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Topic: THE POSTAL VOTE/POLL
Posted By: RED HUNTER
Subject: THE POSTAL VOTE/POLL
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 11:12am
Why make it one issue

What about other issues that are too hard for them

ADD

EUTHANASIA QUESTION

REPUBLIC

GENE TECHNOLOGY RESTRICTIONS or otherwise

ROAL COMMISSION INTO BANKS

etc

Let's have 10 questions for them to vote for, on our(the PUBLIC) approval




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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 11:13am
Thumbs Up

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STRIKE WHILST THE IRON IS HOT

reductio ad absurdum

The richest man is not he who has the most, but he who needs the least.



Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 11:21am
Go to war against Nth Korea

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Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 12:00pm
Sterling idea, RED. But in reality, they are not interested in what you or I think. This post-out is just a stunt to keep Turnbull's party in one piece.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 12:04pm
When this postal vote takes place, if it takes place, is it simply a case of 50.1% of the vote going yes and the motion is passed ?

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STRIKE WHILST THE IRON IS HOT

reductio ad absurdum

The richest man is not he who has the most, but he who needs the least.



Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 12:11pm
Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

When this postal vote takes place, if it takes place, is it simply a case of 50.1% of the vote going yes and the motion is passed ?

No, no, and no. It is just an opinion poll that should have been outsourced to Roy Morgan for a tiny fraction of the cost.


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 12:22pm
Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

When this postal vote takes place, if it takes place, is it simply a case of 50.1% of the vote going yes and the motion is passed ?

Whatever the result, short of 75%+ one way or the other, cue the endless excuses on the theme of, it wasn't fair and doesn't prove anything.


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 12:24pm
Money down the drain. Small beer compared to some of the defence procurement fiascos, though.


Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 12:25pm
Waste of $122 million
Non binding poll isn't it?


Posted By: RED HUNTER
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 1:09pm
INSIDERS

Govt hoping for a 50% reply


Posted By: RED HUNTER
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 1:11pm
Case to HIGH COURT stopping it is SEPT 5 and 6

Letters to be posted about SEPT 13

and HC decision expected on the spot or within 24 hours of SEPT6


Posted By: RED HUNTER
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 1:13pm
INSIDERS

stated "CUNNING AS A FOX tactic"

If HC bans it...the LIBS say...."we tried"


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 3:43pm
Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Sterling idea, RED. But in reality, they are not interested in what you or I think. This post-out is just a stunt to keep Turnbull's party in one piece.
Clap

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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 4:06pm
Originally posted by Magnolian Khan Magnolian Khan wrote:

Waste of $122 million
Non binding poll isn't it?

Waste of money? Confused

... it's about what we pay in interest on our debt, every 6 hours!!!! 

... about 3 days wages for our Public Servants, pays for 3% of ONE submarine, or about 125 School Halls.

This is NOT a waste of money ... people don't have any real concept of what a waste of money really is in the hands of our representatives!!!Embarrassed

 
Only reason it would not not be binding is if the result is NO.

... he couldn't get a Republic, so Gay Marriage will be Malcolm's legacy ... and then, thankfully he will be gone.Big smile




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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!


Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 5:00pm
Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:





Gay Marriage will be Malcolm's legacy ... and then, thankfully he will be gone.Big smile




whi do you want to replace him?


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 5:08pm
Anyone except Bullgelati Bill will do!LOL 

... won't be Tony, Dutton appears to be the anointed one, and would probably do Ok - he reminds me of Paul Keating in some ways (without the searing sarcastic wit!), that was the last time I can recall voting ALP too. 

We experimented with a woman before, no need to make THAT mistake again!Wink 


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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 5:18pm
You never enjoyed experimenting with women, Doc ?


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 5:24pm
Come on max, let's not go there ... you'll have macca jumping in, waxing lyrical about some porno he watched with girl on girl action, which changed his whole attitude to Same Sex Marriage!

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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 7:10pm
Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Come on max, let's not go there ... you'll have macca jumping in, waxing lyrical about some porno he watched with girl on girl action, which changed his whole attitude to Same Sex Marriage!



Give me a go Doc. >>>    Surely you don't agree with these feminists stealing all the crumpet.

Won't be long before the bedroom will be like a Golf Course.

Fees will depend on whether your on the 1st or 2nd hole .

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Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 8:16pm
Have you seen them? ... they can steal of THAT they like!!!





... not like it was back in the good ole days!!!





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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 8:58pm
Dr E ..    Those 3 ladies had me back on anti Hypertension in quick time.
What a waste ,       >   How easily my prayers could be answered.

        VOTE NO

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Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 9:40pm
Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Magnolian Khan Magnolian Khan wrote:

Waste of $122 million
Non binding poll isn't it?

Waste of money? Confused

... it's about what we pay in interest on our debt, every 6 hours!!!! 

... about 3 days wages for our Public Servants, pays for 3% of ONE submarine, or about 125 School Halls.

This is NOT a waste of money ... people don't have any real concept of what a waste of money really is in the hands of our representatives!!!Embarrassed

 
Only reason it would not not be binding is if the result is NO.

... he couldn't get a Republic, so Gay Marriage will be Malcolm's legacy ... and then, thankfully he will be gone.Big smile




Well if it's not a waste of money. Perhaps they could transfer the cash to me and I will run the poll for half price

BSB 0393892
Account 94739387483737


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 10:08pm
You know what, that won't work with me, but you'd probably be a chance if you put it on a decent looking dodgy letterhead and wrote to the South Australian Government, and signed it Elon Musk!Thumbs Up

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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!


Posted By: cabosanlucas
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 10:42pm
LOL @ macca and doc


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2017 at 11:16am
https://twitter.com/jaredowens/status/895026424599388160" rel="nofollow - Bronwyn Bishop links same-sex marriage to polygamy, bestiality & killing of disabled children ( https://www.reddit.com/domain/twitter.com/" rel="nofollow - twitter.com )

submitted by https://www.reddit.com/user/electronicwhale" rel="nofollow - electronicwhale



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     LET PEACE REIGN
What does that mean ?


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2017 at 11:22am
Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

https://twitter.com/jaredowens/status/895026424599388160" rel="nofollow - Bronwyn Bishop links same-sex marriage to polygamy, bestiality & killing of disabled children ( https://www.reddit.com/domain/twitter.com/" rel="nofollow - twitter.com )

submitted by https://www.reddit.com/user/electronicwhale" rel="nofollow - electronicwhale


Somebody should make a complete list of all the reasons given during this campaign on why we should oppose marriage equality. It will be a long list and probably a full time job keeping up with them so I'm out. The anti's are endlessly inventive. I've read some absolute doosies in the Murdoch press and it's only just started.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2017 at 11:32am
They are trawling the Old Testament as we speak

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Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2017 at 2:12pm
Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

https://twitter.com/jaredowens/status/895026424599388160" rel="nofollow - Bronwyn Bishop links same-sex marriage to polygamy, bestiality & killing of disabled children ( https://www.reddit.com/domain/twitter.com/" rel="nofollow - twitter.com )

submitted by https://www.reddit.com/user/electronicwhale" rel="nofollow - electronicwhale


Somebody should make a complete list of all the reasons given during this campaign on why we should oppose marriage equality. It will be a long list and probably a full time job keeping up with them so I'm out. The anti's are endlessly inventive. I've read some absolute doosies in the Murdoch press and it's only just started.

The intolerant, violent, abusive LGBTI anarchists will ensure that there will be no factual discourse on the subject by anyone Ouch

Marxism at it's purest ... supported 100% by Bullgelati Bill and The Australian Labor Pedos. 

Same-sex marriage event off: threats to hotel staff

A ferocious campaign against Christian groups planning to meet on same-sex marriage has forced them to cancel the event at a major hotel next week, amid claims of physical threats from marriage-equality advocates.

The Accor Hotels group confirmed late yesterday that the function had been abandoned after a social media storm triggered phone calls that “rattled” employees and left the company concerned about the safety of staff and guests.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/samesex-marriage-event-off-threats-to-hotel-staff/news-story/d45bd0f9e9a774fc3e3d0741f176da13



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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2017 at 9:20pm
Betting agency Sportsbet reports heavy backing for the "No" proposition, though "Yes" remains favourite.


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2017 at 9:35pm
I'm not surprised at all max!

The intolerant Marxists of the LGBTQI movement love nothing more than abusing anyone who they merely perceive as not cheering for the Rainbow Flag ... not a recommenced way of winning their hearts and postal votes!!!Stern Smile

If these belligerent bullies of the left don't "get it" soon, they will push this vote to the right, just by pissing off more and more "don't cares" to the point that they will be motivated to vote NO.Embarrassed


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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2017 at 6:56pm
List of countries on the slippery slope Shocked


1 The Netherlands: April 1, 2001
2. Belgium: June 1, 2003

3. Spain: July 3, 2005
4. Canada: July 20, 2005

5. South Africa: November 30, 2006

6. Norway: January 1, 2009
7. Sweden: May 1, 2009

8. Portugal: June 5, 2010
9. Iceland: June 27, 2010
10. Argentina: July 22, 2010

11. Denmark: June 15,2012

12. Brazil: May 14, 2013
13. France: May 29, 2013
14. Uruguay: August 5, 2013
15. New Zealand: August 19, 2013
16. United Kingdom (England, Wales, Scotland) 2013
17. French Guiana: 2013

18. Luxembourg: June 18, 2014
19. Finland: November 28, 2014 (Note: Gay marriage will become legal in Finland from 2017 through a bill passed this year.)
12. Ireland: May 23, 2015
21. The United States (2015)
22. Greenland, an autonomous territory of Denmark (2015)



Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2017 at 7:00pm
Russia 2525


Posted By: cabosanlucas
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2017 at 8:11pm
what have been the poll results in the middle east?



Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2017 at 8:25pm
No Asian or Eastern European countries, Middle east, Africa, Oceania. Canada yet to join ?


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2017 at 8:35pm
Could have been voted on by the people , back in February.    But NO.
    labor & Greens wouldn't allow it .    They wanted a certain yes , with enough deviate Pollies there for a yes success.

Again this time, so we go to the postal mess .   BUT .   At least the people who are interested enough will make a peoples choice.
That's better than the queer pollies doing it.
   SO VOTE NO and put the pussy among the pigeons.

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Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2017 at 8:44pm
Marriage came into being as a stable social and legal platform to bring children into the world. It was never designed so people of the same gender could play footsy, without having people talk about it. I expect the "No" vote will at least run in the quinella.


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2017 at 8:58pm
Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Marriage came into being as a stable social and legal platform to bring children into the world. It was never designed so people of the same gender could play footsy, without having people talk about it. I expect the "No" vote will at least run in the quinella.


    be good to see NO win . Just for the blood that will be spilt by the Mardi Gras hoons.
    Good when it's over , one step closer to me not having to wear a balaclava when I visit the pig next door. ( I may be whales daddy ) I been going there for years.

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Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2017 at 9:16pm
this concerns me more than  who marries who. needs to be sorted first. this has been simmering for 200 years....ssm how long?

Second Melbourne council votes to cancel Australia Day ceremony and celebrations

 is marriage all its cracked up to be any way? if its a matter of property carve up, make a will!



Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2017 at 9:25pm
Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

this concerns me more than  who marries who. needs to be sorted first. this has been simmering for 200 years....ssm how long?<h1 ="__line" itemprop="line" style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-size: 2.25rem; line-height: 2.5rem; font-family: "Guardian Egyptian Web", "Guardian Text Egyptian Web", Georgia, serif; font-weight: normal; padding-top: 0.375rem; padding-bottom: 2.25rem; color: rgb51, 51, 51; font-variant-ligatures: common-ligatures;">Second Melbourne council votes to cancel Australia Day ceremony and celebrations</h1> is marriage all its cracked up to be any way? if its a matter of property carve up, make a will!



Your spot on Isaacs .

Men should be protected .   Marriage should be banned.

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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2017 at 9:27pm
Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

this concerns me more than  who marries who. needs to be sorted first. this has been simmering for 200 years....ssm how long?

Second Melbourne council votes to cancel Australia Day ceremony and celebrations

 is marriage all its cracked up to be any way? if its a matter of property carve up, make a will!


It is up to the National Government to promote Australia Day celebrations, Local Councils are irrelevant. 




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STRIKE WHILST THE IRON IS HOT

reductio ad absurdum

The richest man is not he who has the most, but he who needs the least.



Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 1:18am
Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

List of countries on the slippery slope Shocked


1 The Netherlands: April 1, 2001
2. Belgium: June 1, 2003

3. Spain: July 3, 2005
4. Canada: July 20, 2005

5. South Africa: November 30, 2006

6. Norway: January 1, 2009
7. Sweden: May 1, 2009

8. Portugal: June 5, 2010
9. Iceland: June 27, 2010
10. Argentina: July 22, 2010

11. Denmark: June 15,2012

12. Brazil: May 14, 2013
13. France: May 29, 2013
14. Uruguay: August 5, 2013
15. New Zealand: August 19, 2013
16. United Kingdom (England, Wales, Scotland) 2013
17. French Guiana: 2013

18. Luxembourg: June 18, 2014
19. Finland: November 28, 2014 (Note: Gay marriage will become legal in Finland from 2017 through a bill passed this year.)
12. Ireland: May 23, 2015
21. The United States (2015)
22. Greenland, an autonomous territory of Denmark (2015)


Haaaaahahaha ... Clap




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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 7:06am
Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Marriage came into being as a stable social and legal platform to bring children into the world. It was never designed so people of the same gender could play footsy, without having people talk about it. I expect the "No" vote will at least run in the quinella.

Marriage came into being as a way for men to secure their property.Wink


Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 8:01am
Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Marriage came into being as a stable social and legal platform to bring children into the world. It was never designed so people of the same gender could play footsy, without having people talk about it. I expect the "No" vote will at least run in the quinella.

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Marriage came into being as a way for men to secure their property.Wink


Not to mention the fact that a lot of people choose to get married with no intention or, for example in the case of seniors, no capacity to have children.


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 8:12am
dearie me, many men avoided marriage to protect their wealth from claims on it by the mothers of their children, and the children themselves. But the law has closed that gap with co-habitation laws, and child support laws. But still not under the cover of the more readily accessible Family Law Court. As a result marriage has much less importance as formerly. Seniors getting married, without any prospect of children, is not the main game, and never was. But don't feed me garbage about how the issue of children was not front and centre of the raison(s) d'etre of marriage, in all cultures, universally.


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 8:29am
Marriage has changed form many times over the ages. Polygamy was once the go for high-status men. We changed the rules. Child marriage was once all the rage- still is in some places- we changed the rules. Infertile marriages used to be dissolved. We changed the rules. Contraception in marriage used to be illegal. We changed the rules.

If indeed reproduction was the purpose of marriage we can change the rules. It is clearly not the purpose of many hetero marriages.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 8:39am
Can a couple marry in a church without a legal marriage licence under the marriage act?

Can a couple marry without using a church?

The religious aspect is a outdated appendage to the legal framework created around children's legal status, property rights and to some extent sexual control. 

Religion is being used less and less with 75% of marriages performed by civil celebrants according to last years census. Religion shouldn't have any influential say in this argument in an increasingly secular world imo 


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Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 8:54am
Can we come out of the closet now.

My Chihuahua is legally entitled to half the house.     We have been together over 13 years.

In her mind she owns the lot.

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Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 8:59am
Laws exist, or ought to exist, in the interests of a smoother functioning of society. That is the only test that should be applied to the wisdom of allowing gay marriage, and if that was a simple proposition, the debate would not be happening. I would say the watering down of the importance of marriage through laws governing property settlement, of long co-habiting, but unmarried people, together with child support laws that apply to all and sundry, is probably a bigger blow to the standing of marriage, than gay marriage is. It isn't that special, and that follows from the relaxation of divorce laws as well. Now gays will get to participate in the "fun" of legal intrusion into their relationships, and you wonder if a silent majority of them, or the smarter ones anyway, don't see it as a mixed blessing at best.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 9:06am
Watering down or being more inclusive?

This is just bringing excluded people into the current legal framework. It has no effect on people already covered. It is a rights issue. 

Failing out of touch religious bodies are trying to frame it as being about them, but it isn't, and their attitude just drives more people away from them than the droves already departing or not engaging religion.


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Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 9:16am
Watered down in comparison to its former legal standing, as the only arrangement that offered legal protection. Today people can't dodge responsibility, in theory at least, to the extent they once could, married or not. Back in the day, people would look askance at women having children "out of wedlock", and in many cases the taxpayer picked up the tab through "supporting mother benefits", That has changed considerably, too. And I agree it has nothing to do with religion. In fact, I seem to recall the man himself (JC) telling someone there was no marriage in the Kingdom of Heaven !


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 9:24am
Why should it only be different here, and because of the views of one major religion?

The US, UK Canada, France etc have legalised it, the Anglican church have gay bishops, archbishops, gay married clergy. 

Why should the majority view be over ridden by the views of a minority group, the Catholic Church, because of their powerful political influence?


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Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 9:38am
We have yet to find out what the majority view is, and won't as a result of the "Clayton's" poll.


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 9:40am
It should have been placed in the hands of Roy Morgan, for a whole lot less $, or done properly, but the stuff-up experts in Canberra have denied us that option.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 9:47am
Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

We have yet to find out what the majority view is, and won't as a result of the "Clayton's" poll.

That is the whole point

It should have been a binding referendum with a simple yes or no question on the HOR ballot paper at last years  federal election. Again it wasn't because it is designed to get a situation that can fail


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Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 9:49am
I am quite happy for it to be in a form that can fail. Or succeed ! SO long as it is clear, and the result binding.


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 9:52am
PT,Let's change the gun laws too ... "why should it only be different here"Embarrassed

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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 9:54am
We aren't

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Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 9:59am
Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Can we come out of the closet now.

My Chihuahua is legally entitled to half the house.     We have been together over 13 years.

In her mind she owns the lot.

I heard a horrible, but true story, about a woman who was almost expired, leaving her estate to a neighbour, on condition he provide care and comfort to her beloved dog. Upon her death, and inheriting the money, he promptly took the dog to the pound, and in quick time, the bookies relieved him of the money. What a maggot !


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 10:07am
well we know you don't like dogs Max, how much money did you lose ?


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     LET PEACE REIGN
What does that mean ?


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 10:08am
Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

well we know you don't like dogs Max, how much money did you lose ?

A better question, how many times have you been banned here, and why do you keep slinking back ?


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 10:10am
that is all behind me Max, will be here to keep you company don't worry. Another question is why did you spit the dummy and disappear for almost a year and then come back, nobody missed you ?


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     LET PEACE REIGN
What does that mean ?


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 10:14am
How do you know who missed who ?


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 10:16am
Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

How do you know who missed who ?


I missed you
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwjE-fGNyOnVAhVTPrwKHWdkCpoQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.contentedtraveller.com%2Fkissing-around-the-world%2F&psig=AFQjCNFD7-4LVmcoiVV9Nfn5XVUmnpgrcg&ust=1503447385592416" rel="nofollow">Image result for kiss


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     LET PEACE REIGN
What does that mean ?


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 10:22am
I'm glad whale reformed his old ways of abusing people via PM's (apparently) and now just throws in the odd snide remark, generally without any reasonable basis !


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 10:38am
Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

I'm glad whale reformed his old ways of abusing people via PM's (apparently) and now just throws in the odd snide remark, generally without any reasonable basis !


how do you know, did I PM you ?  I did PM LR80, fell for the provocation of that piece of garbage and was suspended, but guess what, I am here and he isn't LOL


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     LET PEACE REIGN
What does that mean ?


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 10:41am
Good to see you stopped taking the bait, but unfortunately now seem to prefer to lay the bait ! It's a process, I suppose, one step at a time.


Posted By: cabosanlucas
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 2:13pm
When are the letters being sent out?


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 2:26pm
Mid-September, subject to any court challenges. The gay marriage proponents are off to a flying start, with "stop the fags" posters being plastered around Melbourne, I hope that isn't clever, clandestine reverse psychology advertising, but it does nothing for the "NO" case, to have that crudity being used.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 2:49pm
Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Mid-September, subject to any court challenges. The gay marriage proponents are off to a flying start, with "stop the fags" posters being plastered around Melbourne, I hope that isn't clever, clandestine reverse psychology advertising, but it does nothing for the "NO" case, to have that crudity being used.

Be careful quoting Lyle Shelton from the Australian Christian Lobby max. He is not very Christian at all.


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Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 2:50pm
I wasn't aware I was quoting anyone ?


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 2:57pm
In response, the ACL leader said the controversial image "obviously doesn't come from us," and said the posters may have been planted on purpose by same-sex marriage advocates looking to critique  http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2017/08/07/turnbull-will-vote-yes-on-a-plebiscite-but-has-many-other-calls_a_23069592/" rel="nofollow - the idea of a "respectful debate" .

The poster in question is headed by the screaming headline "STOP THE FAGS" and  http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2017/08/20/these-nazi-homophobic-posters-arent-just-vile-but-totally-false_a_23155271/?utm_hp_ref=au-homepage" rel="nofollow - pictures a young child cowering  before two rainbow-coloured belts, seemingly about to be punished.

"I don't know who put that poster up. I can't imagine anyone from our side would do that. It may have even come from people wanting to prove the sort of point you're making [Waleed]," he said.

"I know the people on our side of the debate and we're not like that and nor would we be like that.



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Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 3:01pm
I plead complete ignorance of that chap or the statement. But it does seem like a very counter-productive act by that serial nuisance " Bill Stickers" if wanting a "no" vote.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 3:05pm
It took me 30sec to find those posters posted on a European nazi websites 6 months ago and that the name on the bottom of the poster owning it is a very well known nazi site

Is Lyle or his organisation really that dim, or is he being deliberately deceptive?


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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 3:09pm
http://fuhrerious88blog.wordpress.com/2017/03/30/stop-the-fags/" rel="nofollow - http://fuhrerious88blog.wordpress.com/2017/03/30/stop-the-fags/

http://ironmarch.org/" rel="nofollow - http://ironmarch.org/


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Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 3:16pm
Stop peddling the sites on your favourites list !


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 3:24pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

It took me 30sec to find those posters posted on a European nazi websites 6 months ago and that the name on the bottom of the poster owning it is a very well known nazi site

Is Lyle or his organisation really that dim, or is he being deliberately deceptive?

I have no idea. But it isn't implausible that it might be not what it appears at first glance. It certainly occurred to me without having any knowledge Of Lyle or his statement. Unless someone is caught in the act of posting them, and their antecedents examined.


Posted By: ExceedAndExcel
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 3:28pm
Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

that is all behind me Max, will be here to keep you company don't worry. Another question is why did you spit the dummy and disappear for almost a year and then come back, nobody missed you ?




Unfortunately it's all hidden now but I still have a few of his lovely private messages saved for whenever I want a chuckle. To summarise Max spat the dummy after I mentioned that I knew about the messages he was sending people begging them not to converse with me.


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 3:41pm
Not at all, E & E, I thought it a good time for a spell when I heard the Mayor wanted to install you as a moderator, fortunately he seemed to come to his senses and decided against it !


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 4:08pm
Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

that is all behind me Max, will be here to keep you company don't worry. Another question is why did you spit the dummy and disappear for almost a year and then come back, nobody missed you ?




Unfortunately it's all hidden now but I still have a few of his lovely private messages saved for whenever I want a chuckle. To summarise Max spat the dummy after I mentioned that I knew about the messages he was sending people begging them not to converse with me.


LMAO, Saint Max is not so saintly. I mean I sent maybe 3 emails responding to deliberate provocation and racism, but how petty can some people be Confused


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Posted By: cabosanlucas
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 4:14pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

http://fuhrerious88blog.wordpress.com/2017/03/30/stop-the-fags/" rel="nofollow - http://fuhrerious88blog.wordpress.com/2017/03/30/stop-the-fags/

http://ironmarch.org/" rel="nofollow - http://ironmarch.org/


an anti-smoking campaign and you sjw still want to bag it.

fair dinkum....


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 4:27pm
Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

that is all behind me Max, will be here to keep you company don't worry. Another question is why did you spit the dummy and disappear for almost a year and then come back, nobody missed you ?


That's not all that will be behind you if this Postal Vote gets a YES.

You behave like a real left footer.

We all have things like maternity leave etc. on occasions Whale

Call it, going for a spell.

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Posted By: ExceedAndExcel
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 5:23pm
Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Not at all, E & E, I thought it a good time for a spell when I heard the Mayor wanted to install you as a moderator, fortunately he seemed to come to his senses and decided against it !



Why would the Mayor want to install someone he has had virtually zero interaction with as moderator? Your delusions haven't subsided it seems.

You being caught out begging people not to talk to me is one of he all time classics!


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 5:31pm
Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Not at all, E & E, I thought it a good time for a spell when I heard the Mayor wanted to install you as a moderator, fortunately he seemed to come to his senses and decided against it !



Why would the Mayor want to install someone he has had virtually zero interaction with as moderator? Your delusions haven't subsided it seems.

You being caught out begging people not to talk to me is one of he all time classics!

I'll have to dig out those messages, and others can see you for the liar you are.


Posted By: ExceedAndExcel
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 5:41pm
Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Not at all, E & E, I thought it a good time for a spell when I heard the Mayor wanted to install you as a moderator, fortunately he seemed to come to his senses and decided against it !



Why would the Mayor want to install someone he has had virtually zero interaction with as moderator? Your delusions haven't subsided it seems.

You being caught out begging people not to talk to me is one of he all time classics!

I'll have to dig out those messages, and others can see you for the liar you are.



By all means dig them out. Will be great to share the laughs.


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 5:58pm
I've been in " Moderator " school for many years now .
I still need time to graduate as I have more on my list to ban than is coming on line .

   I didn't Ban acacia alba but do miss her dulcet tones ...
JJ is on probation .     and I must not forget JoH.   My favourite .
What a lovely, kind lady .    Built like a centurion tank but a softie underneath .
    SHHHH    Don't tell anyone .. or misinterpret "underneath"
( whale won't work all that out )

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Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 6:28pm
Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Not at all, E & E, I thought it a good time for a spell when I heard the Mayor wanted to install you as a moderator, fortunately he seemed to come to his senses and decided against it !



Why would the Mayor want to install someone he has had virtually zero interaction with as moderator? Your delusions haven't subsided it seems.

You being caught out begging people not to talk to me is one of he all time classics!

I'll have to dig out those messages, and others can see you for the liar you are.



By all means dig them out. Will be great to share the laughs.


Bear in mind this was "advice" given to people, including a couple who were fairly new to the site, who were set upon by you-know-who.....and I confess I didn't follow my own advice to the letter.....but the "begging" just isn't there. And a couple had worse to say about E&E than me !

Bloke finishes up giving everyone the sh1ts, best policy is to totally ignore the twat. Wink







Lovely bloke he ain't. Everyone offended by him should do as I do, totally ignore it.










Do yourself a favour ( no, I'm not Molly Meldrum) Tongue and do not respond to this individual, Excrete and Expel. The only person here I have a life ban on, obnoxious beyond words, you demean yourself answering "its" bile.



I have this bloke as 100% to be ignored, take no notice of him.   


Posted By: ExceedAndExcel
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 6:36pm
Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Not at all, E & E, I thought it a good time for a spell when I heard the Mayor wanted to install you as a moderator, fortunately he seemed to come to his senses and decided against it !



Why would the Mayor want to install someone he has had virtually zero interaction with as moderator? Your delusions haven't subsided it seems.

You being caught out begging people not to talk to me is one of he all time classics!

I'll have to dig out those messages, and others can see you for the liar you are.



By all means dig them out. Will be great to share the laughs.


Bear in mind this was "advice" given to people, including a couple who were fairly new to the site, who were set upon by you-know-who.....and I confess I didn't follow my own advice to the letter.....but the "begging" just isn't there. And a couple had worse to say about E&E than me !

Bloke finishes up giving everyone the sh1ts, best policy is to totally ignore the twat. Wink







Lovely bloke he ain't. Everyone offended by him should do as I do, totally ignore it.










Do yourself a favour ( no, I'm not Molly Meldrum) Tongue and do not respond to this individual, Excrete and Expel. The only person here I have a life ban on, obnoxious beyond words, you demean yourself answering "its" bile.



I have this bloke as 100% to be ignored, take no notice of him.   







And yet the recipients of your messages were kind enough to forward them on to me. Yep, really sounds like they agreed with you.

Bottom line is you hoped to get more people to join you in ignoring me. Call if you you like, I'll call it begging.


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 6:36pm
....and I am going to revert to that very sound advice, as of this post. Ta-ta Mr would-be moderator.


Posted By: ExceedAndExcel
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 6:39pm
Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

....and I am going to revert to that very sound advice, as of this post. Ta-ta Mr would-be moderator.



Cya later. Hope you have more success begging next time.


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 6:39pm
Guys, now you've got that out of your systems, could you please return to the topic title- or at least make an attempt, if this damned server will allow it Angry


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Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 6:46pm
The site is so slow for me .

I am enjoying the good - natured LOL   to and fro


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What does that mean ?


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 6:58pm
Yes it's been shocking lately! ... need to get those hamsters working harder! ... not this one.





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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 7:01pm
Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

Guys, now you've got that out of your systems, could you please return to the topic title- or at least make an attempt, if this damned server will allow it Angry

No problems, either getting back on topic, or with the speed of the site, haven't noticed anything.


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 7:45pm
Must be my system or NBN tho' it is only TBV Unhappy


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Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 9:41pm
No problems here with speed or site .

   Love the banter .    I would go mad if Whale wasn't about for education purposes.

What bluddy fool put a P in front of neumonia.     or stuffed up the spelling of that famous asthma treatment   aminophyyline .

C'mon Whale = Explain

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Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 9:53am
has the question been asked,
why didnt Rudd or Gillard introduce ssm, or why not leave it to the next labor government to bring in ssm....or is that too far away?

libs, you should have ignored this issue and let labor deal with it.


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 10:03am
Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

has the question been asked,
why didnt Rudd or Gillard introduce ssm, or why not leave it to the next labor government to bring in ssm....or is that too far away?

libs, you should have ignored this issue and let labor deal with it.

gillard was against it, just cos- didn't have a reason but against it. Now the spectacular hypocrite is for it.

Rudd the same- against it while in power- for it after- how convenient- spectacular hypocrite.


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 10:03am
Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

has the question been asked,
why didnt Rudd or Gillard introduce ssm, or why not leave it to the next labor government to bring in ssm....or is that too far away?

libs, you should have ignored this issue and let labor deal with it.


Easy one Isaac .

THERE WILL BE NO LABOR IN SAME SEX MARRIAGES

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Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 10:15am
Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

has the question been asked,
why didnt Rudd or Gillard introduce ssm, or why not leave it to the next labor government to bring in ssm....or is that too far away?

libs, you should have ignored this issue and let labor deal with it.

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gillard was against it, just cos- didn't have a reason but against it. Now the spectacular hypocrite is for it.

Rudd the same- against it while in power- for it after- how convenient- spectacular hypocrite.

They wave this way or that, according to which way the breeze is blowing. That is not leadership. And it is not the preserve of Labor, plenty on the other side have had changes of mind. They flock like sheep. At least Abbott has maintained his attitude. Being seen as out of step with your fellows, is dangerous territory, socially and politically. That is how ideas that take hold, are re-inforced, by compliance of people to the principle of "safety in numbers"


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 10:30am
Not many in politics, particularly that most unprepossessing variant, the "career" politician, want to be seen as outliers. Stranded out there, you can become de-coupled from the safety of the crowd. Perhaps Abbott does stand on principle above popularity, or maybe just a captive of the past, and his Catholicism, or some combination of the above.



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