.
Should be up North in a trice imho.
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Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2019 at 7:34pm
Hayes has said he took a long time to settle in after the Stable change.. Will only improve, but he will need to.
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2019 at 7:56pm
Which hardly makes sense. Had been in the paddock for two months before going to Hayes, and in a similar environment beforehand.
Far from the first time Hayes has inferred prior trainers or conditions were a factor in his initial inability to get horses up.
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2019 at 8:09pm
Correct me if I'm wrong but am fairly sure it was yet another winless day for the stable
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Posted By: SHOVHOG
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2019 at 10:15am
Without the interference it goes very close to winning. Plain Ciel was the beneficiary of that incident no doubt.
------------- " In gambling the many must lose in order for the few to win"
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Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 02 May 2019 at 6:00pm
Great to see him win another race. He is A very good horse.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 02 May 2019 at 6:01pm
Good to see him stay the trip. I was starting to wonder if he would get 2400m let alone further.
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Posted By: Xavier
Date Posted: 06 May 2019 at 5:53pm
Change of plans for this horse, not going to the paddock. Will run in the Andrew Ramsden
------------- Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes
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Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 06 May 2019 at 6:33pm
Looks like the VRC's exmption for the big one has resulted in renewed interest in the Ramsden.
So that is Furrion, Steel Prince, Sin To Win, the NZ'er Felaar, and the deserving favourite Surprise Baby, looks like being a good off season race!
------------- Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise
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Posted By: Xavier
Date Posted: 20 May 2019 at 10:50am
Not running in the Ramsden
Slight leg issue so going out for a spell.
Back for the Spring
------------- Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes
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Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2019 at 10:39pm
Still listed as spelling and not in the Cup nominations
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2019 at 11:00pm
Must be injured.
Can not be wasting a spring just for the sake of it.
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Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2020 at 8:21pm
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2021 at 12:02am
After a disappointing spring, he has now been transferred to Lindsey Smith
------------- Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing
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Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2021 at 9:07pm
Stretched out nicely in the straight today over 1400m.
He probably won’t be the horse we hoped prior to his injury, but would be great to see him get back to some good form.
I figure we’ll see him over 1700-1800m next start, so might be worth following over the winter.
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Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 03 Jul 2021 at 11:00pm
Confirmed that he’s come back in good order this prep with another tidy run for 2nd today over 1600m at Flemington in the Winter Championship Final. Didn’t quicken with the winner but stuck to his task very well.
Wins next start at 1800-2000m.
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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2021 at 5:54pm
Hopefully you got on today LH.
------------- Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing
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Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2021 at 9:16pm
Shawy38 wrote:
Hopefully you got on today LH. |
Absolutely Shawy $$$
Great to see him win again. Lindsay Smith mentioned a 2000m race at MV as his next assignment. I know he’s not raced at MV before but I’d be sticking to Flemington &/or Caulfield where he’s a proven commodity.
But full kudos to Lindsay for getting him back in cracking form.
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