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Topic: 2018 The Everest
Posted By: djebel
Subject: 2018 The Everest
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2017 at 12:31pm
Battaash

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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2017 at 12:40pm

International campaign on the agenda for blistering 'Bolttaash'

By David Baxter

France could be just the beginning for lightning-fast Abbaye winner Battaash, with trainer Charlie Hills eyeing a global campaign next year for his sprint sensation who has new golden shoes to match his speed.

Given the speed in which he covers five furlongs, it can be a case of blink and you miss Battaash, but he was easy to spot on Sunday sporting his natty copper shoes.

"Usain Bolt can have them, so why not him?" Hills joked. "We call him Bolttaash now."

The snazzy shoes are set to stay, and with Battaash having taken his first trip abroad in his stride, Hills is now eyeing targets further afield for the son of Dark Angel, who could become the yard's first global moneyspinner, with targets including the Everest in Australia in October next year.

The three-year-old's four-length demolition job of his rivals down the straight at Chantilly was a sight to behold, as he careered away from the field under Jim Crowley to claim a first Group 1.

It was a display of controlled aggression and pace, as opposed to his run in the Nunthorpe at York, where he boiled over beforehand and could only finish fourth.

"He took it all really well, obviously we didn't want a repeat of York," Hills said on Tuesday.

"He was stabled in a different yard the night before and came over to the course at around 10am. It was a great day, he's got so much ability and raw speed."

Well-behaved at home, Battaash gets his game face on when at the track. Hills said: "He's very chilled out, like a pet. He goes out with the string no problem, it's just his blood gets up when he's out on course."

Battaash is set to return to action next year and Hills said: "There's lots of money abroad and there's plenty of races to look at like the Everest in Australia."

Having been gelded to help concentrate his mind on racing, Battaash's value lies in winning races, and he could go to Meydan for the Al Quoz in March before the King's Stand at Royal Ascot next year, and Hills is confident he will be even better at four.

The trainer said: "He'll definitely improve next year, I've never seen a horse with so much speed on the gallops. He'll go back to Shadwell now for a break, and then we'll look to have him back in around Christmas."



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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2017 at 12:41pm


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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2017 at 12:45pm
The magic word - gelding - might actually make it here.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2017 at 1:47pm
COMMENT JULIAN MUSCAT

To walk the walk you gotta talk the talk

No such qualms surround another horse who dazzled at Chantilly on Sunday. Battaash was immense, and we can anticipate more of the same for many moons. The beauty of Battaash is that he is a gelding.

It is easy to empathise with those who believe geldings have no place in Group 1 races like the Prix de l’Abbaye. Entire horses are not as straightforward to handle. In Battaash’s case, it’s more than likely he would be untrainable with testosterone coursing through his highly-charged veins.

Against that, it would be a crime to be denied the spectacular sight of Battaash in full flow. Front-running sprinters have a unique dynamic. As with a lightning bolt, you can almost feel electricity in the air.

In some ways it’s a shame connections appear unwilling to commit Battaash to a duel with Lady Aurelia in the Breeders’ Cup Turf Sprint. But Battaash should derive great benefit from a quiet winter, from which he should emerge a less fretful horse. In that event, he looks a natural for the A$10 million Everest sprint in Australia a year from now.

There was an interesting aside to Battaash’s triumph. He was fitted with gold-coloured racing plates, a ruse doubtless inspired by the golden spikes Michael Johnson wore when taking 200m and 400m golds at the 1996 Atlanta Olympics.

They were not out of place, although when trainer Charlie Hills was asked about them afterwards he left the clear impression he would rather be any place except standing before his interviewer. He was overcome by embarrassment.

As Frankie Dettori has shown, there’s nothing wrong with introducing a bit of showbiz to racing. In doing that, however, you must adhere to the old showbiz maxim. If you wanna walk the walk, you gotta talk the talk. Or you’ll end up looking like a proper charlie.



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Posted By: Lordy
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2017 at 5:50pm
Pretty impressive win.  What was the quality of the field like?


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2017 at 5:56pm
Very good quality, at least by UK standards and clearly superior to French standards. Big smile

Profitable and Marsha are genuine group 1 UK horses and Queen Kindly will win something nice one day.

 


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Posted By: RED HUNTER
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2017 at 9:06pm
We have been bombarded on SKY 528 with 2017 EVEREST stories nearly every night for a long time now.

I have found it a giant yawn and refuse to watch any of this pre-event hype.

and now, are we going to suffer for another year?...coming


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2017 at 9:09pm
LOL

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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2017 at 9:12pm
If Battaash is the best Europe has to offer over the short course we have precious little to worry about.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2017 at 9:15pm
Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

If Battaash is the best Europe has to offer over the short course we have precious little to worry about.

You might well be right however by the time the International Classifications are released he will be the highest rated sprinter on the Planet. There is a reasonable chance he will improve on that rating next season.

It will the coup critics have been hoping for. A massive promotional boost to the race that stops a............. 


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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2017 at 9:28pm
I'm not for a moment doubting what you say Djebel.

However unless I'm mistaken (which is a regular affliction) the galloper has won just three Group races in its life thus far and none beyond 5f.


Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2017 at 10:25am
Originally posted by RED HUNTER RED HUNTER wrote:

We have been bombarded on SKY 528 with 2017 EVEREST stories nearly every night for a long time now.

I have found it a giant yawn and refuse to watch any of this pre-event hype.

and now, are we going to suffer for another year?...coming


You find it a Yawn but refuse to watch? Makes sense


Posted By: correctweight
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2017 at 10:30am
Speedy squib wont be suired on the Randwick straight. Better off in a Moir or Oakleigh


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2017 at 6:36pm
Originally posted by TIMEFORM TIMEFORM wrote:



Enable had sparkled when winning the Arc, but the best performance on the day in ratings terms came in the Prix de l’Abbaye from  https://www.timeform.com/horse-racing/horse-form/battaash/000000433046" rel="nofollow -  (up 1 lb to 136), who returned to form to record a first Group 1 success in devastating fashion by four lengths from Nunthorpe winner Marsha (remains on 130). Battaash doubled the previous highest winning margin in the Abbaye this century (Benbaun in 2007), confirming his status as an outstanding sprinter. As a gelding, he’ll be around for a while yet, and looks in a position to potentially dominate the division for some time to come, provided his temperament can be kept in check (got too worked up in the preliminaries before the Nunthorpe and was below form).




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Posted By: tillyras
Date Posted: 08 May 2018 at 12:20pm
MEDIA RELEASE
Triple Crown Syndications

Redzel set for Everest defence after Triple Crown and Yulong Investments reach deal

TRIPLE CROWN SYNDICATION’S inaugural Everest Champion REDZEL will return to defend his crown in the world’s richest race on turf after Triple Crown and Yulong Investments were today delighted to reach an agreement to race the five-year-old son of Snitzel in 2018’s renewal of The Everest, worth a staggering $13 Million.

Redzel, a winner of $8.69 Million in prizemoney, will look to defend his Group 1 Doomben 10,000 crown on Saturday, before heading for a spell and embarking on a spring campaign to defend his Everest title on October 13, 2018.

On reaching the deal Triple Crown’s Chris Ward said, “It was an incredible day for all involved last year when Redzel won The Everest and we are very much delighted to be returning with our fantastic team of owners to the race this year with the aim of defending his title.

“Mr Zhang has been a prominent supporter of the racing industry in Australia and we are thrilled to be partnering with his Yulong Investments group and teaming up with someone possessing such passion and ambition for the sport.

“Redzel has proven over the last 12 months to be the best sprinter in the country, winning the inaugural running of The Everest and the Group 1 Darley Classic in the Spring before claiming the Group 2 Challenge Stakes in the Autumn where he broke the track record for 1000m to add to his track record over 1100m at Randwick.

“Peter & Paul Snowden are the ultimate grand final trainers, as they proved in this race last year, and alongside Yulong Investments we have a strong team to retain The Everest in 2018.”

Sam Fairgray, Chief Operating Officer of Yulong Investments added, “We are delighted to secure Redzel to represent Yulong Investments in the 2018 Everest.

“He is the reigning Everest Champion and is one of Australia’s elite sprinters. His racing style and ability to handle all surfaces was a major factor in Mr Zhang selecting Redzel.

“The Snowdens already train a number of Yulong’s large racing team and are outstanding at getting horses to peak in their grand final. We look forward to teaming up with Triple Crown and their syndicate members in this year’s renewal of the Everest.”


Photos: Bradley Photographers


Posted By: Sneck
Date Posted: 08 May 2018 at 7:04pm
I'm going to pen every international that comes out for this race that isn't from Asia without even looking at their form.


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 08 May 2018 at 7:12pm
Just as an aside, the Yulong crew has been wonderful for breeders and trainers alike since they lobbed in Oz. 

And it's to the Australian industry's benefit if they and others can later get racing and breeding industry up in China.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 08 May 2018 at 7:38pm
Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Just as an aside, the Yulong crew has been wonderful for breeders and trainers alike since they lobbed in Oz. 

And it's to the Australian industry's benefit if they and others can later get racing and breeding industry up in China.


Breeders interests maybe.

The less horses exported the better.

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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 08 May 2018 at 7:57pm
Why do you say the less horses exported the better?

Sales to Singapore, Hong Kong and South Africa etc certainly assist breeders, but what's wrong with that?

And there are more than enough horses left over to supply the racing public with "product" seven days a week 52 weeks of the year.  This weekend alone there are 31 meetings around Australia with over 3700 nominations across every State and Territory.


Posted By: Sneck
Date Posted: 08 May 2018 at 8:08pm
Explain how our best racing prospects that happen to be geldings being taken out of the racing population is good for Australian racing.

And I could care less about prize money and yearling prices being at record highs.


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 08 May 2018 at 8:51pm
Approximately 1.2% of Australian-bred yearlings are sold overseas, and perhaps 0.5% of older horses.


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 08 May 2018 at 8:52pm
Whoops make that 0.05% of older horses.


Posted By: Sneck
Date Posted: 08 May 2018 at 9:20pm
I don't believe the figures but let's take them at face value.
My point still stands, that 0.05% comprises of most of our best racing prospects that happen to be geldings.
Silent Witness not racing in Australia was phenomenal for Australian racing.


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 08 May 2018 at 9:23pm
Whatever.  Ermm


Posted By: Synthetic
Date Posted: 13 May 2018 at 9:52pm
The Everest:
1.  Trapeze Artist - Aquis 
2. In Her Time - TAB
3. Redzel - Yu Long

Vega Magic
Menari
Viddora
Shoals
Kementari
Brave Smash
Happy Clapper
Bolttash
Redkirk Warrior
Written By
Estijaab
Oohood
Catchy
English

Remaining slots:
Max Whitby
Coolmore
Damion Flower
Star City
GPI Racing
Inglis
Chris Waller
James Harron
ATC


Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 13 May 2018 at 10:12pm
Surely if your a slot holder you are wary of the two year old's turning 3 yo's.

Could not have Estijabb OR Oohood represent me.

Could not see English winning or running top three. Redkirk Warrior is hopeless around a corner so he is left on the shelf, Vega Magic, Viddora and Menari have had injury seetbacks, so I want to see them run before I fall into them.

Happy Clapper and Brave Smash are probably better at 1300 or 1400m but first up they could win.

And so for mine, that leaves Kementari, Catchy and Shoals as my potential reps.

I could go outside the square and look at horses like Champagne Cuddles, Le Romaine and Pierata, but my nominee would be Shoals.

If she was mine, I would run Winx and then move into the Cox Plate second up. Train her right up for the Warwick Stakes, freshen up for the Everest and then she should still have the foundation for the Cox Plate.

Horses who have had a mile prep have run well in the Cox Plate before.


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Posted By: Synthetic
Date Posted: 13 May 2018 at 10:20pm
Agreed on Spring 3yos....I wouldn't be keen at all


Posted By: SHOVHOG
Date Posted: 14 May 2018 at 12:07am
I would be locking Vega Magic in. Certainty beaten last year.

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Posted By: Synthetic
Date Posted: 14 May 2018 at 8:00am
I'd agree...Vega Magic looks the most complete package. It will be an incredibly tough contest and a very interesting lead up.

Also, just read that Begg won't pursuit The Everest with Written By.


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 14 May 2018 at 11:11am
If I owned a top sprinter overseas I would be pretty keen on running in Everest this year.


Posted By: Synthetic
Date Posted: 14 May 2018 at 11:15am
Are there any prospective OS horses? There's still time if so. Aussie & HK sprinters do tend to be dominant given the focus OS on staying blood, but interested to know if there are any northern hemisphere contenders.


Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 14 May 2018 at 12:15pm
I would love to see Winx run in this race.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 14 May 2018 at 12:26pm
Harry Angel

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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 21 May 2018 at 1:43pm

Gerald Ryan says The Everest already top shelf despite being denied Group 1 status

RAY THOMAS, The Daily Telegraph
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  • TRAINER Gerald Ryan has weighed into The Everest Group 1 controversy as he outlines plans to prepare his brilliant sprinters,Trapeze Artist and Menari, for the world’s richest race on turf.

    The push by NSW racing officials to have the $13 million The Everest elevated to Group 1 for its second running at Royal Randwick on October 13 has been vetoed by Victoria but Ryan said the off-track debate won’t detract from the quality of the race.

    “I don’t think it really matters,’’ he said. “This issue was brought up last year.

    “Whether The Everest is a Group 1 or not, everyone knows eventually it will be.

    “It is always going to get the best field of sprinters in training anyway.’’

    Ryan already has The Everest’s $5 early favourite, Trapeze Artist, safely into the 12-horse field and he is hoping to secure a start for Menari.

    “I saw Trapeze Artist the other day and he is doing so well in the paddock he will need to come back in soon because he will get too heavy,’’ he said.

    “He looks terrific for a horse that has been out only three weeks. So I will bring him back in Monday week for pre-training. He went out for a spell at the top of his game; he didn’t go out a tired horse.’’

    Menari is already back in pre-training and will resume earlier in the spring than Trapeze Artist as Ryan chases an Everest slot.

    REIGN FAR FROM OVER

    GARY Portelli, who produced another two-year-old winner with  https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/superracing/gary-portelli-heaps-praise-on-ronstar-after-tough-debut-win/news-story/d046091abd3a8653de051aef0ee11478" rel="nofollow - first-starter https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/superracing/gary-portelli-heaps-praise-on-ronstar-after-tough-debut-win/news-story/d046091abd3a8653de051aef0ee11478" rel="nofollow - Ronstar   https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/superracing/gary-portelli-heaps-praise-on-ronstar-after-tough-debut-win/news-story/d046091abd3a8653de051aef0ee11478" rel="nofollow - at Rosehill Gardens  last Saturday, is chasing his Everest dream with She Will Reign.

    Portelli said She Will Reign, winner of the Golden Slipper last year, would resume training on Monday.

    “We want to go for The Everest again, that is the dream,’’ he said. “I would say she will have to win a lead-up race to get a slot.’’

    PAT WON’T BE HAPPY UNTIL STAR IS LOCKED IN

    TRAINER Pat Webster is hoping his outstanding galloper, Happy Clapper, isn’t forgotten by Everest slot-holders. Happy Clapper has won three Group 1 races this season, including the Epsom-Doncaster Mile double.

    Webster is keen to set the galloper for a first-up Everest assault. But he needs to lock in a slot-holder soon.

    Webster will need to start working Happy Clapper in the next three weeks and needs to know if he is preparing for an Everest start or a weight-for-age spring campaign.

    Happy Clapper has a brilliant first-up record and would be competitive in an Everest.



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    Posted By: Straight Connector
    Date Posted: 21 May 2018 at 1:47pm
    Is Happy Clapper actually a chance of running well in this, or is it just a self promotion exercise.

    I actually think he could run top 3, but I dont think he's a viable chance of winning.

    Would like to see him there for what it's worth though.


    Posted By: djebel
    Date Posted: 21 May 2018 at 1:59pm
    I was a little surprised to see this as his goal until somebody pointed out he resumed this time in with a course record for 1300m so a first up tilt at 1200m is not out of the question.




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    Posted By: Tlazolteotl
    Date Posted: 21 May 2018 at 2:00pm
    I read in the Murdoch tabloid that Melbourne is opposing the G1 classification, unless they change the date. Is that true?

    Now obviously the date has nothing to do with the quality of the race, so how can they do that?


    Posted By: Tlazolteotl
    Date Posted: 21 May 2018 at 2:01pm
    Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

    I read in the Murdoch tabloid that Melbourne is opposing the G1 classification, unless Sydney changes the date. Is that true?

    Now obviously the date has nothing to do with the quality of the race, so how can they do that?


    Posted By: djebel
    Date Posted: 21 May 2018 at 2:03pm
    Yep, All their arguements are pure tripe.




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    Posted By: 3blindmice
    Date Posted: 21 May 2018 at 2:59pm
    Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

    I read in the Murdoch tabloid that Melbourne is opposing the G1 classification, unless they change the date. Is that true?

    Now obviously the date has nothing to do with the quality of the race, so how can they do that?
    Linked elsewhere on TBV Tlaz. RV justification is that the race is too close to the Manikato hence not good for pattern racing. Something in that, but it's more about protecting their spring turf. 

    Imo no race which is not open to all comers on a performance basis should ever be given Group status, but it happens for invitational races OS so will no doubt happen here. When the E gets granted G1 status Magic Millions and other select race days should cash in , change their rules and make their races invitational - with only MM sales horses invited of course.

    To further ramp up the waning quality of our Group1s someone should bankroll a greys only G1 race, or perhaps for djebel's sake an entire's G1. More seriously though, how about a REAL best sprinter race at level weights? Problem is as we know that without the weight advantage trainers of 3yos and mares would look elsewhere because there are so many low hanging Group events these days.


    Posted By: djebel
    Date Posted: 21 May 2018 at 3:09pm
    Every single horse, if good enough, has the opportunity to run in The Everest.

    Every single horse, if good enough, DOES NOT have the chance to run in The Magic Millions races.




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    Posted By: Speediskey
    Date Posted: 21 May 2018 at 3:27pm
    Yeah, not every horse can run in the Arc and it's still the premier race in the world.


    Posted By: Tlazolteotl
    Date Posted: 21 May 2018 at 3:34pm
    I can't see how it makes any difference anyhow. Surely if you are going to spend $20 million on a colt or 100k on a service fee you have sufficient nous to work out which out of the G1 Manikato or Group Nothing Everest is the better race.


    Posted By: Xavier
    Date Posted: 21 May 2018 at 3:38pm
    I'm sick of the Melb vs Sydney debate.
    grow up and move on fiddlesticks


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    Posted By: Gay3
    Date Posted: 21 May 2018 at 4:24pm

    US trainer Wesley Ward - 'We want The Everest'

    US trainer Wesley Ward - We want The Everest Lady Aurelia is being aimed at The Everest. Photo: Royal Ascot
    Article Author

    Tom Baddock


    Leading American trainer Wesley Ward has revealed that the $13m https://www.racenet.com.au/the-everest" rel="nofollow - The Everest is at the forefront of his plans for sprinting sensations Lady Aurelia and Bound For Nowhere, that's despite the fact the two will be major competitors at Royal Ascot next month.

    The Florida based conditioner made his presence felt on the international stage for the first time in 2009, becoming the first US trainer to win a stakes race at the prestigious Royal https://www.racenet.com.au/tracks/wa/ascot" rel="nofollow - Ascot meeting and he now he has his sights set on the riches 'down under'.

    Lady Aurelia and Bound For Nowhere are set to return to England next month, headlining the American’s large team which is due to fly out from Kentucky on June 4.

    Lady Aurelia will be aiming to defend her crown in the Group I King's Stand Stakes (1000m) while Bound For Nowhere is due to contest the Group I Diamond Jubilee Stakes (1200m) after finishing fourth in the Commonwealth Cup last year and Ward says both races will act as a trial for The Everest (1200m).

    “The Everest is at the forefront of what we want to do,” Ward said.

    “I got a call from one the owners of Lady Aurelia, Barbara Banke (Stonestreet Farm) and she has her eye on it as well.

    “So both Lady Aurelia and Bound For Nowhere are definitely candidates.

    “I’ve got some great friends in Australia now, in Gai Waterhouse and https://www.racenet.com.au/jockey/blake-shinn" rel="nofollow - Blake Shinn – I’ve spent quite a bit of time with both of them and I’d really love to get down there to see your beautiful country – especially for that kind of money!”

    After a big push by the ATC last year to add some international horses to The Everest mix, it would be a massive coup to attract one of America’s leading stables to the race and would no doubt create a massive new wave of media interest.

    Lady Aurelia will be seeking her third win in as many years at Royal Ascot following her incredible seven-length romp to take out the Group II Queen Mary Stakes in 2016 and last year’s sprint triumph.

    Ward is extremely bullish about her chances again at Royal Ascot, although she was beaten first-up in the Listed Giant’s Causeway Stakes at Keenland.

    “I think she is going better than last year, I really do - even though she was beaten,” Ward said.

    “She has had a big break, all winter long like she did the year prior, and came into her first race back where we were confident and she was beaten.

    “But she is an older mare now and she’s getting heavier and I really think that race did her a lot of good. 

    “She’s really going to move forward from there.

    “I was looking at her today and she’s a bigger mare now than she was last year and she really dug deep and really put a lot of effort into that race when she got beat.

    “Even after the race, it kind of sucked her right down but now she has really put that weight back on and it really has bulked her up, kind of like a weight lifter.

    “I think she is really going to run the race of her life once she gets over to there, and that’s what she is going to need to do to win at Royal Ascot.”

    While Lady Aurelia’s best performances have been over five furlongs (1000m) she has proven effective over the six furlongs (1200m) in France, the distance of The Everest.

    “Lady Aurelia has been out to six furlongs in the Prix Morny,” Ward said.

    “As convincing as she was in winning the Queen Mary (1000m) she wasn’t as convincing in the Morny at six furlongs but that was as a two-year-old and that was coming off a big performance where she may have bounced a little bit.

    “From what I gather from Australian racing it isn’t like Royal Ascot where it is a really stiff six furlongs.”

    While Lady Aurelia has the better credentials, Bound For Nowhere is a sprinter on the rise.

    The son of The Factor finished fourth in last year’s Group I Commonwealth Cup (1200m) at Royal Ascot behind top line three-year-olds Caravaggio, Harry Angel and Blue Point at just his third career start.

    He returned with a dominant performance in the Grade II Shakertown (1100m) at Keenland last month, careering away to score by close to five lengths.

    “I think he was bit unseasoned when we went over last year, he had only had two runs and now that he’s got the seasoning underneath him and he’s got that explosive race in him I think he's going to run a big race.

    “I think he will get out to a mile eventually and at Royal Ascot you really do need a true miler to get the six furlongs.

    “I won it a few years back with Undrafted who certainly got a mile very easily.”

    Lady Aurelia is currently the $4.50 second favourite for the Group I King Stand Stakes behind Battaash at $4 while Bound For Nowhere is quoted at $17 in the Diamond Jubilee.

    Early markets on The Everest have Lady Aurelia at $21 while Bound For Nowhere is currently unquoted however that would no doubt change with a winning performance at Royal Ascot.



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    Posted By: djebel
    Date Posted: 21 May 2018 at 4:26pm
    She is a mare and everybody has told us in the Winx story that it is just too dangerous for mares.............

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    Posted By: djebel
    Date Posted: 22 May 2018 at 3:28pm
    The Tin Man



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    Posted By: Tlazolteotl
    Date Posted: 22 May 2018 at 3:42pm
    Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

    She is a mare and everybody has told us in the Winx story that it is just too dangerous for mares.............


    4YO mare with 9 starts
    6YO mare with 35 starts


    Posted By: Gay3
    Date Posted: 22 May 2018 at 4:19pm
    AND she hasn't made it here, run in the race or won it yet.


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    Posted By: djebel
    Date Posted: 22 May 2018 at 4:23pm
    I hope she comes and runs to her best. Her best may not be good enough.

    Winx could have gone to England and run 6 lengths below her best and still beaten the best milers they have up there at the moment.




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    Posted By: Sneck
    Date Posted: 22 May 2018 at 7:04pm
    Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

    She is a mare and everybody has told us in the Winx story that it is just too dangerous for mares.............
    No, I said the cost benefit isn't there to justify it for Winx. I wouldn't take a more who is dominating Australian WFA races and breaking prizemoney records to Europe.
    This is a different case.


    Posted By: djebel
    Date Posted: 05 Jun 2018 at 2:09pm

    Waller and Weir combine for Brave Smash's Everest bid


    The two biggest stables in Australian racing will combine for a bid at The Everest with Chris Waller Racing securing Brave Smash for its slot in October's $13 million showcase.

    The Darren Weir-trained Japanese import ran third in the inaugural running of The Everest, in the Australian Turf Club slot, and becomes the second sprinter to change slot holders following the lead of  Everest champion Redzel.

    Australian Bloodstock, the managing owner of Brave Smash, and Waller Racing came to terms on Monday.

    “The Everest has captured the attention of the entire world. We are in a very fortunate position to hold a slot and be in a position to showcase the stable’s best sprinter when the time is right,” Waller said.

    “However when the opportunity comes to have a horse of the calibre of Brave Smash to represent the slot for my shareholders, it was a straight-forward decision.


    “We have a horse which has been proven in the best company of sprinters since arriving in Australia a little over 12 months ago and I have a huge amount of respect for Australian Bloodstock which are industry leaders in targeting and importing tried international horses”.

    Australian Bloodstock’s Jamie Lovett was delighted to get Brave Smash back into The Everest and feels he is a better chance of success this year.

    “We feel that Brave Smash deserves another shot at the Everest. This year he is a group 1 winner, with form around the best sprinters in the world,” Lovett said.

    “Darren Weir was very keen to secure a slot early this year and target the race. To be given the opportunity to represent Hall of Fame trainer Chris Waller and his partners in their slot is a huge thrill.

    “The Everest race has already captured the attention of trainers and connections all over the world. It is something that our connections are very keen to be part of. We are very thankful and excited to now have that chance again”.

    Meanwhile, Waller has decided to give Youngstar the chance to become the fifth filly to complete the Queensland Oaks-Derby double.

    “Youngstar has pulled up well following her win the group 1 Queensland Oaks and the decision has been made to push on to group 1 Queensland Derby,” Waller said in a statement.

    “We will continue to monitor her progress up until Saturday morning as I have been mindful of not overtaxing her, however I was very happy with her gallop this morning and she continues to handle her time in Queensland exceptionally well.”

    Queensland Oaks runner-up Another Dollar has been spelled.



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    Posted By: djebel
    Date Posted: 05 Jun 2018 at 2:10pm
    Jamie Lovett must have the most amazing negotiating skills.

    Waller WTF ?




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    Posted By: Speediskey
    Date Posted: 05 Jun 2018 at 3:22pm
    You do realise Waller doesn’t actually own the slot yeah? His clients own the majority of it. Fairly sure winx’s owners have a fair portion of it.


    Posted By: linghi11
    Date Posted: 05 Jun 2018 at 3:23pm
    Wouldn’t you string your many owners along for a bit in case you actually have a decent sprinter among the hundreds of horses in your own stable? It’s not like BS has any chance.

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    Posted By: Prince of Penzance
    Date Posted: 05 Jun 2018 at 3:24pm
    Pretty sure the Winx team put up the money for the slot in case she ran in it


    Posted By: djebel
    Date Posted: 05 Jun 2018 at 3:30pm
    Originally posted by Speediskey Speediskey wrote:

    You do realise Waller doesn’t actually own the slot yeah? His clients own the majority of it. Fairly sure winx’s owners have a fair portion of it.

    Whoever owns the slot - WTF are they thinking ?




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    Posted By: early4lunch
    Date Posted: 05 Jun 2018 at 4:35pm
    I'm sick of the Everest already...and months to go yet.


    Posted By: djebel
    Date Posted: 05 Jun 2018 at 4:36pm
    Originally posted by early4lunch early4lunch wrote:

    I'm sick of the Everest already...and months to go yet.

    The Melbourne Cup Trophy tour started yesterday. What a load of gelati that is.




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    Posted By: Carioca
    Date Posted: 05 Jun 2018 at 4:52pm
    Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

    Originally posted by early4lunch early4lunch wrote:

    I'm sick of the Everest already...and months to go yet.


    The Melbourne Cup Trophy tour started yesterday. What a load of gelati that is.



    You are very negative today djebel, may I suggest you find a Good book or go to bed with someone who has just read one.


    Posted By: djebel
    Date Posted: 05 Jun 2018 at 4:58pm
    Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

    Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

    Originally posted by early4lunch early4lunch wrote:

    I'm sick of the Everest already...and months to go yet.


    The Melbourne Cup Trophy tour started yesterday. What a load of gelati that is.



    You are very negative today djebel, may I suggest you find a Good book or go to bed with someone who has just read one.

    Beer


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    Posted By: 3blindmice
    Date Posted: 05 Jun 2018 at 5:11pm
    Most of us gave BS none last year when he wasn't specifically trained for it. He might not be top pick but I wouldn't put him near the bottom either at this point.


    Posted By: djebel
    Date Posted: 06 Jun 2018 at 9:20pm
    Care of Twitter.

    The Everest: 1. Trapeze Artist - Aquis 2. In Her Time - TAB 3. Redzel - Yu Long 4. Brave Smash - Chris Waller Vega Magic Menari Shoals Kementari Happy Clapper Redkirk Warrior Viddora Catchy English Max Whitby Coolmore Damion Flower Star City GPI Racing Inglis James Harron ATC


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    Posted By: djebel
    Date Posted: 06 Jun 2018 at 9:21pm
    Originally posted by 3blindmice 3blindmice wrote:

    Most of us gave BS none last year when he wasn't specifically trained for it. He might not be top pick but I wouldn't put him near the bottom either at this point.

    To me he is a go to as a last  resort.




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    Posted By: Speediskey
    Date Posted: 07 Jun 2018 at 12:29am
    Surely no one will give Redkirk Warrior a slot, horse goes terrible around a bend.


    Posted By: Speediskey
    Date Posted: 07 Jun 2018 at 12:30am
    Of the remaining horses I'd be well and truly chasing Kementari, looks a 1200m horse to me, think he'd fly first up in it.


    Posted By: djebel
    Date Posted: 07 Jun 2018 at 12:33am
    Originally posted by Speediskey Speediskey wrote:

    Of the remaining horses I'd be well and truly chasing Kementari, looks a 1200m horse to me, think he'd fly first up in it.

    Negotiate with Coolmore ? Big smile


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    Posted By: djebel
    Date Posted: 09 Jun 2018 at 9:14pm
    By Brad Gray

    At Royal Randwick

    First Stop Missile For Kementari
    James Cummings is excited to put his star galloper Kementari in The Everest shop window by kicking him off in the $200,000 G2 Missile Stakes (1200m) in early August. That’ll be followed by the G1 Memsie Stakes (1400m) at Caulfield.

    “Well, we don’t have a slot so I don’t waste too much time thinking about it. We just bring it up on the agenda every week and see how we are travelling but the critical thing is that the ball is in somebody else’s court there,” Cummings told Sky Sports Radio on Saturday morning.

    “I might have three,” Cummings laughed, “But for now I pick out the targets for my horses the way I would if the race wasn’t there and if they come along after the Memsie for Kementari, then we can sit down and discuss it.”

    “People know where were are at with it and it’s the cat and mouse game you see with everyone. There are a handful of people that have gone off early but there is something to be said for biding your time too.”

    Speaking of The Everest, did now three-time Group One winner Santa Ana Lane announce himself as a genuine contender in taking out the Stradbroke Handicap?



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    Posted By: Prince of Penzance
    Date Posted: 25 Jun 2018 at 6:17pm
    Mick Bell has asked the ATC to give him the slot for Jungle Edge


    Posted By: Hoffy95
    Date Posted: 26 Jun 2018 at 2:26pm
    Flower's slot gone to English 


    Posted By: Smoke and Mirrors
    Date Posted: 26 Jun 2018 at 3:13pm
    Looks like Nature Strip has a slot.
    Nothing announced yet but strong whispers

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    Posted By: SHOVHOG
    Date Posted: 26 Jun 2018 at 4:59pm
    If I had a slot I would be knocking down Ryan's door to get Menari. I'm staggered it hasn't got a slot and I mean staggered. It would give English windburn.

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    Posted By: 3blindmice
    Date Posted: 26 Jun 2018 at 5:21pm
    Totally agree. I'm flabbergasted that NS would be considered before at least a handful of others.


    Posted By: Tlazolteotl
    Date Posted: 26 Jun 2018 at 5:27pm
    Why is Menari form good form? Apart from him coming back from a wind operation.


    Posted By: Tlazolteotl
    Date Posted: 26 Jun 2018 at 5:29pm
    Looks like a 2 horse race to me- Kementari and Trapeze Artist.Shocked


    Posted By: 3blindmice
    Date Posted: 26 Jun 2018 at 5:40pm
    Menari smashed Kementari over 1200m in smart time Tlaz. K may have improved but there's nothing to say M won't have after his lay off. Plenty of horses have come back well from "wind ops", including the champ SYT


    Posted By: adolphus twirk
    Date Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 1:12am
    Will the Everest be a one hit wonder?? Seven slots up for grabs with no horses only 4 months out.


    Posted By: Speediskey
    Date Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 1:16am
    6 slots up for grabs. 

    Redzel
    Trapeze Artist
    In Her Time
    English
    Brave Smash
    Shoals


    Posted By: Speediskey
    Date Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 1:17am
    Originally posted by adolphus twirk adolphus twirk wrote:

    Will the Everest be a one hit wonder?? Seven slots up for grabs with no horses only 4 months out.

    Also theres a lot of horses that are very very likely to be getting a slot/going.

    Kementari
    Menari
    Nature Strip the most likely on that list.


    Posted By: 3blindmice
    Date Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 1:43am
    Pat Webster still holding hope for the big fella Happy Clapper also. I'm surprised he hasn't been locked away and I'd back him to run a drum. Loves Randwick. 


    Somewhat surpising also that no rising 3yo (Estijaab, Ohood, Sunight, El Dorado Dreaming) is being mentioned but I guess holders will only know how they've come up much closer to the date. Hayes filly did okay last year.




    Posted By: Mr Grieves
    Date Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 2:51am
    Santa Ana Lane deserves a spot.


    Posted By: Sir Gov
    Date Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 10:04am
    Originally posted by adolphus twirk adolphus twirk wrote:

    Will the Everest be a one hit wonder?? Seven slots up for grabs with no horses only 4 months out.

    No chance - talk that it will be worth $15m next year & finally have G1 status.

    Expect that there will be a few internationals next year - at a minimum 2.


    Posted By: Tlazolteotl
    Date Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 10:50am
    Originally posted by Sir Gov Sir Gov wrote:

    Originally posted by adolphus twirk adolphus twirk wrote:

    Will the Everest be a one hit wonder?? Seven slots up for grabs with no horses only 4 months out.

    No chance - talk that it will be worth $15m next year & finally have G1 status.

    Expect that there will be a few internationals next year - at a minimum 2.


    Why next year and not this year?


    Posted By: Tlazolteotl
    Date Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 11:11am
    I haven't been following this at all but I hear that the reason HK horses don't race in australia is quarantine problems. Can't something be done? If they get another Silent Witness will it race in the Everest?


    Posted By: Smoke and Mirrors
    Date Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 11:21am
    Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

    I haven't been following this at all but I hear that the reason HK horses don't race in australia is quarantine problems. Can't something be done? If they get another Silent Witness will it race in the Everest?


    They can come here no dramas, there’s issues with horses being allowed back into HK

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    Posted By: 3blindmice
    Date Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 2:28pm
    Rod Lyons owner of Nature Strip talks about his Flem win and Everest hope. He's backed it already apparently

    http://media.skyracing.com.au/POD/57/BGZ7T6.mp3" rel="nofollow - http://media.skyracing.com.au/POD/57/BGZ7T6.mp3


    Posted By: SHOVHOG
    Date Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 3:23pm
    There is a budding war for Menari apparently so there's 1 slot gone.

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    Posted By: SHOVHOG
    Date Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 3:24pm
    Originally posted by SHOVHOG SHOVHOG wrote:

    There is a budding war for Menari apparently so there's 1 slot gone.


    Bidding not budding.

    Ryan and the owners are holding out for the best deal.

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    Posted By: SHOVHOG
    Date Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 3:49pm
    Vega Magic will be first up in the bletchingly which promises to be a cracker of a race. I would be surprised if he didn't get a slot given he should have won last year.

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    Posted By: 3blindmice
    Date Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 4:02pm
    Originally posted by Smoke and Mirrors Smoke and Mirrors wrote:

    Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

    I haven't been following this at all but I hear that the reason HK horses don't race in australia is quarantine problems. Can't something be done? If they get another Silent Witness will it race in the Everest?


    They can come here no dramas, there’s issues with horses being allowed back into HK

    I think it's the other way around???. Au quarantine is worried about Chinese systems at a new station iirc


    Posted By: KFG
    Date Posted: 29 Jun 2018 at 12:28pm
    Its safer to wait to they have a run before locking in.
    Plenty of 3yr olds that could find lengths next prep.
    Watch the frenzy after the first lead up race.


    Posted By: Carioca
    Date Posted: 29 Jun 2018 at 2:23pm
    And Shoals is one imo fwiw.


    Posted By: 3blindmice
    Date Posted: 29 Jun 2018 at 5:48pm
    16/1 if you want it Carioca.
    Menari (not yet slotted) $34 boosted looks big overs


    Posted By: Carioca
    Date Posted: 29 Jun 2018 at 6:22pm
    Originally posted by 3blindmice 3blindmice wrote:

    16/1 if you want it Carioca.
    Menari (not yet slotted) $34 boosted looks big overs

    Thanks mate, I'm a bit taken with this filly, acts on any surface, pet distance , no problems l/h or r/h, seasoned traveller and dreadfully honest also a f/u specialist, to add a little spice to my post lol trained by the best of the freedmans to put a bridle on a horse in my humble opinion.


    Posted By: Mr Grieves
    Date Posted: 05 Jul 2018 at 6:19pm
    Originally posted by Mr Grieves Mr Grieves wrote:

    Santa Ana Lane deserves a spot.


    And has got one, Inglis


    Posted By: djebel
    Date Posted: 05 Jul 2018 at 6:20pm
    The race is not attracting anything inspiring. 




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    Posted By: robbo
    Date Posted: 05 Jul 2018 at 7:29pm
    Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

    The race is not attracting anything inspiring. 




    I agree, but what would inspire? Harry Angel? Bataash? A Japanese representative?

    I was thinking last night about the HK quarantine ban and, should it be lifted, whether an Ivictory or a Mr Stunning might be a chance? Probably moot at the moment.


    Posted By: djebel
    Date Posted: 05 Jul 2018 at 7:35pm
    Unfortunately it is a dull period in Australia for sprinters at the moment, If this sort of prize can not attract international participation it is failing.




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    Posted By: Carioca
    Date Posted: 05 Jul 2018 at 8:14pm
    I think you may be down playing it a bit djebel, there are a few there that could go to the UK or cross the channel and win in good company, don't forget we have had one oz horse go o/s this year winning G1 and G2, just saying.



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