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Topic: Fifty Stars - WOW!
Posted By: djebel
Subject: Fifty Stars - WOW!
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2018 at 1:25pm
Fifty StarsCOLT 20/02/2015  
Sea the Stars (IRE)
Bay 2006
Cape Cross
Bay or brown 1994
Green Desert
Bay 1983
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Foreign Courier
Bay 1979
Sir Ivor
Courtly Dee
1965
1968
8-g
A4
Park Appeal
Bay or brown 1982
Ahonoora
Chestnut 1975
Lorenzaccio
Helen Nichols
1965
1966
5-h
1-m
Balidaress
Grey 1973
Balidar
Innocence
1966
1968
8-d
14-c
Urban Sea
Chestnut 1989
Miswaki
Chestnut 1978
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Gold Digger
1961
1962
8-f
13-c
Hopespringseternal
Chestnut 1971
Buckpasser
Rose Bower
1963
1958
1-s
16-g
Allegretta
Chestnut 1978
Lombard
Chestnut 1967
Agio
Promised Lady
1955
1961
9-h
1-d
Anatevka
Chestnut 1969
Espresso
Almyra
1958
1962
7-a
9-h
Swizzle Stick (IRE)
Bay 2007
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Brown 1954
Nearco
Lady Angela
1935
1944
4-r
14-c
Natalma
Bay 1957
Native Dancer
Almahmoud
1950
1947
5-f
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Bay 1968
Hail to Reason
Lalun
1958
1952
4-n
19-b
Special
Bay 1969
Forli
Thong
1963
1964
3-b
5-h
Viz
Bay 2002
Darshaan
Brown 1981
Shirley Heights
Bay 1975
Mill Reef
Hardiemma
1968
1969
22-d
1-l
Delsy
Brown 1972
Abdos
Kelty
1959
1965
1-e
13-c
For Example
Bay 1992
Northern Baby
Bay 1976
Northern Dancer
Two Rings
1961
1970
2-d
17-b
Bold Example
Bay 1969
Bold Lad
Lady Be Good
1962
1956
5-f
8-h
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer5m x 3m,5m


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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2018 at 1:26pm
Debuting Race 2 Warrnambool.

Too short both distance and price wise.

Hopefully has the class to overcome the short trip.

Bound to be wasted in Australia especially with the dart thrower.




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Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2018 at 1:38pm
Gelding?


Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2018 at 1:39pm
Colt


Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2018 at 2:57pm
Oh dear, he's a pit pony, still from small packages.......Bol. gunna need it , or scalpel.


Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2018 at 3:09pm
Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Oh dear, he's a pit pony, still from small packages.......Bol. gunna need it , or scalpel.

And wins, now settle down djebel, it's only a maiden, but impressive.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 02 May 2018 at 9:27pm
Let's hope he goes on with it tomorrow.

He will make a wonderful stallion no matter what he achieves on the racetrack. 




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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 02 May 2018 at 9:33pm
Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Oh dear, he's a pit pony, still from small packages.......Bol. gunna need it , or scalpel.

And wins, now settle down djebel, it's only a maiden, but impressive.

I think he is doing exactly what I have been saying.

This horse is probably a potential superstar stayer and that type of horse has loads of speed. Our trainers than run them into the ground over too short a trip for too long and ruin them.

Let's see what happens over the next 12 months.




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Posted By: Kimberley Mine
Date Posted: 03 May 2018 at 6:30am
I agree that he's bred to run all day and half of tomorrow--arguably better suited to NZ than Australia.

If he doesn't want to be a flat racehorse, with a pedigree like that he shouldn't have any problem finding a home as an eventer or chaser.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 03 May 2018 at 8:19pm
He is better than we will ever see.

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Posted By: Manny G
Date Posted: 04 May 2018 at 10:04am
travelled well and then checked and pulling through the run on wet ground - travelled into the gap and went bye bye !

Looks an amazing type and the win was super impressive and the stallion is a great sire !

His figures from his debut win on the day where panels on higher grade races inc last 600m so this performance was no surprise but betting black figures was luxury for the faithful - happy days #backweirdrinkbeer

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Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 04 May 2018 at 10:52am
Wouldn’t be surprised if this horse wins a group 1 in the next 12 months


Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 04 May 2018 at 10:55am
Three winners already out of that maiden.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 15 May 2018 at 3:44am
I see he is running on Wednesday over 1400m in a BM70.

He is just running them for the sake of running them.

I doubt they realise just what a good horse they have.



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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 16 May 2018 at 4:48pm
Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

I see he is running on Wednesday over 1400m in a BM70.

He is just running them for the sake of running them.

I doubt they realise just what a good horse they have.



Where would you run him?


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 May 2018 at 4:49pm
Europe.

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Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 16 May 2018 at 4:56pm
Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Europe.


https://cdn.racing.com/~/media/rv/files/licensing/new-trainer-licence-application-form---current.pdf?la=en" rel="nofollow - https://cdn.racing.com/~/media/rv/files/licensing/new-trainer-licence-application-form---current.pdf?la=en


Posted By: Brudder_A
Date Posted: 16 May 2018 at 6:01pm
Very, very nice win today.

What's next? One more run or a bit of a spell?



Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 May 2018 at 6:04pm
Originally posted by Prince of Penzance Prince of Penzance wrote:

Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Europe.


https://cdn.racing.com/~/media/rv/files/licensing/new-trainer-licence-application-form---current.pdf?la=en" rel="nofollow - https://cdn.racing.com/~/media/rv/files/licensing/new-trainer-licence-application-form---current.pdf?la=en


If yhe conveyor belt does not win multiple group 1 races between 2000 and 2400m than he is kidding us all.



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Posted By: Manny G
Date Posted: 16 May 2018 at 7:30pm
they bet $4.20 this horse that looked like a star at Warrnambool under difficult conditions when it pulled the most of the way.

One of the best wins Ive seen on a country track - he looks promising and a very nice type

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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 May 2018 at 8:47pm
He is the best horse Darren Weir has trained.



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Posted By: Manny G
Date Posted: 16 May 2018 at 8:56pm
Not sure about that but gees he has some serious talent with a pedigree to support this and the future looks bright ! I actually told him that in Adelaide last week talking about Furion and I said to him Fifty Stars is a better horse and he shook his head hinting he agreed.

He looks good !

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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 May 2018 at 9:01pm
He has two superstars to go to war with next season this bloke and Peaceful State.

Wonder how long he takes to throw them in the deep end ?

Peaceful State can dominate up to and including a mile and Fifty Stars beyond.

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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 23 May 2018 at 11:04pm
Goes around again at 1400m.

Unf**kingbelievable. 




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Posted By: 3blindmice
Date Posted: 23 May 2018 at 11:24pm
He was handed the last win on a plate. Don't follow Vic form closely but surely trainers and jocks will put more pressure on this time? Looks progressive enough to handle the weight swings.


Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 24 May 2018 at 3:42pm
Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Goes around again at 1400m.

Unf**kingbelievable. 



It does seem strange that he’s going around over 1400m again.

I’ve not looked at the racing program for the next few weeks but surely there is a more suitable race in the 1700m-1800m range coming up.


Posted By: Xavier
Date Posted: 26 May 2018 at 6:44pm
Outstanding effort from the trainer to get this horse to keep winning

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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 26 May 2018 at 6:45pm
The horse is far to good for whatever Weir throws at him. 

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Posted By: Xavier
Date Posted: 26 May 2018 at 6:46pm
Queensland Guineas next run

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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 26 May 2018 at 6:58pm
He keeps winning.

Weir did have some reservations about the Queensland Guineas reminding us all he is 6 months younger than his peers.

I hope they rest him now.




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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 26 May 2018 at 6:59pm
That said I did like the idea that Weir thought the travel alone would help the horse grow up.




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Posted By: Xavier
Date Posted: 26 May 2018 at 7:02pm
Even if they just take him to Queensland for a spell in the winter sunshine, would be good for him

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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 26 May 2018 at 7:08pm
Yep, Agreed.




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Posted By: Morgan$
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2018 at 10:14pm
Does anybody know what the latest is with this guy?
He isn't in any markets for the spring at the moment, really think he will salute in a good race this spring.
Would be interested to see if anyone has any info on him. TIA


Posted By: ThreeBears
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2018 at 12:30am
Too young to compete against the older horses in the Spring for mine. Autumn will be his go. 


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 2:41am
Weir is going to kiss him right up.

G1 Railway Stakes on the cards for unbeaten entire Fifty Stars

By  https://www.punters.com.au/about/james-lamb/" rel="nofollow - James Lamb  12 hours ago
Fifty Stars could head west for the Railway StakesImage: Getty
Unbeaten Weir-trained entire  https://www.punters.com.au/horses/fifty-stars_614535/" rel="nofollow - Fifty Stars  is back in work and set to make his return to racing in October. 

The son of Sea The Stars made a huge impression in his first campaign, winning four-on-end in dominant fashion.

A debut winner in late-March, Fifty Stars was last seen winning by a widening 3.75L over 1400m at Sandown Lakeside on May 26. 

Owned by Ryco Equine, Fifty Stars races in the same silks as fellow Weir import and now stallion Puissance de Lune. 

https://www.punters.com.au/horses/fifty-stars_614535/" rel="nofollow">
https://www.punters.com.au/horses/fifty-stars_614535/" rel="nofollow -
Darren Weir
4yoH (b) Sea The Stars x Swizzle Stick
RATING 73
Career
4 4-0-0
Earnings
$113,850
Last 10
4 4-0-0
Win Range
1200-1400m

Weir's Warrnambool foreman, Jarrod McLean, said the promising four-year-old has been working well at the beach.

"He's come back in good order. He'll have a trial in two weeks and then we'll look to kick him off soon after that," McLean told Punters.com.au.

Fifty Stars is a $31 chance for the G1 Kennedy Mile (1600m) at Flemington on November 3 but McLean indicated the  https://www.punters.com.au/races/railway-stakes/" rel="nofollow - Railway Stakes  (1600m) in Western Australia is a more realistic target.

"Weiry plans to take him through his grades and hopefully end up in Perth for the Railway."

The $1 million Railway is held at Ascot on November 24, one week after the G3 Sandown Stakes (1500m) - which is an alternative for Fifty Stars if connections decide to keep him in Victoria.


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Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 10:42am
Hmm, the WATC Railway Hcp is a weird target race for him. Firm track over a mile in the WA summer.

He may well be a G1 horse in time, but surely some more suitable races over the Melb Spring for him to work through the grades.

The VRC Grey Smith Stakes (listed) 1800m on Melb Cup day &/or the G3 Eclipse Stks 1800m at Sandown would seem more suitable stepping stones thus prep.



Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 11:39am
I am 100% certain they do not know what they are working with.



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Posted By: ThreeBears
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 1:45pm
I'm 100% certain they have more idea than you. I always thought avoiding the Melbourne Spring was a good idea. Perth is a softer target and not a bad approach. It worked for Northerly in his early career. 


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 2:04pm
Originally posted by ThreeBears ThreeBears wrote:

I'm 100% certain they have more idea than you. I always thought avoiding the Melbourne Spring was a good idea. Perth is a softer target and not a bad approach. It worked for Northerly in his early career. 

Considering Northerly was a Perth horse fancy him going through his grades over there.

If Fifty Stars was with a proper hands on trainer, Say John Gosden or Sir Michael he'd be well on his way to an Arc.

Instead this guys undoubted talent which is far superior to his trainers talents, are going to be wasted over short trips.




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Posted By: billyjack
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 2:38pm
That's right we aussie trainers have no idea

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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 2:45pm
Originally posted by billyjack billyjack wrote:

That's right we aussie trainers have no idea

You have no idea how to develop stayers.

And that is what this guy is.

You see speed in a stayer and automatically think short courses.

And than you blame the breeders for not providing stamina.

I know I know, Your answer will be, If its so f**king easy get a license. Handshake


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Posted By: ThreeBears
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 3:17pm
Didn't Northerly progress to a major 2400m victory after his early Perth campaigns? Your reasoning has a lot of holes. If you think Fifty Stars is Arc class I'd say you definitely have no idea. Hasn't even won a Listed race yet. 


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 3:22pm
Originally posted by ThreeBears ThreeBears wrote:

Didn't Northerly progress to a major 2400m victory after his early Perth campaigns? Your reasoning has a lot of holes. If you think Fifty Stars is Arc class I'd say you definitely have no idea. Hasn't even won a Listed race yet. 

If you can not see class before it has been proven that is not my fault.




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Posted By: ThreeBears
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 3:24pm
Stop speaking emotive rubbish and start backing your opinion up with facts. 


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 3:35pm
Originally posted by ThreeBears ThreeBears wrote:

Stop speaking emotive rubbish and start backing your opinion up with facts. 

Unfortunately the fact at this stage are impossible to prove.

If you can not see that is your problem.

There can be 2 scenarios. 

1 the horse becomes a champion despite his trainer.

2 the horse fails dismally because of his trainer.

It really does not matter what this horse achieves under 2000m he was bred to be a champion at 2400m and beyond.






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Posted By: ThreeBears
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 3:40pm
Again I'll leave you to it. You're speaking emotive garbage. 


Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 3:49pm
This horse will win a Group 1 this spring


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 4:02pm
"Emotive garbage"

Quite possibly, his trainer gives me the gelatis sometimes.



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Posted By: billyjack
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 4:18pm
You are just a Weir basher, he gets winners , you are just big noting key board tapper

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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 4:50pm
Originally posted by billyjack billyjack wrote:

You are just a Weir basher, he gets winners , you are just big noting key board tapper




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Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2018 at 2:05am
Originally posted by Prince of Penzance Prince of Penzance wrote:

This horse will win a Group 1 this spring

PoP, which G1 were you thinking he can pick up this spring? Cantala? Mackinnon?


Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2018 at 2:21pm
Nominated to resume on Friday

BM90 at Moonee Valley (Night) or BM78 at Benalla
Benalla worth $50,000
MV worth $120,000

Both over 1200m


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2018 at 2:52pm
Originally posted by Shawy38 Shawy38 wrote:

Nominated to resume on Friday

BM90 at Moonee Valley (Night) or BM78 at Benalla
Benalla worth $50,000
MV worth $120,000

Both over 1200m

Unbelievable.

And people insist on blaming our breeders for a lack of stamina.




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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2018 at 3:02pm
If they insist on running him over 1200m than I hope they pick the BM78 at Benalla.

But it is absolutely bullgelati placement.




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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2018 at 3:18pm
Also down for a BM86 1250m race at Morphettville on Saturday


Posted By: Black Prince 2
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2018 at 10:22am
Originally posted by billyjack billyjack wrote:

You are just a Weir basher, he gets winners , you are just big noting key board tapper


I get that impression also billyjack hahaaha


Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2018 at 12:58pm
Accepted at Benalla


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2018 at 2:54pm
Gate 18 LOL

Two of my future group 1 winners are done to run there on Friday.




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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2018 at 6:58pm
I see him winning by two lengths


Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2018 at 7:12pm
Shocking ride.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2018 at 7:14pm
Stupid race for him.

The horse is far superior to his trainer.

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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 3:38pm
Fifty Donkeys


Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 4:36pm
The fact he hasn't seen further than 7 furlongs in 6 starts is baffling


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 5:42pm
Originally posted by TJMitchell TJMitchell wrote:

The fact he hasn't seen further than 7 furlongs in 6 starts is baffling


It is bordering on disgraceful.

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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 5:51pm
Despite the defeat of Fifty Stars, who was purchased by Gerry Ryan when unraced in Ireland, Weir said he was pleased enough with the performance to finish second to Manuel but said he still needed to work on the horse to improve his racing manners.

"Last time in he used to be a very difficult horse," Weir said of the son of Sea The Stars.

"He used to be very aggressive and want to get things done too quick so we've concentrated on getting him to switch off and do all the right things, but it's sort of gone the other way now.

"Johnny (Allen) said he might need working in company now to get him hard and fit.

"It's all a bit trial and error but I'm not one bit concerned. He had a beautiful day out and he'll come on from that."

Fifty Stars had won four of his first five starts out to 1400 metres but Weir said the horse is certain to learn from Wednesday's defeat and would have another chance to shine this spring.

http://www.racing.com/news/2018-10-17/review-imports-please-weir-at-caulfield" rel="nofollow - http://www.racing.com/news/2018-10-17/review-imports-please-weir-at-caulfield



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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 5:58pm
I'll bite my f**king tongue

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Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 6:08pm
Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

I'll bite my f**king tongue

Try a pillow , doesn't hurt as much.


Posted By: Bonfield
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 9:36pm
Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Originally posted by TJMitchell TJMitchell wrote:

The fact he hasn't seen further than 7 furlongs in 6 starts is baffling


It is bordering on disgraceful.

Just checked his breeding. Sea The Stars out of Sadlers Wells mare. Suggests 2400m+.


Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2018 at 11:46am
Originally posted by Bonfield Bonfield wrote:

Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Originally posted by TJMitchell TJMitchell wrote:

The fact he hasn't seen further than 7 furlongs in 6 starts is baffling


It is bordering on disgraceful.

Just checked his breeding. Sea The Stars out of Sadlers Wells mare. Suggests 2400m+.

Sea The Stars has had maybe...7 horses ever to win at 1200m or below. It's something crazy like that. Out of like 250 odd winners.


Posted By: Bonfield
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2018 at 10:33pm
How good will he be when he goes to 1600M and beyond?


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2018 at 10:42pm
Hopefully he is not sick of it all by the time he gets there.

It is almost as though they run him in races a minimum of 200m short of where he should be.




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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2018 at 10:50pm
Their target is apparently the Railway in Perth. This would be fine if he was first or 2nd up but with that race 5 and a half weeks away and him likely to have 2 or 3 starts before than he is going to be too dour.





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Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2018 at 1:57am
Maybe he’ll have s break and go to the Railway Stakes 1600m as the first start of a summer campaign that would be followed by the Kingston Town 1800m & the Perth Cup 2400m. Those latter races would qualify him for the major Cups in Spring 2019.



Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 31 Oct 2018 at 10:00pm
Image result for banging head meme

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Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 3:38pm
TAB have him as a 5/1 fave for Tuesday’s 1400m race.

He’s also 10/1 for the Railway Stks 1600m in Perth, but 25/1 for the Kingston Town over 1800m.


Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 4:12pm
He is $1.95 in today’s paper form guide


Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 6:03pm
Originally posted by Prince of Penzance Prince of Penzance wrote:

He is $1.95 in today’s paper form guide

Oops, was looking at the tote odds. Still $2.30 win fixed odds.


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 6:11pm
Looks a good race for him, and he'll presumably head west if he preforms to expectations.


Posted By: Mug-Punter
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2018 at 9:49pm
D Day for this fella tomorrow. First time this prep I'll be on (Enhanced $3.20 SB)

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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2018 at 9:56pm
Stable expect him to win


Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2018 at 10:10pm
They must have hammered him today, because in Best Bets he was $5 with Sports bet, and I was thinking that was short.


The stable finally get Man From Uncle out to 1400m, Manuel is in form, Prince Of Quens is underrated, Éclair Calling is no slouch and am interested in Qiji Phoenix ( barrier), and Bravo Tango.

Good strong race!


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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2018 at 12:25am
Originally posted by Mug-Punter Mug-Punter wrote:

D Day for this fella tomorrow. First time this prep I'll be on (Enhanced $3.20 SB)


D day ?

This horse is a 4 miler in a 1400m race.



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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2018 at 12:05pm
This heavy surface should be good for him.

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Posted By: Smoke and Mirrors
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2018 at 12:06pm
Looks to have 10 lengths on this lot

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Posted By: Enabled
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2018 at 12:15pm
Nice price today.


Posted By: Smoke and Mirrors
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2018 at 12:15pm
Way too good for them

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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2018 at 12:18pm
I hope I am wrong but I can not see him winning a Railway Stakes on a tight turning track.



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Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2018 at 1:33pm
Maybe a little too nippy for him around Ascot, wanted to lay in a little a furlong out, could have been on the wrong leg maybe, still think he's 6 months away imo.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 5:37pm
Now we are being told Australia's fastest stayer is going to be asked to run over 1500m at Sandown on Saturday week and go to Perth the following week for The Railway.

I hope the travel arrangements get stuffed up and he does not make it to Perth.



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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 5:40pm
Reckon his next run will be in the Railway.

ps have been known to be wrong before today.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 5:44pm
Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Reckon his next run will be in the Railway.

ps have been known to be wrong before today.


If they have to go there than I hope you are right.

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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 12:39pm
http://www.rwwa.com.au/CrisFileManager/UI/ViewAttachment.aspx?meeting=17461&code=RACEBOOK&f=ie.pdf" rel="nofollow - https://www.rwwa.com.au/CrisFileManager/UI/ViewAttachment.aspx?meeting=17461&code=RACEBOOK&f=ie.pdf

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Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 12:41pm
My understanding is he will either run at Sandown or Perth.
Not both.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 12:45pm
Originally posted by Prince of Penzance Prince of Penzance wrote:

My understanding is he will either run at Sandown or Perth.
Not both.

Apparently he needs to win at Sandown to be any chance of getting into the Railway.

Hopefully they forget the Railway and go over for the Kingston Town or whatever it is called these days.




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Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 1:24pm
I’m assuming the target race at Sandown is the G3 Sandown Stks (1500m)?

But Isn’t the G1 WATC Railway Stakes 1600m then only 7 days after the Sandown meeting?

Seems like a difficult ask to go the other side of the country and race so soon.

If he is going to Perth, I’m sure sanity will prevail and the $1.0m G1 Kingston Town 1800m will be identified as the more suitable race (given its 3 weeks after Sandown).   He could then also run in the G2 CB Cox Stakes 2100m two weeks after that.





Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 3:28pm
Freak of a horse


Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 3:39pm
Originally posted by Prince of Penzance Prince of Penzance wrote:

Freak of a horse

I admire your enthusiasm POP, ...but freak , c'mon he's genuine and promising , no more imo.


Posted By: correctweight
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 3:47pm
Yeah not a freak nowhere near one. Just a good horse.

Freaks are minimum Atlantic Jewel level.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2018 at 3:48pm
Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Originally posted by Prince of Penzance Prince of Penzance wrote:

Freak of a horse

I admire your enthusiasm POP, ...but freak , c'mon he's genuine and promising , no more imo.


Do be doing this at less than 1600m he is a freak.

He is easily the best horse Weir has trained.

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