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Topic: The Trump Presidency
Posted By: Whale
Subject: The Trump Presidency
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 10:42am
Will he do what he said, I doubt it, the backflips are happening already, bad luck for those who see him as a saviour.  Only president Elect but post your thoughts here

Report: Trump Plans to Appoint Former Clinton Donor and Goldman Sachs Banker to Treasury



http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/07/report-trump-eyeing-goldman-banker-for-treasury.html" rel="nofollow - http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/07/report-trump-eyeing-goldman-banker-for-treasury.html


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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 11:02am
He will not be as right wing as the right fell for so everything should be alright

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STRIKE WHILST THE IRON IS HOT

reductio ad absurdum

The richest man is not he who has the most, but he who needs the least.



Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 11:03am
Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

He will not be as right wing as the right fell for so everything should be alright


kiss me I like that.



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STRIKE WHILST THE IRON IS HOT

reductio ad absurdum

The richest man is not he who has the most, but he who needs the least.



Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 11:21am
When will Donald be releasing his tax returns? Waiting for swamp stench to leave them?


Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 11:37am
The markets today... the horror... it's all over...


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 11:38am

Here's just some of what Donald Trump has pledged throughout the campaign:

Immigration

·         Ban all Muslims from entering the United States, although he said he would make an exception for  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-10/trump-says-london-mayor-would-be-exception-to-us-muslim-ban/7402998" rel="nofollow - ·         Immediately suspend immigration from "any nation that has been compromised by terrorism" until proven  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-22/donald-trump-republican-national-convention-accepts-nomination/7652176" rel="nofollow - ·         Build a wall along the US-Mexico border and  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-01/donald-trump-outlines-mexican-wall-plan/7805106" rel="nofollow - ·         Stop illegal immigration

·         Triple the number of  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-18/donald-trump-and-hillary-clinton-policy-comparison/7629574" rel="nofollow - ·         Deport an estimated  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-02/latino-community-dump-trump/7808090" rel="nofollow -  and their children — even if they were born in the United States — starting with those who have  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-01/donald-trump-outlines-mexican-wall-plan/7805106" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump" rel="nofollow -   https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump" rel="nofollow - Donald J. Trump 

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump" rel="nofollow - ✔

In my speech on protecting America I spoke about a temporary ban, which includes suspending immigration from nations tied to Islamic terror.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/742464168482201602" rel="nofollow - 7:10 AM - 14 Jun 2016

 

Trade

·         Withdraw from the Trans-Pacific Partnership

·         Renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement and "walk away" from it if the  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-22/donald-trump-republican-national-convention-accepts-nomination/7652176" rel="nofollow - ·         Increase tariffs on Chinese imports to 45 per cent

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump" rel="nofollow -   https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump" rel="nofollow - Donald J. Trump 

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump" rel="nofollow - ✔

I will renegotiate NAFTA. If I can’t make a great deal, we’re going to tear it up. We’re going to get this economy running again.  https://twitter.com/hashtag/Debate?src=hash" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/788919099275390976" rel="nofollow - 12:45 PM - 20 Oct 2016

 

Law and order

·         End crime: "The crime and violence … will soon, and I mean very soon,  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-22/donald-trump-republican-national-convention-accepts-nomination/7652176" rel="nofollow -

·         Appoint new supreme court judges who "will be pro-life, they will have a conservative bent, they will be  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-20/us-election-key-moments-from-the-final-presidential-debate/7949712" rel="nofollow -

·         Stop the government dictating what types of firearms "good, honest people" are allowed to own

·         Reduce gun violence by empowering law-abiding  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-18/donald-trump-and-hillary-clinton-policy-comparison/7629574" rel="nofollow - ·         Appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Hillary Clinton's emails, also  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-08/donald-trump-and-hillary-clintons-bitter-us-election-campaign/7997826" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump" rel="nofollow -   https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump" rel="nofollow - Donald J. Trump 

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump" rel="nofollow - ✔

The 2nd Amendment is under siege. We need SCOTUS judges who will uphold the US Constitution.  https://twitter.com/hashtag/Debate?src=hash" rel="nofollow - - #BigLeagueTruth

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/788910201755742208" rel="nofollow - 12:10 PM - 20 Oct 2016

 

Health

·         Scrap the Affordable Care Act, also  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-06/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-court-voters-in-swing-states/7998570" rel="nofollow - ·         Allow the states to take back  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-31/donald-trump-backtracks-on-abortion-comments/7286844" rel="nofollow -  abortion providers is "an insult to people of conscience"

·         Punish doctors who carry out illegal abortions. At one point he also advocated punishing women who have illegal abortions, but he  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-31/donald-trump-backtracks-on-abortion-comments/7286844" rel="nofollow - ·         Fix America's mental health system, which he says will prevent many mass shootings



https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump" rel="nofollow - -  

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump" rel="nofollow - ✔

I am going to repeal and replace ObamaCare. We will have MUCH less expensive and MUCH better healthcare. With Hillary, costs will triple!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/793769750056677376" rel="nofollow - 10:00 PM - 2 Nov 2016

 

Economy and jobs

·         Implement "reforms to add  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-22/donald-trump-republican-national-convention-accepts-nomination/7652176" rel="nofollow -

·         Reduce the top tax bracket from  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-09/trump-targets-taxes-regulations-in-economic-speech-in-detroit/7703328" rel="nofollow - ·         Cut the corporate tax rate from  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-09/trump-targets-taxes-regulations-in-economic-speech-in-detroit/7703328" rel="nofollow - ·         Introduce "massive" tax cuts for working and middle-income Americans

·         Allow families to deduct the average cost of childcare from their taxes, including stay-at-home parents


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump" rel="nofollow - -  

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump" rel="nofollow - ✔

Vast numbers of manufacturing jobs in Pennsylvania have moved to Mexico and other countries. That will end when I win!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/760287440435187712" rel="nofollow - 11:33 AM - 2 Aug 2016

 

Defence and national security

·         Try and improve the relationship with Russia: "If Russia and the United States got on well and went after ISIS,  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-20/us-election-key-moments-from-the-final-presidential-debate/7949712" rel="nofollow -

·         Submit a new budget to rebuild America's "depleted military"

·         Make countries that benefit from America's defence force  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-20/us-election-key-moments-from-the-final-presidential-debate/7949712" rel="nofollow - ·         Pursue "aggressive joint and coalition military operations to crush and destroy ISIS"

·         Work with other countries to cut off funding to ISIS

·         Initiate cyberwarfare to disrupt and disable ISIS propaganda and recruiting

·         Order an immediate review of all US cyber vulnerabilities

Nuclear weapons

·         Speak to North Korea to try and stop their nuclear program, which would be a major shift in  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-18/trump-says-he-will-renegotiate-us-role-in-climate-north-korea/7424412" rel="nofollow - Climate change

·         Renegotiate America's role in the UN global  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-18/trump-says-he-will-renegotiate-us-role-in-climate-north-korea/7424412" rel="nofollow - Education

·         Scrap the Common Core program, which dictates what students should learn in each grade. He says curriculum decisions and standards  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-18/donald-trump-and-hillary-clinton-policy-comparison/7629574" rel="nofollow -



Posted By: ExceedAndExcel
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 11:44am
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

When will Donald be releasing his tax returns? Waiting for swamp stench to leave them?




I haven't looked any further to determine if it is true but several people from a US-based forum that I follow have said that the President's tax returns are required to be made public. If that is the case then we will see them in due course.


Posted By: ExceedAndExcel
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 11:46am
Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

He will not be as right wing as the right fell for so everything should be alright




Most likely on the money. I doubt much of significance will change in the country. This doesn't change my enthusiasm for visiting the country that's for sure.


Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 11:46am
Easy to see how he won with all that.




Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 11:49am
Will the court case proceed ?


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Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 11:49am
Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Will the court case proceed ?


the rape case


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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 12:00pm
Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Will the court case proceed ?


the rape case

It has had a date set sometime in December for a hearing.

Maybe he will do a deal with Obama to get a pardon for he and Hillary


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 12:13pm
Predicted Chief of Staff Reince Priebus says there will be no mass deporatations.

Also his camp are saying the wall does not have to be physical, is metaphorical LOL


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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 12:22pm
Wont go down well with the deplorables Shocked


Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 12:42pm
Confused ..what was wrong with this thread..>> http://forum.thoroughbredvillage.com.au/trump_topic56865.html" rel="nofollow - http://forum.thoroughbredvillage.com.au/trump_topic56865.html


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 12:50pm
I give up, what?


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 1:18pm
Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

Confused ..what was wrong with this thread..>> http://forum.thoroughbredvillage.com.au/trump_topic56865.html" rel="nofollow - http://forum.thoroughbredvillage.com.au/trump_topic56865.html



It has nothing to do with his presidency.




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STRIKE WHILST THE IRON IS HOT

reductio ad absurdum

The richest man is not he who has the most, but he who needs the least.



Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 2:05pm
Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

Confused ..what was wrong with this thread..>> http://forum.thoroughbredvillage.com.au/trump_topic56865.html" rel="nofollow - http://forum.thoroughbredvillage.com.au/trump_topic56865.html


Nice try troll, this thread is about his presidency


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Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 3:20pm
All sounds good to me, Trump. Seems to be cutting back heavily on taxes, yet spending heavily. I can't see any problems ahead.


Posted By: Mr Prospector
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 3:27pm
I can't wait to see how a 45% tariff on imported Chinese goods works out and the cost to Australia for US defence spending to name just two of his initiatives . 
That should be very interesting . 


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 3:56pm
Obama another black guy moved out of public housing to make way for a white millionaire


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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 5:54pm
The  https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-stat/graphics/politics/trump-archive/docs/us-v-trump-case-via-national-archives-foia.pdf" rel="nofollow - Justice Department lawsuit against Donald Trump, his father, Fred Trump, and the Trump company , which owned 39 buildings with 15,000 apartments, actually marks the first mention of Donald J. Trump in The New York Times. The front page headline on Oct. 16, 1973, said: “ http://www.nytimes.com/times-insider/2015/07/30/1973-meet-donald-trump/" rel="nofollow - Major Landlord Accused of Antiblack Bias in City .” Regarding the charges, Trump was quoted: “They are absolutely ridiculous.”

According to Kranish and Fisher, the Justice Department lawsuit was “one of the most significant racial bias cases of the era.” It was based on evidence gathered by testers for the New York City Human Rights Commission, who documented that black people were told no apartments were available in Trump properties while white testers at the same time were immediately offered apartments. In a sampling of 10 Trump buildings, only 1 to 3.5 percent of the occupants were minorities, making it one of the strongest cases the Justice Department had ever seen for violations of the Fair Housing Act.

All the Justice Department wanted was to obtain a settlement in which Trump and his father would promise not to discriminate. But Trump instead hired Roy Cohn, a notoriously combative attorney, and countersued the Justice Department for $100 million ($500 million in today’s dollars) for making false and misleading statements. But his allegations were dismissed by the courts, and two years of litigation later, Trump decided in 1975 to settle before the case went to trial.

“The settlement was much like what the Trumps could initially have gotten,” the book says. As part of the deal, the Trumps were required to place ads assuring minorities that they would have equal access to housing. Trump initially balked at paying for the ads but ultimately was forced to do so.

Newspapers at the time declared it was a victory for the government, with headlines such as “Minorities Win Housing Suit.” The Justice Department said the decree was “one of the most far-reaching ever negotiated.” A New York Times  https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2186614-trump-promises-to-end-race-bias.html" rel="nofollow - article  determined that the agreement had “stronger teeth” than a settlement reached with another real estate firm, the Lefrak Organization, in 1971.

The book notes that Trump, in an interview, falsely claimed “there were many, many landlords that were sued under that case.” Similarly, in the debate, Trump claimed “that was a lawsuit brought against many real estate firms.” But the suit was squarely aimed at the Trumps and their company; it was titled: United States of America v. Fred C. Trump, Donald Trump and Trump Management, Inc.

In  https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-stat/graphics/politics/trump-archive/docs/donald-trump-interview-with-marc-fisher-and-michael-kranish-april-21-2016.pdf" rel="nofollow - a transcript  of the April 21, 2016, interview, one can see how Kranish called out Trump when he tried to claim the lawsuit was against many landlords.

Donald Trump: Yeah, that was, yeah. But I meant that was one of many cases.

Michael Kranish: What other cases? The LeFrak case was settled, and you were upset about the Lefrak case being settled, the Sam Lefrak case.

Donald Trump: Oh, I see. You mean they settled it sooner?

Michael Kranish: He settled previously, and you had cited in your book that, you know, this other landlord, Sam Lefrak, settled the case. You didn’t want to do that.

Moreover, the Trumps were back in court three years later, as the Justice Department in 1978 alleged that they had reneged on the agreement to allow minorities to rent properties. The case was  https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-stat/graphics/politics/trump-archive/docs/trump-racial-bias-justice-foia.pdf" rel="nofollow - not formally closed until 1982 .

http://https//www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/09/28/trumps-claim-that-a-racial-discrimination-suit-was-brought-against-many-real-estate-firms/" rel="nofollow - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/09/28/trumps-claim-that-a-racial-discrimination-suit-was-brought-against-many-real-estate-firms/



Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 5:59pm
Looking forward to the realisation by his supporters, like many who have invested in The Donald over the decades, that they have been Trumped.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 6:03pm
You could feel the collective WTF? last night in his speech saying that America owed Hillary an enormous debt of gratitude for her decades of service At the same time thousands of deplorables were out on the street chanting ''lock her up''. 


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 7:25pm


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STRIKE WHILST THE IRON IS HOT

reductio ad absurdum

The richest man is not he who has the most, but he who needs the least.



Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 7:50pm
Who are all those bimbos, Djebel ??

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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 7:53pm
That is the Trump Cabinet 


Posted By: goldey
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 9:25pm
Didn't the producers of the Simpsons predict he would be president back in 2000 should of put a couple of dollars back  then .


Posted By: goldey
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 9:26pm
Wish I could dig up the episode !


Posted By: horlicks
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2016 at 9:55pm
Originally posted by goldey goldey wrote:

Wish I could dig up the episode !


https://youtu.be/lxjM1yCcqTQ" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/lxjM1yCcqTQ


Posted By: Rattlesnake
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 7:41am
From a previous thread;

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:


Dont listen to me... The market doesn't trust him either


After Trump's win, the market's reaction;

DOW HITS ALL-TIME HIGH


http://www.businessinsider.com.au/market-update-november-10-all-time-high-2016-11?r=US&IR=T

LOL


Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 7:55am
This Presidency will be a tightrope for Trump. How does he back away from some of his more outrageous statements and not alienate his base? Already there are mutterings of the wall being "metaphorical", and now this:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/11/09/trump_s_call_to_ban_muslims_from_u_s_quietly_scrubbed_from_campaign_website.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/11/09/trump_s_call_to_ban_muslims_from_u_s_quietly_scrubbed_from_campaign_website.html


Posted By: Rattlesnake
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 7:59am
Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

All sounds good to me, Trump. Seems to be cutting back heavily on taxes, yet spending heavily. I can't see any problems ahead.


Multi-national US companies are estimated to be holding $1.4 trillion in cash outside of the USA. Google and Microsoft are the biggest holders of cash outside the USA.

At the moment, this cash is useless to shareholders, the the US economy and US Government.

This build up has occurred because these companies don't want to pay the US corporate tax rate of 35%.

Trump's policies look towards reducing the corporate tax rate so that these multi-nationals don't end up shuffling money out of the country.

When money leaves the country, taxes don't get paid and the cash isn't re-invested in the economy.

Lower corporate tax rates encourage US companies to hold their cash in the country and re-invest, creating growth within the domestic economy.

Lower corporate tax rates also reduce costs on businesses which have previously off-shored and taken jobs with them. High tax rates reduce competitiveness.

Trump is also promoting a one off tax rate of 10% for all repatriated cash.

If $700Bn is repatriated, that means a massive injection of private money into the economy to stimulate growth, plus $70Bn into Government coffers. A genius move, huge stimulation to create jobs and growth using private funds.

I wouldn't mind betting that a Trump Republican Government would use part of that $70Bn tax revenue to help stimulate growth via infrastructure private/public partnership investments in the Rust belt states of Pennsylvania, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan etc.

These are the States that delivered the party the election, and the states which will need to be held in 2020.

The potential for the above tax policies to stimulate the US economy is huge.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 8:03am
Originally posted by Rattlesnake Rattlesnake wrote:

From a previous thread;

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:


Dont listen to me... The market doesn't trust him either


After Trump's win, the market's reaction;

DOW HITS ALL-TIME HIGH


http://www.businessinsider.com.au/market-update-november-10-all-time-high-2016-11?r=US&IR=T

LOL

No, the market never flinched, did it?

I didn't expect you to be still interested in this thread after Priebus announced yesterday that deportations were not going to happen and the wall was metaphorical.


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 8:26am
  Don't pee before your water comes.
 
We may well have a great President on our hands .
 
    Keep him away from Monica and her dickta phone.


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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 8:37am
The way he will have to backtrack on all the bullsh*t he spouted before the election conning the suffering struggling deplorables, there is a better chance of revolution maxie.


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 8:38am
My thoughts too macca, let's wait & see, campaigning is one thing, ruling another - particularly in the States.


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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 8:47am
We had a very recent PM here similarly lied his way into office with an agenda he could never keep. His own party threw him out to save themselves. While they can't throw Trump out, his non delivery will drive voters back to the parties they abandoned for him, wasting a great opportunity to kill inequality


Posted By: Rattlesnake
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 8:48am
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by Rattlesnake Rattlesnake wrote:

From a previous thread;

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:


Dont listen to me... The market doesn't trust him either


After Trump's win, the market's reaction;

DOW HITS ALL-TIME HIGH


http://www.businessinsider.com.au/market-update-november-10-all-time-high-2016-11?r=US&IR=T

LOL

No, the market never flinched, did it?

I didn't expect you to be still interested in this thread after Priebus announced yesterday that deportations were not going to happen and the wall was metaphorical.

Just making an observation Passing Through. Do you have a problem being held accountable?

If you are going to act like the World will end upon a Trump win in the other thread, expect your prediction to be discussed if it doesn't play out that way. 

You were very strong on the markets being indicative of your view being correct, I'm just pointing out that the Dow hit an all time high last night.

I will drop in every now and then to have a laugh at what I'm sure will be the continued whining and the 'we know better' attitude that also pervaded the previous discussion thread.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 8:58am
Originally posted by Rattlesnake Rattlesnake wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by Rattlesnake Rattlesnake wrote:

From a previous thread;

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:


Dont listen to me... The market doesn't trust him either


After Trump's win, the market's reaction;

DOW HITS ALL-TIME HIGH


http://www.businessinsider.com.au/market-update-november-10-all-time-high-2016-11?r=US&IR=T

LOL

No, the market never flinched, did it?

I didn't expect you to be still interested in this thread after Priebus announced yesterday that deportations were not going to happen and the wall was metaphorical.

Just making an observation Passing Through. Do you have a problem being held accountable?

If you are going to act like the World will end upon a Trump win in the other thread, expect your prediction to be discussed if it doesn't play out that way. 

You were very strong on the markets being indicative of your view being correct, I'm just pointing out that the Dow hit an all time high last night.

I will drop in every now and then to have a laugh at what I'm sure will be the continued whining and the 'we know better' attitude that also pervaded the previous discussion thread.

Are you saying the volatility has stopped yet, it never happened or both? 

As many pointed out the market had already somewhat factored in a Trump possibility. On it actually happening there was a lot of movement before settling back again. Before Trump starts to rule, there will be much more volatility in the markets as they try to work out from announcements he either holds or reverses on who the winners and losers will be. Markets move and return, there isn't a lot of places money in that volume to shift to. I wouldn't like to be holding shares in anything to do with renewable energy or science based 

We have flat-earthers in charge. Climate science and evolution deniers. Wonder what they will do with NASA? Military/weapons  based companies on the other hands are rubbing their hands together, but there will still be plenty of uncertainty and movement to come



Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 9:33am
  What stood out to me was the disgusting interference attempts from Australia's gutter rats .
 
      How they would cry if the USA gave such opinions on our leaders at election time .
 
Shorten took the cake , labelling Trump as MAD .       Gillard's testicles went into overdrive .
  Many others have some answering to do too.


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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 9:35am
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

The way he will have to backtrack on all the bullsh*t he spouted before the election conning the suffering struggling deplorables, there is a better chance of revolution maxie.

All pollies, even your heros, PT, back track on their promises once they get their foot in the door. 


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Posted By: Mr Prospector
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 9:57am
Originally posted by Rattlesnake Rattlesnake wrote:



After Trump's win, the market's reaction;

DOW HITS ALL-TIME HIGH


http://www.businessinsider.com.au/market-update-november-10-all-time-high-2016-11?r=US&IR=T

LOL

Bank stocks in US and here have jumped significantly due to claims he will ease the banks requirements to hold capital (ala pre GFC ) . This is not a good thing unless your in real estate and need easy cheap money . 


Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 10:56am
Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

My thoughts too macca, let's wait & see, campaigning is one thing, ruling another - particularly in the States.
** Governing. That's the critical difference between the two sides.


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 11:09am
Originally posted by Mr Prospector Mr Prospector wrote:

Originally posted by Rattlesnake Rattlesnake wrote:



After Trump's win, the market's reaction;

DOW HITS ALL-TIME HIGH


http://www.businessinsider.com.au/market-update-november-10-all-time-high-2016-11?r=US&IR=T

LOL

Bank stocks in US and here have jumped significantly due to claims he will ease the banks requirements to hold capital (ala pre GFC ) . This is not a good thing unless your in real estate and need easy cheap money . 


Looks like trump will be looking after the evil banks and the establishment, gotta laughat the suckers who expected anything else


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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 11:10am
Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

The way he will have to backtrack on all the bullsh*t he spouted before the election conning the suffering struggling deplorables, there is a better chance of revolution maxie.

All pollies, even your heros, PT, back track on their promises once they get their foot in the door. 

Do you know what he will do once he gets control, or doesn't it matter? 


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 11:25am
Originally posted by Rattlesnake Rattlesnake wrote:

From a previous thread;

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:


Dont listen to me... The market doesn't trust him either


After Trump's win, the market's reaction;

DOW HITS ALL-TIME HIGH


http://www.businessinsider.com.au/market-update-november-10-all-time-high-2016-11?r=US&IR=T

LOL


The early gloat strikes again, wait till he says something dumb or unpopular, and he will, watch the market dive then


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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 11:28am
https://medium.com/@seanokane/day-1-in-trumps-america-9e4d58381001#.vzlndodu8



Posted By: ExceedAndExcel
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 11:43am
Muslim ban policy removed from his website. Suspect few if any of the more controversial policies will actually happen. Much to the disappointment of the whackos out there.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 11:48am
and in here?


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 11:49am


Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 11:50am
Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Prospector Mr Prospector wrote:

Originally posted by Rattlesnake Rattlesnake wrote:



After Trump's win, the market's reaction;

DOW HITS ALL-TIME HIGH


http://www.businessinsider.com.au/market-update-november-10-all-time-high-2016-11?r=US&IR=T

LOL

Bank stocks in US and here have jumped significantly due to claims he will ease the banks requirements to hold capital (ala pre GFC ) . This is not a good thing unless your in real estate and need easy cheap money . 


Looks like trump will be looking after the evil banks and the establishment, gotta laughat the suckers who expected anything else

He's also vowed to impose tariffs on goods made abroad. Wonder what the market will think of the likely trade war. I'm tipping that might be one of his "non-core" promises.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 11:55am
Wonder what his struggling constituents will think when they have a 45% surcharge on all Chines imports, which according to him is what they have become totally reliant on?


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 11:59am
Walmart employs an astounding 2.1 million people. In the United States alone, the company employs 1.4 million people. This is a staggering 1% of the U.S.'s 140 million working population.Sep 20, 2010



So much for creating jobs, there go a few hundred thousand jobs without even trying


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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 12:05pm
It seems the real problem with Trump being elected is not the damage he himself might do but the empowering of the racists and their ilk causing untold misery.




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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 12:21pm

League Of The South Hails Trump, Wants ‘No Mercy’ Towards ‘Jews, Minorities And Anti-White Whites’

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post_author/brian-tashman/" rel="nofollow">brian-tashman-4 By  http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post_author/brian-tashman/" rel="nofollow - Brian Tashman  November 10, 2016 2:23 pm
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/league-of-the-south-hails-trump-wants-no-mercy-towards-jews-minorities-and-anti-white-whites/


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 12:23pm
EEERR League Of The South,  all of Trump's children bar the young one are married to or engaged to Jews LOL


What a bunch of moronic losers


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Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 12:29pm

MAKE AMERICA HATE AGAIN

A rash of racist attacks have broken out in the US after Donald Trump’s victory


http://qz.com/833607/us-election-a-rash-of-racist-attacks-have-broken-out-in-the-us-after-donald-trumps-victory/" rel="nofollow - http://qz.com/833607/us-election-a-rash-of-racist-attacks-have-broken-out-in-the-us-after-donald-trumps-victory/



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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 12:40pm
Why shouldn't they behave like this and expect that everyone except whites be dealt with?

Didn't Donald speak to them personally, and he got elected, didn't he?


Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 12:41pm
"Watching the self entitled socialist elite protest in the streets, denying people's democratic right to vote, is exactly why Trump won.

Apathetic non-voting university brainwashed hipster - YOU CAN HAVE AN OPINION SO LONG AS ITS MY OPINION.

America desperately needed a shake up. And while I don't agree with him on a lot of issues there is a lot I do agree with, particularly on reigning in unsustainable welfare and building the economy again."

Rachel Corbett
November 10, 2016 9:00pm

I don’t like Trump. But maybe I was wrong about him

As the hangover from the Trump victory wears off I have a small confession to make. I’m feeling hopeful.

Granted, a year from now, as I’m standing in the smouldering ruins of society watching The Four Horseman gallop over the rise I might be cursing my premature optimism.

But watching Trump deliver his first speech as President-elect I thought, “maybe I didn’t give this guy enough credit.”

Everyone was waiting for him to celebrate by wheeling out a keg and hosing down women in white T-shirts but instead he looked (I can’t believe I’m saying this) mildly Presidential.

Most of that can be attributed to his speechwriters, who hit the perfect tone to temper his madness, but as he delivered his speech I wondered whether Trump had played us all spectacularly.

He’s had years of experience in reality television, has been a public figure for decades and knows how the media works. He understands what behaviour gets the loudest cheers and highest ratings.nd while I doubt we’re going to see him morph into a tanned Mother Teresa anytime soon, I’m starting to think the Trump we saw on the campaign trail might be the one he knew would have most impact.

Truth is, if he’d been the bloke on election night promising unity and fairness the whole way through, he’d never have been able to galvanise the disaffected masses he needed to win. As someone who was bewildered by his success, the election result opened my eyes to how far removed those of us in media and politics are from the people who’s lives are genuinely affected by the decisions of Government.

I, like many, thought reason, logic and decency would prevail but none of those things put food on the table for a retirement-age steelworker who can’t remember the last time he had $5 to spare.

I was so swept up in this idea the smartest and most adult person in the room was the most deserving that I was genuinely shocked when Hillary refused to front her supporters when things were looking grim. Those people had been waiting for hours to hear from a woman who represented their hopes for the future and instead they were fed some line about the fight not being over even though 15 minutes later she was calling Trump to concede defeat.You can guarantee if Trump lost he would have been out in front of the crowd thanking them for their support (and potentially hosing down women in white T-shirts). In fact, I think he might have preferred that so he could just slap an “as seen on the Presidential ballot” sign on the entrance of his buildings without having to deal with the 3am phone calls about Syria.

For Hillary, however, this was deeply personal and refusing to deliver a concession speech under the giant glass ceiling and fireworks that were potentially prematurely booked, proved this was more about her than the people.

As an anti-politician Trump has everything to lose and nothing to gain, so he’ll hopefully be more concerned with getting things done than making sure he’s still got a car space in four years.

Whatever the outcome, those of us who doubted him need to be rooting for his success. The American people voted and if he’s the divisive, misogynistic piece of work we’ve seen so far they’ll have their chance to vote him out in four years. But it’s in everyone’s best interests for him to prove we severely underestimated him.

Let’s hope Trump can make America great again, because if he doesn’t we’re stuffed.

In the end was clinton more concerned about being the first WOMAN president?



Posted By: cabosanlucas
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 1:08pm
I suspect a lot of trump voters supported him simply because they heard what they were privately thinking. thats all it took.

in 4 years when they realise their dire predicament in life hasnt improved and has probably gotten worse, wont matter. as long as trump again says stuff they they were thinking.

And yes, some people are that easily controlled. trump even spelled that out to them. "I could stand in the middle of a street, fire a gun and kill someone...and they'l still vote for me"


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 1:13pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Why shouldn't they behave like this and expect that everyone except whites be dealt with?

Didn't Donald speak to them personally, and he got elected, didn't he?


Trump thinks hate can be turned on and off like a switch. Incite them with hateful, racist comments during the campaign, bring them  all together in his acceptance speech, how does that workOuch


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Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 1:13pm
what happens with his tax audit ?


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Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 1:19pm
What happens with the emails?


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 1:40pm
Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

What happens with the emails?

Donald has already pardoned her.




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Posted By: Newtown Old Boy
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 4:03pm
Is there a market if he sees out the full 4 years?



Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 5:42pm
The names being mentioned as likely cabinet members must be a joke, right? Newt Gingrich. LOLGoldman Sachs bankers.LOL Wall St economists.LOL You call that anti-Establishment?


Posted By: horlicks
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 5:53pm
Also mentioned have been Giuliani and Christie.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 5:55pm


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 5:56pm


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 5:59pm
What odds Rush Limbaugh?  


Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 6:22pm
Dive US dollar DIVE DAMNIT..!!!!!




Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 7:31pm
I'll never understand the weird mixture of capitalism and communism that makes up the average joe's take on the world these days.

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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 7:38pm
Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

I'll never understand the weird mixture of capitalism and communism that makes up the average joe's take on the world these days.


What do you mean ?

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Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 7:42pm
Every man for himself vs an organic, changing group under a leader.

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Posted By: Mr Prospector
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 9:03pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:


Absolute GOLD LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2016 at 9:28pm
Mr Trump will probably be what the world needs.
 
   Says it as it is and up yours .
 
  Will be interesting to see what all the knockers have to say in a years time .


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Posted By: Mr Prospector
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2016 at 6:15am
I suspect Trump will have smart people who take care of business , they will be terrific people by the way .
Everyone agrees they are going to be the smartest people ,so there will no problem with his people.

I think (or hope) Trump will enjoy being president while his people take care of business . There was an interview with Keating and he put forward the view that his foreign policy stance of more friendly engagement with both Russia and China may be a good thing.
Where he could do massive damage is in the financial sector and he really does need fantastic and smart people .


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2016 at 9:05am

Donald Trump's victory averted World War Three, top Putin aide claims


http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/donald-trumps-victory-averted-world-war-three-top-putin-aide-claims/ar-AAkbTM0?li=AAgfYrC&ocid=mailsignout" rel="nofollow - http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/donald-trumps-victory-averted-world-war-three-top-putin-aide-claims/ar-AAkbTM0?li=AAgfYrC&ocid=mailsignout



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Posted By: cabosanlucas
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2016 at 11:59am
despite an obvious flaw in this history piece, i.e. the usa' s role in so much death and destruction (they must be peace keepers again, the writer did say the joint is great).,, this is still a scary read:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tobias-stone/history-tells-us-what-will-brexit-trump_b_11179774.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tobias-stone/history-tells-us-what-will-brexit-trump_b_11179774.html


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2016 at 12:37pm

How to make it through the next four years and survive in Trump's America


 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/11/first-dog-on-the-moons-guide-to-making-it-through-the-next-four-years?CMP=share_btn_tw



Posted By: cabosanlucas
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2016 at 4:00pm
Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:


Mr Trump will probably be what the world needs.
 
   Says it as it is and up yours .
 
  Will be interesting to see what all the knockers have to say in a years time .


you are sold on trump simply because of what he says?



if he isnt impeached in one years time, he might get a pass mark for that alone.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2016 at 4:05pm
After deport, wall and ban nothing else is heard


Posted By: cabosanlucas
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2016 at 4:27pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

After deport, wall and ban nothing else is heard


You mean to say that when donald says "believe me" ... you still have reservations??


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2016 at 4:44pm
If he keeps half of the promises he has made about SC, abortion, anti climate change, more guns, deport, anti gay etc he will turn America into a fundamental faux Christian state to compare with Saudi Arabia or Taliban Afghanistan for Islam 


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2016 at 5:17pm

Donald Trump statement on banning Muslims from US disappears from his website

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-president-election-muslim-ban-immigrants-website-statement-removed-a7408466.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-president-election-muslim-ban-immigrants-website-statement-removed-a7408466.html




Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2016 at 5:19pm


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2016 at 5:33pm
‘Prediction professor’ who called Trump’s big win also made another forecast: Trump will be impeached





At the end of our September conversation, Lichtman made another call: that if elected, Trump would eventually be impeached by a Republican Congress that would prefer a President Mike Pence — someone whom establishment Republicans know and trust.

“I'm going to make another prediction,” he said. “This one is not based on a system; it's just my gut. They don't want Trump as president, because they can't control him. He's unpredictable. They'd love to have Pence — an absolutely down-the-line, conservative, controllable Republican. And I'm quite certain Trump will give someone grounds for impeachment, either by doing something that endangers national security or because it helps his pocketbook.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/11/prediction-professor-who-called-trumps-big-win-also-made-another-forecast-trump-will-be-impeached/" rel="nofollow - http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/11/prediction-professor-who-called-trumps-big-win-also-made-another-forecast-trump-will-be-impeached/



Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2016 at 5:51pm
C-P=As we sit in the foggy aftermath of one of history's most extraordinary elections one thing is clear enough – Australia just received an enormous shot of financial adrenalin. We are accidental collateral winners from the Republican victory in the US. Call it the Trump gift and it's worth billions.

Trump's policy centrepiece to spend $1 trillion to rebuild America's infrastructure signals a massive increase in demand for commodities like iron ore and coal, which Australia produces. And since declaring he was set to "fix our inner cities and rebuild our highways, bridges, tunnels, airports, schools, hospitals", the prices of these commodities have taken off like a rocket.

The price of Iron ore – our biggest export – has soared to almost US$75 a tonne which is almost double where it was at the start of the year. In the past few days since the days it has gained more than 8 per cent.



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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2016 at 6:41pm
Like Brexit, the young are the ones moaning about the result but couldn't be bothered to vote.

http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/one-million-young-people-staying-home-elected-donald-trump/8014712" rel="nofollow - http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/one-million-young-people-staying-home-elected-donald-trump/80


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2016 at 6:58pm
Typical of many young unfortunately .want everything without doing the work


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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2016 at 8:09pm


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2016 at 8:17pm
Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

C-P=As we sit in the foggy aftermath of one of history's most extraordinary elections one thing is clear enough – Australia just received an enormous shot of financial adrenalin. We are accidental collateral winners from the Republican victory in the US. Call it the Trump gift and it's worth billions.

Trump's policy centrepiece to spend $1 trillion to rebuild America's infrastructure signals a massive increase in demand for commodities like iron ore and coal, which Australia produces. And since declaring he was set to "fix our inner cities and rebuild our highways, bridges, tunnels, airports, schools, hospitals", the prices of these commodities have taken off like a rocket.

The price of Iron ore – our biggest export – has soared to almost US$75 a tonne which is almost double where it was at the start of the year. In the past few days since the days it has gained more than 8 per cent.


Macca, we won't be selling a kilo more of coal to the USA.


Posted By: cabosanlucas
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2016 at 8:53pm
Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:


C-P=As we sit in the foggy aftermath of one of history's most extraordinary elections one thing is clear enough – Australia just received an enormous shot of financial adrenalin. We are accidental collateral winners from the Republican victory in the US. Call it the Trump gift and it's worth billions.

Trump's policy centrepiece to spend $1 trillion to rebuild America's infrastructure signals a massive increase in demand for commodities like iron ore and coal, which Australia produces. And since declaring he was set to "fix our inner cities and rebuild our highways, bridges, tunnels, airports, schools, hospitals", the prices of these commodities have taken off like a rocket.

The price of Iron ore – our biggest export – has soared to almost US$75 a tonne which is almost double where it was at the start of the year. In the past few days since the days it has gained more than 8 per cent.



Wonderful. if only we had a mining tax which would raise much needed revenue out of that scenario,


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2016 at 10:20am

Trump accuser says she will take legal action only if he does


http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/trump-accuser-says-she-will-take-legal-action-only-if-he-does/ar-AAkdKnS?li=AAgfYrC&ocid=mailsignout" rel="nofollow - http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/trump-accuser-says-she-will-take-legal-action-only-if-he-does/ar-AAkdKnS?li=AAgfYrC&ocid=mailsignout



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Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2016 at 12:57pm
So what will Trump supporters make if Trump does not follow up on his cries for Hillary to be tried..?


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2016 at 1:03pm
He sounds very conciliatory right now but is a vindictive snake, Obama would do well to pardon her just in case he is waiting for Obama to be gone


Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2016 at 1:10pm
Why would she be pardoned if she did nothing wrong.????Shocked


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2016 at 1:17pm
A President can offer a pardon against future prosecution, as Gerald Ford did in his first month in office for Richard Nixon and several co-accused. If Trump goes after her it will be like the Lib Party here going after Gillard Rudd etc with Royal Commissions....just because they can. A pardon will head that off.

I suspect though that Donald has more than a few skeletons that can be examined should anyone choose to look You cant screw over as many people as he has and not have a huge army of people willing to sink the boot in. Look at Bill Clinton and Whitewater. It would be prudent of Obama to do this


Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2016 at 1:23pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:


Look at Bill Clinton and Whitewater.


Are you saying Bill did something dodgy re whitewater or are you saying he was clean?



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