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Topic: High Energy
Posted By: djebel
Subject: High Energy
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2018 at 8:09pm
High Energy colt 2014  
High Chaparral (IRE)
Bay 1999
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Brown 1954
Nearco
Lady Angela
1935
1944
4-r
14-c
Natalma
Bay 1957
Native Dancer
Almahmoud
1950
1947
5-f
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Bay 1968
Hail to Reason
Lalun
1958
1952
4-n
19-b
Special
Bay 1969
Forli
Thong
1963
1964
3-b
5-h
Kasora
Brown 1993
Darshaan
Brown 1981
Shirley Heights
Bay 1975
Mill Reef
Hardiemma
1968
1969
22-d
1-l
Delsy
Brown 1972
Abdos
Kelty
1959
1965
1-e
13-c
Kozana
Brown 1982
Kris
Chestnut 1976
Sharpen Up
Doubly Sure
1969
1971
5-i
2-o
Koblenza
Brown 1966
Hugh Lupus
Kalimara
1952
1960
19>
1-n
Solar Verde (GB)
Bay 2008
Oasis Dream
Bay 2000
Green Desert
Bay 1983
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Foreign Courier
Bay 1979
Sir Ivor
Courtly Dee
1965
1968
8-g
A4
Hope
Bay 1991
Dancing Brave
Bay 1983
Lyphard
Navajo Princess
1969
1974
17-b
3-d
Bahamian
Chestnut 1985
Mill Reef
Sorbus
1968
1975
22-d
19>
Spanish Sun
Bay 2000
El Prado
Grey 1989
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Fairy Bridge
1961
1975
2-d
5-h
Lady Capulet
Grey 1974
Sir Ivor
Cap and Bells
1965
1958
8-g
1-l
Shining Bright
Bay or brown 1989
Rainbow Quest
Bay 1981
Blushing Groom
I Will Follow
1974
1975
22-d
14-f
Bourbon Girl
Bay 1984
Ile de Bourbon
Fleet Girl
1975
1975
4-i
4-m
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer3m x 5m,5m Sadler's Wells2m x 4m Mill Reef5m x 5f 
  Sir Ivorx 5f,5f


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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2018 at 2:19pm
Provided Weir is not too conservative and does not over race him before hand, this guy will win The Australian Derby.

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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2018 at 2:25pm
Big call, would like to see him at 2000m next start in about 3 weeks


Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2018 at 3:15pm
Merchant Navy may have something to say about that lol, but I think the QE11 might be more suitable, imo he's a knockout.


Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2018 at 3:42pm
SA Derby type


Posted By: talk
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2018 at 3:58pm
Have him as my selection in the 'Bargain buy' competition. Very promising debut.

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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2018 at 4:25pm
Originally posted by Shawy38 Shawy38 wrote:

SA Derby type

Far superior to that.

That would be the target of a very conservative trainer. 




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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2018 at 4:30pm
$16,000 a very good buy


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2018 at 4:41pm
Never Fade (GB) 2008
 Life Number: GB45121883bay mareDate of Birth: 27/03/2008 
 Microchip Number: 985101045121883DNA Typed: Y 
 by Dansili (GB) 1996Contact: Arrowfield Pastoral Pty Ltd, NSW 
 from Shining Bright (GB) 1989 
 bred by Juddmonte Farms Ltd 
Australian Breeding Record
https://www.studbook.org.au/HorseMareProducePdf.aspx?mid=1086732" rel="nofollow"> https://www.studbook.org.au/HorseMareProducePdf.aspx?mid=1086732" rel="nofollow -   Printable Version
SeasonDOBColourSexName or Last
Service Date
SireComment
201829/09/2017 https://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=1000432" rel="nofollow - Dundeel (NZ) Pending Certification of Paternity  https://www.studbook.org.au/horse.aspx?hid=1086732&pagetype=MAREBRDG#" rel="nofollow">certification of paternity being submitted by the Stallion Proprietor">
201713/08bcolt01/09/2016 https://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=1000432" rel="nofollow - Dundeel (NZ) not tested
201623/11/2015 https://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=1019838" rel="nofollow - Animal Kingdom (USA) missed
201525/09b https://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=1111176" rel="nofollow - colt 13/10/2014 https://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=1019838" rel="nofollow - Animal Kingdom (USA) parentage verified


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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2018 at 4:42pm
Well well well well well 

ENABLE (GB)Bay filly 2014 
Nathaniel
Bay 2008
Galileo
Bay 1998
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Urban Sea
Chestnut 1989
Miswaki
Chestnut 1978
Mr Prospector
Hopespringseternal
1970
1971
13-c
16-g
Allegretta
Chestnut 1978
Lombard
Anatevka
1967
1969
1-d
9-h
Magnificient Style
Bay or brown 1993
Silver Hawk
Bay 1979
Roberto
Bay 1969
Hail to Reason
Bramalea
1958
1959
4-n
12-c
Gris Vitesse
Grey 1966
Amerigo
Matchiche
1955
1956
1-p
21-a
Mia Karina
Brown 1983
Icecapade
Grey 1969
Nearctic
Shenanigans
1954
1963
14-c
8-c
Basin
Bay 1972
Tom Rolfe
Delta
1962
1952
9-h
9-f
Concentric
Bay 2004
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Brown 1954
Nearco
Lady Angela
1935
1944
4-r
14-c
Natalma
Bay 1957
Native Dancer
Almahmoud
1950
1947
5-f
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Bay 1968
Hail to Reason
Lalun
1958
1952
4-n
19-b
Special
Bay 1969
Forli
Thong
1963
1964
3-b
5-h
Apogee
Bay 1990
Shirley Heights
Bay 1975
Mill Reef
Bay 1968
Never Bend
Milan Mill
1960
1962
19-b
22-d
Hardiemma
Bay 1969
Hardicanute
Grand Cross
1962
1952
3-j
1-l
Bourbon Girl
Bay 1984
Ile de Bourbon
Bay 1975
Nijinsky
Roseliere
1967
1965
8-f
4-i
Fleet Girl
Chestnut 1975
Habitat
Fleet Noble
1966
1970
4-r
4-m
 Ancestor duplications:Nearctic5m,5m x 4m Sadler's Wells3m x 2f Hail to Reason5m x 5m


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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2018 at 4:44pm
FLINTSHIRE (GB)Bay or brown colt 2010 
Dansili
Bay or brown 1996
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Pas de Nom
Bay or brown 1968
Admiral's Voyage
Petitioner
1959
1952
4-n
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Bay 1968
Ribot
Flower Bowl
1952
1952
4-l
4-d
Spring Adieu
Bay 1974
Buckpasser
Natalma
1963
1957
1-s
2-d
Hasili
Bay 1991
Kahyasi
Bay 1985
Ile de Bourbon
Bay 1975
Nijinsky
Roseliere
1967
1965
8-f
4-i
Kadissya
Bay 1979
Blushing Groom
Kalkeen
1974
1974
22-d
5-e
Kerali
Chestnut 1984
High Line
Chestnut 1966
High Hat
Time Call
1957
1955
2-o
5-e
Sookera
Bay or brown 1975
Roberto
Irule
1969
1968
12-c
11>
Dance Routine
Bay 1999
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Brown 1954
Nearco
Lady Angela
1935
1944
4-r
14-c
Natalma
Bay 1957
Native Dancer
Almahmoud
1950
1947
5-f
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Bay 1968
Hail to Reason
Lalun
1958
1952
4-n
19-b
Special
Bay 1969
Forli
Thong
1963
1964
3-b
5-h
Apogee
Bay 1990
Shirley Heights
Bay 1975
Mill Reef
Bay 1968
Never Bend
Milan Mill
1960
1962
19-b
22-d
Hardiemma
Bay 1969
Hardicanute
Grand Cross
1962
1952
3-j
1-l
Bourbon Girl
Bay 1984
Ile de Bourbon
Bay 1975
Nijinsky
Roseliere
1967
1965
8-f
4-i
Fleet Girl
Chestnut 1975
Habitat
Fleet Noble
1966
1970
4-r
4-m
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer4m x 3m Natalma5m,5f x 4m Ile de Bourbon4m x 4f


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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2018 at 4:45pm
ARCH FIRE (USA)Bay gelding 2008 
Arch
Bay or brown 1995
Kris S
Bay or brown 1977
Roberto
Bay 1969
Hail to Reason
Brown 1958
Turn-To
Nothirdchance
1951
1948
1-w
4-n
Bramalea
Bay or brown 1959
Nashua
Rarelea
1952
1949
3-m
12-c
Sharp Queen
Bay 1965
Princequillo
Bay 1940
Prince Rose
Cosquilla
1928
1933
10-c
1-b
Bridgework
Brown 1955
Occupy
Feale Bridge
1941
1942
23-b
10-a
Aurora
Bay 1988
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Pas de Nom
Bay or brown 1968
Admiral's Voyage
Petitioner
1959
1952
4-n
7-a
Althea
Chestnut 1981
Alydar
Chestnut 1975
Raise a Native
Sweet Tooth
1961
1965
8-f
9-c
Courtly Dee
Bay or brown 1968
Never Bend
Tulle
1960
1950
19-b
A4
Quickfire
Bay 2002
Dubai Millennium
Bay 1996
Seeking the Gold
Bay 1985
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Gold Digger
1961
1962
8-f
13-c
Con Game
Bay or brown 1974
Buckpasser
Broadway
1963
1959
1-s
5-c
Colorado Dancer
Bay or brown 1986
Shareef Dancer
Bay 1980
Northern Dancer
Sweet Alliance
1961
1974
2-d
4-r
Fall Aspen
Chestnut 1976
Pretense
Change Water
1963
1969
3-i
4-m
Daring Miss
Bay 1996
Sadler's Wells
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Fairy Bridge
Bay 1975
Bold Reason
Special
1968
1969
19-b
5-h
Bourbon Girl
Bay 1984
Ile de Bourbon
Bay 1975
Nijinsky
Roseliere
1967
1965
8-f
4-i
Fleet Girl
Chestnut 1975
Habitat
Fleet Noble
1966
1970
4-r
4-m
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer4m x 5m,4m Raise a Native5m x 5m


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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2018 at 4:52pm
Ace High might stand in his way also Djebel.


Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2018 at 6:39pm
Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

Ace High might stand in his way also Djebel.


Is that the 3 y/o from Rosehill furious? if so I think Sydney's Autumn will be a big one.


Posted By: Ticino
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2018 at 10:06am
Hello,
I find it quite remarkable "Flintshire" is bred 4x4 Ile de Bourbon, via son and a daughter. As he was more or less a disapointment, in Germany Ile de Bourbon is the sire of Lagunas, from the "Love In" Family, he won the German Derby. He had some Stakes winners, but turned out a good broodmare Sire, btw Lagunas is the damsire of "Novellist".
 
regards, Ticino


Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2018 at 9:40pm
What about the filly that spanked him? Up to a mile, blinkers on and KABANG!

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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 10:51am
Little bit concerned about the Cumani newcomer today.

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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 11:13am
ran very well


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 11:16am
The jockey was absolutely atrocious

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Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 11:24am
What was wrong with the ride?


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2018 at 11:31am
Watch the race.

He allowed himself to be shuffled too far back.

Totally incompetent ride.

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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2018 at 12:16pm
Nominated for the Tasmanian Derby 2200m next Friday, 9/2


Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2018 at 12:17pm
However is accepted for a 1600m Maiden at Ballarat on tuesday


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2018 at 12:21pm
Thanks.

Faaar too short for him now.



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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2018 at 11:58am
He is listed as gelded surely this is a mistake ?

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Posted By: Long Row
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2018 at 4:06pm
Nice horse. Gelding him has sorted him out Wink


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2018 at 7:40pm
When was he gelded ?

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Posted By: tillyras
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2018 at 7:49pm
I would say he was gelded unraced. No way would he have been gelded after running on Jan 28 and running again today.


Posted By: Speediskey
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2018 at 7:54pm
Horses run gelded but say they haven’t been all the time, trainers just forget to tell anyone.


Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2018 at 8:33pm
Gelded unraced as tillyras says. Have him inbthe comp as a gelding before the first run.


Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2018 at 8:35pm
Gelded unraced as tillyras says. Have him in the comp as a gelding before the first run.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2018 at 8:43pm
When I saw the geldisation today I cdid suspect he was born a gelding.

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Posted By: tillyras
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2018 at 9:46pm
The computer system they use is outdated. Gelded with the surgery date should be listed under gear changes


Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 1:59am
Being tested over 2400m today at Sandown in Race 7.

If he’s going to amount to being a Derby contender (either SA or QTC), he’ll want to be running well here against very mediocre opposition.

I didn’t see his latest unplaced run. We’re there excuses?


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 2:23am
I have lost interest since I learnt he is a gelding. He should not be allowed to run a Classic.

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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 9:34am
Forget the last race. Slow pace didn’t help him at all.
He needs the speed on, so he can get back and rattle Home.


Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 20 May 2018 at 5:30pm
Looked unlucky today. Blocked for a run but got to the line ok after switching paths behind a wall of horses.

All in all a decent first campaign. Hopefully to the paddock now, let him mature a bit more and I’m sure there’s some metropolitan staying races for him as a 4yo.


Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2019 at 8:12pm
I had no idea this guy had headed west to Perth.

Low & behold he won won over 2200m at Ascot a few weeks ago at 15/1 !!

Goes around tmrw in the 2400m race at Ascot.



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