So Si Bon
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Topic: So Si Bon
Posted By: winx
Subject: So Si Bon
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2016 at 1:05pm
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Before the horse got back to scale yesterday after his unlucky run, Robbie received a phone call from Singapore. Glen Boss trying to get the derby ride. Should be winning the derby imo ------------- She's a wrecking ball WINX |
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2016 at 1:16pm
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I guess all the 3yos will have had somilar preps so he is as likely as any. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Einstein
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2016 at 1:26pm
| Was unlucky yesterday. Had he got out, he may have won. Beautiful horse, so much like his sire. |
Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2016 at 2:28pm
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Would not have won but should have been in the finish. I have liked him (and backed him) for some time. Not a fan of Laing but he can train a good horse to win a Derby. If you get a well bred 3yo with stamina in the pedigree and he's hitting the line in a Guineas like that, he is usually very hard to beat in the Derby all things being equal. Swear might be the one he has to beat. ------------- Sunline...simply supreme |
Posted By: VOYAGER
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2016 at 4:42pm
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I thought the form from Sydney would be okay but the way Yankee Rose cleaned them up yesterday not so sure, although she is a star. His run yesterday was as good if not better than Tarzino's in the guineas last year. Cracking sort and if he continues to improve he is the derby winner. ------------- Remember, it might take intelligence to be smart , but it takes experience to be wise |
Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2016 at 9:42pm
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I'm a big fan. |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2016 at 9:54pm
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So Si Bon has already had 5 starts at 1600m and less in 5 months of racing. Black Minx herself was a good mare to 1200m I tend to think So Si Bon will have had enough by the time the Derby comes around. As a fan of So You Think I hope I am wrong. I think ultimately this COLT will be very good when kept fresh and raced between 1400 and 1600m. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2016 at 10:25pm
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One thing about Laing, he is unconventional, so if anybody can pull off something a bit quirky, it'll be him. I mean anybody who can win a VRC Derby with a $4,000 yearling from a terrible stallion must go alright. Also random note, Laing apparently has fair few SYT's, so if they end up going very well as a breed, Laing might have a big few years. |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2016 at 1:38pm
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Next start will be the vase and then into the derby Ollie booked to ride |
Posted By: Einstein
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2016 at 4:21pm
| Ohno :( Would of rathered Boss out of those 2. |
Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2016 at 2:23pm
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I like him as place chance today Think he'll be hard to beat over the 2500 next week |
Posted By: Rosscoe
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2016 at 4:53pm
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Fantastic trial, wins the Derby! ------------- Current Stable - Soul Star & Adivinar + Lady Vega |
Posted By: Delta Deel
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2016 at 4:54pm
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Good luck beating the winner Rosscoe, he had every excuse to be beaten but got it done. This horse is a beautiful type though. A proper beauty ------------- https://group1selections.wordpress.com/ |
Posted By: Einstein
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2016 at 4:56pm
Carries my money for sure.
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Rosscoe wrote:Posted By: JudgeHolden
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2016 at 4:57pm
| Will love Flemington. |
Posted By: Rosscoe
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2016 at 5:09pm
The Big track of Flemington DD suits this horse. He's a big track horse. All over him like Winx today .... ------------- Current Stable - Soul Star & Adivinar + Lady Vega |
Posted By: marscay
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2016 at 5:27pm
Hope you're right Sir  |
Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2016 at 9:18am
| With Oliver suspended they have booked Bowman to ride in the derby |
Posted By: Rosscoe
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2016 at 10:10am
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He rode champion mare Winx to her record breaking Cox Plate victory last Saturday and this weekend Hugh Bowman will partner a horse that ran a quicker sectional on the same card So Si Bon in the 2016 Victoria Derby. Hugh Bowman Triple Victoria Derby winning hoop Hugh Bowman (pictured aboard Flippant) is booked to ride So Si Bon in the 2016 edition this Saturday at Flemington. Photo: Daniel Costello. A beautifully bred son of So You Think, who was the last dual Cox Plate champion in 2009-10 before Winx showed off with an eight length title defence last weekend, the Robbie Laing-trained So Si Bon also ran at the Valley on Cox Plate Day. The colt finished 1.75 lengths back for third behind the Kiwi-trained winner Sacred Elixir in the Group 2 Moonee Valley Vase (2040m) with apprentice Michael Dee in the saddle. His Cranbourne-based trainer Laing said there were excuses aplenty for his horse in the run and was impressed with what So Si Bon showed late in the piece. “If you swap the runs with Sacred Elixir, my colt nearly would’ve won,” Laing told Racing Victoria on Sunday. “He showed a ton of guts, and stuck on when Sacred Elixir kicked a length and a half clear.” So Si Bon has won just one of his six career starts to date and Laing confirmed he would run in his second elite level on the short seven day back-up into the $1.5 million Group 1 AAMI Victoria Derby (2500m) at Flemington this Saturday. Laing was hoping the rain stayed away from Melbourne over the week heading towards Derby Day as So Si Bon also failed to perform at his best in the Vase on a Soft-rated track. “I knew he wouldn’t handle the wet,” he added. Two back the youngster ran under two lengths away fifth to Divine Prophet in the Group 1 Caulfield Guineas (1600m), and the VRC Derby will be his second look at the Flemington track. In the Moonee Valley Vase, So Si Bon finished his final 600m sectional in 36.80 seconds. Laing was quick to point out that was a faster time than Winx (37.47) bolted home over the final 600m for her eight length Cox Plate success. “My bloke in his last 600m went home a second [0.63s] quicker than Winx,” he said. In the past 14 years, the Moonee Valley Vase has produced eight Victoria Derby winners. The latest was Tarzino (3rd in 2015) 12 months ago, who was the first since the ill-fated Lion Tamer (2nd in 2010). The Vase – Derby double hasn’t been achieved since Efficient (2006) and this Melbourne Cup Carnival the Tony Pike-trained Sacred Elixir is favourite to be the next. In the latest pre-field Victoria Derby odds Sacred Elixir, who is already a Group 1 winner having taken out Brisbane’s J.J. Atkins (1600m) during the winter as a two-year-old, sits top of the markets at $3.40. So Si Bon is the equal $8 second elect in those futures Victoria Derby betting markets with the Team Hawkes-trained Inference, another son of So You Think, whose last run was on Caulfield Cup Day when third in the Group 3 Norman Robinson Stakes (2000m). Two of the past five VRC Derby champions backed directly off a Norman Robinson Stakes run with Sangster (2nd in 2011) and Polanski (1st in 2013) who completed the double. Bowman has been confirmed to ride So Si Bon for the first time in the Derby, a race he has ridden three previous champions to victory in with success aboard: Lion Tamer (2010), Sangster (2011) and Polanski (2013). The 2016 AAMI Victoria Derby field of final acceptances is due for release on Wednesday at 9:30am (AEDT). Before then make sure you lock in your early selections at their juicy all-in prices online at Ladbrokes.com.au – home of Enhanced Odds (T&Cs apply). Read more: http://www.races.com.au/2016/10/24/bowman-booked-for-so-si-bon-in-victoria-derby-2016/#ixzz4NxN8NuK5" rel="nofollow - http://www.races.com.au/2016/10/24/bowman-booked-for-so-si-bon-in-victoria-derby-2016/#ixzz4NxN8NuK5 Races.com.au, home of the best horse racing bonus offers ------------- Current Stable - Soul Star & Adivinar + Lady Vega |
Posted By: James
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2016 at 11:36am
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Wow. I like Laing but firstly if you swap runs with the winner I doubt it would have made any difference and Sacred Eleixir had to work to find a gap at the top of the straight anyway. Secondly the way they burnt the turf the whole race in the Cox Plate they should be beating Winx home for the last 600m! He perhaps should have had a closer look at the times and he would have realized the first seven runners home all ran a faster last 600m than Winx!
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Posted By: Sir Gov
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2016 at 5:32pm
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Leave out of your First 4. He looks like he may need to wait until the Autumn
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Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 7:58pm
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What do others make of his Aust Guineas effort on Saturday? He seemed to finish off reasonably well over 1600m but I was expecting a bit more. Where is he headed next? Personally I think something like the G2 Alister Clark Stks over 2040m at Moonee Valley in a few weeks might be a suitable target. He ran well at MV in the spring behind Sacred Elixir. I suppose there's also the Rosehill Guineas in Sydney but I'm having doubts he's up to G1 standard at this point in his career. Hope he proves me wrong but there's nothing wrong with picking off a weaker G2 at MV rather than running 4th or 5th in a G1 in Sydney.
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Posted By: Bonfield
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 8:08pm
| He rated just fine. About 0.5 below his peak of last prep. He's not a G1 quality horse. Needs to be placed better. He's only won a maiden. Trainer has no idea. |
Posted By: Bonfield
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 8:08pm
| Alister Clark a good race? |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 8:11pm
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A benchmark race anywhere would do him just fine. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 8:21pm
The Alister Clark has a rich history with a great honour roll, especially in the 80's & 90's including the likes of Vo Rogue, Zabeel, Naturalism, Durbridge, Flotilla. Wow, what a great era. But looking at recent winners, the race would have to be under pressure to maintain G2 status. But still a worthwhile target for middle distance 3yos. But maybe djebel is right, just find a suitable BM race and get a win under his belt before any loftier targets. |
Posted By: winx
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 9:00pm
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Laing has said that he will be running in the Rosehill guineas and then either the BMW or QE. No Derby. Been set for 2000 and wasn't expecting much in Melbourne ------------- She's a wrecking ball WINX |
Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 9:07pm
Thanks winx. Hmmmm, very ambitious program for a Class 1 horse.
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Posted By: Bonfield
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2017 at 9:23pm
| Haha. He's dreaming. |
Posted By: Sir Gov
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 5:55am
This would not surprise me - Laing likely to target the Pegasus as well.
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Posted By: SYT
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2017 at 6:05am
Interesting... in his pre-race updates on the horse he was rather confident, even first up. |
Posted By: SYT
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 1:35pm
| How poorly placed has this bloke been? Just the 1 win in 11 starts... feels like he should have a few more wins to his name |
Posted By: 3blindmice
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 2:02pm
| Agree. New trainer req'd |
Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 2:38pm
MissRock similar, having said that probably wins tomorrow. 
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Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 3:52pm
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Probably not going to change trainers anytime soon, Robbie part owns them both |
Posted By: Nocturnal
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2017 at 4:05pm
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doesnt seem to be an owner of SSB ------------- The only problem with backing winners ? You never have enough on.... |
Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2017 at 5:12pm
| Where did he come from? |
Posted By: Flight
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2017 at 5:14pm
The rear.  Always travelling. ------------- “The probability of a certain set of circumstances coming together in a meaningful (or tragic) way is so low that it simply cannot be considered mere coincidence. ” ― V.C. King |
Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2017 at 5:16pm
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Jeepers, just saw the replay HUGE |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2017 at 5:18pm
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His dam is Black Minx, he might be better being kept fresh and 1200m. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2017 at 5:18pm
| Knowing Robbie, he could run in the Melbourne Cup on the Tuesday and the Sprint on the Saturday |
Posted By: 3blindmice
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2017 at 5:30pm
| Will probably chuck him into top grade straight away again. Needs to get some wins under the belt against the lesser horses imo. |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 1:52pm
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Apparently the Epsom and Toorack are his targets. The big question, how much racing will he do to get to those races ? ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Sneck
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2017 at 3:05pm
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2017 at 5:50pm
So Si Bon to emulate Cole Diesel?Andrew Eddy (@fastisheddy) & Ben Asgari (@BenAsgariRacing) 3:02pm Trainer https://www.racing.com/trainers/robbie-laing" rel="nofollow - Robbie Laing claims his talented four-year-old https://www.racing.com/horses/so-si-bon" rel="nofollow - So Si Bon is so versatile he might be able to emulate the incredible 1989 feat of Cole Diesel by winning a Toorak Handicap and then a Caulfield Cup seven days later. So Si Bon caught the eye first-up with a slashing fresh run at Flemington and Laing said he was likely to run the horse at Caulfield on Saturday week before setting him towards the lofty Group 1 double in October. "I might do a Cole Diesel and run him in the Toorak Handicap and then Caulfield Cup," Laing said on Tuesday. "He can run all distances. He ran fourth in the (Victoria) Derby and I thought he was a good thing beaten. He missed the kick, gave them 15 lengths start and ran fourth." In 1989, the Greg Mance-owned and trained Cole Diesel won the 1600-metre Toorak Handicap with a late burst and then seven days later backed up in the 2400-metre Caulfield Cup to again round up the field to score. So Si Bon turned in an impressive first-up fresh run over 1000m at Flemington when he beat all but Sunday Escape after coming from last and Laing said he was looking to run him again on Memsie Stakes Day. "We could see him at Caulfield over 1100 metres on Saturday. We'd love to go to the Memsie but all the good judges tell me that no way known will he get a run as he's only an 88-rater," he said. "At the end of the day, he's only won a Pakenham maiden so he gets into races like the Bobbie Lewis and the Sir Rupert Clarke on the minimum. "Gee, you think he'd be hard to beat over 1400 metres on the minimum in three or four weeks' time." Laing was speaking from Moonee Valley where he took a handful of other spring hopefuls for a gallop. Afterwards he said his three-year-old https://www.racing.com/horses/frankel-my-dear" rel="nofollow - Frankel My Dear was set to run at the track this Saturday, along with https://www.racing.com/horses/missrock" rel="nofollow - Missrock and his imported stayer https://www.racing.com/horses/darabad-fr" rel="nofollow - Darabad . "Frankel My Dear is improving all the time," he said. "Three months ago he was flat winning an average trial but he's just improved. He went to seconds in trials and then winning trials and his run the other day was great. His last sectional was good and he's improved again. "He put it to Missrock throughout their work this morning and I thought their work was exceptional." Laing said Missrock is also a likely Valley runner. "We are going to bring her forward to run on Saturday because on the Mornington Peninsula it has been so wet and we've been starved of a lot of grass gallops and I don't want to go to the races we've picked out for her in a month's time underdone," he said. Darabad will also reappear after being gelded during his spell. "Darabad needs to get going and so he'll run in the 1600," he said. "They'll be a bit quick for him but he's a gelding now and is far more genuine. His work is much better this time in. "Ultimately, the Melbourne Cup (is his goal) but it's a hard race to get into so he'll have to win a Herbert Power or a Geelong Cup." ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: monty1
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 9:31pm
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Does Robbie have a dartboard to plan his horses preparations? He has some of the most poorly placed horses I've seen. I would love to know the amount of his horses that go around in races at 100/1? There are plenty and a lot of his runners finish back towards the tail of the field, his strike rate must be pretty bad. |
Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 9:41pm
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Polanski must have been the second coming of Tulloch. ------------- Sunline...simply supreme |
Posted By: scamanda
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2017 at 9:58pm
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I think the Toorak over 1600m is right for So Si Bon. His best run ever imo was in the Caulfield Guineas. My only concern is the Toorak is a long way off and he might have the zip trained out of him by then. ------------- I started with nothing and still have most of it left |
Posted By: mikey
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2017 at 6:50am
| Is he likely to make the field for the Rupert Clarke? |
Posted By: Vivarchi
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 3:34am
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"So Si Bon to emulate Cole Diesel" Hasn't been done for 30 years. Sounds like a great plan from Robbie. I guess it tickled his fancy. Good luck to So Si Bon. Horse has a lot of talent.
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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2017 at 3:36pm
| Flying this prep |
Posted By: scamanda
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2017 at 3:44pm
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He has to be the best looking horse running around in Australia at present. A big black bull just like his sire So You Think and his dam sire Lonhro. ------------- I started with nothing and still have most of it left |
Posted By: mikey
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2017 at 8:11pm
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I am on the bandwagon now. Have taken him @ $18 in the Rupert Clake & Toorak and even a bite of $151 for the Caulfield Cup. He really looks like he is flying this spring and some of his dad's talent looks to have flowed down. |
Posted By: Jamal
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2017 at 5:24pm
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Is So Si Bon an automatic starter innthe Caulfield and Melbourne Cups ir does he have too win to make the fields? ------------- Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2017 at 5:37pm
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He needs to get his rating up. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2017 at 5:47pm
He's got Buckleys of being sound come November or even mid October ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: Flight
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2017 at 5:50pm
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1200-1600. 2000 at a max. He is not a 2400m+ horse. ------------- “The probability of a certain set of circumstances coming together in a meaningful (or tragic) way is so low that it simply cannot be considered mere coincidence. ” ― V.C. King |
Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2017 at 6:01pm
if they have cups plans they are going about it in a funny way, with a 1000m then an 1100m race.
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2017 at 6:46pm
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Don't forget who trains him Tlaz ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2017 at 6:51pm
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Main aim is the Rupert Clarke this prep. |
Posted By: mikey
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2017 at 7:28am
| He will come with a Bernborough like finish & win the Bobbie Lewis next Saturday! Then he will be contesting favouritism for the Rupert Clarke & win that convincingly, before starting a warm favourite in the Toorak Handicap and win that too! He will then become the first horse since Cole Diesel to back up & win the Caulfield Cup the following week and surpass that horses deeds by again backing up and fighting it out with Winx head and head to the post in the Cox Plate. Finally he will line up in the big one on the First Tuesday in November but I'm not sure how he will go in that! Regardless, he is about to step out of the shadows, emulate the deeds of his sire & be recognized as a great racehorse. |
Posted By: Sir Gov
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2017 at 8:25am
Why not throw in the Cantala & Sandown Cup.....super well placed this horse.....
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Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2017 at 9:14am
I'll have whatever your having thanks |
Posted By: 3blindmice
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2017 at 1:43pm
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B365 $9/$3 in the Bobby Lewis. Zahra on Lucky Hussler, Williams on SSB. Best renewal in years.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2017 at 1:49pm
I am not sure if this is sarcasm or not but I think the early part of the campaign is not far off the mark. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2017 at 2:19pm
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That was one sprint race too many. Probably ruined the rest of his spring with that race. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Sir Gov
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2017 at 2:21pm
| placed to perfection....not |
Posted By: mikey
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2017 at 11:20am
| Craig Williams could not have studied his racing style or must surely have ridden against instructions? Over these shorter distances he has to be allowed to settle & come with a strong finish. He was ridden much too close. Might be psychologically damaged for the remainder of this prep now - they will have to get Zahra back on but no guarantees now he can reproduce those two slashing first up runs. Anyone think he can bounce back from this if ridden correctly? |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2017 at 11:22am
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If he is the right price I will be backing him in the Rupert Clarke. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: mikey
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2017 at 11:28am
| Is he guaranteed a start? I guess his prizemoney is pretty good. |
Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2017 at 2:18pm
| Didn't appear to be racing too generously 300 hundred out, this trainer does worry me at times lol. |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2017 at 2:26pm
Would not say guaranteed but he should scrape in. Last years winner was a BM95 horse as is So Si Bon. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2017 at 2:29pm
| Nominated in a 1400m Handicap Caulfield this Saturday. |
Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2017 at 2:36pm
He may go better around a corner , ridden with a little patience. |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2017 at 2:41pm
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For kiss sake he needs to be kept fresh. The trainer is a nincompoop. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Sir Gov
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2017 at 6:12pm
| this just gets better..... |
Posted By: mikey
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2017 at 6:17pm
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Have to agree with the posters questioning the Trainers selection of races. The horse obviously has a lot of talent but blind freddy can see that for sprint races he needs to be kept fresh! That said, Craig Williams ride on Saturday didn't help either... |
Posted By: mikey
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2017 at 6:19pm
| Is entry qualification for The Rupert Clarke based on prizemoney won? If so he should get in but I'm not sure if it is?? |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2017 at 6:37pm
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It will depend on the entries and where he sits in the order of weight. BM 95 should see him scrape in. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Hoffy95
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2017 at 11:11am
| Poor horse & connections. |
Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2017 at 11:17am
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Posted By: Hoffy95
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2017 at 11:29am
| Chance to cross the line in front if Lane falls off again. |
Posted By: Underground
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2017 at 11:33am
| can't believe this prep. so dumb |
Posted By: Hoffy95
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2017 at 11:35am
Just this prep?
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Posted By: Underground
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2017 at 11:47am
| touche |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2017 at 11:53am
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I have no major issue with his previous preps, they were learning about him. What they should have learned they are clearly not putting into practice. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: monty1
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2017 at 6:00pm
| So will he run him 3 weeks in a row? Just saw him say on Racing.com he sprinted him up this morning! |
Posted By: TOLEDO
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2017 at 6:14pm
| Ive worked it out Robbie Laing is trying to get the old 10,000 metres into the horse before the first tuesday in november |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2017 at 6:19pm
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Think he is trying that numbers of metres for the Toorak. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Bi Carb
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2017 at 7:33am
| Robbie is a different cat. |
Posted By: mikey
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2017 at 9:35am
| Is he still a rough chance in the Rupert Clarke? If he scrapes into the field he should be on the minimum and the speed should be genuine. |
Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2017 at 4:52pm
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Let me start by stating I'm a fan of Robbie Laing and I believe that SO SI BON will win a big race some day. But the fact is he's still only won 1 race from 16 starts to date. Personally I think it's time to lower the bar and map out a less ambitious path and work through his grades. He can still do this and pick up some black type along the way and he's only a 4yo so hopefully has seasons ahead for bigger prizes. Spring 2017 could be something like: 7th Oct - Paris Lane Stakes 1400m at Flemington : $120,000 listed 29th Oct - Sale Cup 1600m at Sale : $200,000 listed 18th Nov - Eclipse Stks 1800m at Sandown : $150,000 G3 |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2017 at 5:11pm
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I do not think his sites need to be lowered ( though it would not hurt him ) lets face it, his sites were lowered quite a deal on Saturday. He ran a bottler of a race. He needs his races spaced, Needs to be kept fresh. If they went 3 weeks into the Toorak he'd be well placed on the limit. If he missed a spot in that on the same day is the listed Weekend Hussler 1400m. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Black Prince 2
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2017 at 5:15pm
| Just a non winner amazing how he can so close but always gets beat . Punters nightmare . Will bob up at huge odds one day |
Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2017 at 5:25pm
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Totally agree with the spacing of runs, hence my suggestion of 3 weeks to Sale Cup, then 3 weeks to the Eclipse Stks. But there's certainly plenty of paths & options he can take at this time of year. I do think his big race win will come in the 1600m to 1800m range. |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2017 at 5:28pm
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If they go first up into next years Newmarket handicap that will be his big ticket win. Unfortunately his trainer will not have the balls to do it. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Lord Hybrow
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2017 at 5:38pm
Hmmm, Newmarket 1st up.... interesting. Would like to see that too I had the pleasure of chatting to Robbie a few years ago at Mornington races and his knowledge of racing history and pedigrees was quite amazing. And any trainer who is willing to run a horse 1st up over 5500m after a 3 year spell (ie Sir Pentire) and win.....has got balls 
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2017 at 5:45pm
That is true regarding the balls I ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: therealkramer
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2017 at 8:05pm
Similar to Omei Sword-who has to be ridden cold and needs pace on. Remarkably, started fav yesterday, i believe. |
Posted By: Bi Carb
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2017 at 1:28pm
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