Benzini - Hong Kong Vase
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Topic: Benzini - Hong Kong Vase
Posted By: Jamal
Subject: Benzini - Hong Kong Vase
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2016 at 9:59pm
The Australian-bred (I think trained in NZ) Benzini.....winner of the 2016 Group 2 Brisbane Cup (2400m)will be running in the Hong Kong Vase next month.
For those interested..
See below for Hong Kong Vase Final field
Country / Region
Int'l Rating
Selected Horse
Age
Sex
Weight
Trainer
IRE 123 * HIGHLAND REEL (IRE) 4 c 126 Aidan O'Brien FR 118 * SILVERWAVE (FR) 4 c 126 Pascal Bary GB 117 BIG ORANGE (GB) 5 g 126 Michael Bell FR 117 * ERUPT (IRE) 4 c 126 Francis-Henri Graffard JPN 117 SATONO CROWN (JPN) 4 c 126 Noriyuki Hori HK 116 HELENE HAPPY STAR (IRE) 5 g 126 John Moore FR 114 GARLINGARI (FR) 5 g 126 Corine Barande-Barbe FR 114 ONE FOOT IN HEAVEN (IRE) 4 c 126 Alain de Royer Dupré HK 112 FLAME HERO (NZ) 7 g 126 Peter Ho NZ 110 BENZINI (AUS) 7 g 126 Adrian Bull HK 110 EASTERN EXPRESS (IRE) 4 g 126 John Size HK 108 ANTICIPATION (IRE) 5 g 126 Tony Cruz JPN 115 * NUOVO RECORD (JPN) 5 m 122 Makoto Saito JPN 109 SMART LAYER (JPN) 6 m 122 Ryuji Okubo
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Posted By: BlackKnight
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2016 at 10:12pm
If there is a market to run last, I want to be on
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Posted By: Jamal
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2016 at 9:07pm
Benzini has an international rating of 110, why is it that high?
------------- Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2016 at 11:58am
What's the default rating for G2 winners?
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Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2016 at 12:00pm
Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2016 at 12:01pm
Trained and bred in WA
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Posted By: Xavier
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2016 at 12:07pm
What? Is? This? About? Me? Lost?
------------- Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes
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Posted By: Geraldo
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2016 at 2:22pm
No need to get upset.
Benzini was a late addition to the field.
Celebrate the story, and the little guy.
------------- TBV - where it is the Silly Season all year round.
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Posted By: MichaelM
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2016 at 3:28pm
Owner/trainer living the dream. Nice work. Pretty sure I backed him when he won the Brisbane Cup. It was a tough honest win.
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2016 at 3:47pm
Conceived in Australia, born and raced in NZ, now (as has already been said) allowing the owner/trainer to live the dream.
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Posted By: Xavier
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2016 at 3:59pm
All the best to them, my prev. reference was in regards to the WA remark Just got me a tad perplexed
------------- Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes
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Posted By: Jamal
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2016 at 5:52pm
Benzini - Australian bred, but trained in NZ
------------- Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2016 at 11:24pm
Our's if he wins! ... over rated Kiwi if not.
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Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2016 at 3:07pm
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2016 at 3:10pm
Outstanding run.
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Posted By: BlackKnight
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2016 at 3:10pm
Much better than I thought he was capable of
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Posted By: Jamal
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2016 at 3:13pm
lots of people thought he'd run bad but he ran well.
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Posted By: deejays destiny
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2016 at 3:14pm
Was still beaten a long way. Nothing to be to excited about IMHO
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Posted By: Jamal
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2016 at 3:18pm
Interesting if horses like Hartnell, Winx and Jameka would of performed if they ran in the Vase
------------- Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2016 at 3:28pm
So how far was Benzini behind the winner?
What prizemoney for his 6th placing?
Anyone able to post the video?
So many questions...
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Posted By: Delta Deel
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2016 at 3:38pm
I don't know why everyone thought he would run terrible, ran a little better than I had him rated (8th-9th) but the trip was never going to be an issue for him like it was for others, would have been keener to lay Big Orange the place then Benzini if I had to.
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Posted By: BlackKnight
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2016 at 3:40pm
9.8 lengths.
Roughly $55,000.
http://racing.hkjc.com/racing/info/meeting/Results/english/" rel="nofollow - Replay
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Posted By: BlackKnight
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2016 at 3:42pm
BlackKnight wrote:
9.8 lengths.
Roughly $55,000.
http://racing.hkjc.com/racing/info/meeting/Results/english/" rel="nofollow - Replay |
The 9.8 margin from racenet is wrong - 8.5 per the HKJC
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Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2016 at 3:46pm
Not disgraced but ran as expected
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Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2016 at 3:46pm
Jamal wrote:
Interesting if horses like Hartnell, Winx and Jameka would of performed if they ran in the Vase
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Not really relevant tbh
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2016 at 3:47pm
Thanks Black Knight.
And Moore didn't appear to go too early for mine.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2016 at 3:55pm
Magnolian Khan wrote:
Jamal wrote:
Interesting if horses like Hartnell, Winx and Jameka would of performed if they ran in the Vase
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Not really relevant tbh |
No, But it is INTERESTING.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2016 at 5:09pm
https://twitter.com/JSLTan" rel="nofollow"> Jason Tan @JSLTan https://twitter.com/JSLTan/status/807859541576589313" rel="nofollow - Rosie Myers very happy with Benzini's run & without 7 laying in on him in straight felt he could've run 3rd. She quipped, "maybe next year"
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Posted By: BlackKnight
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2016 at 5:43pm
djebel wrote:
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Why didn't she protest then? The 7 ran 3rd.
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Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2018 at 2:18pm
He’s now trained in Australia , James Bull down at Hamilton (kiwi based in Vic) Runs in the Lord Reims in adelaide tomorrow enroute to the Cup next Monday
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Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2018 at 2:45pm
Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2018 at 7:55pm
James is based in country victoria. He is the son and brother of his NZ trainers. His dad Adrian is the owner
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Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2019 at 12:25pm
I reckon he could snag a place today. Has been doing enough this prep. Craig Williams on is a positive
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