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Topic: How dumb are these Greens?
Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Subject: How dumb are these Greens?
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 2:29pm
Senate candidate application form

1 Are you a citizen of any other country but Australia?



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Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 2:33pm
How did he answer ?


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 2:36pm
Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

How did he answer ?

There is another one gone down today- Waters.LOL


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 2:40pm
They must be open to prosecution ? False declaration ?


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 2:48pm
They should check Sarah Hanson Young .    Would have to be from Pluto.

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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 2:48pm
But it's not only the senators themselves that are dimwits- why doesn't someone in the Parliament bureaucracy check these things? The Parliament could be full of double agents for all they know.


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 2:51pm
You have to produce birth certificates for many purposes, not sure why they don't impose that requirement.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 3:00pm
Sounds ambiguous. 

Are you a citizen of any other country?

Is that exclusively or as well as Australia?


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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 3:02pm
Duddon, hubris personified following announcement of his coming appointment as Minister for the new SuperDooper Department, is already moving to deport the vile pretenders.


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 3:04pm
I think the question covers all contingencies, other than sole Australian citizenship.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 3:09pm
The constitution disqualifies potential candidates from election if they hold dual or plural citizenship

The former Queensland senator was tearful when she apologised to her constituents for her oversight.

In a statement, Ms Waters said she had not visited Canada since leaving as a baby and believed she had naturalised to Australia.

She sought legal advice after Mr Ludlam's resignation and said she was shocked and saddened by the result.

"I was devastated to learn that because of 70-year-old Canadian laws I had been a dual citizen from birth, and that Canadian law changed a week after I was born and required me to have actively renounced Canadian citizenship," she said.

"It is with a heavy heart that I am forced to resign as senator for Queensland and co-deputy leader of the Australian Greens, effective today.



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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 3:10pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

The constitution disqualifies potential candidates from election if they hold dual or plural citizenship

The former Queensland senator was tearful when she apologised to her constituents for her oversight.

In a statement, Ms Waters said she had not visited Canada since leaving as a baby and believed she had naturalised to Australia.

She sought legal advice after Mr Ludlam's resignation and said she was shocked and saddened by the result.

"I was devastated to learn that because of 70-year-old Canadian laws I had been a dual citizen from birth, and that Canadian law changed a week after I was born and required me to have actively renounced Canadian citizenship," she said.

"It is with a heavy heart that I am forced to resign as senator for Queensland and co-deputy leader of the Australian Greens, effective today.


Show us your tits!Tongue


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 3:12pm
Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

I think the question covers all contingencies, other than sole Australian citizenship.

That's question 2- are you an Australian citizen?


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 3:15pm
If the answer to question two is "no" and you answered (1) with "no", you are a stateless person. Or a bloody liar !


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 3:17pm
Wasn't Hinch a Kiwi ? They'll empty the place !


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 3:22pm
Did Tones get that British dual citizenship thing sorted or did ''bookshelves'' bodgie it up for him?

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Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 3:26pm
Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Wasn't Hinch a Kiwi ? They'll empty the place !



was Confused


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 3:39pm
If Hinch still has NZ citizenship, he is gone ?


Posted By: cabosanlucas
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 3:45pm
No excuses for anyone with dual citizenship. you dont 'guess' you arent...you go and find out from the relevant authorities and make sure you damn well arent.

see ya later...


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 4:00pm


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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 4:11pm
Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

If Hinch still has NZ citizenship, he is gone ?

Hinch ain't a halfwit.Wink


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 4:13pm
The Greens are proving what we already knew - they are UnAustralian.

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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 4:19pm
Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

If Hinch still has NZ citizenship, he is gone ?

Hinch ain't a halfwit.Wink 

There's a ready reply for that one, but Gay wouldn't approve.  Embarrassed


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 4:19pm
Waters was born in  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnipeg" rel="nofollow - Winnipeg , Canada, and grew up in  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brisbane" rel="nofollow - Brisbane . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larissa_Waters#cite_note-hbgs-1" rel="nofollow - [1]

She has a Bachelor of Science and a  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_of_Laws" rel="nofollow - Bachelor of Laws  from  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griffith_University" rel="nofollow - Griffith University  and a Graduate Diploma in Legal Practice from the New South Wales College of Law. From 2000–2001 she was a Legal Researcher at the Queensland Land and Resources Tribunal (predecessor of the Land Court of Queensland), from 2001–2002 a Lawyer at  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freehills" rel="nofollow - Freehills , and from 2002–2011 was a Lawyer with the  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Network_of_Environmental_Defenders_Offices" rel="nofollow - Environmental Defenders Office . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larissa_Waters#cite_note-wiki-2" rel="nofollow - [


Legal researcher- couldn't legal research her way out of a brown paper bag.Wink



Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 4:21pm
All confusing..     My local Pub in Qld told me in 2009 I had to be here 5 years before I was allowed to wear maroon .
   In 2019 I'll be a Queenslander.

Such a Shxt place at best Qld , so would take forever to get NSW /Vic citizenship.

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Posted By: scamanda
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 4:24pm
Imagine to uproar if it had been one of Pauline's party. The Greens would be after her/their blood.

So............Pauline you better go check out all of your senator's birth certificates. Because you can bet there is someone else out there doing the very same thing.


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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 4:28pm
Few of Pauline's mob would possess birth certificates.


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 4:30pm
Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

If Hinch still has NZ citizenship, he is gone ?


no, do some basic research Ouch


Posted By: horlicks
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 4:34pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Did Tones get that British dual citizenship thing sorted or did ''bookshelves'' bodgie it up for him?


All sorted PT. He posted a letter from a few years ago in which the Brits confirmed he had renounced his British citizenship prior to standing for Parliament.

https://twitter.com/TonyAbbottMHR" rel="nofollow - - - - - Verified account -   https://twitter.com/TonyAbbottMHR/status/885752007520157696" rel="nofollow -

FYI rumour mongers: I renounced my UK citizenship in 1993 and here's the proof:



Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 4:34pm
Methinks the Senators should have done their research, Mr Whale.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 6:25pm

Senators and Members, by Place of Birth, 45th Parliament

Overseas

Belgium (1)

Sen Hon Mathias Hubert Paul Cormann

Canada (1)

Sen Larissa Joy Waters

Egypt (1)

Ms Anne Aly

Germany (1)

Sen Hon Eric Abetz

Greece (1)

Ms Maria Vamvakinou

Iran (1)

Sen Sam Dastyari

India (1)

Sen Malcolm Ieuan Roberts

Italy (1)

Mr Antonio (Tony) Zappia

Malaysia (1)

Sen Hon Penny Ying-Yen Wong

New Zealand (2)

Sen Derryn Nigel Hinch
Sen Scott Ludlam

Nigeria (1)

Hon Sussan Penelope Ley

Singapore (2)

Mr Ian Reginald Goodenough
Sen Peter Stuart Whish-Wilson

United Kingdom (10)

Hon Anthony John Abbott
Sen Hon Douglas Niven Cameron
Hon Paul William Fletcher
Sen Alexander McEachian Gallacher
Sen Nicholas (Nick) James McKim
Mr Brian Keith Mitchell
Hon Brendan Patrick O'Connor
Sen Hon Nigel Gregory Scullion
Mr Joshua (Josh) Hamilton Wilson
Ms Rebekha Che Sharkie



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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 6:36pm
and ?

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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 6:44pm
That is all of them  Thumbs Up

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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 6:46pm
And ?

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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 6:49pm
If there are any more politicians that could have a problem, they will come from that list.

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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 6:56pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

If there are any more politicians that could have a problem, they will come from that list.
OK...however to date it is only two dumbo Greens that have been fraudulent !

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Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 6:57pm
I wonder whether some public servants have failed to administer the law here, since when do govt departments take your word as gospel !


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 7:00pm
So far. Ludlam might have a problem, but I doubt Waters will. Her case shows how easy it is to fall foul of that regulation. Hopefully it will be tightened up. 

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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 7:03pm
Ludlam was apparently written to about 3 years ago for documentation to confirm his staus. He ignored it. 

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Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 7:08pm
He can take his 1.5 mill, and only a computer to show for it, and run; back to NZ i assume! Well, he made his money! at our expense! woohooLOL


Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 8:20pm
Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Few of Pauline's mob would possess birth certificates.

 LOLLOLLOLClapClapClap


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Posted By: jujuno
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 8:22pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

So far. Ludlam might have a problem, but I doubt Waters will. Her case shows how easy it is to fall foul of that regulation. Hopefully it will be tightened up. 

 her case seems so ridiculous that she had to resign...1 week technicality...

  


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Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2017 at 12:00am
Piss them off, record a conviction for fraud, fine them, and stamp their papers never to represent again.

They were both previously challenged and put on notice publicly about their fraud, and both chose to run the gauntlet.

Game over, you lose Thumbs Down.


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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2017 at 5:29am
It is rumoured there are a number of others from all over the spectrum that may have problems with dual citizenship. It is up to Bookshelves Brandis to determine what happens to ''offenders'', so I would think with the govt having a one seat majority, it will depend on whether there are any lower house Liberals as to the punishment. Maybe like the travel rorts they will just do nothing or give people the opportunity to update their details.

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Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2017 at 9:15am
Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

No excuses for anyone with dual citizenship. you dont 'guess' you arent...you go and find out from the relevant authorities and make sure you damn well arent.

see ya later...



Yes, this is a critical and serious issue and people deserve to be sacked. We can't have New Zealand and Canada spies working in our parliament.


Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2017 at 9:17am
Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

So far. Ludlam might have a problem, but I doubt Waters will. Her case shows how easy it is to fall foul of that regulation. Hopefully it will be tightened up. 


 her case seems so ridiculous that she had to resign...1 week technicality...

  


Yep, so absurd. It's only because they are Greens that the usual suspects want them to resign and be charged with fraud.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2017 at 9:20am
There is a sitting National Party govt minister who is in trouble under the same section 44 of the Act but not citizenship. It is the same clause that forced Bob Day out of his Senate seat. 

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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2017 at 9:55am
You cannot nominate for the Senate or the House of Representatives if you are

*  disqualified by section 44 of the Constitution

That advice is at the top of the list on the Electoral Commission's nomination guide for candidates, followed by detailed instructions to read the electoral backgrounder on constitutional disqualifications.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-18/citizenship-issues-in-parliament-how-does-this-keep-happening/8721012" rel="nofollow - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-18/citizenship-issues-in-parliament-how-does-this-keep-happening/8721012



Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2017 at 6:12pm
At least the Greens did not blame Mum.



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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2017 at 6:52pm
Maybe understated but spot on.  Wink


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2017 at 8:21pm


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Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2017 at 8:40pm
You can become a citizen of a foreign country, without even knowing it ? Sounds like krap to me !


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 8:20am
Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

You can become a citizen of a foreign country, without even knowing it ? Sounds like krap to me !

Easier than you might think. My sister is going through the process for her and her 2 adult kids. A year into the process and neither kid has had any involvement in the process My sister has done everything, and is just awaiting final approval now. Getting a passport will be different as you have to attend interviews yourself but getting citizenship not so


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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 8:50am
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

You can become a citizen of a foreign country, without even knowing it ? Sounds like krap to me !

Easier than you might think. My sister is going through the process for her and her 2 adult kids. A year into the process and neither kid has had any involvement in the process My sister has done everything, and is just awaiting final approval now. Getting a passport will be different as you have to attend interviews yourself but getting citizenship not so

But the kids know this is happening I presume?LOL 


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 9:16am
The point is they dont need to, so it is plausible My nephew didn't know till about 6 months into the process They weren't going to tell him. He was doing a lot of traveling and there was an opportunity to get a UE passport, through a citizenship, which they intended surprising him with

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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 9:26am
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

The point is they dont need to, so it is plausible My nephew didn't know till about 6 months into the process They weren't going to tell him. He was doing a lot of traveling and there was an opportunity to get a UE passport, through a citizenship, which they intended surprising him with

Plausible that a mother would obtain citizenship of another country for their adult child without ever telling them? Plausible that they would neglect to tell them when they became aware that they intended to run for parliament? 

 That sounds insanely implausible to me. It could only occur with a collective, family madness.


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 9:56am
Came across an interesting article trying to find out if Canavan's father was alive. Bryan Canavan is the name of his father. Worked for Nestle at one time.Wink


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/managers-milked-nestle-of-16m/news-story/2bdedbae431500a9f11f80f38b2bda16?sv=80441210eb8e0ef922f6eb0fd7cd5950" rel="nofollow - http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/managers-milked-nestle-of-16m/news-story/2bdedbae431500a9f11f80f38b2bda16?sv=80441210eb8e0ef922f6eb0fd7cd5950



Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 10:10am
So the story which we have concocted after consultation with our lawyers is that Mum obtained Italian citizenship for all 4 of us kids, without any of us ever being aware of it, before or after. And there rests my defence, Your Honours. I plead insanity- Mama is crazy.


Posted By: cabosanlucas
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 1:41pm
emma alberici had it confirmed from the italian embassy in sydney that canavan is full of sh*t.


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 1:47pm
I'm afraid I might wake up one morning and find I'm a citizen of the DPRK.


Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 1:53pm
Well thankfully it would never have entered my Mum,s mind, or any of the family for that matter, to change anyone,s citizenship !  We all like being Aussie too much.

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Posted By: cabosanlucas
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 1:59pm
interestingly, dual citizenship rules dont apply to state mp's, its the federal constitution that says you cant serve parliament as a dc holder.


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 2:01pm
I can't imagine a person of 18 or more, could have their nationality changed by another person.


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 2:05pm
Not unknowingly, of course.


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 2:07pm
The remedy is simple.

We should make dual citizenship illegal.Thumbs Up

If you are an Aussie and want to be a citizen elsewhere - good luck, off you go, and don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way! 

... rescind your Australian Citizenship and all of the benefits that go with it ... simple!

Likewise, if you apply and are lucky enough to be granted Aussie Citizenship (and the test needs to be MUCH tougher) you must immediately rescind any other citizenship.

You are either here to stay, or a visitor, simple, easy, no confusion for dumb politicians.Big smile


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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 2:10pm
Mi sento molto male.Cry


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 2:14pm
Exactly! Speaking English should be a mandatory too!Thumbs Up

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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 2:20pm
Sorry this party in one I would never vote for anyway.  They think they are right on so many things which break people.  A cousin in the country on 25 acres has been told to fence a creek as the sheep might poo in it!  Um, the sheep need to drink and it rains and the poo is in the creek anyway.  They don't live in the county but think they know how everyone should live!

Well they don't.  Like the rest of us they muddle along and can't see the hurt they are causing.

This is so sad as so many things need to be done and they concentrate on the mundane stupid rules which are breaking people.

I'm sick of this modern world.  I wan't to go back to when we helped each other went times got tough.  When we didn't judge someone because their house was simple and they didn't have a car.  When we could trim back a tree without being taken to court.

Every time they think up a new law things just get worst!  Don't judge people unless you've lived their life and struggled through every day with them.  We all have our good points and bad but you just have to let people be different (well not the murdering types I agree) and live on a house boat, in a tree, underground etc.  

And we also have to remember the accidents we have before judging that a parent already heartbroken over a childs accident may of only turned away for a split second.  I've done that with mine and luckily didn't pay a heavy price.  Some of the things they tell me they got up to scare the living daylights out of me - but I didn't know at the time.  I got lucky.  Don't jump on someone who didn't have that luck.  But the modern texts etc seem to jump on and have their say about things they know next to nothing about.  They drive people to suicide who are already broken.


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 2:23pm
You need a holiday, furious ! But I tend to agree that a lot about the modern world is becoming less congenial.


Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 2:39pm
I'll get one in November max getting a short visit to NZ studs.  Hope the rain stops before then!  

Sorry to sound so down but boy the wrong people just keep getting stomped on these days.  I know I can't help them all,  I know I'm powerless, but that doesn't make the feeling go away.  I'm crying inside for a friend who is totally broken at the moment and the modern world couldn't care less about her.  But unfortunately I'm not built that way.


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 2:43pm
Doesn't the UK age pension get paid to Poms , no matter where they live or what they do.?
      Generous lot them Poms.

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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 3:11pm
Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Doesn't the UK age pension get paid to Poms , no matter where they live or what they do.?
      Generous lot them Poms.

Quite the opposite- they are miserable gits. Correct me if I'm wrong- this may have been corrected since I last paid attention but then the Pom policy was to pay the pension to those living overseas not indexed to inflation- e.g. you start on the 1983 rate of pension you're on the 1983 rate of pension for life. So you're going backwards every year


Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 3:15pm
Turnbull is a hypocrite, this proves it


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 5:45pm
 2006 Canavan became an Italian citizen after mum allegedly got the whole family Italian citizenship. 

2007 dad went to prison after being caught a along with another accountant for embezzling an estimated $1.6m from Nestle. 

Coincidence, or was someone doing a runner?


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Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 5:57pm
His explanation certainly sounds like BS.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 6:01pm
Senator Tinfoil as well?  Please God, if you really are there. 


One Nation's Malcolm Roberts under mounting pressure to prove citizenship status

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/one-nations-malcolm-roberts-under-mounting-pressure-to-prove-citizenship-status-20170726-gxj2ql.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/one-nations-malcolm-roberts-under-mounting-pressure-to-prove-citizenship-status-20170726-gxj2ql.html


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Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 6:11pm
I keep telling you Canberra is full of dodgy people, in the good old days it was only the odd black sheep, now it is a flock.


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 6:14pm
I am opposed to dual citizenship full stop- always have been. Based mainly on my Yankee relatives who pay no Australian tax but can avail themselves of Medicare if things get bad.


Posted By: cabosanlucas
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 6:23pm
If they went through the lot of them, many would be out the door id say.

this system of mp personal responsibility and honesty has worked a treat.


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 6:28pm
In the past you had the odd ratbag like "ironbar" Tuckey, now it is full of shifty people who dodge responsibility as an automatic reaction.


Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 7:03pm
Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

I am opposed to dual citizenship full stop- always have been. Based mainly on my Yankee relatives who pay no Australian tax but can avail themselves of Medicare if things get bad.


Smart rellies dumb Australian governments........past and present and both parties


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 7:23pm
For a while thought the Red Terror was the most inappropriate politician in Australia.But after the un-argued and unpopular decentralisation move of APVMA to his own electorate, then Canavan and lastly Murray Darling, Barnaby Joyce must surely now wear the undisputed Crown.  Dead


Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 7:39pm
Barney is a grub


Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 8:54pm
And the others arnt ??  Ermm

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animals before people.


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2017 at 9:25pm
Who is Barney ? Mr Rubble ?


Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2017 at 7:58am
Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

And the others arnt ??  Ermm



A lot of them are but Barney is top of the heap


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2017 at 12:52pm
Canavan asked if his father’s fraud conviction had anything to do with Mum’s actions: “I am not going to go into the personal details"




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Only the best people.


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2017 at 1:00pm
Dodge, duck, swerve, weave......the guiding principles for politicians today.


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2017 at 1:08pm
If the Italians can produce his application, and it is unsigned, it appears a significant "clerical error".


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2017 at 1:14pm
SENATOR Matt Canavan has been listed on the Registry of Italians Residing Abroad and Italian voting forms were automatically sent to him at his mother’s address for the past 10 years.

But the rising LNP star, who resigned from Cabinet on Tuesday due to the dual citizenship scandal, yesterday reiterated he has never received or even viewed a ballot.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/matt-canavan-listed-on-registry-of-italians-residing-abroad/news-story/7bedeaefd01ae599b04074e9b02ebe24" rel="nofollow - http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/matt-canavan-listed-on-registry-of-italians-residing-abroad/news-story/7bedeaefd01ae599b04074e9b02ebe24



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Only the best people.


Posted By: max manewer
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2017 at 1:21pm
Laurie Oakes says he believes Canavan, on the basis it would be futile to lie, when the facts are bound to come out.


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2017 at 2:50pm
I loved the Black African stand up comedy man who said he didn't agree about the good old days .
   He said, " as he was Black if you go back,    he wouldn't have been there earning , he would have been up for auction " .   

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How does a Pirate hear the radio with all that noise.
A BUCCANEER


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2017 at 3:48pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

SENATOR Matt Canavan has been listed on the Registry of Italians Residing Abroad and Italian voting forms were automatically sent to him at his mother’s address for the past 10 years.

But the rising LNP star, who resigned from Cabinet on Tuesday due to the dual citizenship scandal, yesterday reiterated he has never received or even viewed a ballot.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/matt-canavan-listed-on-registry-of-italians-residing-abroad/news-story/7bedeaefd01ae599b04074e9b02ebe24" rel="nofollow - http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/matt-canavan-listed-on-registry-of-italians-residing-abroad/news-story/7bedeaefd01ae599b04074e9b02ebe24


Same reason they cut off his mobile phone ... "I never got the bill"Cry


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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!


Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2017 at 4:51pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Canavan asked if his father’s fraud conviction had anything to do with Mum’s actions: “I am not going to go into the personal details"





Shocked


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2017 at 5:15pm
Give the benefit of doubt, but some stories are too far fetched to believe.
I can't see any judge finding in his favour.

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How does a Pirate hear the radio with all that noise.
A BUCCANEER


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2017 at 5:19pm
And it appears One Nation Senator Malcolm Roberts is for the high jump also.


Posted By: cabosanlucas
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2017 at 6:09pm
Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Give the benefit of doubt, but some stories are too far fetched to believe.
I can't see any judge finding in his favour.


are you happy that canavan gets govt welfare to state his frivolous case in the high court?

welfare bludger hey macca


Posted By: cabosanlucas
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2017 at 6:16pm
Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

And it appears One Nation Senator Malcolm Roberts is for the high jump also.


he has a planet mars passport.


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2017 at 6:42pm
I'm confused. Is it a document not requiring the prospective citizen's signature, or a document left unsigned which the Italians let go anyway, or a document where Mum forged the signature?


Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2017 at 4:16am
Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

And it appears One Nation Senator Malcolm Roberts is for the high jump also.

Roberts seems confident that he did nothing wrong.

He has also requested a formal independent review of eligibility of ALL MPs, PLUS, all FORMER MPs who are receiving a parliamentary pension ... now THAT would be an interesting can of worms, don't we think???Embarrassed

The ALP have said they would not support any such review ... why not?Confused

Might find that we could balance the budget very quickly ...


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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!



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