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Topic: Shoals
Posted By: Sunline
Subject: Shoals
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2017 at 1:52am
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Has anyone heard about plans for this filly in the spring? And what's the latest with Freedman? On what she did in three starts in her first prep as a 2yo, you'd have to think she's potentially a G1 filly if she can run a strong mile. Along with the Hayes trio of Catchy, Tulip and Formality, she's one to follow in everything she's in, and I'd expect she potentially has more improvement than most. ------------- Sunline...simply supreme |
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Posted By: tillyras
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2017 at 11:35am
| Can't see any trials or jumpouts this prep, listed as in work at Mornington |
Posted By: Hoffy95
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2017 at 11:46am
http://www.freedman.com.au/latestNews/shoals_returns_with_guineas" rel="nofollow - http://www.freedman.com.au/latestNews/shoals_returns_with_guineas Shoals returns with Guineas targets7th July, 2017 Unbeaten two-year-old filly Shoals has returned to the Pinecliff stable of Lee and Anthony Freedman in preparation for her spring campaign. Trainer’s Lee and Anthony Freedman have initially pencilled in the Group One Thousand Guineas at Caulfield as a spring target for the daughter of Fastnet Rock, early markets have her rated as an $11 second favourite. Shoals enjoyed a two-month spell following her impressive victory in the Group Two Percy Sykes Stakes over 1200 metres at Randwick during the Championships. “She has returned in terrific order, she has developed further during the break” Anthony said. “Like it is with all fillies, the aim during the spring will be to enhance her value and gain black-type for her owners (Jonathan Munz and Arrowfield Stud). Naturally the Thousand Guineas will be her initial target”. Shoals is currently rated a $11 second favourite in features markets for the Group One on October 14. Freedman said Foxwedge filly Petition has also returned to the stable a fortnight ago and would more than likely be aimed towards the feature mares races throughout the spring. “She has done extremely well during her break, she looks tremendous. “Her ultimate goal will be the Myer Classic during Cup week at Flemington, however we will assess her form before confirming our plans” Petition is rated a $15 chance in the Myer Classic with Sportsbet. Another spring prospect Mr Sneaky has also recently returned to the stable following his mishap at the barriers before the Scone Guineas. “He has improved with the break, we will continue to take him through the grades early in the spring but we expect him to be up to Group level” Freedman reported. |
Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2017 at 2:42pm
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Cheers, Hoff. ------------- Sunline...simply supreme |
Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2017 at 1:34am
 Unbeaten Shoals ready for SpringBen Asgari https://www.twitter.com/BenAsgariRacing" rel="nofollow - @BenAsgariRacing 12:37pm https://www.racing.com/news/2017-08-08/unbeaten-shoals-ready-for-spring#" rel="nofollow - Hall of Fame trainer https://www.racing.com/trainers/anthony-freedman" rel="nofollow - Lee Freedman couldn't be happier with the way unbeaten filly https://www.racing.com/horses/shoals" rel="nofollow - Shoals is progressing this preparation. Unbeaten in three starts, the daughter of Fastnet Rock was last seen recording a narrow victory on a wet track in the Percy Sykes Stakes (1200m) at Randwick in April. Freedman said a jumpout at Flemington on Friday would determine when Shoals resumes. "She may head to the Quezette Stakes (1100m) at Caulfield on Saturday week or we might wait another week but we'll just see how she trials," Freedman said. "She's in great condition. She had a wonderful spell up at Arrowfield in Scone and we're really looking forward to getting her back to the races. "We looked after her during the autumn and she showed enormous talent and we're hoping she can improve on that. "Obviously the Thousand Guineas will be the race for her against her own age and sex, the way she knuckled down on that Heavy track at Randwick over 1200 suggests that 1400m would be no problem and it wouldn't be too much of a stretch getting to 1600m with her." Freedman said https://www.racing.com/horses/santa-ana-lane" rel="nofollow - Santa Ana Lane , a late scratching from last Sunday's Bletchingly Stakes due to the Heavy track, would likely have his next start in Saturday week's Regal Roller Stakes (1200m) at Caulfield. "Between the high winds the week before and the Heavy track last weekend we've lost our way with him a little bit but he should be fine," he said. "He'll have a top-up jumpout at Flemington this Friday and then he'll probably head to the Regal Roller." ------------- Sunline...simply supreme |
Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 7:56pm
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Resumes on Saturday at Caulfield. ------------- Sunline...simply supreme |
Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 8:05pm
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Just realised she's out of a half-sister to Redoute's Choice! ------------- Sunline...simply supreme |
Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 8:06pm
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Posted By: 3blindmice
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2017 at 2:33pm
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Can't find it now but there was aLee Freedman interview on r.com recently in which he discusses Shoals. Summary here: http://www.freedman.com.au/latestNews/unbeaten_shoals_ready_for_spring" rel="nofollow - http://www.freedman.com.au/latestNews/unbeaten_shoals_ready_for_spring
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Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2017 at 11:36am
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On at $8 all-in and, for mine, one of the bets of the weekend at that price. I also had a secondary all-in bet on Roomooz which has now been lost, and would have preferred to have her in and running for me as well, but won't be giving back my Shoals bet. She concedes race fitness and a touch of weight, but she has laps on this field in class. Look at what Formality has done this prep and remember that Shoals have her a start and a beating at the end of her first prep. She should have come on from that - which she looks to have done from her trial - and I think can afford to be a little soft and still win here. Should stalk Sanadaat and reel her in when it counts. Serious Thousand Guineas chance. ------------- Sunline...simply supreme |
Posted By: The Stallion
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2017 at 1:24pm
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Sanadaat will give her a good run for her money.. I think she is a very talented horse and we know she has come back well. I can't split them personally. ------------- That's the smell of victory, you can't wash that out. |
Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2017 at 6:14pm
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The market is very strong for Sanadaat which has surprised me. I'm a fan of Sanadaat - backed her last start and took $41 in the Thousand Guineas - and I concede she will be tough to run down, but I think Shoals has a lap on her in class. She was gunning down Formality at the end of last prep and Sanadaat wouldn't beat Formality. I think the market support for Sanadaat is mostly due to the speed map and Moonee Valley, and they're expecting it will get away with a few cheapies and pinch the race at the 800m with Shoals needing the run and running out of straight to catch Sanadaat with the weight pull. I've decided to save on Sanadaat because my potential return on Shoals is quite large and I'm exposed with no save, so would be silly not to save on the one that the market and map says is the main danger. Still confident Shoals wins. ------------- Sunline...simply supreme |
Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2017 at 5:25pm
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Only thing that beats her is The trainer Not a fan |
Posted By: scamanda
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2017 at 5:46pm
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Still unbeaten. Great ride Zahra. He's in great form today. ------------- I started with nothing and still have most of it left |
Posted By: Straight Connector
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2017 at 8:55pm
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The drift made me hesitant and unfortunately affected my stake as EW odds were available, but she did it well and was one of few highlights for me today. One to follow, good to see a 3yo filly kick on. The Formality formline is strong. |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2017 at 3:46pm
| I think she can beat Catchy today |
Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2017 at 9:50pm
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Very nice run today. I got stuck into the early $2.75 the place that TAB put up and she got there. She'll be third up and out to a mile in the Thousand Guineas and that should line up for a big performance from this filly. The others around her were fitter, and I doubt Booker runs out a strong mile, so I'm happy to be with her at $16 in the Guineas. ------------- Sunline...simply supreme |
Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2017 at 8:59pm
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Why is she $13 in the Myer Classic with the TAB? Ran 2nd to a superstar in the Thousand Guineas. What price Aloisia in the Myer? Will drop to 50kg and profiles well given 3yo I Am A Star sat on speed and won it last year. That was a weak renewal (French Emotion 2nd) and this is an open race with far greater depth, but the point is $13 is surely much better than what she SPs with her formline? I've backed a few in the race - Global Glamour $9, Petition $13 and a save bet Dixie Blossoms $9 - but I'm happy to take $13 Shoals and will be surprised if double figures is available SP. ------------- Sunline...simply supreme |
Posted By: VPI
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2017 at 9:27pm
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I had to take the $13 e/w as well with the light weight. ------------- @value_punter |
Posted By: 3blindmice
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2017 at 10:32pm
| As some analysts said when assessing the Vase, Aloisia was only second up in that race and beat horses which probably had no improvement left. She undoubtedly improved considerably on Sat so some caution wrt the form line is needed. Think the older mares will test her - GG, SS and Foxplay esp. Heavens Above was a "certainty beaten" (lol) in this race last year and is the best outsider IF Goodie doesn't stuff the track again. Looks a SUPER race on paper, one which bookies should be able to make a proper book and win no matter what. |
Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2017 at 10:57pm
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Hope we took the $13. ------------- Sunline...simply supreme |
Posted By: JoanFerguson
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 3:09pm
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Rolling in the $$$$$$$13 I love Dean Yendall |
Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 3:10pm
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Woohoo!!! God bless her. ------------- Sunline...simply supreme |
Posted By: scamanda
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 3:10pm
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Is this where all the big winners are hanging out? Looks like it. Well done guys. ------------- I started with nothing and still have most of it left |
Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 3:16pm
| Well done lads. What a good filly. |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 3:24pm
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Wonder how many group 1 winners are out of million dollar yearlings ? Pretty sure the mum bought big bucks at the sales. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 3:38pm
Congrats guys  ------------- Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise |
Posted By: 3blindmice
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 3:49pm
| Good job chaps. Doubt bookies made much there somehow. |
Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2018 at 5:39pm
| Let her go around at 13s without me. What a very good filly. |
Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2018 at 5:40pm
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Same :(. ------------- Sunline...simply supreme |
Posted By: lulu
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2018 at 11:10am
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Just highlights how stiff Booker was in the Oakleigh Plate. ------------- You're either Einstein or Frankenstein in this game. |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 5:07pm
| Disappointing news that dual Group 1 winner SHOALS may not race again due to damage to a vein in her neck whilst receiving treatment after her last win the Surround Stakes. Upcoming races that were on the agenda the Arrowfield Sprint and the Robert Sangster Stakes appear to be unlikely now. She also won the Group 1 Myer Classic in the Spring. |
Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 5:09pm
| WTF......you gotta be kidding!! |
Posted By: Mr Grieves
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2018 at 6:12pm
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Still heading to Adelaide for the Sangster if ready, otherwise the Goodwood two weeks later. Then to the Golden Jubilee |
Posted By: 3blindmice
Date Posted: 01 May 2018 at 12:20pm
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From 'may never race again' to the Sangster and possibly Ascot in the space of a couple of months http://www.racing.com/news/2018-04-23/shoals-on-path-to-royal-ascot" rel="nofollow - https://www.racing.com/news/2018-04-23/shoals-on-path-to-royal-ascot
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Posted By: Xavier
Date Posted: 01 May 2018 at 12:29pm
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No chance in either race ------------- Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes |
Posted By: Xavier
Date Posted: 05 May 2018 at 6:41pm
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Well I buggered that up. 10 starts, 7 wins - 3 Group 1’s See ya in Ascot  ------------- Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes |
Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 05 May 2018 at 6:50pm
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I think the 1200m at Ascot is ideal. One of the most underrated fillies of modern times, and yes including myself in that group! If I had a slot in the Everest I could do worse than seek her as my representative! ------------- Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise |
Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 05 May 2018 at 7:04pm
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What a filly. Absolute star! ------------- Sunline...simply supreme |
Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 05 May 2018 at 7:31pm
I just catch shoals or catchy despite b@cking the constantly 
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Posted By: BlackKnight
Date Posted: 05 May 2018 at 9:13pm
Can't be backing Shoals too "constantly" given she's won 7 out of 10.
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Shrunk in the Wash wrote:Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 05 May 2018 at 10:21pm
Well, despite my original poor typing it's pretty clear I said both horses Ive managed to find shoals in her 3 loses & catchy in her 5 most recent losses. They managed to win before or after I had those losses on them. Hence I can't catch them  |
Posted By: There off!
Date Posted: 06 May 2018 at 11:02am
| I can not believe the price it got to yesterday???? |
Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 06 May 2018 at 3:41pm
So True .. Had to be at least a saver |
Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 06 May 2018 at 8:09pm
| Double figures. And Egg Tart once again backed off the map. We’re a strange bunch, us punters. |
Posted By: tillyras
Date Posted: 08 May 2018 at 9:33am
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Looks like Munz and Messara have pulled the pin on Ascot. Possibly backing up in the Goodwood. Then will be spelled for a crack at the Everest. |
Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 08 May 2018 at 12:06pm
| A wise move imo, why on earth you would take the risk , 13 mill. on your doorstep and a float trip up the h/way, next year would give her a more even chance with the plans in place more concrete. |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 08 May 2018 at 12:08pm
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In this day and age there is virtually ZERO risk. 23 days. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 08 May 2018 at 12:41pm
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Not everything in racing is push button my friend, although from a keyboard it may appear so, they have thought about it and changed tack, ...now I wonder what. brought that about.
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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 08 May 2018 at 12:53pm
Are you serious ? The risks are endless. Just because it doesnt happen often, that dont mean there is no risk ! Remember Bart taking his good horse over for the Japan Cup and it almost died from travel sickness ? Just for starters . The list of things that can go wrong on long haul flights is as long as your arm. Why bother for p**s poor prize money ? ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: Smoke and Mirrors
Date Posted: 10 May 2018 at 5:45pm
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On the recommendation of trainer Anthony Freedman it’s been decided Shoals will head to the spelling paddock and won’t contest the Goodwood in Adelaide. @tabcomau to update market. ------------- "Go Hard or Go Home” |
Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 10 May 2018 at 6:55pm
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Sounds like Messara and Munz have a Everest slot lined up. ------------- Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 10 May 2018 at 7:11pm
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Her runs have been well spaced so it's likely she's not the most robust of fillies. If that's the case, a 2-week back up into the Goodwood may have presented a challenge to Freedman, whilst a long arduous trip to GB might not have been in the filly's best interests. So why not give her a good spell and target the Everest?
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Posted By: Smoke and Mirrors
Date Posted: 10 May 2018 at 8:25pm
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Question is, does she go to the Everest first up ------------- "Go Hard or Go Home” |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 10 May 2018 at 9:24pm
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Who knows, and is it really important? 1st Up: 4:3-0-0 2nd Up: 3:2-1-0
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Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2018 at 1:46am
| Still $10 available. Doesn't have to settle that far back. Very good horse. |
Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2018 at 11:16am
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Loves this mare. Was one of a few narrow losses for me on the punt yesterday, but I took $18 Everest in the run and I think she can win it. ------------- Sunline...simply supreme |
Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2018 at 12:10pm
| I'm on as well Sunny at 17s well before her valley run , I'm a big fan , she is so genuine and acts on All conditions, a bet to nothing e/w imo. |
Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2018 at 1:49pm
| Think the stablemate might still beat her. Just because I think the wind helped those coming out wide. THat said she is such an honest little mare that you'd love to own her. |
Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2018 at 3:13pm
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furious I thought she had more improvement in her out of yesterday than the stablemate. He will no doubt be hard to beat. ------------- Sunline...simply supreme |
Posted By: Speediskey
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2018 at 3:17pm
| May do, but Shoals has a great 1st/2nd up record. Santa Ana Lane tends to improve more into the rpep. |
Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2018 at 3:23pm
| Your more than likely right Sunline. I'm having a horrid run at the moment picking the winners! |
Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2018 at 4:08pm
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Speediskey very true. Furious we all have them! ------------- Sunline...simply supreme |
Posted By: Kingy
Date Posted: 10 Oct 2018 at 6:31pm
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Barrier 2. I wasn't a fan but having REDZEL is ideal. She can now let the speed go and camp in behind. She's had a great lead up to this and IMO is the horse to beat. GET IN!
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Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2019 at 7:31pm
| Group 1 winner Shoals to miss Oakleigh Plate after unsatisfactory blood test. |
Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2019 at 7:40pm
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Wise move , some nice races coming up for her, competition getting stronger , in This climate lol you need to be on top of your game.
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Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2019 at 10:49am
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Retired overnight & off to the breeding barn in the spring. Very handy filly/mare who was well placed by the stable, with all 7 of her wins in sex-restricted races. Just failed to measure up when raced in open company. |
Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2019 at 3:20pm
| Twice now she has failed to handle this Peat Bog that is Randwick after a little constant rain and she's not the first either, she will make a beautiful mum and I wish her well. |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2019 at 3:35pm
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Sam said on RSN y/day morning that she'd had a bruised foot post her previous run. They never improve quickly enough from bruises/abcesses to race a week later, imo. He also said the give in the track would help, leading me to think she was still feeling it. ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2019 at 3:57pm
Yet I believe she trialled after that run. 
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Posted By: ChrisB
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2019 at 4:03pm
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Had Shoals yesterday. Was disappointed as didn't let down at all. Happy retirement |