Single Gaze
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Topic: Single Gaze
Posted By: djebel
Subject: Single Gaze
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2017 at 6:13pm
------------- reductio ad absurdum |
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2017 at 6:14pm
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I am sure we have a thread for her but I am blowed if I can find it. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2017 at 6:35pm
It's the only one so take a AAA+ for effort & consideration  ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: scamanda
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2017 at 11:42pm
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And a AAA+ for Kathy O'Hara's ride today. She and Single Gaze are one dynamic duo. ------------- I started with nothing and still have most of it left |
Posted By: 3blindmice
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2017 at 6:38pm
| Nick Olive expected her to step up yesterday. Said she was in the best condition ever. |
Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2017 at 7:30pm
| I never realised how small she is, what a tough mare. Heart of gold |
Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2017 at 10:30pm
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I can tell you Khan that the Canberra racegoers where I was were riding as hard as Kathy was in the last 200m. Her and Marmelo were by far and away the best runs in the race and she is a great advert for Nick Olive's capabilities! ------------- Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise |
Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2017 at 10:48pm
| So happy to see her come through that nasty fall in the Oaks. She looked gone for all money that day, looking forward to seeing her at Flemington. |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2017 at 10:55pm
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She is one tough and gutsy little girl. Would have loved to see her win, but second aint bad. ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: Baguette
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2017 at 11:36pm
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My favourite horse at the moment! Apart from Winx of course. We listened to the last bit of the race while stopped at lights on Windsor Road. We were cheering her home and carrying on. I'm sure everyone around as thought they were witnessing a domestic violence/road rage incident or something. I always love the really gutsy horses and she's certainly that! |
Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2017 at 9:22am
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Made all the big horses look second class with those little legs of hers. She has one of Australia's best staying sires back in the 80's in Whiskey Road a son of Nijinsky crossed to a daughter of Nijinsky. She is anything but like Nijinsky on looks but she goes further than most Not a Single Doubts and tries her heart out. My TV was having a hard time with my yelling for her to finish second once Boom Time got past and she just went flatter and really tried. Wonderful ride by Kathy to read the style of the day but the mare had to be able to handle that front (well ignoring the run away) role with ease. When you consider she has Not a Single Doubt, Redoute's Choice, Canny Lad, Bletchingly, Biscay, Snippets, Vain etc and is inbred to Snippets/Lunchtime and Biscay! Anyone who believes our sprinters are just sprinters really should look again. Great day when a Golden Slipper winner sires the Caulfield Cup winner.
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Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2018 at 6:50pm
| Hard to see how they find a win for this girl. I think everyone would like to see it, but it’s frustrating to watch her repeatedly having to be ridden hard early to take up a spot, then being ridden hard from the 600 to stay in touch. Tries her guts out but never seems quite enough. Maybe a mile handicap where she can be ridden cold with some weight relief? Hard to see her winning WFA. |
Posted By: Xavier
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2018 at 7:00pm
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I think she’s just about had her chance. ------------- Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2018 at 7:01pm
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Doomben Cup seems the obvious race to bring her wonderful career to an end. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2018 at 12:26am
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She is one gutsy little girl. Never stops trying. But always runs into one bigger then her. I hope she can crack a good win before she retires. I wouldnt mind having a horse like her. ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: jacko1
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2018 at 12:48am
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Is she still going to Japan? |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2018 at 2:09am
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I just was told she has been sold to the Japs ?????? OH PLEASE NO Please tell me thats not true. ??? ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2018 at 8:40am
I agree a Hollindale & Doomben Cup would be nice target races. 1800m-2000m is right in her wheelhouse. But why end her career there? She’s only rising 6 and only had 33 starts. We need our top horses to have longer careers than that. Can’t see why she wouldn’t be competitive again in the next Spring & Autumn. |
djebel wrote:Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2018 at 9:10am
| Pretty sure it's true accacia. |
Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2018 at 9:57am
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Last I heard Yoshida bought her for $1.6m, with connections retaining her to race through the autumn, and the price to increase to $1.8m if she won another G1. Goes to Japan after the Sydney Cup, and will be served by Deep Impact to Northern Hemisphere time. Assume that’s still the deal. They love our iron horses with stamina. ------------- Sunline...simply supreme |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2018 at 10:06am
| Spot on Sunline. Flies out in May |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2018 at 1:56pm
 ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2018 at 2:31pm
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The Nick Olive-trained Single Gaze is trying to lose her bridesmaid tag when the $7.50 hope takes on Gailo Chop ($2.30 favourite) in the Tancred. It could be the Caulfield Cup placegetter's second to last run for Olive before she embarks on a breeding career potentially in Japan. Single Gaze will fetch a price believed to be $1.6-$1.8 million, depending on whether she adds another group 1 win to her resume. http://www.smh.com.au/sport/racing/canberra-cup-winner-almost-court-online-for-neville-sellwood-stakes-20180330-h0y5wn.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.smh.com.au/sport/racing/canberra-cup-winner-almost-court-online-for-neville-sellwood-stakes-20180330-h0y5wn.html ------------- |
Posted By: Smoke and Mirrors
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2018 at 8:30pm
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Retired from racing effective immediately ------------- "Go Hard or Go Home” |
Posted By: Smoke and Mirrors
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2018 at 8:31pm
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Abnormal blood count ------------- "Go Hard or Go Home” |
Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2018 at 8:39pm
| Pending sale a swinger.? |
Posted By: Jamal
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2018 at 12:09am
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Off to Japan https://www.punters.com.au/news/single-gaze-out-of-the-g1-sydney-cup_167944/" rel="nofollow - https://www.punters.com.au/news/single-gaze-out-of-the-g1-sydney-cup_167944/ ------------- Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2018 at 12:43am
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Hope she doesnt end up like Ferdinand. ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2018 at 1:11am
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2018 at 1:25am
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You can be sure she will be a good matron over there. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Mr Grieves
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 12:33am
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So much for Japan...now with C Waller |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 9:51am
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Some of the old owners are not very happy, well if you didn’t want her to race for someone else you shouldn’t have sold her. The new owner can do whatever he likes with her, he paid for her. can’t see what the big deal is (twitter carrying on as usual) |
Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 11:47am
| Strewth.... Nick Olive is cut to pieces. That interview was hard listening. |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 11:49am
Any link ? ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 12:03pm
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I was in the car, but there should be one on the website later today. Main takeaway is that he feels as though he’s let the team down. She was retired as he thought she had no more to give and, I presume, that would’ve factored in to the sale price... bloke also has some concerns for the horse, just to stoke the feels even further. Waller rang him to give him the news. |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 12:09pm
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What radio station Red Hare, RSN?
------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 12:10pm
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http://audioboom.com/channel/RadioTab" rel="nofollow - http://audioboom.com/channel/RadioTab http://twitter.com/RadioTABAus" rel="nofollow - http://twitter.com/RadioTABAus http://twitter.com/stevejoseph69" rel="nofollow - http://twitter.com/stevejoseph69 Chris Waller will train Single Gaze Spoke to former tnr Nick Olive “Bit of a shock for all of us involved to be honest, we were approched to sell her privately, we decided to sell on the proviso she would be going to Stud in Japan.” None of her original owners now involved Cheers PT ------------- |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 12:18pm
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If he didn’t want her to race on then he shouldn’t have sold her.. plain and simple. The new owner can do whatever he pleases with her, he does own her!!!! |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 12:27pm
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The number of older fillies Waller has all suited to the same racing is nauseating ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Majestic
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 1:01pm
| A simple "not to race again" clause in contract is all it would have taken. Sorry affair for previous owners but that's racing. |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 1:02pm
Exactly. |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 1:09pm
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I will assume it is just for the spring. She would not bred till February at earliest up there. You could not imagine she'd improve witn Waller but it would be a real kick in the teeth to Olive if she did. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 1:50pm
Geez, I would be dirty. Olive retired her, believeing he was doing the right thing and looking after the little horse,,,so much for the "on the plane to japan " !!! ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 2:03pm
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I get the impression many are looking forward to old "I told you so" ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 2:11pm
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I can assure you I am not looking forward to that at all ! I will feel ill watching her trying so hard, when she has already given her all. Dont these people have any feelings for the animal at all ? Or are they so money hungry they just dont give a toss. ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: Bonjour
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 2:41pm
| Does Waller need the money? About time a trainer see's the need to stand up and say, thanks but no thanks, Nick did a great job, I bet he's gutted, if he thought she had bottomed out, then she has.....Cmon Chris, be a man here. |
Posted By: linghi11
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 2:52pm
 ------------- to the victor |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 3:02pm
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Get real, if Waller hadn't accepted the mare there's others who would've quick smart and Olive would still have been gutted. At least Waller had the character to contact Nick personallyand delivery the bad news.
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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 3:03pm
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I’m sure if Waller sees that she’s had enough then he won’t race her. |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 3:04pm
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Who knows she may be just looking for a change of scenery and will come out and win a Group 1? Give them a chance, she’s a good horse. |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 3:05pm
Wow, what a pathetic post. I’m sure Waller will retire if she doesn’t come up. |
Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 3:08pm
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This is a non aussie IMO The horse was sold, the new owners are allowed to do what the like.... If you sell your house, do you get upset if the new owner renovates it? No, that’s just absurd. They knew the risks when they sold her, if they wanted her sold for breeding only, they could’ve put that in the sale contract... they didn’t. Olive is just a sook. Grow up. You had your chance and you failed. |
Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 3:08pm
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Posted By: Smoke and Mirrors
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 3:10pm
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Waller has the animals best interest at heart. He knows what he is dong. Leave it at that. ------------- "Go Hard or Go Home” |
Posted By: Bonjour
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 3:10pm
Wow, what a pathetic post.
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Posted By: Bonjour
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 3:11pm
Thanks Mrs Waller.
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Posted By: Smoke and Mirrors
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 3:12pm
Huh? My names Marion ------------- "Go Hard or Go Home” |
Posted By: Bonjour
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 3:18pm
Read my post SC, it's about time a trainer stood up.....a trainer........time some scruples and decency entered the game, necking other trainers has gone on for yonks, since Adam played full back, but there has always been an exception, now what a story and what an accolade it would have been for Chris to have said, ''sorry, if her previous trainer said she was going backward and for her well being we are politely declining'' ? hello? wouldn't that have been nice for everyone, everyone SC....it might even have set a new benchmark.....but, it didn't happen and we know why....don't we......who are the new owners....says it all.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 3:24pm
With all due respect, Who is her previous trainer ? ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 3:29pm
What does that mean ?  Her previous trainer was Olive and he suggested retirement because he felt she had done her best and it was time to consider her welfare, and the owners did what they felt was best for her . ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 3:32pm
Look clearly this is an immotve issue, It is also a nonsense issue, She is in no danger, No more danger than any other horse. If anybody thinks she is in danger than we should just ban horse racing all together. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 3:33pm
Pathetic because I think its a dirty thing to do ? And it is. Dirty and underhanded, and just wrong . But then there are many people who just dont know right from wrong when money enters into it. If you see this deplorable act as acceptable, then you are a bit pathetic, but thats just MHO. ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: Smoke and Mirrors
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 3:35pm
This happens every day of the week. Non issue whatsoever imho ------------- "Go Hard or Go Home” |
Posted By: Bonjour
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 3:35pm
No, it's about ethics, integrity and welfare......oxymoron there me thinks
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Posted By: Bonjour
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 3:36pm
Yes, yes, and yes to all the above.
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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 3:37pm
I am not saying she is in danger. But she is being used up, when the trainer who knew her best felt she had reached the point where she had no more left to give, and because they all cared for her, and appreciated the wonderful time she had given them, they wanted her to have a happy retirement. Some people in this game do care about the animal, but not all it seems. ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: Bonjour
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 3:39pm
Gee that was John Wayne's real name too......he was a cowboy as well.
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Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 3:42pm
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I agree wirth just about everyone who has posted here. 1. If you wanted to sell her and thought she had had enough, which is a legitimate concern, then you should have put a non racing clause into the sale. 2. The owners should feel, lied to here. The buyer, told the owners she would be breeding in Japan, which is technically the truth, but they obviously did not realise that the northern hemisphere do not breed until early next year, and there was a possibility she may have a spring campaign. 3. The buyer, is now the owner and they have every right to do what ever they want with the horse. Having said that would I race her again, NO! 4. Waller as has been stated, will see how she goes, in training and we all know her performance level, so if she is showing signs of not being interested, he will pull the plug. The only problem I have, is what race will Waller aim her at! If it is a light prep, I mean surely you would not put her through all the pre-training and trackwork, if you did not have a target in mind. If she is being raced, just for the sake of racing her, then I do have a huge problem with that! ------------- Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 3:45pm
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If I owned her I would be telling Waller to aim her at a first up tilt at the Epsom. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: jacko1
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 3:53pm
| If the owners were misled about her future then that's a shame but it all seems a bit vague so far. |
Posted By: Smoke and Mirrors
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 3:57pm
I agree with most of this. ------------- "Go Hard or Go Home” |
Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 6:00pm
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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 6:09pm
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 6:11pm
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WOW! He was emotional. Trainers are less emotional when a horse loses its life. They have to simply hope she does herself proud if she does race. I certainly do, She would only be getting the best of everything with Waller. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Bonjour
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 6:17pm
| If media reports are correct, then a verbal agreement was broken, it seems very unlikely a Japanese gentleman would break an agreement......to lose face? not Japanese at all, the Yakuza maybe, but not one of Japan's leading businessmen. As I said, Waller doesn't need the money, so do the right thing. |
Posted By: Smoke and Mirrors
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 6:26pm
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The owners should’ve put it in writing if they were that concerned. ------------- "Go Hard or Go Home” |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 6:26pm
| What's the right thing: knock the mare back only to see either one of Snowden, Hawkes, Weir, Hayes, Maher, McEvoy, Price etc accept her? |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 6:31pm
Apparently he has knocked good horses back before. Single Gaze joins Chris Waller's stable6 hours ago by Isaac Ling & AAP  Single Gaze has joined Chris Waller's yardImage: GettyGroup One-winning mare https://www.punters.com.au/horses/single-gaze_326027/" rel="nofollow - Single Gaze has joined Chris Waller's yard despite previous reports that she had been retired. Formerly with Canberra trainer Nick Olive, the five-year-old was sold to Japanese interests during the autumn with her then trainer and owners of the belief she was heading to the breeding barn. However, the mare's new connections have appointed Waller to train her, in a move that came as a surprise to Olive.  Single Gaze winning the 2016 Vinery Stud Stakes. Image: Bradley Photos. "[It's] A bit of a shock to all of us," Olive said on RSN's Racing Pulse program on Wednesday morning. "Chris (Waller) actually called me and let me know, and obviously news broke last night after that. "We made the decision to retire her. The offer came in, it was a good offer and she was sold on the proviso that she was going to stud in Japan." Single Gaze won five races from 33 starts under Olive, including the Group One Vinery Stud Stakes in 2016. "We made the decision to retire her and let her move on to the next part of her life and enjoy things. If we had any intention of racing on, we would have raced on ourselves," Olive said. In her most recent campaign, which finished in March, Single Gaze ran second in both the Group One CF Orr Stakes at Caulfield and the Group One Ranvet Stakes at Rosehill. Waller said he felt for Olive, who was among the ownership group that sold Single Gaze. "My first thoughts were 'Gee, I wonder how that'll go down'," Waller said. "Nick's done a fantastic job with her and as I see it, if I didn't take her someone else would. "I've said no to a lot of good horses. I train for Mr Yoshida and if I say no to the owner, well I'm pretty much saying I can't train any of his horses." Waller said Single Gaze would be assessed over the next month and her regular jockey Kathy O'Hara would provide valuable input. "If she says the horse is going great I'm sure Mr Yoshida will take that into consideration and ask us to find races for her," he said. "If not she'll just go up and be a mum." ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 7:19pm
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No-one, believe me no-one, knocks back an opportunity to train a Yoshida horse.
And let's not get too emotive Bonjour, because there's absolutely no truth in your allegation that Waller "necked" Nick Olive. The offer came out of the blue, Waller accepted (see above), and immediately phone Nick personally. And if the mare doesn't come up there's no doubt Waller will pull the pin.
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Posted By: Underground
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 7:27pm
| she will win a group 1 this spring and I will laugh at the reactions in here, some of you need to get a grip, shes a rising 6yo fiddlesticks |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 7:36pm
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Waller seems to have pit the pressure on O'Hara. If she says she does not feel great do people think she is being loyal to her previous owners ? ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 7:52pm
| Suspect her first loyalty will be to the mare, one would hope objectively. |
Posted By: billyjack
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 8:31pm
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Wouldn,t it have been funny on here if she had of gone to Weir,then there would of been a few different comments from certain members ------------- gordy |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 8:39pm
I am not happy about either trainer getting more horses, They factories not horse yards. What you can be sure of is the horses are not being trained by the man with his name on the licence. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: 3blindmice
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 9:00pm
They may have understood she was being bought (/retired) for breeding but it's a VERY long bow that they were ignorant of NH breeding times. |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 11:23pm
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Among my mates, when a mare comes off the track for breeding, they get a bit of time to let down/relax/settle in to life OTT. So, is she not to be allowed to get that time ? She has to race, right up until NH breeding time ??? On the track one week and into the barn the next week  !!! And then they will have the hide to wonder why she doesnt take, or mis carries  I reckon the previous owners are well aware of NH breeding times, and like me, they expected she would get some down time before being served. Of course Waller couldnt knock her back ! What would that do to him and his training for the Jap owners ??? But no where here have I seen Bonjour accuse Waller of necking Olive ?? I just think its unethical, nasty , and unfair on the horse. ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: Smoke and Mirrors
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 11:31pm
Mr Yoshida owns her now. He can do what he wants with her... if you were that concerned about her then maybe you should’ve bought her yourself ------------- "Go Hard or Go Home” |
Posted By: tillyras
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 11:33pm
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I sold my house a couple of years ago, found out the new owner ripped up the carpet and didn’t water the garden. I didn’t cry on national radio about it. |
Posted By: RED HUNTER
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 11:57pm
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QU (Racing Australia) Why is SINGLE GAZE shown as now being trained by CHRIS WALLER but owners? still same as before? If sold to Japanese interests in AUTUMN. or is the JAPANESE owner/s hidden in the REDBANK name? quote
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Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2018 at 12:03am
| Red the owners details do not update until paperwork is received |
Posted By: 3blindmice
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2018 at 12:07am
| Still plenty of time for her to let down after the spring AA |
Posted By: RED HUNTER
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2018 at 12:11am
| Tx Prince...because it was going to be retired,initially, the transfer of ownership was not lodged |
Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2018 at 12:27am
The outgoing trainer could’ve marked her card as Retired. It’s harder to reinstate if they do that, but they obviously didn’t do that. The transfer of ownership would’ve been filled out, however it takes a while for it to be processed |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2018 at 1:03am
Dont you understand the difference between a living, feeling, animal and a pile of carpet ???  ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2018 at 1:18am
Yeah,,and good on him,,,,we now see his true colours ! Its not about how we all feel about her. You just dont get it. Its unethical what they have done. Dont be a stupid git. Of course I couldnt buy her. And Mr Yoshida looks like a complete arse , by doing this. This of Mr Yoshida owns her so he can do as he pleases harks back to the days of slavery. You own a living thing so you can treat it however you like. Its sad, and nasty, and unethical, and imoral . I dont care if she wins lots more races, or never does again. Its wrong, what they are doing to this little horse. And those of you who think its jolly good , and Mr Yoshida is a champ, need a good thump up the ****** ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: SHOVHOG
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2018 at 6:04am
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Acacia if you're not a vegetarian you're just embarrassing yourself with the "living breathing thing " talk. On your terms obviously ? You're a walking , talking contradiction. ------------- " In gambling the many must lose in order for the few to win" |
Posted By: Cityboy
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2018 at 9:03am
Some of your mates may have a theory but it’s not at all uncommon for mares to come straight off the racetrack to the breeding barn and I’ve never heard or seen an issue with it. In my experience most seem to go in foal very quickly perhaps because they are so healthy? I don’t see the problem with a fit athletes getting pregnant. |
Posted By: Bonjour
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2018 at 9:48am
I think you are being too polite AA, I have been on this racing site for quite some years, I used to respect many of these posters, they earned that respect by learned and interesting posts, however on this issue they have lost me, anyone who supports Waller over this, well I shall abstain from saying what I would like to, to save Gay the energy of editing...heavily. Now Waller has turned it around and put it on poor Kathy O'Hara, ''she'll tell us if she's had enough''....please spare me, this from the same man that openly told the press he was trialling that grand mare Catkins after a poor run, I need to see her trial so she can tell us if sh'e had enough''......maybe he should have asked Liam Prior what to do, Liam, yes Liam....google him, Waller also said, if I didn't take her some one else would, and I already train for Mr Yoshida......Mr Yoshida, well, we will never know if it was him or his advisors that put this plan into action, if it's Mr Yoshida he knows the fall out, just a business decision some of you say.....you are dealing with a wonderful, sensitive, breathing entity with Single Gaze, many of us earn our living out of these creatures, wouldn't it be lovely that for once their well being and comfort is taken into account? they give their lives for us, lets respect that. #Rangirangdoo
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Posted By: SHOVHOG
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2018 at 10:01am
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Why would he keep Kathy on ? He's got the pick of the litter. ------------- " In gambling the many must lose in order for the few to win" |
Posted By: robbo
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2018 at 10:22am
So he can remain Teflon. |